NFL had Hardy photos, subject to a court order

AP

The Cowboys aren’t saying whether they saw the photos from the Greg Hardy criminal case before signing him to a contract. The NFL is acknowledging that the league indeed had access to multiple photos generated by the incident.

According to the league office, NFL investigators obtained photos from the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department along with seven photographs that had been provided to the District Attorney by a non-law enforcement source. (The NFL filed a lawsuit to obtain those seven photos.)

The photos were obtained subject to a protective order, which expressly limited their dissemination to the league, the NFL Players Association, Hardy, and any attorneys, investigators, and expert witnesses working on Hardy’s case. The protective order generated in connection with the seven photos from a non-law enforcement source does not authorize the league to share the photos with any team(s) considering the possibility of signing Hardy to a contract.

A separate protective order was entered in connection with the photos provided by the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department; presumably, that document also did not allow the league to give the pictures to any team that may hire Hardy.

As to whether the Cowboys saw any photos, the league referred PFT to the Cowboys. The Cowboys separately have declined comment.

If the protective order kept the Cowboys from reviewing the photos before signing him, the question becomes whether they wouldn’t have signed him if they’d seen the photos — and in turn whether they will continue to employ him now that they have.

The league relied on the photos in determining that Hardy should receive a 10-game suspension. On appeal filed by the NFL Players Association, the suspension was reduced to four games by the NFL’s hand-picked hearing officer, former league office employee Harold Henderson.

124 responses to “NFL had Hardy photos, subject to a court order

  1. this guy needs serious help. He’s a sick man and I would love seeing Dallas send him for mental treatment. He is seriously disturbed and just sick.

    Some things are more important than football, jerry.

  2. A four game suspension? I am very close to ending my life long relationship with the NFL. I have a guitar and there a lot of women to serenade. How long do they think they can do this without us bolting to some other activity.

    Get the SOB out of the league.

  3. If the Cowboys had access to these photos like the NFL did then there is no excuse to why this guy is on the field and not locked up in jail. Way to be a “Real Leader” Greg

  4. The “league” serves the owners. You can be sure that Jerruh saw the pictures. You can also be sure that he gave ole Rog the wink and nod to reduce the suspension. Despicable act by Hardy. Even worse for Jerruh to justify the behavior by rewarding Hardy.

  5. Oh nfl… If you would just be up front and take the heat before the decision…. Or change the policies to actually do what you want it to look like you’re doing, you wouldn’t look so sloppy.

  6. Just as long as Hardy doesn’t deflate footballs, or wear a Patriots jersey, Goodell could care less.

  7. To all the fans:

    If you really have a problem with this, boycott the Cowboys and league. Notify the Cowboys and league in writing of your discontent and provide possible solutions to this problem.

    Otherwise, if you continue to what you do (watch week after week and buy tickets, apparel, etc), then nothing will change.

    Are any of you going to do any of that? Yeah, I didn’t think so. #hypocrisy

  8. Czar Goodell had the Hardy Pictures…4 games…Goodell disavows Mother Nature to frame Brady….4 games….These are your heroes..Goodell, Vincent, Kensil, Jerry Jones..you should be so Proud of your NFL.

  9. Of course the only real question left to answer is when will some team find a bug in the Patriots dressing room. Roger desperately needs a diversion. What better than to throw the Pats under the bus like he did last year, and how many draft picks will Roger take from them this time.

  10. None of the photos showed Hardy did anything. The coke-head could have fallen down. Coke makes you bruise easy.

  11. I could get away with a lot these days if the only way that punishment was enforced was as a result of having photo evidence. The NFL seems to only react when that is the case. Unfortunately my doughy physique does not translate to NFL material.

  12. The NFL can’t ban these guys for life. Hardy wasn’t even convicted of any crime. He got a 10 game ban initially, and the NFLPA appealed it down. What more do you want? We live in a broken world – the NFL can’t fix that. Roger G can’t just ban someone for life because people don’t like him.

