PFT’s Week Nine power rankings

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1. Patriots (7-0; last week No. 1): The Jets, Colts, Ravens, Bills, and Dolphins have jointly requested a finding from the league office that the Patriots are a bunch of doodyheads.

2. Bengals (7-0; No. 2): Cincinnati is on to a first-round bye.

3. Broncos (7-0; No. 5): Peyton Manning has been so bad this year that when he’s simply good everyone thinks he’s great again.

4. Panthers (7-0; No. 4): A much tougher opponent than the one they barely beat is rolling into town on Sunday.

5. Packers (6-1; No. 3): Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself.

6. Cardinals (6-2; No. 8): Ready or not, prime time is coming for the Cardinals in each of their next two games.

7. Vikings (5-2; No. 9): The next three games (Rams, Raiders, Packers) will show whether the Vikings are for real or fraudulent.

8. Rams (4-3; No. 11): The Cardinals should be more worried about St. Louis than Seattle.

9. Raiders (4-3; No. 14): They’re in the top 10; indignant Raiders fans will now insist they should be in the top five.

10. Seahawks (4-4; No. 15): They’ve got extra time to prepare for the biggest game of the year so far — a visit from the Cardinals.

11. Falcons (6-2; No. 7): Remember when the Falcons were good? Neither do I.

12. Jets (4-3; No. 6): The Jets are the latest proof of the phenomenon now known as post-Pats-partum depression.

13. Steelers (4-4; No. 10): With Le’Veon Bell done for the year, it’s time to spread ’em out and throw it . . . just as the weather gets ready to turn.

14. Saints (4-4; No. 17): It took a while, but the post-Graham offense is finally clicking like baseball cards in bicycle spokes.

15. Dolphins (3-4; No. 12): Dan Campbell wants them to remember the feeling from Thursday night. There’s a chance they’ll be reliving it regularly.

16. Eagles (3-4; No. 16): Best part of the bye week? No interceptions from Sam Bradford, guaranteed.

17. Giants (4-4; No. 13): Coincidentally, the over/under on wins is also 8.5.

18. Cowboys (2-5; No. 18): “No, that’s not Tony Romo. It’s Matt Cassel. Seriously. It’s Matt Cassel.”

19. Washington (3-4; No. 19): Kirk Cousins won’t like that in New England.

20. Bills (3-4; No. 20): An upcoming three-game tour of the AFC East will show whether these Bills can contend.

21. Buccaneers (3-4; No. 26): Not many teams could recover from blowing a 24-point lead with a win on the road against a division opponent.

22. Chiefs (3-5; No. 27): Just like last year, we all may have written them off too early.

23. Colts (3-5; No. 21): The Colts play their best football when they’re down by two or more scores.

24. Ravens (2-6; No. 30): They could still make the wild-card race interesting.

25. Texans (3-5; No. 29): If they were the Colts, they’d hang a “Got Ken Whisenhunt Fired” banner.

26. Jaguars (2-5; No. 25): In the race to be the best of four bad teams, the Jaguars could be the least worst.

27. Bears (2-5; No. 24): Bears plus Chargers on Monday Night Football equals what else is on TV?

28. Browns (2-6; No. 22): Is it really a fire sale if no one buys anything?

29. Chargers (2-6; No. 23): At this rate, they’ll be offering taxpayer money to pay for the moving vans.

30. Titans (1-6; No. 31): The Chip Kelly bat signal officially is on.

31. 49ers (2-6; No. 28): It wasn’t a trade for Vernon Davis; it was an escape.

32. Lions (1-7; No. 32): They should just cross the border and join the CFL.

185 responses to “PFT’s Week Nine power rankings

  1. Yes — Minny’s next three games will provide a better picture of how good they are or are not.

  2. Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter

  3. The Vikings can beat the Rams. Look at Week 1 2014. And that was in St. Louis. The Raiders have been lucky with Derek Carr.

    If the Vikings can beat 2 of the 3 in any combo, then they can be a contender.

  4. 9. Raiders (4-3; No. 14): They’re in the top 10; indignant Raiders fans will now insist they should be in the top five.

    ————————–

    Nah, im good.

  5. I insist that you put them back at 31 where you had them. I love being hated, disrespected, and made fun of. It makes the guys play with a chip on their shoulder.

    Go Raiders

  6. Number 7 is too high for the Vikings at this time. If they had played better on Sunday, then maybe I’d buy it, but not yet.

    And it’s the next six games that are essentially a murderers row for them: St. Louis, at Oakland, Green Bay, at Atlanta, Seattle, at Arizona.

    The match up with the Rams on Sunday should be a great contest that goes down to the wire. The Gurley / AP battle should be fun to watch.

  7. Cowboys 2-5 with no QB ranked 18 –

    Bizarre -why even bother to do a list if you are that clueless? Bump them way up as soon as Romo is back, but power rankings are all about RIGHT NOW

  8. Even I, as a pats fan, have to admit the broncos win and even manning’s performance was pretty impressive. You could argue that it could be more the packers getting exposed than the broncos being good, but the fact of the matter is that there really aren’t that many good teams in the league this year so you could say that about anyone. Getting Davis also makes the broncos hardy to defend against.

    The fact of the matter is that there really are only a small handful of legit teams: the pats, broncos, bengals (I am begining to believe it myself), and the cards. The panthers are a good team, but I still haven’t seen enough from them to make me believe at this point

    The SB champ is going to be from that list of legit contenders.

  9. You *still* can’t give up on the Ravens and Cowboys despite eight weeks of proof that they both suck.

    The Cowboys haven’t won anything since they lost their QB, and they still don’t have their QB back. They should be way lower. The Ravens just lost their lone playmaker, and have looked at least as bad as the teams below them. Losing Steve Smith should mean a plummet for them.

    Account for the injuries. You can do it. I believe in you!

  10. Everyone keeps sleeping on the Broncos defense. Yes, Manning was ‘good,’ but he didn’t even throw a TD. The defense stifled the best quarterback of a generation and held him to the WORST GAME IN HIS CAREER. The secondary was glued to receivers and the pash rush made A-Rod look like RGIII. The Broncos are a top two team because of their defense, and they proved it against what many people thought was a top two team last week.

  11. I’m a Vikes fan, but think you’ve got them ranked too high. Stellar defense, but offense still a work in progress.

  12. The Vikings are ranked #7 and all over their wins are over teams ranked #22 and lower. Two wins over the 1-7 Lions (and those wins were less than impressive.)

    Remaining Schedule:
    Rams, @ Oak, GB, @ Atl, Sea, @ AZ, Chi, NYG, @ GB.

    I only see 3 (at most 4) more wins for the Vikings this year. Enjoy your season while it lasts! SKOL!

    Meanwhile the Packers get the Lions & Vikings twice and the Bears at home. The Champ in the NFC North will stay in Green Bay for the foreseeable future.

  13. I love how no matter what we do you automatically rank us last in the unbeaten ranks…guess it’ll have to keep shrinking till you have no choice but to rank us #1 lol…keep pounding!!!

  14. Packers (6-1; No. 3): Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself.

    Thanks Ted “one lucky pick” Thompson! I’ve been saying for years Rodgers would have 3 to 5 Super Bowls right now with a decent GM and a competent coach.

  15. I am thinking it is going to be AFC all the way this year. We will see how good the Panthers are after this weekend. Or how good the Packers AREN’T
    Rodgers throwing his receivers under the bus was
    NOT cool.

  16. “8. Rams (4-3; No. 11): The Cardinals should be more worried about St. Louis than Seattle.”

