Colts, Texans tied for first place in the AFC South, at 3-5

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The Houston Texans have trailed by more than 40 points in two different games this season. They’ve benched a starting quarterback, then benched (and released) his replacement. They’re 3-5, and the only teams they’ve beaten have losing records — and most of the teams they’ve lost to have losing records, too. By any measure, the Texans’ season has been terrible.

And the Texans are waking up this morning in first place in the AFC South.

The Colts’ loss to the Panthers last night dropped Indianapolis to 3-5, meaning the Colts and Texans are currently tied for the division lead. (The Colts currently own the tiebreaker advantage.)

Next week the Colts play the undefeated Broncos while the Texans are off, so there’s a good chance the Colts will drop to 3-6 and lose their share of first place. The Jaguars, at 2-5, play the Jets next week and could move into a tie for first with a win. The Titans, at 1-6, aren’t out of it.

Last year’s NFC South may have been the worst division in NFL history, with the Panthers winning it at 7-8-1. But this year’s AFC South looks even worse. It wouldn’t be at all surprising to see someone win the division at 6-10.

A 6-10 team hosting a playoff game sounds ridiculous. But it might happen in a couple months.

81 responses to “Colts, Texans tied for first place in the AFC South, at 3-5

  1. CURSE OF DEFLATEGATE…is very real.

    You scheme, lie, fabricate…and yes cheat…you lose.

    No problem though…Irsay will make sure they put up a 2015 participation banner.

  2. Because of the incompetent ownership of every team in that division. If Manning wasn’t playing in it for so long, I believe there would’ve been multiple instances in which a team with a losing record would’ve won it.

  3. But people like to discredit the Patriots success because of the “weak” AFC East. Look around the league….most divisions are a joke. But this Colts/Texans division is an embarrassment. I hope the Colts get in so the Pats can drop 80 on them in the playoffs.

  4. Rough year for Colts. Terrible on the field and now they’re probably going to lose a top draft pick for tarnishing the shield and ruining the integrity of the game. Not a level playing field when the Colts are around.

    Better put an asterisk on that finalist banner.

  5. A 6-10 team hosting a playoff game while an 11-5 or 10-6 team misses the playoffs will send half of the football watching world into a tizzy they will struggle to recover from.

  6. And the Colts & Texans don’t need another win – it’s mathematically possible, through losing every game outside the division, and these two 3-5 teams tie their rematch and lose or tie the right number of games to the Jags and Titans, that you could see a record of 3-10-3 win a 3-way tie for the division on a tiebreaker! The talent of the AFC South truly scares the parity-mad League office.

  7. It’s time to realign the NFL into 4 divisions with 8 teams in each division. Problem solved. No more teams making the playoffs with losing records. No more teams missing the playoffs with 11 wins while watching another team with only 7 or 8 wins get in.

  8. Would the NFL consider putting the Lions into the AFC South so they can win a div title? at 1-7 they would have a great chance to take the crown. please move them as they are just two easy wins for the rest of the div in the NFC.

  9. A 6-10 team hosting a playoff game over any team with a better record IS ridiculous. Making the playoffs as a division winner is okay, but the teams should be seeded based on records. And…I’m a Texans fan.

  10. The titans at 1-6 are still in it….CLASSIC!!
    & many of the SHEEPLE pundits picked the Colts to win the Super Bowl….. BwaaaaaaHaaaaaaaHaaaaaaHaaaaaaaa!!!!!…. Shoot maybe the Titans will!!?? BwaaaaaaaHaaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa

  11. I know this article is all about hating on the AFC South, I get it….. But I will say, and I’m not a Colts fan. Undefeated Carolina got taken to OT at home versus Indy last night. Just saying.

  12. It’s beyond ridiculous. The thought of a piece of crap team like the Colts or Texans hosting a playoff game is disgusting. And their players, and fans will somehow feel good about this and have some level of hope because “you never know” right?! This is so gross. It’s not some anomaly anymore. This has been a trend now where a team or 2 that doesn’t belong in the playoffs will make the playoffs. The league should take a hard look at making a few amendments to the format

  13. And silly Patriot Hater accuses the AFC East of being the worst do ion in the NFL. 🙂

    New NFL rule: win less than 7 games and you forfeit your spot in the playoffs. A third wild card team gets in.

    Something wrong with the system when a division that is absolute garbage gets a team in the playoffs with 6 wins and a 10-11 win team in another division has to go home. Just watch, it will happen.

  14. PS. Minor correction: 3-10-3 might do it for the other 3 in the division, but Texans would end up behind Colts, so come on Texans! One more win! One more win!

