Tom Brady: I think I’m better now than I was five years ago

Getty Images

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said last week that he wants to play for another 10 years and then offered up the latest example of how little age has taken away from his game by leading the Patriots past the Jets on Sunday.

Brady threw for 355 yards and could have had even more if Brandon LaFell and other Patriots receivers had shown better ability hanging onto the ball. He also led the team in rushing on a day when they rarely handed the ball off and showed off mobility that Brady believes is better now than it was earlier in his career in the process.

During an appearance on “Dennis and Callahan” on WEEI on Monday, Brady repeated his goal of playing another decade — “What else am I going to do?” — and said he thinks he’s better now than he was five years ago.

“I think so,” Brady said. “I don’t know. I try to be critical of myself. I think I’m making all the throws I need to make. There can always be things I can do better. I’ve worked hard always on my throwing mechanics. I worked hard this offseason on them. Playing quarterback is throwing the ball accurately, being able to make the throws, being durable and making good decisions. I try to take care of the good decision part, I try to take care of the accurate part, I try to take care of the durability part. Then it comes down to leadership and relating to your teammates and all those things that are different challenges that you face as you get older.”

The age gap may be growing as Brady starts playing with teammates who were barely out of diapers when he joined the Patriots, but leadership from the quarterback position doesn’t seem to be much of an issue in New England. Neither do the physical or mental parts of the game, which makes Brady’s contention about being better now than he was earlier in his career tough to argue with even if another 10 years at something close to the same level still feels like a long shot.

186 responses to “Tom Brady: I think I’m better now than I was five years ago

  1. Lets all enjoy watching Brady play while we can as best we can, I know it has to be hard for fans of the other AFC East.

    I used to despise Bobby Orr when I was young and I now wish I’d just sat back and enjoyed watching him play.

  2. I think a reasonable ambition would be to retire with another ring and all the career passing records. The passing numbers will take 4 more more years at a high level, assuming Manning is just about done.

  3. Again…

    What was CRYBABY NATION saying all offseason?

    “Brady won’t be able to throw the ball anymore”

    “The Patriots are going to fumble more”

    Who’s been WRONG more than CRYBABY NATION?

  4. Brady even made Revis look average yesterday. Brady was 3-5 for 47 yards against Revis (both incompletions were drops). And this isn’t a knock on Revis, he had only given up 1 catch for 10 yards in the previous 3 games combined

  5. Check the PSI!
    doh

    Check his shoes! His wrist band! His helmet has speakers in it, I know it! Check his underwear! Check it all! Nobody is that good!!!!
    :'(

  6. If half of the drops were caught he would have thrown for 400 against the Jets.

    Just an amazing season — he’s making fantastic decisions.

  7. I would have to agree with him, the Jets played as well as could be expected and he still put up 14 points in the 4th qrt when the game was on the line, he’s like a fine wine….why does the article have to say he lead his team in rushing without adding that it was only 12 yds???? Brady doesn’t need fake stats, his real numbers are good enough….hopefully the Jets will be ready the Sunday after Christmas for the rematch, I know I will, until then Lets Go Miami…….

  8. Hoping all the other teams in the NFL stay vigilant against cheating.

    Can’t wait to find out what the Patriots* have been doing this year to “bend the rules.”

  9. Bash Brady all you want but I was at that game yesterday and he may have even sold popcorn and soft drinks too. He did it all….even leading them in rushing……he plays mad we will be tough to beat………

  10. This is the climax for his career, remember Manning was setting records 2 years ago and now he’s shot, a year prior to his retirement favre had a pretty good statistical season,the same will be of brady in 2 years, father time is always wins

  11. The GOAT QB is not the only one who thinks he’s better than ever. 🙂

    The GOAT QB moving around and extending plays really is a treat to watch this year. Dunno if I want him taking off and running more than necessary but whatever it is he’s doing… keep it up! 🙂

  12. Great performance yesterday…we’re a .500 team without him

    Most teams would be .500 without their HOF QB.

    QB’s are not easy to replace. Theres only a few of them that can play at a real high level consistently.

  13. What he meant to say, “As long as Kraft’s industrial espionage department and dirty tricks operatives continue to assist me, I will be able to perform at a high level.”

  14. All I can say is that if the nfl had really cared about making sure balls were properly inflated before last year, the pats might have had a couple of more undefeated seasons.

    Pats fans really owe everyone that made “spygate” and “deflategate” such a big deal, and we owe you big time.

    Team’s and players usually have letdowns after winning championships but the nfl and critics made sure that didn’t happen this year.

    Really, thank you.

  15. Obe Wan Jabroni says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:01 PM

    Brady even made Revis look average yesterday. Brady was 3-5 for 47 yards against Revis (both incompletions were drops). And this isn’t a knock on Revis, he had only given up 1 catch for 10 yards in the previous 3 games combined

    After what I saw yesterday… all the more reason to think the World Champion Patriots made the right call with Revis.

    Still a really good corner for sure. No doubt the Pats are a better team with him. As good as he was a few years ago? Nope. And not worth even close to what he wanted in $.

  16. I have been fortunate to see Russell, Yastrzemski, Orr, Bird, Pedro and now Brady as a sports fan in Boston. Of all of those greats, Brady was the one guy that no one (but himself) expected to be great, and that just makes watching what he does week in and week out all the more special.

    I just used his life story to give my daughter a reality check on not worrying about how highly rated she is going into a career opportunity and that believing in herself, working hard, and being a team player is what’s important.

    Has any sports figure ever responded to adversity (a persecution really) with more grace and achievement than Brady?

  17. Brady is going to take a hell of a hit one of these years and then lets see what he thinks.

  18. The man dropped 30 points on the league’s stingiest defense yesterday ….. with TEN dropped passes!

    AND he was the team’s leading rusher.

    Brady is decimating the NFL, team by team by team, and every team he beat was considered a solid team at the time he beat them.

    The Patriots are the HIGHEST scoring offense in the NFL, and he’s doing this all with 100% “legit” footballs.

    Roger Gooddell is doing a slow burn, and you know it. 😉

  19. Enjoy him while you can, football fans. Like all the greats that came before him, he will eventually decline.

    I just hope Brady has more sense than Montana or Favre or most of the other greats and selects to retire as a Patriot when the time comes, rather than putting his decline on public display with another team.

    In a perfect scenario, Brady and Belichick would retire on the same day. It would be a disaster for the Patriots, but it would seem fitting for two of the greatest of all time in their respective disciplines to go out together.