    Yeah I heard the same thing last year, right before the Seahawks beat the Cardinals 54-9 over two games.

  17. The Elias Sports Bureau has made a correction and has clarified that Sam Bradford did throw one interception during the bye week.

  18. If I had to put my money on one unit to get to or win the super bowl, I’m going with Denver. If Peyton can be Trent Dilfer 2.0, they have a chance to win it all.

  19. Do you just automatically rank us as the last unbeaten everytime or do you actually put some thought into it?

  20. The top three teams could be listed in any order and be correct. Any one of the three could beat any one of the other badly on any given Sunday and it would be no surprise to any one, except Pats fans

  21. Ravens jump 6 spots just because they beat the lowly Chargers by 3 points on the last play of the game. Tell the truth, Mike. Do you really put a whole lot of thought in this?

  22. Check out BSPN’s QBR ratings for week 8 for a laugh or 2. It has the likes of Geno’s Smith, Jay Cutler and Aaron “77 yards, 0 TD” Rodgers ahead of Brady, LOL!

  23. Very disappointed we didn’t get to see Arodg do his championship belt celebration for his 77 yd passing yards.

  24. @darkneptune73

    How are the Raiders lucky with Carr? If you mean lucky to have him, I agree. If you mean he’s been lucky, and its not skill, I think you’re off base. I guess we will see what happens when Vikings visit Oakland in two weeks.

  25. Meanwhile the Packers get the Lions & Vikings twice and the Bears at home. The Champ in the NFC North will stay in Green Bay for the foreseeable future.

    —-

    They also had Denver on the ropes and lost by 3; whereas the Packers were completely exposed as pretenders. Not sure if the Vikings win the division this year, but they will be winning it soon, and they’re so young that they will own it for years.

    I dream of the day Aaron Rodgers calls it a career and Green Bay fans realize what it’s like to not have a franchise QB for the first time in 20+ years in a row. Take Rodgers away and the Packers are a 3 win team, at best.

  26. The Broncos are going for broke this year, almost quite literally, trying to trade for Joe Thomas and already have received Vernon Davis in a trade. This is Peyton’s last year to win a championship. Even if he’s back next year, I can’t see this team being as good as it is now, defensively.

  27. kuantan97 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:54 AM
    Can’t wait to see that Denver D embarrass the Patriots at Mile High.

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    You couldn’t wait to see all the interceptions and fumbles from the Patriots when playing with fully inflated footballs either….. How’s that been working out for you?

  28. gronkasaurus says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:44 AM

    Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter
    ———————————————————-
    The schedule is predetermined every year, so the league can’t really make a schedule tough for any team. But for the tinfoil crowd, they did make as many of the toughest games as they could on the road:

    @DEN, @NYG, @DAL, @IND, @HOU

  29. Ugh. As a big PACK guy, it’s hard to disagree that we needed to be knocked down a few spots. I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come. Even if we make the playoffs we know MY GUY ROGERS is proned to chockeing. OH well, I’ll enjoy the season however it plays out. GO PACK!!!

    >

  30. tritz32 says:Nov 3, 2015 10:52 AM

    The Vikings are ranked #7 and all over their wins are over teams ranked #22 and lower. Two wins over the 1-7 Lions (and those wins were less than impressive.)

    Remaining Schedule:
    Rams, @ Oak, GB, @ Atl, Sea, @ AZ, Chi, NYG, @ GB.

    I only see 3 (at most 4) more wins for the Vikings this year. Enjoy your season while it lasts! SKOL!

    Meanwhile the Packers get the Lions & Vikings twice and the Bears at home. The Champ in the NFC North will stay in Green Bay for the foreseeable future.

    …….

    The vikings beat up the Lions in our first match up it wasn’t close as the score indicated. In the NFL a win is a win. You sound so confident but your team just got absolutely shut down vs Denver and lost by 19 points. The vikes went into mile high and lost by 3 points and had a chance to win it at the end… just saying. I’m not guaranteeing wins or a divisional title but the vikes are no longer an easy win, especially to the pack. theyre getting better each week and have a very disciplined defense. SKOL!

  31. 24. Ravens (2-6; No. 30): They could still make the wild-card race interesting.

    Sure if Joe Flacco and throw the ball, catch the ball, rush the passer and go back to playing DB…

  32. kuantan97 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:54 AM
    Can’t wait to see that Denver D embarrass the Patriots at Mile High.

    That SAME Denver D that Brady dismantled last season?

    You think because you now have Wade Phillips AKA Elmer Fud as the coach that will change?

    Go look at Brady vs a Wade Phillips coached D. Like a Jack Del Rio coached D he OWNS Wade too.

    Don’t try to compare Green Bays O to NE, they are totally different.

  33. Hey Panther’s homers, you don’t get a banner for where you’re ranked in week 9 power rankings. We’ve all watched the games this season. Let’s see what you do this weekend and then we’ll talk.

  34. Where is the 6 ring mafia at? Why are the Steeler fans so quiet? Oh that’s right- the Bengals are 7-0 WHO DEY! Come January I will be able to finally say Fear The Ginger without crossing my fingers.

  35. gronkasaurus says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:44 AM

    Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter
    ____________

    The schedule was essentially created in 2002, as it was last year and will be next year. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  36. Vikings suck. Should be around #20 or worse. They will lose to the Raiders in two weeks. LOL
    Raiders will punish the Vikings like an idiot parent after his child pushed another child.

  37. “Panthers (7-0; No. 4): A much tougher opponent than the one they barely beat is rolling into town on Sunday.”

    After being exposed and crushed in Denver, I wouldn’t be so sure about that statement.

  38. Seahawks fans always reference the 54-9 scores from last year. Woo hoo, you beat drew stanton and ryan lindley. No, seriously, congratulations!

    The last time you played Carson Palmer, in your building, you lost. Even with him throwing 4 picks.

    We’ll see what happens on the 15th

  39. You really had to drop us two spots? After we got totally embarrassed on national television? If for no other reason, we should be no. one just because we’re the Acme Meat Packing Co. And because we’re from Green Filet.

  40. Only read this for the comments. Teams play who they play and the only say they have in the successive year’s schedule is where they finish in their respective division. So the schedule comparisons can stop right there.

    They are on to Washington! (Afterall, I don’t play. I just watch.)

  41. Seahawks in the top 10 makes this list a joke. 4 wins(1 gifted from officials)against a 1 win Lions team(who got screwed by the officials), and 3 2 win teams, 49ers, Cowboys, and Bears.

  42. ariani1985 says:Nov 3, 2015 10:47 AM

    But, but, but packer fans were saying they are going to win 19 straight this year

    NOT this Packer fan. I never thought that they were 19-0 good. Too many injuries and I still don’t trust that defense.

    tjacks7 says:Nov 3, 2015 11:05 AM

    They also had Denver on the ropes and lost by 3; whereas the Packers were completely exposed as pretenders. Not sure if the Vikings win the division this year, but they will be winning it soon, and they’re so young that they will own it for years.

    We will see about that. The Vikings are up and coming no argument from me but I think they still have to win something before you can say they will dominate anything.

  43. Rodgers cant do it by himself? And he certainly can’t do it with the Broncos defense smothering and pressing! And the Pats have a pud schedule so far they are only going to play one team in the top ten? Eight of the teams in their regular season schedule are below 50%. Easy way to keep the team healthy going into the post season. Lets see how they would stack up against Dalton and the Bengals! Oh wait they might hurt their Princess Tom!