  15. Drastic times do not call for drastic measures. I think it’s disgusting any one of these teams hosts a playoff game, But you win your division you make the playoffs. That should never change but I think they should at least go on the road for the wild card game against said wild card team if they have a better record which i’m sure they will.

  16. “might” be 6-10? I’d bet those odds right now. The Colts don’t look good enough to beat anyone outside of the South.

    Heck, at this point, I’d think about taking the Jags at home against the Colts.

  17. I don’t think Andrew Luck was healthy at all. I think his ribs are still cracked but the Colts injury report says nothing. The Colts are cheating the injury report. Someone call Ted Wells and launch an investigation immediately.

  18. Iam watching MNF last night and we got protesters repelling from the upper level…. I can’t sneak a HOAGIE sandwich into the stadium but apparently rock climbing gear is ok

  19. The NFL should swap Miami and the Colts thus allowing Miami to dominate a division for a while. Moreover, it will allow the Patriots and the Jets to punish the Colts twice per season.

  20. yes they might make the playoffs,but at 6-10 there is no way they’d be “hosting” a playoff game

  21. The Texans are better than their record, as cliched and stupid as that quote is.

    Bill O’Brien benching Brian Hoyer in Week 1, when his numbers weren’t even that bad, was a mistake. How did Hoyer win the job in camp if his leash was an 18 for 34 1 TD, 1 INT game?

    Hoyer got back in as starter too late, and if it wasn’t for Mallett missing the flight he would’ve taken over in the Miami game and who knows if they would’ve beaten Tennessee on Sunday.

    If Brian Hoyer was the starter all year they’d at least be 4-4.

    The Colts play Denver, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Houston, Miami and Tennessee. They could and probably should win at least 5 of those games.

    The Texans play Cincinnati, NYJ, New Orleans, Buffalo, New England, Indianapolis, Tennessee and Jacksonville. I’d be optimistic if they win 4.

    The Ryan Mallett injection is going to come back to haunt Houston. I’d like to see them go on a run, but I just don’t know if it can happen. It’s going to be an interesting race to the finish because either Pagano or O’Brien is gone after the season, whichever doesn’t win the division.

  22. The Texans are there from a lack of QB stability, to their credit. Their D still decently strong, despite some holes in the secondary.

    The Colts are there as a result of incompetent management from the bottom, all the way to the top. We can sit here and blame Luck all we want, first of all he’s still on a rookie contract, so he’s great for the cap. Second, The Colts offense chose to run the ball 26 times in the 1st half, for a TOTAL GAIN OF 86 yards and 6 points!!! Pagano has this image that Frank Gore is some sort of Superstar, which would have been fine and dandy, 8 years ago.

    You can’t throw the ball 10 times in the 1st half and honestly expect to win football games with Andrew Luck as your QB. Does he throw INTs? Sure. Does he throw TDs also? Sure does. Shame on The Colts for forcing pressure onto Luck that quite frankly shouldn’t have been forced.

  23. Is it just me or this NFL season the quality of play has been really horrible?
    The Colts/Panthers game had an exciting end, but most of it was a complete unwatchable mess.
    Same thing with the Steelers/Bengals game on Sunday. Good matchup on paper but turned out to be really ugly.
    Did not watch it, but the Giants/Saints was a joke. Brees is a good quarterback, but 7 touchdowns?
    I used to think that NFL football was the only professional sport worth watching regular season games that did not include your own team. Now, not so much.
    I think the NFL should stop worrying about deflated footballs, expanding to Europe, uniform violations and all that other non-sense.
    Their product is slowly but surely decomposing.
    Maybe adding a Wednesday game will make it all better.

  24. I looked at the remaining schedules and a three way tie between the Colts, Texans and Jags at 6-10 is in play. I mean….those head to head tiebreakers are gonna be huuuge…..

  25. Hell yeah we are tied for first! We are turning our ship around, and the Colts are sinking quickly. We’ve got a week off to fix some more problems and find out what the hell is wrong with Clowney (again). Mercilus is stepping up, and Joseph is finally playing like he knows what he’s doing. Rest up, fellas. This season is going to be magical!

  26. What an absolute mess of a division. I wouldn’t be shocked if they gave us the first 6-10 division winner.

  27. If a 6-10 playoff team happens, it’s no reason to change up the playoff format. The divisional races are exciting for the reason that you only have to be better than your three rivals.

  28. What’s even crazier is that a 6-10 division-winning team wouldn’t even pick in the NFL draft until the mid-20s since they would have made the playoffs. Such a team would do themselves a long-term disservice by winning the division by default since they wouldn’t have a top-10 pick.