  13. next we’re probably going the hear Goodell say “I would have kept the suspension at 10 games had I heard the appeal myself”

  14. What people are mad about someone else that doesn’t play for the patriots.so I guess spy gate is nothing compared to this right.see people what hardy did is a crime he should go to jail.what Brady he would not go to jail people.go pats

  15. vbe2 says:
    So, the NFLPA saw the photos and still appealed the suspension?

    Why is the PA getting a pass on this outrage?
    _______________

    The NFLPA had no choice but to argue in favor of his reinstatement. He is a dues paying member of the union, they had no grounds not to support the dirtbag. If they didn’t he could have sued and won easily. Does anyone really think the NFLPA wanted to go to bat trying to protect Aaron Hernandez bonus money?

  16. I don’t understand what difference it makes if they did or didn’t. Loser has a sheet for this – enough said. He’s a proven menace to society specifically women.

  17. This guy is clearly a loose cannon who hasn’t learned a damn thing based on his behavior so far this year. Football players generally aren’t choirboys, but this guy is a turd of epic proportions. I am sure there are plenty of Cowboys players who are pretty uncomfortable having a ticking time bomb like Hardy on the team.

  18. Sad and scary fact of the day:

    If Roger or Jerry’s Mom, Aunt, Niece, Sister, Daughter, Granddaughter got beat up by anyone they’d be totally okay with it because it’s just part of the game.

  19. The Players ASSociation is Like.Any Criminal Lawyer. Protecting A Man? Who Beats Up a Woman !!! That’s Who They R and What They Do … And Those Lawyers R OK With It as Long As They Get Paid

  20. So, the NFLPA saw the photos and still appealed the suspension?

    Why is the PA getting a pass on this outrage?
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    The PA’s job is to uphold fair work practices, not dole out punishment. All a union does is work for fair workplace and treatment. It’s not up to them to make a judgement call on guilt innocence or despicable-ness.
    The NFL could have said no to the appeal, but they were too focused on deflated footballs to care about something like a beating. Think about that…they upheld Brady to 4 games, but reduced Hardy. Like they didn’t know in this day and age the photos wouldn’t get out?
    Sad. We just came out of the golden age of football and in one year it is all crumbling down. Domestic issues, Concussion issues, slow down of the game because the rules are so convoluted even refs don’t know them, lack of good quarterbacks and maybe the worst leadership of any sports league.

  21. vbe2 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:15 PM
    So, the NFLPA saw the photos and still appealed the suspension?

    Why is the PA getting a pass on this outrage?

    —————————————-
    YES!! This exactly. They help make the NFL worse and worse daily.

  22. Ladies and Gentleman, I introduce you to a ‘leader’ of the Dallas Cowboys, Greg Hardy.
    Jerry Jones would let Ted Bundy lead the team if it meant wins.

  23. People like him don’t deserve anything I don’t care what the situation was, any grown man that beats on women or forces themselves on women is a straight coward! I guarantee you he’s not trying that on any guy cuz he knows he’s getting hit back. In my mind it’s a form of bullying because he’s only picking fights with people (mainly women) he’s bigger and stronger then. Dez got in his face what did he do?…..exactly.

  24. Jerry Jones is a sleaze bag. Winning trumps everything in his eyes. And he still doesn’t win!

  25. vesh31 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:15 PM

    If the Cowboys had access to these photos like the NFL did then there is no excuse to why this guy is on the field and not locked up in jail. Way to be a “Real Leader” Greg
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    How are the Cowboys going to lock him up in jail?

    His case was expunged. To all intents and purposes, this guy never got in trouble.

  26. You don’t need photos to know this guy is a horrible human being…..just like you didn’t have to see the Rice video inside the elevator to know he knocked his wife out… we all know that Hardy doesn’t deserve a second chance, just by his actions he hasn’t learned a thing….this does open my eyes to what a horrible human being Jerry is….and I used to like him as a owner, he’s a guy who wanted to win but when you put trash on your team over and over again you know longer are giving players a second chance you become their enablers….