  44. Yes, Rodgers needs help – mostly from his offensive coaches. When your WRs aren’t winning 1 on 1, it’s time to get a little more creative with motion, pick plays, etc. GB coaches didn’t.

  45. osiris33 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:55 AM

    “8. Rams (4-3; No. 11): The Cardinals should be more worried about St. Louis than Seattle.”

    Yeah I heard the same thing last year, right before the Seahawks beat the Cardinals 54-9 over two games.
    _______________

    Yeah I can see where that 13 point offensive explosion in Dallas would have you excited.

  46. Steelers are about right now at 13. I expect them to move up in the rankings by years end. Big Ben doesn’t have a bad game coming back from injury they easily beat the bungles.

  47. Vikes seem a bit high — hope I’m wrong. Can’t disagree with the “doodyhead” observation though.

  48. A Real Raider fan will KNOW that we must respect the process. there is no way in Hell ID be foolish enough to say top 5?? I know the media is just now respecting us so i’ll let the fact that you don’t know anything about us slide this time hahaha

  49. They also had Denver on the ropes and lost by 3; whereas the Packers were completely exposed as pretenders. Not sure if the Vikings win the division this year, but they will be winning it soon, and they’re so young that they will own it for years.

    I dream of the day Aaron Rodgers calls it a career and Green Bay fans realize what it’s like to not have a franchise QB for the first time in 20+ years in a row. Take Rodgers away and the Packers are a 3 win team, at best.

    ==================================

    Congrats to TJacks7 on the most obvious comment of the century!

    You take away Rodgers, Brady, Palmer, Newton and any other elite QB and said team will be hard pressed to win 3 games.

    Franchise QB’s are important and until you have one (Teddy Turnover IS NOT) I won’t take the Vikes seriously. Your dream is going to have to wait at least another 5 years and then hopefully Hundley is still on the roster because that kid impresses. Carry on!

  50. It’s really funny how loath the haters are to admit that the Patriots are really good. “Schedule softer than butter”? I guess that means that the Pats would only beat Arizona by 14, St Louis by 17, Seattle by 17 ( you need to score TD’s to beat the Pats) and Oakland by 21? Sorry guys, get a grip, those marauding and “cheating” Patriots are going to break your hearts again this year. Hey, here is New Enlgand we’re trying to picture how awkward the trophy presentation will be next February in Santa Clara. I wonder if Roger, TB12 and Mr. Kraft will be all huggy. I am thinking not.

    Enjoy the season haters. It will get better and richer from here.

  51. “…yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule.”

    The schedule for every team is fixed, every year, based on what division they’re in and what position they finished the previous year. Each team, each year, plays six games in its own division, plays each team in another division in its own conference (on a rotating basis), plays each team in one of the division in the other conference (again, on a rorating basis), and plays the other two teams in its own conference that finished in the same position the previous season. So NE plays 6 in the AFC East, plays each team in the AFC South and NFC North, and last year’s first place teams from the AFC West and AFC North (Denver and Pittsburgh).

    In short, the league neither favors nor disfavors ANY team with its schedule.

  52. Ex-Red Sox GM Dan Duquette famously justified a year that the Sox didn’t make the playoffs by saying that during the year they were in first longer than they were not in first place.

    Readers worrying about these ratings should chew on that absurd comment and take a chill pill.

  53. listenup823 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:23 AM

    The non delusional pats fans know they might be walking into a buzz saw in Denver..

    ———-
    The same “buzz saw” and same personnel that the reigning Super Bowl MVP lit up last season? Those guys? 🙂

  54. gatorinsta says:

    Where is the 6 ring mafia at? Why are the Steeler fans so quiet? Oh that’s right- the Bengals are 7-0 WHO DEY! Come January I will be able to finally say Fear The Ginger without crossing my fingers.
    ______________

    Yeah, don’t kid yourself the fingers will still be crossed.

  55. gronkasaurus says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:44 AM
    Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter
    _______________________________________
    There are the Patriots and 31 other teams that are softer than butter. The schedule is irrelevent.

  56. Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself.

    Brady can.

    Yeah right, without Gronk Brady is ok. Before you downvote me delusional Pats fans, check his games when Gronk doesn’t play.

  57. Love my vikings but ya I agree a little high for them at the moment. But for all you other fans out there. A win is a win. If we lost those game what would you be saying. The raiders are overrated and the packers and thier fans and families can all go suck it. #suck it.

  58. nunezmc – Everyone keeps sleeping on the Broncos defense.

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    Glad you have been able to join the “Bronco’s may have the best Defense in the league party” The rest of the world is glad you can make it… even if it’s 7 weeks too late.

  59. Brady doesn’t hold onto the ball trying to extend plays, and the Patriots offense is about 1000x more dynamic than the Packers. Every guy on the field at any given time, that isn’t and OL, is a threat.

  60. STILLlolatpatshaters says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:42 AM

    listenup823 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:23 AM

    The non delusional pats fans know they might be walking into a buzz saw in Denver..

    ———-
    The same “buzz saw” and same personnel that the reigning Super Bowl MVP lit up last season? Those guys? 🙂

    ———–

    Last year was in New England, where the Pats are even harder to beat than they are on the road.

    I’m expecting a hell of a game.

  61. The Giants are right where they should be.

    But…. I can see that…

    the love affair with the Cowboys continue.

    I mean, damn, I think this team can lose all its games and still place higher than most.

    It’s ok, I really just look forward to this weekly ranking for the laughs. And it never fails.

  62. They can’t spread ’em wide enough, Florio . . . your Steelers are toast, just like the Pittsburgh foundries they were named for.

  63. The opponents’ record of the top five teams….

    112 – 152. 40 games under 500.

    The Pats have played exactly 1 team with a winning record – the Jets – and their opponents are 9 games under .500, 7 games in!

    The Bengals have played exactly 1 team with a winning record – the Raiders – and their opponents are 10 games under .500, 7 games in!

    The Broncos have played the tough schedule with three games vs opponents with winning records – Vikings, Raiders and Packers – but the other 4 games against bums as their opponents are 7 games under .500, 7 games in!

    The Panthers have played exactly ZERO teams with winning records and their opponents are 9 games under .500, 7 games in!

    The Packers have played exactly 1 team with a winning record – the Broncos (too soon?) – but they lead with opponents only 5 games under .500, 7 games in.

    Quite a murder’s row of toughness.

  64. Kuantan97, it’s too early to be as drunk as you clearly are, please seek help. TB12 ain’t Ryan Mallett and missing the plane to Denver is the only way that D embarrasses the Pats. Even if he misses the plane, Kevin Plank would let him use one of the under armor jets so that is probably fairly unlikely to occur. Stay in your lane.

  65. Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter

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    LOL just went on ESPN power rankings for week 1…

    Colts were # 4
    Broncos were #5
    Cowboys were # 6
    Steelers were #7
    Eagles were #9

    Not the Patriots fault all these teams did not meet expectations!

  66. Last year was in New England, where the Pats are even harder to beat than they are on the road.

    I’m expecting a hell of a game.


    I agree it will be a very good game. Buzzsaw? Nah. 🙂

  67. “Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter”


    You do know the schedule is a formula and there is exactly zero subjective component to it?

  68. kuantan97 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:54 AM
    Can’t wait to see that Denver D embarrass the Patriots at Mile High.
    _______________________________
    Another troll flaunting their vaunted defense before playing the Pats. Look, we heard it all from the Bills (Rex Ryan), the Jets (best defense in the league) and the Dolphins ($250MM D line).