  20. 5 fumbles in 6 games.

    Where are the guys screaming the numbers would balloon.

    One interception. Where are people screaming his numbers would fall off.

    Numbers are kind of proving he didn’t cheat.

    Whats the line we kept hearing??? Oh yeah….

    Check the numbers!!! They don’t lie!!!!

  21. “No doubt the Pats are a better team with him [Revis]”

    LOL. So tell us, which Patriot cornerback is better than Darrelle Revis?

  22. But but but Brady is only good because of spygate!

    But but but but Brady is only good because of the system!

    But but Brady needs deflated footballs to be good!

    🙂

    #OhYouSillyPatriotHaters
    #PownedAgain
    #NeverEndingSourceOfAmusement
    #NeverEndingSourceOfLaughter

  23. This was an excellent interview with Brady in the studio with D and C instead of on the phone. He was informative and relaxed answering the questions. He laughed when he stated the question of what else he would do. We have been blessed to have been able to observe this man play the game and lead his team. To all the detractors who use this medium to vent your rage I can only say you have no idea of how wrong you are. What you write or think is usually driven by hatred of getting defeated or from a media that no longer does their job and finds it easier to hate than to investigate for the truth. Teammates and opponents know that we a witness to greatness which we may never see again. God bless Tom and his leadership for it has given many fans happiness and pleasure far beyond any expectations.

  24. experience does pay dividend.
    5 years ago we got caught cheating with #spygate. This time around, we still do it, but you aint gonna catch us again…
    #experiencebaby

  25. flash1287 says:

    Again…

    What was CRYBABY NATION saying all offseason?

    “Brady won’t be able to throw the ball anymore”

    “The Patriots are going to fumble more”

    Who’s been WRONG more than CRYBABY NATION?
    ———————————————————-
    Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.

  26. Obe Wan Jabroni says:

    Brady even made Revis look average yesterday.
    ———————————————————
    Revis IS average

  27. Favre thought he could play into his 40s as well. The breakdown comes quick. Brady not showing any signs of slowing down though.

  28. Pay back will come Pat fans…16-0… first play off game… all of a sudden PI penalties, holding penalties….great season 16-1… sometimes vengeances come when you least expect it…wait for it…

  29. He’s so good right now I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to do a whole season.
    And this with what at the moment is a below average oline.

  30. “osiris33 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:25 PM
    flash1287 says:

    Again…

    What was CRYBABY NATION saying all offseason?

    “Brady won’t be able to throw the ball anymore”

    “The Patriots are going to fumble more”

    Who’s been WRONG more than CRYBABY NATION?
    ———————————————————-
    Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.”


    You have that completely backward. Now that the balls are at the same PSI for every game (before the game, anyway), the cold weather will be an even bigger advantage for TB. His complaint was that the refs often OVER-INFLATED the balls. Now that that’s not happening this is what you will get. When the cold weather gets here that 12.5 PSI pre game will be down to 11.5ish or lower once the game starts.

  31. They must have installed newer and better microphones in the visiting team’s locker room. Good for him.

  32. Here’s how the NFL appeal will go some time next off season:

    Judges: “Mr Goodell, you spent the 2015 season measuring air pressure of balls at pregame and at halftime. What did those tests show?”

    Goodell: “I’m not telling.”

    Judges: “Mr Goodell, you are not allowed to decide what you will or will not tell us.”

    Goodell: “but I am the NFL Commissioner!”

    Judges: “Case dismissed, and Mr. Goodell can spend the night in a cell to think about whether he wants to answer our questions.”

  33. “chunkderrrty says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:07 PM
    This is the climax for his career, remember Manning was setting records 2 years ago and now he’s shot, a year prior to his retirement favre had a pretty good statistical season,the same will be of brady in 2 years, father time is always wins”


    Brady broke all the records in 2007. By your logic doesn’t’ that mean he should have been done by 2010>?

  34. Peyton Manning’s yardage record: 5,477
    Brady’s current pace…5,477

    🙂

    #heh
    #HowAboutThat

  35. crewchief15 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:27 PM
    Pay back will come Pat fans…16-0… first play off game… all of a sudden PI penalties, holding penalties….great season 16-1… sometimes vengeances come when you least expect it…wait for it…

    Yeah, I’m running to the sports book now, thanks for the tip.

  36. …a artist with his craft….enjoy him while he’s still playing. He’s playing awsome football as all the other Patriots are……I don’t care what football team you root for, you have to appreciate this.

  37. “Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.”

    Actually, due to the molecular properties of gases, the cold weather games will be when the balls START to deflate.

    And, by your logic, Brady should play EVEN BETTER then, right? Seeing how he’s using properly inflated balls now, right?

  38. Wondering about Brady’s arm strength?

    Watch Brady’s bullet to Amendola for the TD. That pass can only be completed by a QB with a very strong arm. A weaker armed QB gets that pass knocked down or more likely intercepted.

    And to think his arm is that strong at 38 years old.

    🙂

    #TheMoreYouKnow

  39. If you total game plays are over 90% via throws, you are bound to have at least 10 -15 caught by your receivers. You, Brady, did not win this game. The “percentages” won the game!

  40. Circle 11/29; Sunday night at Denver. Hate on Bill Belichick all you want but 30 teams (I will give Packer fans Aaron) would trade there starting QB and back-up for Brady.

  41. It is hilarious how desperate the clowns are these days. Brady playing better, no crazy fumble increases.

    And one guy stating that when it gets colder that’s when Brady will get worse. LOL, you can’t make this stuff up. The balls will be softer in the cold than they are now. Your entire argument is completely shattered, bub. I honestly cannot believe that even needs to be explained at this point. Mind blowing.

  42. I appreciate the greatness. Really only 2 qbs that I love to watch, and both play in other teams….Brady and Rodgers. Enjoy it because it may net happen again.

  43. All the Haters… All the Haters.

    I haven’t been around for 50-years, but I know enough to know that TFB is among the top 3 of all time, if not the best.

  44. I’ve seen every snap of his career, and I have to agree with him. He reads defense and adjusts more accurately, throws better on the move, and manages the pace of the game better than he ever has. And, his Facebook game is also on point.

    It’s really amazing what he’s doing. Avocado ice cream for everyone!

  45. Joe Montana is the GOAT. But Brady is the Greatest of this generation. And showed yesterday he can still make a first down on those Bambi legs. Great stuff.