  27. The NFL has become one big turnoff, thanks to all these turds, owners, coaches, players, you name it.

    It’s one big turd bowl.

  28. takeachancellor says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:17 PM
    Oh nfl… If you would just be up front and take the heat before the decision…. Or change the policies to actually do what you want it to look like you’re doing, you wouldn’t look so sloppy.

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    I have no idea what you are trying to say. The NFL admits they saw the photographs but were prevented from showing them to anyone else by a court order. They then gave Hardy a 10 game suspension which the NFLPA appealed and got reduced through arbitration.

    Tell me what you think the NFL should’ve done that it didn’t do?

    How about some criticism of the NFLPA?

  29. Goodell didn;t do anything wrong here. He suspended this P.O.S. for 10 games and the arbitrator knocked it down.

    The real person to blame for this is the girl that allowed herself to get Paid Off by Hardy. He should be sitting in a jail cell somewhere. Instead she took the money and ran.

    It’s inexcusable.

    Don’t worry, Karma is going to get this guy something fierce.

  30. So under what legal right did the NFL and the NFLPA have the pictures? If they could get them then any member of the public should be able to get them.

  31. Just this week in the news was a story about a guy who repeatedly open hand slapped a driver who was giving him a ride. That guy was immediately fired from his executive position with a fast food franchise. But in the NFL???

  32. The NFL has now entered the sphere of the XXX porn industry. Disgusting beyond belief but still making BILLIONS!

  33. HOLY COW. And they deemed THIS equal to a little air pressure in footballs that MAY have been tampered with!??

    THIS IS JUST ASTONISHING. How could Goodell let this filth back on the field after seeing those.

  34. BringBackTheFlex says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:11 PM
    I saw the photos. I didn’t see Hardy doing anything.

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    That’s actually a valid point. Not defending Hardy at all but there are plenty of instances where women have manufactured evidence up to and including rape.

    It wasn’t that long ago that a high school football star got his rape conviction overturned because he got the woman to admit on tape that she only accused him of rape because she didn’t want her mother to know she was having sex.

    That and the $1.5 mil from the school when her mother sued them for allowing the rape made it extremely lucrative for her.

  35. Don’t worry – Rog is going to appease the masses and take away another pick from New England.

  36. tattooit says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:35 PM
    HOLY COW. And they deemed THIS equal to a little air pressure in footballs that MAY have been tampered with!??

    THIS IS JUST ASTONISHING. How could Goodell let this filth back on the field after seeing those.

    ——————————-

    How about Pat fans stop with the “woe is me” posts in every thread? It is very childish.

    Keep in mind the suspension was reduced to 4 games in arbitration requested by the NFLPA. Why don’t you go complain to them?

  37. This should surprise no one. This is about money, and hardy being a souless monster means nothing if he helps the team win games. This is repeated over and over, every year.

  38. I have nothing against Cowboys fans in general. I’ve got friends who are Cowboys fans.

    That being said.

    Greg Hardy is Scum.

    If the Cowboys organization does not jettison Greg Hardy immediately, they are Scum.

    If Greg Hardy remains on the Cowboys and you continue to support the team and wear their jersey and buy their merchandise, you are, at the very least, a “Scum Enabler”.

    If you love your team, Cowboys Fans, show your displeasure as loudly and repeatedly as you can and help get this waste of oxygen off your roster!

  39. Do we really need the “How many games will the Patriots be suspended for this” post on EVERY comment thread.

    Stop already, that comment hasn’t been clever for months now.

  40. jag1959 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:24 PM

    The NFLPA had no choice but to argue in favor of his reinstatement. He is a dues paying member of the union, they had no grounds not to support the dirtbag. If they didn’t he could have sued and won easily. Does anyone really think the NFLPA wanted to go to bat trying to protect Aaron Hernandez bonus money?
    ===============================

    You’re missing the point of what I said. They’re getting a ‘pass’ in the media. Also, there have been cases where the PA has not taken up a case for a player. A little searching could come up with the instances, but I’m not going to do that. If you’re interested, you can.