    These defensive stalwarts show up for a quarter and a half and then disappear.

    The Pats handle these “defenders’ with lunch pail guys like an undrafted center.

    Brady will reduce Denver’s d-line to mortal human beings.

  69. There are currently only 11, yes you read that correctly, eleven teams in the NFL with winning records. 2/3 of the league is .500 or worse.

    So please, just stop with this soft schedule crap. The good teams are just good teams and will keep winning. The rest of the league is clown show this year.

  70. The opponents’ record of the top five teams….

    112 – 152. 40 games under 500.
    —–
    That only means one thing – most of the league must absolutely reek. Which it does. 🙂

  71. the drop off after the top 4 teams in the league is staggering! New England, Denver, Green Bay, Cincinnati, then its just a huge bag of suck from there on down.

  72. Wow Mike, still putting the Redskins behind the other NFC East teams, even though they have already beaten the Eagles and the Cowboys look like they’ll be contending for a top 5 draft pick after their 5th straight loss. I guess the Redskins lose a few spots because of their name lol.

    I prefer the actual standings of the NFC East to make a “power ranking” and right now the NFC East standings say the Redskins are in 2nd place in that division.

  73. STILLlolatpatshaters says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:58 AM
    Last year was in New England, where the Pats are even harder to beat than they are on the road.

    I’m expecting a hell of a game.


    I agree it will be a very good game. Buzzsaw? Nah. 🙂

    ———
    Agreed…..Denver’s D is good. Fortunately we can count on the league leader in interceptions to choke at key points in the game

  74. The Ravens are clearly better than all the teams ranked below them on this list at this moment and are probably better than a couple ranked above them. So to all those whining that it is otherwise know this. The Ravens always fight until the end regardless of injuries or bad breaks. That is why they are always in the mix come years end. This year will be no different. Deal with it. Go Ravens!

  75. All this talk about weak schedules for undefeated teams makes me want to throw up. Steelers lost Big Ben for several games, Cowboys lost Tony Romo and Dez, the Colts, Bills, Dolphins, Eagles, and most the league have been under-performing and somehow that’s the fault of anyone who’s played them? Go take your whining and go somewhere else. Patriots, Bengals, Broncos, and Panthers are all strong teams that have earned their victories.

  76. I agree that the Vikings have a lot to prove, but do you people understand the concept of rankings? If you’re going to rank them lower, that means another team has to be ranked above them. Who are you going to move? Other teams that “seem” like they should be better are losing games. The Vikings are winning games. Move them down when they lose.

  77. There was actually a commenter yesterday who was indignant that anyone would suggest that the Packers aren’t “intimidating.” This same commenter regularly refers to the Vikings as the worst team in the league. Consider this:

    Record:
    Packers 6-1
    Vikings 5-2

    Offense:
    Packers 28th
    Vikings 29th

    Defense:
    Packers 23rd
    Vikings 7th

    Looks to me like ranking the Vikings two spots behind the Packers is pretty reasonable.

  78. “We do not need a Grey Cup drought to go along with the empty Super Bowl trophy case.”

    Lol comment of the day !

  79. 32. Lions (1-7; No. 32): They should just cross the border and join the CFL
    ____________________________
    Too late. Already have the Lions in the CfL.

  80. osiris33 says:
    “8. Rams (4-3; No. 11): The Cardinals should be more worried about St. Louis than Seattle.”

    Yeah I heard the same thing last year, right before the Seahawks beat the Cardinals 54-9 over two games.
    ————————————-
    This is a hilarious, trolling go-to that only exists in ancient history and your feeble mind.

    Yes, congrats to Seattle for feasting on a bunch of broken teams at the end of last year, getting gifted a playoff win by a 7-9 team and receiving another gift on the championship. How’d the game after that go?

  81. Not the Patriots fault all these teams did not meet expectations!
    =================

    True, and they’ve done their job.

    Just LOL at all the Pats’ fans who claim the 7-0 start = the best team in the history of the NFL!

  82. tjacks7 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:05 AM

    Take Rodgers away and the Packers are a 3 win team, at best.
    ——————
    Where’d you get wins 2 & 3 from???

  83. The Vikings are ranked #7 and all over their wins are over teams ranked #22 and lower. Two wins over the 1-7 Lions (and those wins were less than impressive.)

    Remaining Schedule:
    Rams, @ Oak, GB, @ Atl, Sea, @ AZ, Chi, NYG, @ GB.

    I only see 3 (at most 4) more wins for the Vikings this year. Enjoy your season while it lasts! SKOL!

    Meanwhile the Packers get the Lions & Vikings twice and the Bears at home. The Champ in the NFC North will stay in Green Bay for the foreseeable future.
    _________________________________________LOL! You really think the Packers are going to sweep the Vikings?

  84. Keep “guaranteeing” a division title Green Bay. It will be that much sweeter when it doesn’t happen.

    BTW: the “week 9” rankings aren’t the “last 5 years rankings”. Lots of you don’t understand that.

  85. Funny, true viking fans are talking about their team’s rankings while all the usual viking trolls are only talking about GB. Worry about your own team kids, we are just fine. In a few weeks we will have a 2-3 game lead in the division and you gophers will go back in your holes.

  86. jim699 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:22 AM

    Hey Panther’s homers, you don’t get a banner for where you’re ranked in week 9 power rankings. We’ve all watched the games this season. Let’s see what you do this weekend and then we’ll talk.

    ———————————————————-

    Panthers Homers ? I think any fans would be proud of their teams 7 – 0 record.

  87. jim699 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:22 AM
    Hey Panther’s homers, you don’t get a banner for where you’re ranked in week 9 power rankings. We’ve all watched the games this season. Let’s see what you do this weekend and then we’ll talk.
    _____
    The problem with your comment (other than your incorrect apostrophe use) is that it is the same comment that has been made every week this season. None of the other undefeated teams have received the same criticism, even though all of them have had soft spots in their schedule. It’s just very irritating to have 4 teams with the same record and have only one of them dismissed as a fraud every week, when there’s very little difference between Denver, Cincy and Carolina (I’ll grant you that NE is better than the other 3).

    And let’s be honest. If we loose, you and many others will be on here screaming about what a fraud we are. If we eke out a win, you’ll dismiss us as a team that should win bigger and prettier. If we truck Green Bay, you’ll dismissing is again by saying they only beat an overrated team.

    Like I said, two solid months of this has left us Panther fans quite irritated.

  88. The packers ranking seems about right, but the vikes only being 2 spots back is a bit over-zealous I think. They barely squeeked out a victory this week against your number 27th ranked team, and have struggled against some of the weakest teams in the league. Good record, mediocre team.

  89. smarterthanyouoryours says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:56 AM
    The opponents’ record of the top five teams….

    112 – 152. 40 games under 500.
    ===================================

    Your logic falls off the cliff a bit. Those five teams are 33-0 against the rest of of the league. Once you take those losses off of the schedules of the teams they beat, those teams are 112-119. I’ll put it another way. There really aren’t many good teams in the NFL. The AFC playoff picture is already pretty clear because of how many bad teams there are. The NFC isn’t much better.

  90. “rutledge3197 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:43 PM
    The Patriots run a half dozen pick plays over and over all game every game…. That’s all”

    You should stick to women’s collegiate volleyball.

  91. Seahawks fans always reference the 54-9 scores from last year. Woo hoo, you beat drew stanton and ryan lindley. No, seriously, congratulations!

    The last time you played Carson Palmer, in your building, you lost. Even with him throwing 4 picks.