  46. ctiggs says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:32 PM
    he cant even throw deep ………….so there is that
    ——————————-
    This always an amusing criticism of Brady, tell me who does he have to throw the ball deep to? No one, when he had an aging Moss and Stallworth he lit it up going deep. Come with facts.

  47. Still not as good as Aaron Rodgers though.

    Not that this should be surprising to anyone anymore though after Bob Costas’ Sunday Night Football report revealing that most experts rank Rodgers ahead of Brady.

    In other news, water is wet.

  48. cliverush says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:21 PM
    …..Teammates and opponents know that we a witness to greatness which we may never see again.

    Good point about opponents witness to greatness. Quotes from Jets after yesterday’s game about Brady:

    Revis: Tom is great at dissecting any defense

    Calvin Pace: That’s why one day that guy will be in Canton

    Dion Bailey: It’s not frustrating, it’s exciting — I got to play against a legend today.

    Impressive class across the board.

  49. I substantially underestimated the staying power of those who are proven wrong week after week.

    It is entertaining, imagining the steam coming out the ears while furiously typing their hate mail.

  50. tbisgod says:
    Oct 26, 2015 11:59 AM
    Great performance yesterday…we’re a .500 team without him

    ==================

    Most teams would kill to be .500 without their starting QB. I’m not sure that I get your point.

  51. osiris33 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:25 PM

    Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.
    _______________________________

    Uh, actually, you have that backwards. The warm air now would be affecting him more if there weren’t deflated balls, and we would have seen a drop off in productivity immediately if having properly inflated balls were an issue for Brady. Warm air keeps the footballs inflated, cold air naturally deflates them.

    When the cold air comes around, the balls should deflate naturally, which means that would work to his advantage.

  52. siris33 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:25 PM

    Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.
    ———

    Yes, the cold weather will deflate them more to Brady’s liking, genius.

  53. revelation123 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:56 PM
    Still not as good as Aaron Rodgers though.

    Not that this should be surprising to anyone anymore though after Bob Costas’ Sunday Night Football report revealing that most experts rank Rodgers ahead of Brady.

    =========================

    I don’t think anyone would argue that Rodgers has a better physical skill set at this point in their respective careers, but he has had the misfortune of spending his whole career with one of the worst game-day coaches ever.

  54. Dude works his rear end off. You can tell over the last 2 seasons his mobility has gotten much better. It was the 1 element of his game he could improve on and he has. His
    agility in the pocket is tremendous. Cat is a Baller.

    Best QB I’ve ever seen and I go back to Unitas as an old
    Man. And he’s angry.

  55. joetoronto says:
    Oct 26, 2015 11:56 AM
    Lets all enjoy watching Brady play while we can as best we can, I know it has to be hard for fans of the other AFC East.

    I used to despise Bobby Orr when I was young and I now wish I’d just sat back and enjoyed watching him play.

    ============

    Orr would have been the GOAT if his career hadn’t been cut tragically short by injuries and career mismanagement by his agent. He played with a physical edge that Gretzky and Lemieux could never match.

  56. osiris33 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:25 PM

    Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.
    _______________________________

    Uh, actually, you have that backwards. The warm air now would be affecting him more if there weren’t deflated balls, and we would have seen a drop off in productivity immediately if having properly inflated balls were an issue for Brady. Warm air keeps the footballs inflated, cold air naturally deflates them.

    When the cold air comes around, the balls should deflate naturally, which means that would work to his advantage.”

    Excellent response. I cannot wrap my head around the thought of someone like Mr. Osiris typing that out, hitting submit, and thinking he is correct and/or making some groundbreaking point. I legit feel bad for him.

  57. newsletterczar says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:45 PM
    Circle 11/29; Sunday night at Denver. Hate on Bill Belichick all you want but 30 teams (I will give Packer fans Aaron) would trade there starting QB and back-up for Brady.

    —————

    As a Packer fan I would agree. I’m keeping Aaron only because he’s younger and playing slightly better overall.

  58. I love the ‘Montana is the GOAT’ crowd’.Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but try to leave the nostalgia behind and look at the facts. Montana played 16 yrs. Brady is playing his 16th now.

    Brady: Played in the salary cap era
    Montana: Played on an all star team

    Brady: Played in 6 SBowls, so far
    Montana: 4 SBowls

    Brady: 21-8 in the playoffs, 2 one and outs.
    Montana: 16-7 playoffs, 4 one and outs

    Brady: 6-3 in AFC Championship gms
    Montana: 4-3 in NFC Championship gms

    Since it’s a different era, I won’t bring up all the passing records, but still…

    Just like the PManning debate, this one will soon be put to bed as well.

  59. Play another 10 years? I hope he’s under the league concussion supervision because something isn’t right in his head… Father time or an injury will catch up with him sooner then that.

  60. “I don’t think anyone would argue that Rodgers has a better physical skill set at this point in their respective careers, but he has had the misfortune of spending his whole career with one of the worst game-day coaches ever.”
    —————————-

    That’s not what was said. It’s that Rodgers is the better overall QB period and this was noted in Bob Costas’ report on Sunday Night Football.

    Also, you’d think that one of the “worst game-day coaches ever” wouldn’t have a better record than Bill Belichick. Nor would you think he would have beaten Belichick last year when going up head to head.

  61. Tom Brady is a living legend. A god amongst men.
    ==========================
    Yeah, put Rodgers or Brees on that team and every year is a Super Bowl… even Matt Cassel made it look easy in NE for double digit wins

  62. revelation123 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:56 PM

    Still not as good as Aaron Rodgers though.

    Not that this should be surprising to anyone anymore though after Bob Costas’ Sunday Night Football report revealing that most experts rank Rodgers ahead of Brady.

    In other news, water is wet.
    —————————

    There’s no question that Aaron Rodgers is a good quarterback, but I doubt he will have as good of a career as Tom Brady has had.

  63. “Brady: Played in 6 SBowls, so far
    Montana: 4 SBowls

    Brady: 21-8 in the playoffs, 2 one and outs.
    Montana: 16-7 playoffs, 4 one and outs

    Brady: 6-3 in AFC Championship gms
    Montana: 4-3 in NFC Championship gms”
    ————————-

    These are team stats. Entire teams win and lose games; not QBs.

  64. “Wait until the cold weather…”

    The Patriots historically play even better in cold weather and adverse conditions. Their winning % goes up vs. their overall record, as if that’s even possible. Grabbing at straws without proof is not the hater’s best suit.

