Peyton Manning’s stats compare not-so-favorably to someone else’s

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How bad of a year is Peyton Manning having? It’s one thing to look at his numbers in isolation. It’s quite another to compare them to someone else’s.

So far this year, Manning has thrown 237 passes, with 146 completions for 1,524 yards. That’s an average of 6.4 yards per attempt. He also has thrown seven touchdown passes and 10 interceptions.

Consider these stats: 271 passes, 126 completions, 1,729 yards. 6.4 yards per attempt. Twelve touchdown passes. Six interceptions.

Those stats look a little better, right? Like Manning’s, they were generated by a Broncos quarterback. In 2011. His name was Tim Tebow.

Tebow’s passer rating in 2011? 72.9. Manning’s in 2015 is 72.5.

Throw in the fact that Manning has minus-four yards rushing this year and Tebow had 660 and six more touchdowns four years ago, and it’s easy to conclude that Tebow in 2011 was better than Manning in 2015.

Feel free to discuss in the comments. As if you needed to be invited to do so.

74 responses to “Peyton Manning’s stats compare not-so-favorably to someone else’s

  1. The floor of mannings abilities are slightly lower than the ceiling of tebows. Tebow has also won a lot more playoff games than most of the starters in the NFL. No one is calling for any of their jobs. Its comparing apples and oranges

  2. I see we have our daily criticism of Peyton. JUST STOP IT. Everyone knows he’s not the same anymore. Just pay your respects to the legend in his final year.

  3. Is there anyone left that thinks Manning is just in a slump? We all know he is in decline. We all have seen the defense carrying the team. If the Denver offensive line could pull it together so the team could run the ball a little bit more, it wouldn’t even matter. The idea is to carry Manning to a championship so he can ride off into the sunset.

  4. Yes Tebow had a 72% pass rating with 6 interceptions and over 1700 passing yard, better than peyton and yet horseface elway couldnt see the forest from the trees and let tebow go for old noodle arm peyton

  5. “Chicken Parm you taste so good”…….

    “Your arm is dead get off the field”……

    Thanks for the memories pizza hawker…..

  6. Wouldn’t it be something if Peyton got his second and final Super Bowl ring in spite of his own play?

  7. Somebody should’ve picked up Tebow as a long term project and tried to develop him. If Jimmy Clausen can get a paycheck, why not give Tebow a shot?

  8. The parallels are even greater! Denver won with a very good defense and kicker as Tebow was awful for 90% of the game. Manning is winning with a great defense and kicker while being awful for 85% of the game!

  9. Tim Tebow also had a pass completion percentage of 46%. That is why he is no longer an NFL QB. He simply can’t throw the ball accurately and he didn’t move to another position like FB or TE because he’s not real good at catching the ball.

  10. concmike says:
    Oct 26, 2015 2:34 PM
    “Chicken Parm you taste so good”…….

    “Your arm is dead get off the field”……
    _______________________

    I like it.

  11. Eerily similar situation with Mannings and Elways career. Both were finishing wonderful careers needing the team to carry them to the Super Bowl if possible.

    That one is the GM over the other at the end is an amazing coincidence or is it?

    I hope Peyton calls it day after this year, I fear for his body in the future. He has had a stellar career it is time to move on.

  12. Peyton’s on a downward spiral. He’s in a new offense, he’s lost a bunch of receivers, his shoulder strength is declining, and he can’t feel the fingers in his right hand.

    Tebow’s numbers, on the other hand, were in his best year, at the peak of his powers. Imagine how terrible he would have been if he had half the problems Peyton had.

    Tebow hasn’t played since and Peyton is probably going to retire next year, so in that sense it’s not a bad comparison. If those are your numbers, it’s probably time to hang it up.

    Tebow as a project? If even Belichick won’t keep Tebow around, you’ve got to imagine that Tebow’s pretty much maxed out his ceiling as a QB. I’m not a Pats fan but Belichick knows his stuff.

  13. Also better numbers than Bradford, but hey if Chip Kelly says he’s not good enough I guess he’s not good enough.

  14. Yeah, it’s kinda sad watching an icon in decline. I am grateful for all the greatness though. It isn’t necessary to be nasty mean. The guy never makes excuses and he is the epitome of class.

  15. Both QBs (Tebow and Manning) relied on a dominate Defense to win and hurt their team more than helped them. The difference is Tebow was still athletically gifted and as I much as I didn’t like him, he would be the better starter right now. That isn’t an endorsement for Tebow to play but for Manning to stop.

  16. I would still take Peyton over 3/4 of the QBs in the league. I would not care if he was in a full body cast with a bed pan taped between his legs. He may not be fancy anymore but plain and simple, he gets the job done

  17. One of the greatest of all time. Not the same can be said for Tebow so I fail to see the point of the comparison. I don’t think Peyton is done yet but if he is I truly believe with his career this nasty reporting just needs to stop. From a Pats fan.