  29. Please, please God, I don’t ask for much…, please help Jacksonville win that division. We are all quite fond of that team, like a little brother that has to go to school with bad mouthed, liars and cheaters, every morning.

  30. Tied for first at 3-5! In the AFC South!

    That is really good Indianapolis!
    Sounds like it’s time for another banner!
    You guys participate so well!

    What a precious year to be a Pats’ fan!

    Bring on “RibGate”! Hahahahahah! The hits keep coming!

    We’re not laughing with you. We are laughing at you.

  31. If the Jags make a field goal in regulation or OT against the Colts they would have a share of 1st place in the AFC South at 3-4.
    As it is they’re only a game back at 2-5! LOL

  32. “Last year’s NFC South may have been the worst division in NFL history, with the Panthers winning it at 7-8-1. But this year’s AFC South looks even worse. It wouldn’t be at all surprising to see someone win the division at 6-10.”
    =====
    Wait. You sure about this? People on these boards have been telling me for years that the AFC East is the worst division in football.

    In all seriousness, if you look at the records, AFC East is one of the best divisions (record wise). Not that that’s saying much this year.

  33. elyasm says:
    Nov 3, 2015 8:56 AM
    I wonder what Manning’s stats would look like if he had not played in such a cupcake division for the majority of his career…

    Probably the same as Tom Brady. The AFC East hasn’t sent a team to the playoffs other than New England since 2010.

  34. Grigson has been one of the architects of two of the most over rated teams in recent NFL history, the 2011 Eagles and the 2015 Colts. Both teams signed aged veterans to lucrative contracts with a “win now” plan and failed miserably. Grigson was director of player personnel for the Eagles and he is now GM of the Colts. I guess Irsay wasn’t paying attention to what happened in Philly when he signed off on Grigson’s plan.

    Grigson put the focus on himself during the AFCCG last year when he helped orchestrate the witch-hunt against Tom Brady, possibly the greatest player to ever play in the NFL. Grigson might not be able to motivate his own troops but he has helped light a fire under Brady and the Patriots. Grigson manipulated former Jets executives in the NFL office to target Brady and the Patriots. Grigson’s objectives: beat the team off the field he couldn’t beat on the field.

    He is now under scrutiny for not adhering to the rules pertaining to injury reports and his team has fallen to 3 – 5. Grigson and the Colts are a product of their own making and so are the 7 -0 Patriots.

  35. I’m not rooting against Clowney but every time he’s out, Mercilus comes in and lifts the pass rush in a big way. Hope you get better soon Clowney, but not too soon.

  36. Before we panic about this too much, look at the full picture. Whoever wins the division will probably be 8-8, at worst 7-9. Looks horrible, yes.

    But look at the wild card race in the AFC. Jets 4-3 with QB now injured. Steelers 4-4 and Bell is now out. Raiders are 4-3. No one else is above .500. Looks pretty good that 8-8 might get a wild card.

    So if 7-9 wins the division and makes the playoffs, no one is getting unfairly left out of the playoffs.

  37. You got to laugh at all the ‘expert’ analysis that picked Indianapolis to win the Super Bowl and Andrew Luck to be MVP. I mean seriously, how do these people have jobs when they are obviously clueless?

  38. flash1287 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 7:47 AM

    Over the last 3 seasons the Colts are 15-0 vs the other teams in the AFC South and 17-16 out side the division.

    Soft team…

    =========================================
    The Colts are still looking for their first win of the season over a non AFC South team.

  39. yes they might make the playoffs,but at 6-10 there is no way they’d be “hosting” a playoff game
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    Division champion hosts a playoff game no matter what their record is. 🙂


  40. But look at the wild card race in the AFC. Jets 4-3 with QB now injured. Steelers 4-4 and Bell is now out. Raiders are 4-3. No one else is above .500. Looks pretty good that 8-8 might get a wild card.”

    The steelers are going to finish better than 8-8 if Ben stays healthy. And the raiders could easily finish 10-6 with their remaining schedule.

  41. I second the 4 Division Idea. Makes it virtually impossible for a lousy division winner.

    Makes intradivisional rivalries most special bc you only see them once a year, you create new rivalries with the 4 new teams in the division, and unless you put the two Southd together, you’ll always have at least a few quality teams at the top.

    At the very least, you can’t give a home game to the 4th division winner each year. They almost always have the 5th-6th (or worse) best record. Winning the division would actually be something worth hanging a banner for again, versus today’s ‘Were the best out of a group of 4! Hurrah!’