  65. sbchampsagain says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:06 PM
    Hoping all the other teams in the NFL stay vigilant against cheating.

    Can’t wait to find out what the Patriots* have been doing this year to “bend the rules.
    —————————————–

    I’ll help you out. They are exploiting the grey area of the pick/rub play so the league is forced to make that rule more clear. It’s what they do….help the league clarify their murky, poorly written rules.

  66. I used to be in denial due to having to face him twice a year & not thinking he was as good as Marino but Brady has got to be the best of all time outside of moss for a few years he has no WR or RB ever his line is a bunch of rookies & free agents & all he does is Win & stack up monster numbers…That said I hope my Fins can give him a game Thursday night!

  67. Montana was on way better teams…Waaayyyy better. That backs up the point, as QB is the most important position..

    Aaron Rodgers is better? Maybe a better pure passer, but he’s quickly entering PManning territory. He just doesn’t win enough. Regular season hero, post season zero. No excuse for him being 6-5 in the playoffs(4-0 the SBowl yr), with one ring.

  68. Tom Brady is a demi-god. His mom may be Galynn Brady, but his dad is somebody who hangs out on Mt. Olympus.

  69. Who wants to give the Pats a number 1 for Garoppolo?

    Houston? Cleveland? Chicago? KC?

    I’ll take a low 2 and a 4.

  70. “There’s no question that Aaron Rodgers is a good quarterback, but I doubt he will have as good of a career as Tom Brady has had.”
    ——————-

    His career is already better. Rodgers is smashing all-time records as if he were playing in a bush league.

  71. “Yeah, put Rodgers or Brees on that team and every year is a Super Bowl… even Matt Cassel made it look easy in NE for double digit wins”

    They went from a 16-0 regular season with Brady, to 11-5 under Cassel with pretty much the same team. That is a massive drop off if you are interested in being honest.

  72. sbchampsagain says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:06 PM
    Hoping all the other teams in the NFL stay vigilant against cheating.

    Can’t wait to find out what the Patriots* have been doing this year to “bend the rules.”
    =======================================
    I suppose that it’s more likely than not that Tom Brady is cheating father time. We need another Wells Investigation. It’s a scheme I tell ya.

  73. “Still not as good as Aaron Rodgers though.”

    Rodgers is 31 and in his prime, Brady is 38 and in decline. Rodgers SHOULD be better than Brady (in other news, water is wet). However, by the time Brady was 31, he had won 3 Super Bowls, guided the Patriots to an undefeated regular season, led the Patriots to a single season scoring record, and set the record for QB-WR touchdowns with Randy Moss…

  74. Brady is definitely better than he was 5 years ago. This is the best he’s been since 2007, easily, and he had an un-coverable Moss that year. (Gronk is almost as “unfair” but in a different way.) The question is whether he (and the team) can keep it up. That O-line is worrisome to say the least, but is mitigated by the crazy fast short throws to Gronk, Amendola, and Edelman.

  75. zigthepatsfan says:
    Oct 26, 2015 1:29 PM

    I’ll help you out. They are exploiting the grey area of the pick/rub play so the league is forced to make that rule more clear. It’s what they do….help the league clarify their murky, poorly written rules.
    ————————————————————–
    What about the Broncos? When Welker smashed into Talib in the AFC title game a few years ago was that just an accident?

    Or the Jets yesterday on the pass to Chris Ivory? You know, the one where Nnkovich got picked and Ivory was all alone in the flat.

    Teams have been running crossing routes since I was at grade school recess since it is a good way to beat man coverage.

  76. “They went from a 16-0 regular season with Brady, to 11-5 under Cassel with pretty much the same team. That is a massive drop off if you are interested in being honest.”
    —————-

    Then the very next season they went 10-6 with Brady. That’s a drop off if you are interested in being honest.

    But I don’t think you are.

    Now does this mean Brady is worse than Cassel? Of course not. After all, entire teams win and lose games; not QBs.

  77. His career is already better. Rodgers is smashing all-time records as if he were playing in a bush league.

    ———————————————————-
    Just like Marino(8-10 playoffs, 0-1 SB) and Manning(11-13 PO, 1-2 SB). In the immortal words of ABunker, ‘whoop-de- do’.

  78. Since Rodgers took over for GB , he’s played a full 7 seasons and he’s had the one SB season (congrats, he’s now in the category of P. Manning, Dilfer, Hostetler, and a host of others). You know how many postseason wins he’s gotten in the other 6 seasons combined? Two. That’s it. 3 one and dones and one non-playoff year.

  79. 87hollywoodhorn says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:02 PM

    Anybody else recognize that LaFell is their best receiver? hes honestly a beast, why did the Panthers not resign him again?
    =================
    Lafell was just activated off PUP and started practicing this week. He’s rusty now but had a good year last year (and earned a Super Bowl ring). Thanks for not resigning him!

  80. They went from a 16-0 regular season with Brady, to 11-5 under Cassel with pretty much the same team. That is a massive drop off if you are interested in being honest.


    And of course they missed the playoffs because they couldn’t beat any teams with good defenses anymore. Gee I wonder why.

    In fact they went from 7-0 against playoff teams to 1-4 against the AFC playoff field, with 3 of those 4 losses being blowouts, and 2 of those blowout losses at home.

    Wins and losses are a team stat for sure… but in this case the dropoff in quality at the QB position is as clear as day.

  81. Dude is turning into a real bore with his constant brags.

    My favorite trait of a sports superstar is humility.

    See guys like Buster Posey, Steph Curry and Barry Sanders for reference.

  82. And would you statboys realize for once and all that the rules have changed and all offensive records will shatter due to this fundamental fact, not that Aaron Rodgers is 20 times better than Bart Starr.

  83. “Dude is turning into a real bore with his constant brags.

    My favorite trait of a sports superstar is humility.

    See guys like Buster Posey, Steph Curry and Barry Sanders for reference.”

    He was asked directly if he thought he is playing better now than he was 5 years ago. What would you like him to say? It’s not like he’s ranting about how great he is on facebook.

  84. This season is the karma campaign against Patriots haters. People say cheaters never win, I agree. That’s why the Patriots win. On to ring #5.