  18. Are those Tebow’s stats for the whole year?

    I remember that he beat the Chiefs and he only completed 2 passes the whole game. Of course, he only threw 8 passes the whole game, as well.

  19. coltzfan166 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 2:28 PM
    I see we have our daily criticism of Peyton. JUST STOP IT. Everyone knows he’s not the same anymore. Just pay your respects to the legend in his final year.

    ——————

    Time for Manning to show some respect for the game and think about his teammates for a change. They have a championship level team and his pursuit for records will leave them out of 1st round of playoffs. Time for Brock Osweiler to take over because he can’t be any worse.

  20. mongo3401 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 3:09 PM
    I would still take Peyton over 3/4 of the QBs in the league. I would not care if he was in a full body cast with a bed pan taped between his legs. He may not be fancy anymore but plain and simple, he gets the job done

    ——————–

    He isn’t getting the job done. He is constantly being bailed out by a defense that is playing out of this world. I can’t name 5 QBs I would take over Peyton right now. He is a first ballot HOFer but he teams are baiting him so bad its a joke. They have no respect for his ability throw beyond 15yds. In 4 weeks everyone will know he needs to be benched.

  21. Peyton Manning had a great career and this is his swan song. Unfortunately age and time eventually catches everyone. I might have hated his gesticulations standing back in the shotgun, but the guy could play.

    The only grudge I have against him is that he didn’t retire with the Colts. I always think that generational players should always retire from “their” team, and not do this downfall elsewhere. I’m looking at you Brett.

    So for Tom Brady, please, when it is time to hang them up, retire as a Patriot. I will be happy to watch age catch you as long as you are still in a Pats uniform. Be the guy that stands up and goes out with respect. Even if it is 10 years from now, when it is time, don’t change teams to extend it.

  22. I feel for many of the NFL’s outstanding players who have been around 10+ years – and whose skills are declining.

    Don’t stay too long at the dance – bow out while you are still near the top of your game.

  23. Just heard Tebow got a new endorsement deal from Neosporin …..because he gets cut so much! Peyton is the G.O.A.T. He’ll go after ythis year.

  24. Manning is going to be fine. He’s not stupid. (I’m not certain about Kubiak though.)

    They’re going to come out of the bye with Hillman starting, Sanders’ shoulder healthy, hopefully Thomas’ drop-fest a thing of the past, and Manning understanding the sorts of throws he can and can’t make anymore.

    One thing I noticed about this new offense is it doesn’t throw to the RBs enough. That was something that helped keep defenses honest the last few years and it has all but been removed from the playbook.

  25. I am a Pats fan. In all fairness if Manning’s low is Tebow’s high then you know how good one is compared to the other. Manning has been awesome in his career overall. Tebow would kill to have that.

  26. I am a Pats fan. In all fairness if Manning’s low is Tebow’s high then you know how good one is compared to the other. Manning has been awesome in his career overall. Tebow would kill to have that.

  27. Manning is in a completely new offense with a new coaching staff.
    Just for a mind exercise, put Brady and the Patriots in a new offense with Kubiak and staff running it. Would they be 6-0? I severely doubt it. In fact, I would wager that if Belichek croaked tomorrow, the Pats would have a severe downward spiral begin immediately.

  28. Peyton Manning’s playoff record: 11-13 (Holds the NFL record for losses)

    Peyton Manning’s one and done’s: 9 (NFL record).

    And to think that just a couple years ago, people were arguing whether he or Brady was the best ever… LOL.

  29. steelerben says: Oct 26, 2015 2:29 PM

    Is there anyone left that thinks Manning is just in a slump? …
    ____________________________
    You mean anyone other than Jim Nantz, Phil Simms, Cris Collinsworth, all the guys on every pre-game and post-game show on every channel.

  30. This is Manning’s final season and they don’t want to “disrespect” him by benching him after he “graciously” already agreed to a pay cut. As long as they are winning (isn’t that what Tebow fans were saying?), there’s no need to make a move. Of course it’s not a slump. He had to go to Europe for experimental surgery (not authorized in the US) and maybe it bought him that one great year. I think they can wait out a couple of losses before making a move.

  31. The Packers seem to bring out the best in opposing QB’s. Don’t give up on ‘ol Peyton just yet.

  32. So Tebow at the top of his ‘career’ in an offense crafted for him had a better year than Manning at the nadir of his with a new offense that works away from his diminishing strengths. Well , that’s a news flash.

    While everyone, including him probably, would rather he had gone a year too early rather than hanging on a year too long he threw for over 4700 yds with 39 TDs to 15 INTs and a rating of 101.5 last year. No one could have seen this train wreck coming.