    Point is, they fought to get this scumbag reinstated, knowing the evidence against him.

    That’s very different from fighting for bonus money that may or may not have rightly been earned, regardless of the crimes committed.

  41. Please cut him before Sunday night!! Please! Shame I have little regard for the girl. He hit her before. She begged him back. What did she think would happen? Obviously a money grubber. Nelly for a friend? Gold digger. Didn’t deserve that. But it will keep happening to her if she get’s involved with football players with CTE. Which after reading her statement he’s a candidate.

  42. proudchowdahead13 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:17 PM

    Imagine the uproar if Hardy was with the Patriots?
    ______________________

    If Hardy was with the Patriots, they would have immediately cut him and offered all their fans full refunds on any Hardy jerseys they may have purchased.

    Just like they did with Aaron Hernandez.

  43. First, Hardy is scum. But shame on all of us if we are somehow more upset about this after seeing photos of what we already knew to be true. Sad that this is what it takes for the public to wake up but hopefully it raises awareness to the problem. Domestic violence cannot be tolerated. Domestic violence committed by highly athletic gigantic men who are capable of abusing other highly athletic gigantic men DEFINITELY cannot be tolerated. The NFL should have a zero tolerance policy. One instance of hitting a woman and you are banned for life.

  44. eagleswin says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:38 PM
    tattooit says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:35 PM
    HOLY COW. And they deemed THIS equal to a little air pressure in footballs that MAY have been tampered with!??

    THIS IS JUST ASTONISHING. How could Goodell let this filth back on the field after seeing those.

    ——————————-

    How about Pat fans stop with the “woe is me” posts in every thread? It is very childish.

    Keep in mind the suspension was reduced to 4 games in arbitration requested by the NFLPA. Why don’t you go complain to them?

    After a year of listening to shears it from haters everywhere Pats fans get to call out anyone they want.

  45. “I saw the photos. I didn’t see Hardy doing anything…. The coke-head could have fallen down. Coke makes you bruise easy.”

    Punches from a guy who outweighs you by 150+ pounds make you bruise easy, too.

    “The Hardy pics were nothing. If your girl cheats on you with ‘Nelly’ you should be well within your rights to do far worse than that.”

    There’s never a good reason to put your hands on somebody you supposedly care about. Your woman cheated on you? Forgive her or leave her. Little boys start throwing punches when they’re upset. Men act like adults. And men who are mentally unstable steroid freaks–are little boys. And sociopaths should be locked up.

  46. pdidit09 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:37 PM

    How does the media get a pass to destroy people’s lives?
    =============================

    Are you seriously blaming the media for Hardy beating this woman black and blue?

    Seriously?

    Greg, is that you?

  47. How about Pat fans stop with the “woe is me” posts in every thread? It is very childish.

    Keep in mind the suspension was reduced to 4 games in arbitration requested by the NFLPA. Why don’t you go complain to them?
    ——————-

    We’re only getting started. Goodell stole draft picks from the fan base with the longest, most stubborn memories in all of professional sport. Your unborn grandkids will be reading comments from Pats fans still PO’d over #framegate.

  48. Mo’ Pro Babble says:

    “After a year of listening to shears it from haters everywhere Pats fans get to call out anyone they want.”

    Go to your NE sports media echochamber if you just want to hear lies about how great and innocent the Pats are.

  49. Typical fake outrage from the PFT offended crowd.

    First of all, she got paid and was traveling all over the country on the money. She wasn’t that traumatized.

    Second of all, Hardy didnt play football all year last year, while the Keystone Cops NFL investigative team was doing their “investigation”, which probably took all of 2 weeks.

    Third of all, he was suspended for 4 games this year.