  85. “Just like Marino(8-10 playoffs, 0-1 SB) and Manning(11-13 PO, 1-2 SB). In the immortal words of ABunker, ‘whoop-de- do’.”
    —————————

    By that logic, Trent Dilfer (5-1, 1-0 SB) is obviously the better QB with a better career.

    But that’s not even logic at all, it’s just downright nonsense.

    It takes a great team to win in the playoffs, not a great QB.

  86. “By that logic, Trent Dilfer (5-1, 1-0 SB) is obviously the better QB with a better career.

    But that’s not even logic at all, it’s just downright nonsense.

    It takes a great team to win in the playoffs, not a great QB.”

    Ok, fine bro. Tell ya what. Enjoy Rodgers and I honestly hope he wins more SBs, really I do. I think he is a great QB and respect him a lot. But, when the greatest QBs play out of their minds (see Brady last February), put the team on their back, and gut out playoff wins and SB victories it is a helluva lot more impressive than guys like Manning and Marino tossing the ball all over the field and then coming up short continually in the playoffs.

  87. It takes a great team to win in the playoffs, not a great QB.

    ————————————————————

    Argument is a fallacy. You need a great QB to win 95% of the time, unless you have a crazy good D. Like Balti in 2000 or TB after that. If Marino, Manning and Rodgers consistantly have 14-2, 13-3 great regular season teams, what happens in the playoffs? I’ll tell you what happens. In some cases(not all) the weather gets bad, you face better competition and better defenses and the pressure is turned way up. In other words, things that separate all time greats from wannabes.

  88. Montana, Marino (…whoever) can’t be realistically compared to QBs playing now. The salary cap era stands alone and apart from previous eras. Making it even harder in some ways with all the restrictions on the defenses now in place it is difficult to compare current QBs with those playing even 10 years ago. Ironic considering some of them, Brady among them, are still playing.

  89. Brady is one of the all time great qbs. Sometimes as fans we get so wrapped up in our team we miss out on great moments in sports history. Lets all enjoy talent while it’s here, because it could be gone in an instant. We’ve seen the best of manning, let’s hope we can still witness Brady’s best.

    Seahawks fan.

  90. They went from a 16-0 regular season with Brady, to 11-5 under Cassel with pretty much the same team. That is a massive drop off if you are interested in being honest.
    ===========================
    Let’s be honest here… If Matt Cassel can get 11 wins then it has to be the system, not the QB

  91. animalkindness says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:14 PM
    Brady is going to take a hell of a hit one of these years and then lets see what he thinks.

    ____________________________________

    Welcome to football. Glad you enjoy the sport. Brady sat out the entire 2008 season. He’s taken plenty of other tough hits.

    After all that, he thinks he can play another ten years.

    Keep up.

  92. azarkhan says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:21 PM

    “No doubt the Pats are a better team with him [Revis]”

    LOL. So tell us, which Patriot cornerback is better than Darrelle Revis?

    That’s the wrong question. The right question is will the Pats be better able to use the money that they would have needed to commit to Revis. They’re going to use that money to keep Hightower and Collins as their key LBs. It’s the right decision.

    Butler isn’t as good as Revis, but he’s a lot cheaper.

  93. “Exhibit #146,779 as to why people hate him and the Pats. Don’t strain yourself too hard patting yourself on the back, Tom.”

    Once again: he was asked a direct question as to whether he thinks he is better now than he was 5 years ago. I’m not sure what you people expect him to say, especially since he IS better now than he was 5 years ago.

  94. packergator says:
    Oct 26, 2015 2:38 PM

    Exhibit #146,779 as to why people hate him and the Pats. Don’t strain yourself too hard patting yourself on the back, Tom.
    —————————-

    Having a confident quarterback is a reason to hate a team?

    I guess it is better to have a quarterback like Ryan Fitzpatrick who sucks, but everyone still likes him because he can grow a beard.

  95. So where are the Patriots after 6 games…
    #1 in points scored (35.5 per game)
    #2 yards (410.8 yards per game)
    #2 passing yards (327.2 passing yards per game)

    Let’s see, just 10 regular season games for the Pat’s … Threats on the remaining schedule, statistically speaking, Giant’s (potentially – could be another miracle catch), Jet’s (may have learned something yesterday) and Bronco’s (not so much really)

    Welcome to Tommy’s NFL Destruction Tour 2015/2016… The comment about him playing mad, that’s the best way to play, unleashing the fury in the fourth quarter and closing out the deal…

    Imagine what yesterday would have looked like if LaFell had caught the 6 passes he dropped???

    Looking forward to January… AFC Championship goes though and stops in Foxboro!!!

  96. glac1 says: Oct 26, 2015 1:18 PM

    Play another 10 years? I hope he’s under the league concussion supervision because something isn’t right in his head… Father time or an injury will catch up with him sooner then that.

    If we all followed his nourishment plan (not talking about Supreme Greens and Concussion Water) we would all live longer and healthier lives. Animal proteins and processed sugar will cut your life expectancy. Not saying he can play another 10 years but if anyone could it would be someone who ate, drank and worked out like Brady.

  97. revelation123 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:56 PM
    Still not as good as Aaron Rodgers though.

    Not that this should be surprising to anyone anymore though after Bob Costas’ Sunday Night Football report revealing that most experts rank Rodgers ahead of Brady.

    In other news, water is wet.

    *********************************************************

    You can “rank” people all you want, but it all rings a bit hollow when you start listing the “actual” accomplishments. The resume’s don’t compare at this point, and you know what I am saying.

  98. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Oct 26, 2015 2:25 PM
    Montana, Marino (…whoever) can’t be realistically compared to QBs playing now. The salary cap era stands alone and apart from previous eras. Making it even harder in some ways with all the restrictions on the defenses now in place it is difficult to compare current QBs with those playing even 10 years ago. Ironic considering some of them, Brady among them, are still playing.

    LOL- Agreed- if you are making the point that excellence today is much easier than excellence of yesteryear- the Arena game that is the NFL today is not the same game as it was even ten/fifteen years ago. I still don’t understand why Montana/Favre/Young/Warner hell even Boomer and Simms don’t come out of retirement- no risk in today’s cupcake league.

  99. His overall body of work is beyond dispute. Nobody in modern history competes. Rodgers is great but where are the titles? Not many guys win a Super Bowl in their rookie season, then go on to win multiple additional titles. And it’s not like you can point to individual players or units (OL, defense, etc.) that have ‘carried’ Brady to success. More likely it has been the other way around.