    We’ll see what happens on the 15th

    ___________________________________

    That’s great and all however I never see any Seahawks fans saying any of the things they’re accused of. Just like the dynasty talk last year I never once spoke to a Hawks fan that used that term ever. But whatever makes you sleep better at night. Cards have been playing lights out so enjoy the season. And you’re right, we WILL see what happens on the 15th. Can’t wait. Go HAWKS

  92. dingusgenius says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:47 PM

    “fans who claim the 7-0 start = the best team in the history of the NFL!”

    Post one example of anyone saying that. I’ll wait.
    ==================

    Claiming Pats will go 19-0 isn’t = to claiming they’re the best team in NFL history?

    Shall we pull up examples of that?

    I’ll wait.

  93. listenup823 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:23 AM
    The non delusional pats fans know they might be walking into a buzz saw in Denver..

    I feel that way every week. Never can tell when things may go wonky.

  94. fwippel says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:48 AM
    Number 7 is too high for the Vikings at this time. If they had played better on Sunday, then maybe I’d buy it, but not yet.

    And it’s the next six games that are essentially a murderers row for them: St. Louis, at Oakland, Green Bay, at Atlanta, Seattle, at Arizona.

    The match up with the Rams on Sunday should be a great contest that goes down to the wire. The Gurley / AP battle should be fun to watch.
    ——————-
    Yes it was an ugly win, but lets remember that the Bears have actually been competitive this year. The Raiders and Carr, who everyone seems ready to crown at the moment, LOST to the same Bears team when they played in Chicago.

    I’m not saying the Vikings are worldbeaters, but besides the Patriots and Broncos (Maybe the Bengals) who really has been this year?

  95. This whining over pick plays is getting OLD. Here’s some perspective:

    “It is a deliberate play by the receiver to take out Aqib. No attempt to get open. And I’ll let the league handle the discipline on that play. It’s not for me to decide, but it’s one of the worst plays I’ve seen. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.”

    That’s Belichick after the 2013 AFC Championship game against the Broncos. His issue was with a DESIGNED PICK PLAY which took Aqib Talib out for the rest of the game. Up to that point, it was a pretty competitive game, and the Patriots could have conceivably pulled out the W. However, following the injury, Logan Ryan came out to play significant minutes/downs, and the game was over from that point.

    Welker received no flag for the play; after reviewing the play following the game, the league decided it was legal and didn’t fine Welker.

    Fans showed no outrage; it was determined to be a fair play by a tough competitor that just had an unfortunate outcome.

    The message was clear: pick plays, even one’s that injure crucial players in the game to decide their conferences’ SB representative, are A-OK. So what did Bill do? He made them a FEATURED part of his offense.

    And, shocker, NOW people care. Hell, even the game deciding play in the SB last year was a pick play; did anyone care then? Nope…. why?

  96. Another little tidbit:

    The Patriots lead the league with 7 offensive pass interference calls against them. The team in second has 4. That team is the Atlanta Falcons, who, have played a full game more than the Patriots.

    Thursday against the Dolphins, a TD play was called back because of a flag on Gronk.

    Anyone who thinks the Pats are “getting away” with anyone simply isn’t paying attention…

  97. “Claiming Pats will go 19-0 isn’t = to claiming they’re the best team in NFL history?

    Shall we pull up examples of that?

    I’ll wait.

    0 0 ”

    It’s a shame you’re so easily trolled on the Internet.

    Everyone I talk to and all the sports talk guys are not running around claiming 19-0 is inevitable and that this year’s team is the greatest in history. In fact, most people are anticipating a loss of two, and a tough playoff run.

  98. Denver’s D only gives up 3 points per game less than the Pats D. Not that much better.

    Pats O scores 11.6 more points per game than Denver’s O.

    Advantage: Patriots

  99. “rutledge3197 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:43 PM
    The Patriots run a half dozen pick plays over and over all game every game…. That’s all”


    Just like every other team in the league. And a “pick play” isn’t necessarily illegal.

  100. Whining about a team’s schedule is lame and dumb for two reasons. One, opponents are chosen using a predetermined formula.

    Two, it’s the NFL, a league where owners and Goody change the rules and system to facilitate parity so even the stupidly run teams and their fans can feel relevant year in and year out (I mean here we are with squads like Washington and Houston feeling they can win a division). This results in a few superb teams and a load of hot garbage and mediocrity. So unless two superb teams play each other, no good team will appear to have a tough schedule. Add in the fact that you can’t play against yourself, that’s one fewer good team available to play.

  101. seabrawk12 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:54 PM
    Seahawks fans always reference the 54-9 scores from last year. Woo hoo, you beat drew stanton and ryan lindley. No, seriously, congratulations!

    The last time you played Carson Palmer, in your building, you lost. Even with him throwing 4 picks.

    We’ll see what happens on the 15th

    ___________________________________

    That’s great and all however I never see any Seahawks fans saying any of the things they’re accused of. Just like the dynasty talk last year I never once spoke to a Hawks fan that used that term ever. But whatever makes you sleep better at night. Cards have been playing lights out so enjoy the season. And you’re right, we WILL see what happens on the 15th. Can’t wait. Go HAWKS

  102. “Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself.

    Brady can.”
    —————-

    ^^ Somebody missed Super Bowl XLII. Not to mention every other game he doesn’t have the best TE in football to throw to.

    BTW, when did ‘Brady’ ever win a SB without Belichick and a top 8 scoring D?

  103. “…The vikes went into mile high and lost by 3 points and had a chance to win it at the end… ”

    ==================================
    As a non-Vikings fan, I have to say I have been impressed with how they have been improving the past 2 seasons. But you can’t compare the team they played against over 4 weeks ago to the team that is on the field now. Is this the same Vikings offense and defense that played in week 1? No, they aren’t, they certainly have improved since then; improved a lot. Same with the Broncos.

  104. Vikings are ranked too high, have been all year. Defensively, I absolutely agree, but the Offense is middle of the pack right now, but climbing thanks to Diggs.

  105. Comparing the Denver team that just played the Packers to the one that played the Vikings early is an apples to oranges one. Against the Viks, Denver was still trying to fit a square peg (Manning) into a round hole (under center).

  106. superpatriotsfan says: Yeah right, without Gronk Brady is ok. Before you downvote me delusional Pats fans, check his games when Gronk doesn’t play.

    I was going to check out all of Brady’s games without Gronk, but didn’t have time. So I just did the Cliff’s notes version. Without Gronkowski, Brady has 3 Superbowl wins, 2 Superbowl MVP awards, 2 League MVP awards, & was on the NFL All Decade Team for the 2000s. Since that is better than any quarterback currently playing the game, I think he is pretty good without Gronk. Gronkowski sure is good though.

  107. The Vikings barely beat a team now ranked 20 positions lower. The Bears nearly beat a team now ranked 20 positions higher.

    The Vikings go up 2 slots for beating a team the rankings said they should beat. And the Bears go down 4 slots despite nearly beating a team the rankings said they should have lost to.

    How does that make even the smallest amount of sense?

    Simple logic – if you lose to a much higher ranked team, you stay the same. If you beat a much lower ranked team, you stay the same. Exceptions for blowouts but not one score decisions.

  108. Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter
    _________________________

    How do you win the super bowl and have a pre determined schedule where you only play 1 top ten team all year?

    Maybe they should pre determine draft picks as well by how many times you have not contended for a playoff.

  109. gronkasaurus says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:44 AM

    Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter

    ————-

    Schedule is determined as follows.