  42. ProFootballRealignment
    Nov 3, 2015, 7:38 AM EST
    It’s time to realign the NFL into 4 divisions with 8 teams in each division. Problem solved. No more teams making the playoffs with losing records. No more teams missing the playoffs with 11 wins while watching another team with only 7 or 8 wins get in.
    _________________________

    That’s…..that’s not a bad idea

  43. It seems like most of the divisions have taken their turns at this. I agree that the division is an embarrassment this year, but you look back at the Seahawks hosting the Saints in the playoffs with a 7-9 record and it’s not like this is unprecedented.

    The only way to stop this is to re-align the divisions as has been suggested, which I am actually in support of. I think the necessity of having teams play their division rivals twice a year is over-rated, as most fans would rather see their teams play most of the other teams in the NFL.

    I would suggest having 4 divisions of 8 teams. You then play 16 games per year based on playing 4 teams from every division. You won’t play everyone in your division every year, but you’ll see the majority of the league every season. Top-2 seeds are given to the top teams from each division, and then the other 4 teams are simply the best 4 remaining.

  44. 8 team divisions are a dumb idea: You only play 16 games and that leaves just 2 for outside the division. You could go more than a decade without playing another specific NFL team. It’s a scheduling nightmare that just isn’t going to happen (nor should it).
    Even if you expand to 17 or even 18 games still doesn’t make sense from a scheduling standpoint.

    Win your division and you make the playoffs, but not a guaranteed home game. Seed based on record etc..

    Admittedly it would be fun to have a rule that you can’t get in w/out at least 7 wins IF there is a wild card team that has at least 10.

  45. gacoltfan I’m looking at the full picture and the dolts schedule. There is not a chance of them finishing at 7-9. Whoever wins that pathetic division will be fortunate to be 6-10. It’d be pretty embarrassing hanging that banner, division champs at 6-10.. Lol 🙂

  46. ProFootballRealignment says:
    Nov 3, 2015 7:38 AM
    It’s time to realign the NFL into 4 divisions with 8 teams in each division. Problem solved. No more teams making the playoffs with losing records. No more teams missing the playoffs with 11 wins while watching another team with only 7 or 8 wins get in.

    But how would the schedule play out? As it currently is, there’s a good set up. I’m assuming 2 divisions per conference. With a team having 7 division opponents, they’ll play each other once. Playing division teams twice is out of the question. That leaves 9. Would you have them play the other division in the conference, and one other team from the other conference? That is a horrible set up. They would play the same 15 teams every year? If you’re just gonna play a different division every year, what is the point of conferences? Which would then lead to the question: What’s the point of divisions? Rivalries wouldn’t be as exciting since they’d play less often.

    So while a 4 division sounds good on paper, I don’t know if there’s a coherent way to set up a schedule.

  47. You still need a reward for winning your division. I like the fact that they get a home game. It penalizes the team that couldnt win their division. Last year the Panthers got to beat the Cardinals 4th string qb, then played well against the Seahawks. Whoever wins the division(I actually think the Jaguars) will show up in the playoffs.

  48. Colt13 just because you win your horrid division does not mean you had a better yr than a team that went 11-5 and finished 2nd in a much tougher division. But judging from your name I understand you would look for any angle imaginable to justify your team’s impending 6-10 (or worse) record.

    You make an argument that a 6-10 could won their wild card game. That is neither here nor there. They should not be in the playoffs in the first place. The teams with the best regular seasons should fight it out in the playoffs

  49. The minimum for “winning” the division and by extent making the playoffs automaticly, should be a minimum of an ABOVE .500 record. If no team in a division has a winning record then give the spot to a wildcard team!

  50. The schedule mix on 4 divisions is simple:

    7 Division 4 Conference 4 Out of Conference, 1 Like Record unplayed division = 16

  51. It seems like most of the divisions have taken their turns at this. I agree that the division is an embarrassment this year, but you look back at the Seahawks hosting the Saints in the playoffs with a 7-9 record and it’s not like this is unprecedented.

    I would suggest having 4 divisions of 8 teams. You then play 16 games per year based on playing 4 teams from every division. You won’t play everyone in your division every year, but you’ll see the majority of the league every season. Top-2 seeds are given to the top teams from each division, and then the other 4 teams are simply the best 4 remaining.
    ****
    You have to play someone on similar terms, so you create an apples/apples number for tie breakers. 7 intradivision games.

    Most divisions have had bad years, but statistically-speaking over the past 10, the South’s have stood out as particularly crappy, followed by the NFC West.

  52. Panthers could lose most of the games left and repeat the same circumstance winning the division last season.

  53. JJ should have his way but in the end, got to hand it to the Bengals, they are very good in the regular season, Texans lose by 14.

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