  100. In 13 seasons at the Patriots’ starter, this is what Brady has done:

    9 – AFC Championship game appearances (69% of his seasons)

    6 – Super Bowl appearances (46% of his seasons)

    4 – Super Bowl Wins (31% of his seasons)

    Who else is even close?

  101. Let’s consider the last 10 years and the times that a team asks its QB to throw on over 80% of its plays

    If that team is NE and that QB is Brady, they have a record of 4-0.

    For every other team, quarterbacked by ANYONE else, they have a record of 3-109.

    2.7% chance of winning
    vs.
    100% chance of winning

    G.O.A.T.

  102. An this is news? The only person Tom Brady does NOT think himself better than today, is Tom Brady tomorrow. Meanwhile, time marches on . . . and is catching up.

  103. ” it’s not like you can point to individual players or units (OL, defense, etc.) that have ‘carried’ Brady to success. More likely it has been the other way around.”

    Have to disagree. Early in his career Brady got a lot of help from his defense. The Pats defenses in 2003-2006 especially were crazy good. Not that Brady didn’t do his fair share, but those defenses were monster.

  104. Yes because of even more help since week 5 last year when Bill and Ernie went all in on the most cheating angles ever…….Brady sucks and put him on another team and let’s seen the HOF or Goat discussion……

    It would be goat munching on the grass

  105. Father Time will catch up with you in a couple years and you will be blown away like a rotten leaf in a storm. Peyton played his best football at the same age as you and 2 years later is having his worst year ever.

  106. harrisonhits2 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 4:41 PM

    ” it’s not like you can point to individual players or units (OL, defense, etc.) that have ‘carried’ Brady to success. More likely it has been the other way around.”

    Have to disagree. Early in his career Brady got a lot of help from his defense. The Pats defenses in 2003-2006 especially were crazy good. Not that Brady didn’t do his fair share, but those defenses were monster.

    ——————–

    In 2002, in Brady’s second year as a starter he had the most TDs in the league. It was 28, but that was better than every other QB that year.

    He was always a great player. That defense was certainly great, but I will take 2004 Brady over any other QB in the league today buy a long shot.

  107. If Aaron Rodgers can win a couple more Super Bowls and continue his great play for 5-10 more years, he’s in the “greatest” discussion, but not before. The only thing that could hold any of that back is probably coach/team related. They have to close when it counts.

  108. The Pats defenses in 2003-2006 were crazy good


    Eh…I wouldn’t call the 2005 defense crazy good

  109. Every one of you dirtbags that would wish another player to get injured, it’s time to do your own laundry, move out of your parent’s basement, and get a life.

    Wishing harm on others is what we stopped doing in Kindergarten.

  110. Just as long as he’s remembered for being complicit in a cheating organization……many will never accept him as GOAT

    This is a fact!

    And he is a cheater…..reinstatent of the deflator and Dorito dink pretty much seal Toms guilt in the matter

  111. packergator says:
    Oct 26, 2015 2:38 PM

    Exhibit #146,779 as to why people hate him and the Pats. Don’t strain yourself too hard patting yourself on the back, Tom.

    —————–
    If someone asks me if I am better at my job than I was 5 years ago I would say yes too. Especially if it was actually true, which it seems to be for Brady.

  112. “animalkindness says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:14 PM
    Brady is going to take a hell of a hit one of these years and then lets see what he thinks.”

    Too bad your concern for animals doesn’t extend to opposing quarterbacks. Brady takes hits virtually ever game. The refs let Hardy spear him in the back well after he threw the ball in Dallas. Brady moves so well in the pocket and his anticipation keep him from taking the hits most qbs take.

    As for his stats, they are not padded in desperate comeback attempts, often against prevent defenses, like we see with Rivers. Brady’s comebacks are surgical against teams that are trying to stop him on every play. He also plays against teams that do their best to eat clock.

  113. patstipoftheiceberg says:
    Oct 26, 2015 4:52 PM
    Yes because of even more help since week 5 last year when Bill and Ernie went all in on the most cheating angles ever…….Brady sucks and put him on another team and let’s seen the HOF or Goat discussion……

    It would be goat munching on the grass

    Speaking of grass, you should stop smoking now. Clearly on your last few neurons.

  114. The new age football fan chooses who they think are great players because the media tells you they are. From draft ratings to sports center highlights they drill into peoples heads players are great.

    QB play in the NFL is just down right horrendous. Brady, Rodgers then a huge cap between the next level of Big Ben, Palmer, Dalton then an even bigger drop after that.

    QB play is not about running around the field like a Wilson and hoping the defense breaks down to complete a pass. It’s about what the QB does before the snap of the ball, the drop and the release. Right now Brady and Rodgers are leaps ahead of everyone else and Brady is the best QB in the league.

    Everyone say’s Brady is under paid. I think its more that the other 30 QB in the league are over paid. Wish I could sign a contract based on what I might do instead of what I can do.

  115. ctiggs says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:32 PM
    he cant even throw deep ………….so there is that

    ———

    I guess you missed the laser he threw to Eddleman on 3rd and 17 with the game on the line. It was the play of the game.

  116. Brady sure looks like he’s better than ever. As long as his body holds up, he can go as long as he wants. Peyton Manning is smarter than ever, but his body is breaking down. It’s real treat watching these guys play. Two of the greatest.

  117. Someone actually brought up the fumbling thing. In a game were Brady was the leading rusher with 15 yards. This speaks for itself.

  118. footballfan441 says:
    Umm….Belichick went 11-5 with Matt Cassell! How did he do after going to Kansas City?
    ______________

    It takes some seriously selective foolishness to compare the ’08 roster with the one that was out there yesterday. Cassell got plugged into a stacked roster that was undefeated the previous season. Comparing just one area, that 0-line had 3 pro bowlers, this one has three rookies.

    While we have some yahoos, we aren’t Vikings fans or 12’s. For the most part you are engaging experienced championship fans here, try to up your game.

  119. “I think I’m better now than I was five years ago”

    ============================

    Tom, as a lifelong Dolphin fan it pains me to say this: all of the available evidence compels me to agree with you.