    6 division games home and away
    1 full AFC division on a rotation by season and home and away rotates every 3 years.
    1 full NFC division on a rotation by season and home and away rotates every 4 years.
    The 2 teams that finished the previous season in the same position as your team in the 2 AFC divisions that you are not playing.

    That’s 16 games and there’s nothing random about it. The league could theoretically provide a earlier or later bye week, schedule opponents coming of their bye or have teams play against each other at different parts of the season. That’s the control they have. For example, road teams playing against the Super Bowl champ in game 1 of the season haven’t fared very well since the start of the Thursday night opener. That’s something the scheduler controls and it can impact a team. In most cases, I think the scheduling team probably has an almost impossible task to work around other events, etc., so I doubt there is much of an opportunity to give someone a weaker or stronger schedule based on the order of the games.

  110. Mike – seems that no one has asked you what the name of the team is that you have ranked number 19. So I thought I’d ask just for the heck of it.

  111. ktm300xcwe says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:45 PM
    _________________________________________LOL! You really think the Packers are going to sweep the Vikings?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Probably not. The Packers will be resting their starters in Wk. 17

  112. Congratulations to fans of

    Denver,
    Carolina,
    Cincinnati,
    Minnesota, and
    Oakland.

    It’s week 9 and this is as good as it will feel all year for you.

  113. superpatriotsfan says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:47 AM

    Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself.

    Brady can.

    Yeah right, without Gronk Brady is ok. Before you downvote me delusional Pats fans, check his games when Gronk doesn’t play.

    ————–

    You make it seem like Gronk has been there his whole career. He did win 3 Super Bowls without him.

    No QB can do it all by themselves, but Brady has done pretty well with offensive talent that would be seen as week by experts.

    Brady turned guys like Deion Branch and Wes Welker into allstars. Moss was lost in Oakland and Brady got him the TD record the next year. Then he was lost again when he left the Patriots. Brady almost made the Super Bowl with Reche Caldwell as his number 1 receiver in 2006 for goodness sake. Manning pulled off a miracle to beat them in the AFC championship.

    Gronk is a an amazing game changing player, no doubt about that, but Brady has done a lot in this league with B+ players around him with brains and heart as opposed to the top talent in the league.

  114. As a Raiders fan, I *could* say that it’s nice that my team has cracked the top-10 of the rankings as opposed to being in the late 20s. However the fact doesn’t change that anyone’s rankings are purely subjective. I prefer to begin to evaluate a team based on their W/L and opponents’ cumulative record. At any rate, what really matters are the final ranking at the end of year which is reflected (to a large degree) by reverse draft order.

  115. rogerbueno11 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 2:02 PM

    Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter
    _________________________

    How do you win the super bowl and have a pre determined schedule where you only play 1 top ten team all year?

    Maybe they should pre determine draft picks as well by how many times you have not contended for a playoff.

    ———–

    Think about that one. Look at the Patriots schedule and look at what teams were predicted to be before the season started.

    Indy was a consensus pick to win the Super Bowl with their additions of Gore and Johnson.

    The Cowboys were seen as a playoff team for sure.

    The Bills and Miami were seen as the most improved teams and were going to make a run at the Patriots.

    The Giants were seen as up and coming and have the Patriots number.

    The Broncos were going to stay strong.

    That was not a simple schedule prior to the season starting.

    Dez and Romo got hurt.

    Turned out the Bills and Miami weren’t as good as everyone thought they would be.

    Indy definitely isn’t what people predicted.

    The difficulty of the schedule is based on how teams do this year, which is completely unrelated to last year. Hindsight is 20/20.

  116. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Nov 3, 2015 1:19 PM

    The Panthers have won 12 of their last 13 games, with the only loss a playoff game in Seattle. I think they deserve some respect and I expect a win this weekend.

    ———–

    I think they definitely deserve respect. They are the best team in the NFC at the moment.

  117. angrypurplebirds says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:15 PM
    The Ravens are clearly better than all the teams ranked below them on this list at this moment and are probably better than a couple ranked above them. So to all those whining that it is otherwise know this. The Ravens always fight until the end regardless of injuries or bad breaks. That is why they are always in the mix come years end. This year will be no different. Deal with it. Go Ravens!

    —————————————————————-

    Wow. No one loves the Ravens more than me but you are being delusional dude. Time to get a high draft pick and rebuild. But I do agree that the Ravens will not quit (like 49ers,Lions, etc.) Also, I could see the Ravens putting together one good game and raining hell down on someone. Go Ravens!!

  118. icebowler says:
    Nov 3, 2015 1:49 PM

    Comparing the Denver team that just played the Packers to the one that played the Vikings early is an apples to oranges one.
    —————-
    You’re right. A team is healthier earlier in the season. The Packers faced a more beat up Denver team.

  119. pkrlvr says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:47 PM

    Funny, true viking fans are talking about their team’s rankings while all the usual viking trolls are only talking about GB. Worry about your own team kids, we are just fine. In a few weeks we will have a 2-3 game lead in the division and you gophers will go back in your holes.
    —————–
    You had a 2 game lead. And then your QB threw for 50 yards and your team got crushed on national television. It was just two days ago. You should still remember.

  120. I like to hear the optimism about the Bengals getting a first round bye but I just can’t see them beating out Denver for the #2 their schedule gets tough and eventually they’re due for a slip up. I mean Denver could very well easily slip to but I just can’t see us beating them out in the end. Which honestly might be a good thing the Bengals looked rusty off the bye I’d rather them get the 3 seed and keep playing and riding hot momentum. I’m worried about the rest of the game ok the schedule lots of prime time games coming up and history has not been good to us on that. They’re still winning the division just don’t see them finishing ahead of Denver and new England

  121. Packers — What do you mean, “Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself”? He is *supposedly* an elite quarterback and elite quarterbacks should be able to “thread the needle”. So stop making excuses for a guy that can’t nail a receiver that is well covered. Practically every other QB in the league throws to guys that are covered and many of them are successful at making completions. Rodgers has demonstrated he can’t do it.

  122. angrypurplebirds says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:15 PM
    The Ravens are clearly better than all the teams ranked below them on this list at this moment and are probably better than a couple ranked above them. So to all those whining that it is otherwise know this. The Ravens always fight until the end regardless of injuries or bad breaks. That is why they are always in the mix come years end. This year will be no different. Deal with it. Go Ravens!

    —————————————————————

    Thumbs up from a Steelers fan. AFC North teams don’t quit and neither do their fans. Not even in Cleveland.

  123. fwippel says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:48 AM

    Number 7 is too high for the Vikings at this time. If they had played better on Sunday, then maybe I’d buy it, but not yet.

    And it’s the next six games that are essentially a murderers row for them: St. Louis, at Oakland, Green Bay, at Atlanta, Seattle, at Arizona.