    What more do you idiots want? Banned for life? I mean gimme a break. Its not like these guys are playing backgammon or chess for a living. Newsflash they play a very violent game, that you have 2 be not normal to play in the first place. Stop with all the fake outrage and get a clue.

    The victim got exactly what she wanted. She got paid

  50. Integrity of the game right Rog? With all the leaks at NFL league offices regarding deflated footballs (maybe), these pictures never get out there? Huh?

    I guess if you cloak your players in pink for a month, make millions off pink NFL merchandising and give less than 8% to actual breast cancer research, who cares about the domestic violence that oozes out of the nfl.

  51. vbe2 says:
    You’re missing the point of what I said. They’re getting a ‘pass’ in the media. Also, there have been cases where the PA has not taken up a case for a player. A little searching could come up with the instances, but I’m not going to do that. If you’re interested, you can.

    Point is, they fought to get this scumbag reinstated, knowing the evidence against him.
    _________________

    I didn’t miss your point at all, you blew right by mine though. I have no doubt whoever represented the dirt bag probably felt the need to scrub their own skin off afterwards but they had no choice. If anyone thinks that Delta Bravo wouldn’t have won if he sued them for declining to help him they are sadly mistaken. The union had no choice.
    It sucks but there it is. If you can find an instance where the union declined to represent an active member in a disciplinary arbitration hearing I would love to see it, I couldn’t find one

  52. What’s the big deal? We sweep things under the rug all the time.

  53. Fire Roger Goodell!

    What a POS he is. After Hardy’s suspension was reduced from 10 to 4, he accepted it and said nothing even though he saw tons of graphic and lawful evidence. However, after Brady’s suspension was lifted by a federal judge, Goodell* immediately decided to appeal even though there was no evidence at all.

    Goodell is evil!

  54. Does Jerry still believe he is one of the “leaders” on the team. If I was another Cowboy player I would be very insulted by that comment.

    Guy is a pure dirtbag who, on his first 2 weeks back, said he “enjoyed his year off with pay”, talks about coming back with “guns a blazin” and makes derogatory comments about other players wives and then basically attacks a coach.

    Some leader. Go Jerry!

    Cowboy fans should be outraged.

  55. Don’t worry guys…this event does not affect the integrity of the game…and all the league lawyers are busy trying to win a lost battle.

  56. This keeps getting worse……The league thought Brady had footballs adjusted by .2 PSI, and wanted to suspend him for 4 games…..They SAW what this piece of garbage did to the woman here, and they only went for 10 games, and then Henderson arbitrated it down to 4???? Are these people serious….You can pinkwash every month of the season if you want, but these greedy monsters are pigs, and I hope they all burn.

  57. Pathetics fans using every extra account name to comment fire Goodell. There is something we have never see on here before. They are so interesting and original.

  58. makes derogatory comments about other players wives and then basically attacks a coach.
    =================

    Recognizing that a women, who makes millions parading around in her underwear, is attractive is hardly derogatory. Slapping a clipboard is also hardly an attack.

    Over-react much?

  59. accipiterq says:

    This keeps getting worse……The league thought Brady had footballs adjusted by .2 PSI, and wanted to suspend him for 4 games…..They SAW what this piece of garbage did to the woman here, and they only went for 10 games, and then Henderson arbitrated it down to 4???? Are these people serious….You can pinkwash every month of the season if you want, but these greedy monsters are pigs, and I hope they all burn.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    NFL/Goodell were just trying to “protect” the shield and it was for “the integrity of the game”.
    I would add “ROFLMAO” but there is nothing funny about this.

    And to think Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was one of Goodell’s biggest cheerleaders in his quest to destroy TB.
    Makes me sick to my stomach.

  60. fanofpft says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:43 PM
    “Pathetics fans using every extra account name to comment fire Goodell. There is something we have never see on here before. They are so interesting and original.”

    I love it. Their zealous presence makes it really easy to see which are rational comments. More often than not, they’ve already thumbs-downed the heck out of them. Maybe they think this is reddit and that means something?