  120. Look here Patriot fans. I gaurentee my Redskins are gonna get clobbered in two weeks. The score will be close. I gaurentee you won’t be us by no more than 40 points. We’re gonna lose. Bank on it. Lol#HTTR

  121. dingusgenius says:
    Oct 26, 2015 1:11 PM
    osiris33 says:
    Oct 26, 2015 12:25 PM

    Wait until the cold weather games start. That’s when the lack of deflated footballs will show.
    _______________________________

    Uh, actually, you have that backwards. The warm air now would be affecting him more if there weren’t deflated balls, and we would have seen a drop off in productivity immediately if having properly inflated balls were an issue for Brady. Warm air keeps the footballs inflated, cold air naturally deflates them.

    —-

    There’s actually more to it than that, as well (I’m agreeing with you, just adding more information). Any game played in conditions that are warmer than the coaches locker room, would result in the PSI actually rising, and, as you pointed out, any game played in conditions that are colder than the coaches locker room would result in the PSI falling.

    The Ideal Gas Law would predict the expect range of rise/fall in the inflation depending on the temperature/atmospheric pressure change. Additionally, wet conditions will also impact the pressure, as the surface area of leather expands when it’s wet.

    #Science

  122. “But, when the greatest QBs play out of their minds (see Brady last February), put the team on their back, and gut out playoff wins and SB victories it is a helluva lot more impressive than guys like Manning and Marino tossing the ball all over the field and then coming up short continually in the playoffs.”
    ————————-

    Malcom Butler made the game winning interception last February. By your logic Brady’s performance would have been a lot less impressive if he had just allowed it to be completed for the TD. Even though Brady had absolutely nothing to do with the play.

    Do you see how silly that sounds to people who actually understand football? It wasn’t Brady who intercepted that pass, it was one of Brady’s teammates. It wasn’t Brady who secured the win. It was his defense.

    See, if QBs actually won games, then you could put Brady on a team full of high schoolers vs the NFL and see no loss in performance. But that just wouldn’t happen. That’s because it takes an entire team to win and lose games.

  123. “Argument is a fallacy.”
    ———————————–

    So name the fallacy. Go ahead. Good luck. You’ll need it, because it isn’t one.

    Aaron Rodgers has better playoff performances than Brady has. His playoff statistics are better than Brady’s across the board. Go ahead and look.

    It’s not Aaron Rodgers that’s letting the other team score. It’s not Aaron Rodgers that’s botching onside kicks. Aaron Rodgers is one of the best playoff QBs in NFL history; even including the games he played on 1 leg last season.

    Wins and losses are the result of a team effort. Both Brady and Rodgers admit this. Why won’t you?

  124. Last years NFC Championship game, Rodgers passed for 178 yrds, threw 2 INTs, scored 6 pts in the 2nd half and had a 55.8 rating. EPIC FAIL! Two weeks later, against the same D, Brady threw for 328 yrds, 4 TDs, brought the team back from a 14 pt 4th qtr deficit, agaist THAT D, to give his team the lead(which they almost blew) with short time left. To win the Super Bowl. That’s an all time great. Which Rodgers isn’t. Someday maybe, but he has a lot more winning to do.

    I could also bring up the one and out home playoff loss in 2013, where the Pack only scored 20 against the Giants. Or the one and out home loss to the Giants in 2011, where they also scored 20 points and the great Rodgers had a 78.5 QB rating, but, never mind. I’m getting bored.

  125. Recent Super Bowl winning QBs:
    Brady
    Wilson
    Flacco
    Mannings
    Rodgers
    Brees
    Roethlisberger
    Warner
    Elway
    FArve
    Aikman
    Young

    Starting to see a pattern? Almost all are going to the HOF. One exception is Flacco, but he had a record setting postseason that yr that may never be duplicated.

    Now for the fallacy of bringing up a guy like Dilfer. Yes, he has a great playoff record. But, when guys like him, or RWilson win a SB, it’s because of historically good D’s. The 2013 Seahawks, 2000 Ravens and TBay D’s of late 90’s are on every all time top 10 list you can find. Case closed.

  126. …..at cheating. I went ahead and finished the statement for him. He will likely go down in history as perhaps the most controversial ever, as we all know only public opinion really counts.

  127. “Last years NFC Championship game”
    ——————

    When you need to resort to cherry picking a game where Rodgers was injured, playing on 1 leg, and wouldn’t have even been playing in the first place if it wasn’t a playoff game, you know you’ve already lost the argument.

    Even including the playoff games Rodgers was injured, his playoff career outshines Brady’s:

    Playoff Completion %
    A-Rod: 65.4%
    Brady: 62.9%

    Playoff Touchdown %:
    A-Rod: 5.9%
    Brady: 4.9%

    Playoff Interception %:
    A-Rod: 1.8%
    Brady: 2.4%

    Playoff YPC:
    A-Rod: 5.5
    Brady: 1.4

    Playoff YPA:
    A-Rod: 7.7
    Brady: 6.8

    Playoff Passer Rating:
    A-Rod: 101.0
    Brady: 89.0

    You need to discount double check your facts if you think Brady is even anywhere near the same level as Rodgers is when it comes to playoff performances. Brady may have been on better teams, but Rodgers has been hands down the better player.

  128. “Recent Super Bowl winning QBs”
    ———————-

    Teams win Super Bowls, not QBs.

    Not to mention the fact that it’s amusing you think Russell Wilson is a hall of famer just because he was on a team that won the SB.

    You don’t seem to understand what the word fallacy means either. It means false. AKA not true.

    Therefore stating that ‘great teams win super bowls, not QBs’ can’t possibly be a fallacy as Super Bowl winning QBs like Trent Dilfter and Brad Johnson exist. Hence your claim of a fallacy itself being a fallacy.

    Also, since when did the Patriots ever win a SB with Brady as QB that didn’t have a top 8 scoring D? You think Brady did that all by himself? You’re ignoring the great coaching, great defensive play, and lets be honest, possible cheating that went into those wins.

  129. Of course you’re ‘better than ever’, because your guys are easy to throw to when they get WIDE OPEN from rubs and picks.

    I’ve defended Brady more times than not, but when you get to use illegal screens and picks AT WILL, and league officials and commentators APPLAUD it, it’s easy to see why you think you can play another 10 years. No one under normal conditions would EVER think that at age 38.

    After facing three of the better front fours in the league, you come out virtually unscathed, because your WR’s can get open so quickly…due to rubs and picks.

    The league is going to let the Patriots destroy this game, THEN they’ll ‘get tough’ on illegal picks and rubs.

    They should be fixing this problem RIGHT NOW instead of waiting until the Patriots have another Super Bowl.