    The match up with the Rams on Sunday should be a great contest that goes down to the wire. The Gurley / AP battle should be fun to watch.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    It is funny how many Packer Fans voted a thumbs up on this post when they came to see their team drop like a ROCK when they were EMBARRASSED
    By the Broncos… The same Broncos that would have gone into Overtime with the Vikings if Walsh hadn’t missed an easy Field Goal!
    Yardage vs Packers 500 to 140, Against the Vikings
    340 to 324.. Bridgewater had over 200 Yards Passing, Rodgers the Packers Golden Boy, had 79 yards Passing ALL GAME!!
    Thats fine keep hating and when we take the NFC North, It’ll be even better..
    You havent watching the Vikings replace nearly every player from that 3-13 season in 2013…..
    7-9 last year to 5-2 so far this year….
    The Bears are tough to beat at home.. and will be better next year…
    Packer were exposed for the fraud they are, riding on last years record.. When Carolina beats them on Sunday, they will drop to #8 BEHIND Minnesota!
    as we take the lead in the Division!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    SKOL

  124. I absolutely LOVE the childish Psychology these Packer Fans are trying to use on this Thread!
    It’s like, “My team was EXPOSED, they really Suck so what can I do…hmmm.. I know, I’ll post crap about their team so people don’t think about how AWFUL we are”!
    Yeah, that’s what we’ll do! The sad thing is, Rodgers the ARROGANT JERK he is, tried to throw his receivers under the bus!! That team and their fans deserve each other..NO Class!
    Instead of saying, ” I didn’t have a good game, The Broncos had a better game plan, and out played us in every aspect”. He complained it was because his Receivers weren’t getting open, so it was their fault.
    If I was on his team, I wouldn’t run a rout for him, and I wouldn’t block a defender for him…..
    If he gets knocked around a little, maybe he will realize it is a team sport, you win AND lose TOGETHER! That is what the Vikings are doing this year, they are not the greatest team in the NFL,
    But they are very young, and getting a lot better every week!
    So you guys keep posting your junk, you still won’t win a Super Bowl this year, you aren’t a team!
    SKOL!!!!!!!!!

  125. I really enjoyed reading these comments. Polls bring out the best and worst logic. Such as this gem…

    I always ponder why the Miami Dolphins are not in the AFC South instead of the AFC East. The last 12 years with the Patriots erased and the Dolphins who up to 2008 were the winniniest team would be the most dominant by far, not even a second close. Also, my basic geography tells me that Miami is still well south of Indy, right?

    Anyway, you should all be grateful you are not in the AFC East. The Pats will win this SuperBowl unless Brady or Gronk gets hurt. Literal cakewalk. The goodnews is that they can’t go on forever. Boring-Is it 2017 yet?

  126. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:22 PM

    There was actually a commenter yesterday who was indignant that anyone would suggest that the Packers aren’t “intimidating.” This same commenter regularly refers to the Vikings as the worst team in the league. Consider this:

    Record:
    Packers 6-1
    Vikings 5-2

    Offense:
    Packers 28th
    Vikings 29th

    Defense:
    Packers 23rd
    Vikings 7th

    Looks to me like ranking the Vikings two spots behind the Packers is pretty reasonable.
    ==================================
    Looks like it isn’t. Games are decided by points, not by the amount of yardage gained or given up. So if you look at the defenses by points scored and given up, it looks a bit different:

    Offense:
    Packers 10th
    Vikings: 22nd

    Defense:
    Packers: 6th
    Vikings: 2nd
    (The total difference in points given up between the Packers and Vikings is 8 points)

    The Vikings were creamed by the 49ers, as were the Packers by the Broncos. You want to call the Niners game an aberration? OK, then lets call the Packers/Broncos game one as well.

    Keep in mind that the Packers defeated two of the Top 4 defenses in Seattle and St. Louis.

    The Vikings have gone through the murderers row of the Lions twice, the Chiefs, the Bears and the Chargers. Combined record of their opponents that they’ve beaten?

    9-30, or a winning percentage of .230. My guess is that they have played the easiest schedule in the league so far.

    When you consider that the Vikings wins have come against some of the worst defenses in the league (including the Lions twice), and their offensive stats are pretty awful, with a QB who has only been able to muster 6 TD’s in 7 games, what’s going to happen when they play defenses that aren’t ranked 20th all the way down to 32?

    Of course the Vikings aren’t the worst team in the league. But the fact is, they’ve made their living off of tomato cans so far.

  127. tritz32 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:52 AM
    The Vikings are ranked #7 and all over their wins are over teams ranked #22 and lower. Two wins over the 1-7 Lions (and those wins were less than impressive.)

    Remaining Schedule:
    Rams, @ Oak, GB, @ Atl, Sea, @ AZ, Chi, NYG, @ GB.

    I only see 3 (at most 4) more wins for the Vikings this year. Enjoy your season while it lasts! SKOL!

    Meanwhile the Packers get the Lions & Vikings twice and the Bears at home. The Champ in the NFC North will stay in Green Bay for the foreseeable future.
    ———————————-
    Only if little Erin can pass for more than 77 yds against a GOOD defense. Hasn’t happened yet. That’s all I’m going to say. I’m not going to brag about my Vikings or predict the remainder of the season, because unlike you I don’t pretend to have a crystal ball. I just hope they play the absolute best they can play and stay aggressive. SKOL. Go Panthers!

  128. conormacleod says:
    Nov 3, 2015 2:41 PM
    icebowler says:
    Nov 3, 2015 1:49 PM

    Comparing the Denver team that just played the Packers to the one that played the Vikings early is an apples to oranges one.
    —————-
    You’re right. A team is healthier earlier in the season. The Packers faced a more beat up Denver team.
    ——————————
    Keep telling the fairy tales, Cheeseheads, if it makes you feel better.

  129. To argue that the Vikings had it easy because the Lions have a weak defense is ridiculous. The Vikings inflicted 25% of the damage to the Lions’ defense, so the Lions’ defense would only be expected to be good if the Vikings sucked. But the Lions have a weak defense. So you have to chalk that up to the teams that beat them, i.e. the Vikings.

  130. The Packers have played so poorly against the top defenses (yards/game) that they’ve played that they’ve actually made those defenses’ statistics improve significantly. Why did the Packers win a couple of those? Because opposing teams caught the lambeau field “penalty bug”, that’s how. Or they got bit by the “Rodgers Challenge”, where no red flags or time-outs are needed. Aaaron just puts on the cry-baby face and complains to the stripes who then get on the radio headsets and talk to NY to decide what should happen. I have video, so there is no denying this.

  131. lindacaseauthor says:
    Nov 3, 2015 6:58 PM

    Only if little Erin can pass for more than 77 yds against a GOOD defense. Hasn’t happened yet. That’s all I’m going to say. I’m not going to brag about my Vikings or predict the remainder of the season, because unlike you I don’t pretend to have a crystal ball. I just hope they play the absolute best they can play and stay aggressive. SKOL. Go Panthers!
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    The Seahawks pass defense is ranked 2nd in TD’s given up and 3rd in yards given up.

    The Rams pass defense is ranked 1st in TD’s given up and 9th in yards given up.

    That would probably make them 2 of the best pass defenses in the league, and 2 of the best overall defenses in the league.

    Is that GOOD enough for you?

    Little Erin Rodgers threw for 249 yards and 2 TD’s against the Seahawks in a win.

    Little Erin Rodgers threw for 241 yards and 2 TD’s in a win against the Rams in a win.

    Against 2 of the lesser pass defenses in the NFL, the Chiefs and the 49ers, Big Teddy Bridgewater threw for 249 and 231 yards, and 1 and 0 TD’s. 1 win and 1 loss.

  132. expertatnfl says:
    Nov 3, 2015 8:35 PM

    The Packers have played so poorly against the top defenses (yards/game) that they’ve played that they’ve actually made those defenses’ statistics improve significantly.
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    Wrong.

    The Rams are 9th in the league in yards given up.

    The Seahawks are 2nd, right behind the Broncos.

    The Rams defense (against all others except the Packers) gives up 329 yards per game. The Packers had 322 yards against the Rams, 7 less than the average.