    He is one of the best regular season QBs of all time, this year will not change that

  33. “He is one of the best regular season QBs of all time, this year will not change that”

    I know you were trying to defend Manning, but you realize don’t you, that by adding the words “regular season” you actually are damning him with faint praise?

    Basically, by touting him as a great “regular season” QB, you are saying (albeit in a roundabout way) that he is sub-par playoff QB.

    Which of course, he is.

  34. Father time wins every time…..Still, I have been a Peyton fan for many years……Respect his work ethic and class and football skills, more so, his football knowledge. He will be a great coach in the near future.

  35. Those are Tim Tebow’s stats for the entire 2011 season (14 games played to be exact).

    You would think one would make sure he would mention that Peyton’s stats are through 6 games in the 2015 season and Tim Tebow’s stats were through 14 games in the 2011 season.

  36. As weak as Tebow’s arm is, Manning’s is even weaker now and that’s weak.

    It’s pathetic that he’s out there just because of his ego.

  37. I really don’t get the daily beating on Peyton Manning. As another commenter said, everyone knows he’s not the same. You’re just generating click bait and a “QB controversy” to “cover.”

  38. patsrule59 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 4:03 PM

    “He is one of the best regular season QBs of all time, this year will not change that”

    I know you were trying to defend Manning, but you realize don’t you, that by adding the words “regular season” you actually are damning him with faint praise?

    Basically, by touting him as a great “regular season” QB, you are saying (albeit in a roundabout way) that he is sub-par playoff QB.

    Which of course, he is.
    ________________

    I knew exactly what I was doing 😉
    I am a Pats fan but unlike all the mindless Brady haters I have no problem giving the devil his due. Greatness defines itself and normally I wouldn’t bother presuming to defend it but I can’t abide the revisionist foolishness displayed by the Manning bashers. Manning had a very good year last year and a phenomenal one in 2013. No one shoveling dirt now would have hesitated to bring him back after last year and that certainly couldn’t be said of Tebow.

  39. Apologies for the inevitable rant… But JFC we know that Peyton looks like dog ****! Every other Broncos related article I read can’t seem to accept the fact that the ol’ guy is basically done. The “ol’ guy” is also a first ballot HOFer. But yes, he’s grown too old for this young, fast game. How about do some real reporting and give us Broncos fans some new, fresh, informative articles to read? I’m getting tired of this pathetic, lazy attempt and football analysis…

  40. I love how people always throw up Manning’s playoff losses. He also has a TON of playoff wins! FIFTH ALL TIME I believe. When you lead your team to the playoffs virtually every year of your career you are gonna have a bunch of losses. If Brady keeps playing long enough he will surpass Manning as the guy with the most losses. Because he will always get his team to the dance and most years not get a ring. He went 10 years between rings this last time. It speaks to how great they are that they get their teams in every year.

  41. Just a couple of comments to correct the record.

    The article states that Tebow threw 12 TDs and 6 INTs. Those numbers come from the 12 regular season games in 2011 where Tebow was the QB. Starts the 5th game of the season where Tebow took over for Orton to start the 2nd half against San Diego. It doesn’t count his 316 yard / 2TD performance against the Steelers.

    For those pointing out that “Manning is in a new offense”, well, HELLO, so was Tebow. If you remember, McDaniels got canned Tebow’s first year. Fox came in and McCoy was running his offense. They supposedly drew up new playbook during the bye week before heading to Miami.

  42. Beyond all the football player who’s good and who isn’t talk, and seeing the stats as they are today, ask the question: why is it that one guy has a place to play and the other guy doesn’t? Not a matter of play ability, is it?

  43. If you include Tebows playoff games and rushing TD his ratio goes from 2-1 to 7-1!!!!!!!! WOW! No wonder Tebow’s Broncos were awesome! I’m sure Mannings ratio goes down when including playoff games.

  44. In 2010/2011, Tebow threw more TDS per pass attempt than Manning did in 2010 and he ran for 15 scores.
    Tebow scored 32 TDs and 2 two point conversions in 549 touches as a first time starter.
    Manning scored 33 TDs in 697 touches in 2010 as a 13 year veteran.
    They are both top 5 scoring quarterbacks. Tebow scored more often with 148 fewer plays.

  45. In my Broncos fantasy world, I imagine Tebow still on the team after Manning signed. We don’t waste a 2nd rd pick on Osweiller and we let Manning do his thing while Tebow continues to improve footwork/throwing motion and learns how to read defenses.

    After Manning retires this year (hopefully), Tebow is in a run oriented/roll out on play-action offense where he only has to deal with half the field. Not saying he’d ever make it to the HOF, but I think he would have been decent.

    Back to reality, I wish this defense & an improved running game can carry Manning to one more Lombardi trophy.

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