  130. revelation123 says:
    Oct 27, 2015 10:41 PM
    “Last years NFC Championship game”
    ——————

    When you need to resort to cherry picking a game where Rodgers was injured, playing on 1 leg, and wouldn’t have even been playing in the first place if it wasn’t a playoff game, you know you’ve already lost the argument.

    Even including the playoff games Rodgers was injured, his playoff career outshines Brady’s:

    Playoff Completion %
    A-Rod: 65.4%
    Brady: 62.9%

    Playoff Touchdown %:
    A-Rod: 5.9%
    Brady: 4.9%

    Playoff Interception %:
    A-Rod: 1.8%
    Brady: 2.4%

    Playoff YPC:
    A-Rod: 5.5
    Brady: 1.4

    Playoff YPA:
    A-Rod: 7.7
    Brady: 6.8

    Playoff Passer Rating:
    A-Rod: 101.0
    Brady: 89.0

    —————-

    You left off a pretty important one there, buddy. How about playoff W/L? Post that one up there.

  131. Brady has 37 4th QTR come from behind wins. Even when he was young, he took the Pats on a game winning drive to beat the Rams in the SBowl, with no time left. When Madden said he should take a knee. Rodgers swallows the apple against the seahawks. Sounds like the PManning apologists over the last 15 years. Look at the poll that asks, ‘If you could pick one QB, to win one game, today, it’s Brady, hands down. 6 SBowls, 4 rings, most playoff wins all time(21-8), vs 6-5, 1 ring.

    forget the ‘better team’ argument. As with PManning, GB always seems to go 14-2,13-3, 12-4 in the reg season. What happens in the playoffs, when the competition and pressure gets turned up? That separates the all time greats from the rest. ARodgers is PManning, until he proves differently.

    As for the fallacy part, fallacy is an argument built on a false premise. That Dilfers playoff record proved some point. I specifically said, Dilfer and Wilson are exceptions to the HOF QB premise, because they played on teams that had historically good defenses. In the last 25 yrs, there are, maybe, three examples of that. That argument fails as much as PMann…err, Rodgers stats. He won’t get to the big game this year either.

    Rodgers has been a starter for 6 yrs, after sitting behind Farve for awhile. After 6 yrs, Brady was 12-2 in the playoffs, with 3 rings. Please.

  132. Every team in the league uses ‘rubs and picks’, including dallas. Just another example of a fan of a losing team making excuses, as if the Pats get away with it more than anyone else. Sometimes the refs call it, sometimes not. Some times it’s accidental, sometimes not. Sometimes it’s legal, sometimes not. Like when Ninkovich got blatenly blocked on the Ivory TD. It is what it is. The Pats win SBowls because they’re better, and have the GOAT coach and QB. Period. Quit the whining and field a team that can beat them.

  133. I have to give A-Rod his due…he has a shotgun throw…better than Brady. But, the biggest difference between Brady and everyone else, is that Brady has taken his position and worked tirelessly to get better and better. He is never satisfied. Everything is picked over, his diet, workouts, game plan, practices, etc. I think someone like Rodgers was given better natural ability, but Brady has overcome his deficiencies and made his strengths even better…
    What we are seeing now, is his experience. Lethal. I believe he is the fastest QB to get rid of the ball, at the moment. It literally makes a rushing defense a liability. Just saw the Monday Night game where Flacco wasn’t as quick…it cost them the game.

  134. Pats haters (I’m not going to mention your individual names) – We Pats lovers are having a little get together and you’re ALL invited.

    We’ll bring the cheese, you bring the whine.

    Hope to see you there

  135. “You left off a pretty important one there, buddy. How about playoff W/L? Post that one up there.”
    ——————

    “It was a great team win.”
    – Tom Brady after Super Bowl XLIX

    “It’s a special honor to be one of the leaders of this football team. But I said it once, I’ll say it again, no one person wins a game by themselves.”
    – Aaron Rodgers

    As it so easily can be seen, both Brady and Rodgers admit wins are the result of a team effort. Therefore again demonstrating that wins are team stat and not the result of how good the QB is.

    Both Brady and Rodgers admit wins are due to a team effort, so why won’t you?

    No need to answer, we already know why.

  136. “forget the ‘better team’ argument.”
    ———————

    Why? Tom Brady talks about being the better team after wins all the time. Are you calling him a liar?

    And I quote Tom Brady:

    “I’ll make it short and sweet, … I don’t have much to say. I mean, we got our butts kicked and we need to play better and we’ve got to fight harder. And give a lot of credit to the Colts. They played really well. I think we just made too many mistakes, and there’s a lot of football left. We’re 4-4. We’ve got a lot of division games and hopefully we can turn it around. But the Colts certainly outplayed us. They were the better team [Monday night]. ”

    Sound familiar?

    ——————-
    “As for the fallacy part, fallacy is an argument built on a false premise. That Dilfers playoff record proved some point.”
    ——————

    It does. Trent Dilfer’s stellar playoff record proves that you can’t go around judging how great a QB is by looking at how many wins their team had when in the playoffs. All you’re doing is looking at a team stat; not at the QB’s greatness.

  137. Yeah right. TBrady or ARodgers are gonna go to the podium after a game and actually say, ‘Boy, this team probably wouldn’t have even made the playoffs without me’. Even though it’s the truth. plleeeaaasse.

    The Dilfer, and RWilson even, examples prove my point and the fallacy of yours. Only with a great QB can you win a SBowl, unless you have a once in a generation type D, like the 2000 Ravens or the 2013 Seahawks. Belichick and Brady could make the playoffs and have a shot with the Jaguars. Dilfer also played on TBay in the late 90’s, with a D that makes every top 10 list you can Google.

  138. Nobody is saying that the QB position isn’t the most important on the field. Not Rodgers, not Brady, not anyone here.

    What’s being pointed out is the fact that it takes a great team to win Championships, not a great QB. Trent Dilfer proves this. Brad Johnson proves this. Russell Wilson proves this. Joe Flacco proves this. Even Tom Brady proves this.

    The Patriots have never won a Super Bowl without a top 8 scoring D. Never.

    2001 Patriots D: 6th
    2003 Patriots D: 1st
    2004 Patriots D: 2nd
    2014 Patriots D: 8th

    On average, the Patriots had a Top 5 Defense every time they won the Super Bowl. Coincidence?

    Of course not. It takes more than a great QB to win a Championship. It takes a great team. Offense, Defense, Special Teams, and Coaching.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.