  61. Don’t like it? Don’t watch.

    You people wishing to destroy others is sad. As for Hardy, he served his time for the league. What else do you want? So many people these days and their sensitivities.

  62. Here’s the problem. The victim will no longer testify so as a matter of law Hardy is innocent. There are also other problems. The victim had a history of cocaine and alcohol use that cause her to exhibit confrontational behavior. Before this incident the victim was seen pulling her car behind Hardys in a restaurant parking lot. She blocked
    Hardy’s car got out and started kicking his door. Finally when security was called she backed off. So with this history and her decision to
    take money not to testify, Hardy must be presumed innocent.
    She could have testified and still received a civil payment by filing a lawsuit. In addition the DA could have still used the victim’s testimony
    at trial. It is my understanding that in 70 percent of cases that are appealed where the victim refuses to testify at the second trial …the DA’s office still proceeds using the victims prior testimony. It is my understanding that in the 30 percent where the DA chooses not to use the prior teatimony it is because the victim has given inconsistent statements that can be construed as unreliable. It is also my understanding that the DA did not use the victims testimony at the second trial was because the victim gave inconsistent versions of the facts in her 2 statement and her testimony at the initial hearing.
    I’m not saying Hardy should not be penalized. He did miss almost a fullseason and was suspended and fined. What he allegedly did was and is reprehensible.
    The victim has decided to move on and get on with her life……given the facts Hardy has a right to do so. If he does repeat this behavior he should be suspended for life.

  63. As troubled as Hardy is…..The real SICKNESS in the NFL, is the greed and cover ups by Goodell, Kensil, Vincent etc….

    Sure…Jerry Jones feels that Goodell correct in deflategate…and thought so to deflect away from his attention w/Hardy.

    Roger..you are sick

  64. He deserves the Ray Rice treatment. What a pile of BS by the NFL and the Cowboys. Those pictures are not a surprise according to what whe had heard.

    Roger Goodell deserves to get fired for this incredible hypocrisy. The moment something terrible becomes graphic doesnt make it worse. Its just that you cant lie with a straight face anymore about beeing responsible about this issue.

    Im happy my Raiders evolved enough so we dont have to cheer for scums like him. Mark Davis actualy militates against domestic violence with Fred Biletnikoff.

  65. Goodell saw these photos but didn’t fight the appeal that reduced the suspension. But he is still fighting the Brady situation where literally zero evidence has ever surfaced. He has got to be the worst commissioner I’ve ever seen in any sport.

  66. fanofpft says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:43 PM
    Pathetics fans using every extra account name to comment fire Goodell. There is something we have never see on here before. They are so interesting and original.

    Oh hi, Roger’s intern, welcome to the comment board!

  67. As a life long fan of the NFL, I never thought I’d actually reach the point where I’d consider shutting my TV down on Sundays, but over the past few years, more and more stories like this come along and really make me question why I invest so much of my time, energy & money watching a game that is:

    -played mostly by young, violent, greedy, uneducated psychopaths

    -team-owned by greedy bloodsuckers who only care about squeezing as much $ out of the average fan as they possibly can

    -league-controlled by a front office filled with greedy, degenerate scumbags, who only care about squeezing as much $ out of anyone and everyone as they possibly can

  68. montrealraider says:
    Nov 6, 2015 7:03 PM
    He deserves the Ray Rice treatment. What a pile of BS by the NFL and the Cowboys. Those pictures are not a surprise according to what whe had heard.

    Roger Goodell deserves to get fired for this incredible hypocrisy. The moment something terrible becomes graphic doesnt make it worse. Its just that you cant lie with a straight face anymore about beeing responsible about this issue.

    Im happy my Raiders evolved enough so we dont have to cheer for scums like him. Mark Davis actualy militates against domestic violence with Fred Biletnikoff.