    The Seahawks defense (against all others except the Packers) gives up an average of 274 yards per game. The Packers had 361 yards against the Seahawks, 87 more yards against the average.

    When you include the Packers stats against the Rams, the Rams average yards given up is 328.

    So the Packers brought the average per game down by a yard. Which couldn’t be any less significant.

    When you average the Packer game into Seattle’s stats, it actually makes the Seahawks defense (285 ypg) WORSE by 11 yards per game.

  133. Those games that Rodgers threw for a bunch of yards and scores were those games that have been well documented where the officials didn’t stop the play after the offensive players moved. Sure it was a defensive penalty, but the plays should have ended and the players knew it, so they stopped playing.

    So even a grade school QB should score when it’s an illegal free play and the defense isn’t trying.

    If that’s an “elite” QB, you guys need to learn football.

  134. Another common “blunder” that seems to occur with GB opponents is being “caught” with 12 men on the field. Rodgers is the most elite QB for getting his offensive line to snap the ball prior to the required 1 full second of being set.

    Only an elite QB can make zero time appear to be a full second with a full team set at the line. NO QB in the NFL does it better. I mean, he should just go into the hall of fame today.

    I got the videos.

  135. expertatnfl says:
    Nov 3, 2015 8:15 PM

    To argue that the Vikings had it easy because the Lions have a weak defense is ridiculous. The Vikings inflicted 25% of the damage to the Lions’ defense, so the Lions’ defense would only be expected to be good if the Vikings sucked. But the Lions have a weak defense. So you have to chalk that up to the teams that beat them, i.e. the Vikings.
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    You’re not serious, are you?

    “so the Lions’ defense would only be expected to be good if the Vikings sucked”

    The Lions defense is bad regardless of whether or not the Vikings are the best or worst team in the league. Simply pull out the Vikings stats against them and see how all of the other teams do against them.

    The Lions, without including the 2 Vikings games, give up 385 ypg. The Vikings averaged 387 yards against the Lions, which would hardly change that.

    The Vikings scored 5 ppg less than the average of all other teams against the Lions.

    And yes, the stats are dependent upon the teams that play them. How else would it be?

    The Lions have one of the worst defenses in the league, a record of 1-7, are 32nd (last) in the league points given up, and 27th in yardage.

    And they are giving it up to some of the worst offenses in the league.

  136. steelers back at 13 from a 6 point game loss to the bungles put us at 0-2 in the division but steelers have managed to win games against teams with better records than Medicore teams with loss to jets,bucs, browns last year and still continue on doing so sitting at 4-4 this season

  137. I don’t really have a dog in the fight, my team is in another division….

    What is with you bitter Vikes fans??

    Your team is 5-2. Enjoy it. It seems like all you can do is talk smack about the Packers though….did the Vikes beat the Packers on Sunday night or was it the Broncos?

    We all saw the Packers get the crap kicked out of them in Denver…why do you keep bringing it up? Tell us something about YOUR team instead.

    Packers seem to live in your heads.

    you do realize that Aaron Rodgers has a ring right?

    you do realize that the Vikes have no rings right?

    Yes, who cares about the “13 world championships”…..I can agree with that…..Super Bowl wins are where it’s at…..

    Green Bay has 4…Pittsburgh has 6…the Vikes have 0.

    Give it a rest with the hatred, at the end of the day you’re talking is kind of silly.

    The Vikes are clearly on the rise and look like they will make the playoffs. Be happy.

  138. Aaron Rodgers can’t do it all by himself.

    Brady can.

    —– a New England Bedtime Story —–

    Brady lines up over himself. Surveys the field, and nods to himself in the slot. Snaps the ball to himself, and drops back. Eludes the first wave, while chopping the blitzing safety coming off the edge. Unleashes a 99 yard pass/bomb just as he gets hit and knocked down, and then, miraculously picks himself up, and runs like the wind, while outracing the entire defensive backfield, and catches the 99 yard bullet perfectly in stride for the TD. YAY!

    Brady looks over at himself, after spiking the ball in the end zone, and says “Let’s go for it Tom!”. “Well, Tom, it’s safer to just kick the thing for the 1pter. So, I disagree with me wholeheartedly”, he replies to himself, while the cameras pan in on Brady apparently having an argument with himself at the 10 yard line.

    Ref throws the hanky for delay of game, while Tom and not-Tom appear on the verge of duking it out over going for it, or not. The good Tom yells at the ref; “WHY? It wasn’t me! That was my evil twin who caused the delay and he is just a figment of my imagination….waaaaaa”

    Ref picks up the hanky and says; “Oh, didn’t realize that was evil Tom’s doing, Mr. Brady. So sorry.”

    Ref then throws the hanky again, and calls a penalty on the opposing team for “being insensitive in New England”.

    ====

    Hope you enjoyed tonight’s bedtime story kids. Tomorrow, we are gonna read how Tom Brady once single-handedly cured cancer with only the beauty products lent to him by his lovely wife. Curing cancer, one blush+eye liner application at a time! If it works for the Kardashians, it must surely wilt, tremble, and fear before the almighty majesty that is Tom Brady!

    And now for a little bedtime joke…”Why are many NE fans like astronauts on Star Trek?” They both enjoy removing Klingons from..err, never mind that part, lol.

  139. Packers are lucky to be at #5. Arron Rodgers hasn’t beat a winning team on the road in 9 straight games.

    The packers have benefited from a weak division for the past few years, and defenses are starting to play press coverage on their mediocre receivers.

  140. Why are Vikings fans crowing about anything? When was the last time the Vikings won anything of significance? And let’s be real, any Vikings fan would give his left nut to have Aaron Rogers over Teddy as their QB…..

  141. gronkasaurus says:
    Nov 3, 2015 10:44 AM
    Patriots schedule and your rankings:

    13. Steelers
    20. Bills
    26. Jaguars
    18. Cowboys
    23. Colts
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins
    17. Giants
    20. Bills
    3. Broncos
    16. Eagles
    25. Texans
    30. Titans
    12. Jets
    15. Dolphins

    …yeah the league is really out to get the pats with that schedule. Softer than butter
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    Yeah except for the fact that the AFC East is widely considered the best division in football this year, nice try though. If you really want to see soft scheduling look no further than Denver’s 1-3 point victories over some of the worst trash the NFL has to offer…so they had one good win after a bye week at home in prime time, BIG DEAL. Rodgers and the Pack ALWAYS play like crap outside of Lambeau, its a fact.

  142. corkspop says:
    Nov 3, 2015 11:14 AM
    Raiders better than Falcons, Seahawks, Steelers, and Saints? Ummm…….. No.
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    Except ummm…..yeah. Seahawks WILL NOT make the playoffs, not only are they underneath the superior Cardinals but the Rams are also a better team. Steelers are the Bengals red-headed step child. The Falcons? Really? Please, this team is a paper tiger with zero quality wins. The Saints might be able to steer their ship around before the season is over but the Raiders have a MUCH better chance of actually making the post season…you know, when the season actually matters.

  143. 32. Lions (1-7; No. 32): They should just cross the border and join the CFL.
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    So Henry Burris can throw for 400 yards and 5 TDs against them?

  144. Vikings fans be like “we lost by less than you to the Broncos”. Packers fans be like “Niners bro”

  145. jasonpc98 says:
    Nov 3, 2015 12:07 PM
    the drop off after the top 4 teams in the league is staggering! New England, Denver, Green Bay, Cincinnati, then its just a huge bag of suck from there on down.
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    I think you need to take out Green Bay and definitely insert Carolina.

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