    ——————————–

    I don’t recall Goodell lying about Hardy’s suspension. Please enlighten us as to what Goodell did wrong/lied about with Hardy’s case other vague slander?

  69. Goodell is too busy fabricating stories about ball pressure to worry about really protecting the integrity of the game. The funny thing is, most fans of the NFL are just fine with Rogers brand of justice. This story, like the others regarding beating women and children will die quickly. Nothing to see hear folks, move along. Patriots are cheaters! I read it on the internet!

    You need something as scandalous as ball pressure irregularities to really get the fan base stirred up. I wonder why it’s no longer a topic since Goodell got laughed out of court? Weren’t we suppossed to measure the balls before, during and after every game and record and publish the results? It obviously makes a huge difference. Remember the Patriots had the lowest fumble ratio in the league because they cheated and played with as that idiot Grigson said “Small Balls”? Guess not because they are fumbling even less now. Surely Brady can’t throw a fully deflated ball. The only reason he was so good is because he obviously cheated and created an unfair advantage. Except he’s having one of the best years in his career. Right Harbaugh? Ray Lewis? Trot Aikman? Jerry “Stickem” Rice? Kurt Warner? ESPN? Sports Illustrated? Mort Anderson? Dungy? Irsay? Jerry “Greg Hardy is a LEADER on this team” Jones? Remember, protect the shield. It’s buried under Ray’s Ray’s White suit.

  70. grandpoopah says:
    Nov 6, 2015 7:30 PM
    Goodell saw these photos but didn’t fight the appeal that reduced the suspension. But he is still fighting the Brady situation where literally zero evidence has ever surfaced. He has got to be the worst commissioner I’ve ever seen in any sport.

    ————————————–

    It wasn’t a court appeal, it was binding arbitration which both sides agreed to in the CBA. Court cases and arbitration are 2 very different things.

  71. styro1 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:50 PM
    accipiterq says:

    This keeps getting worse……The league thought Brady had footballs adjusted by .2 PSI, and wanted to suspend him for 4 games…..They SAW what this piece of garbage did to the woman here, and they only went for 10 games, and then Henderson arbitrated it down to 4???? Are these people serious….You can pinkwash every month of the season if you want, but these greedy monsters are pigs, and I hope they all burn.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    NFL/Goodell were just trying to “protect” the shield and it was for “the integrity of the game”.
    I would add “ROFLMAO” but there is nothing funny about this.

    And to think Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was one of Goodell’s biggest cheerleaders in his quest to destroy TB.
    Makes me sick to my stomach.

    ===========

    Refresh my memory as to why this is Goodell’s fault? Should he have been in the room with Hardy and stopped him from assaulting her?

    Did he hide evidence or go light on Hardy? Is there a shred of rational reasoning behind the blind Goodell hate?

  72. The NFL IS CORRUPT.

    When is the Justice Department going to investigate the corruption at 345 Park Avenue?

  73. 3 Finger Lenny says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:10 PM
    roger is pure evil

    Why? Because he suspended Hardy for 10 games only to have it reduced? Kind of puts a different light on Bradys’ overturned suspension. The NFLPA is no different than the “thin blue line” that bad cops are shielded behind.

  74. It’s a good thing the NFL focused so much of its resources over the last year on such a critical thing as whether or not as assistant took 0.2 psi out of the balls.

  75. How much did Jerry pay Roger to reduce Hardy’s suspension? Absolutely incredible given the NFL had seen the photos and read the transcript.

  76. Dear gallopinggilmore, if you can’t see the difference, then you are not very bright. Goodell had the info that Deadspin dug up and published and he sat on it. Just like the Ray Rice video. He kept the “Pats are cheaters” meme out there for 9 months and repeatedly lied about the facts of the story. He used his henchmen in the media who know where their bread is buttered to further perpetuate the lies. He fined the Pats $1ml, and a 1st round draft pick. He compared what Brady “Probably should have been aware of” to the fixing of the world series. He smeared a role model athelete while he tried to cover up for; 1. a guy who split his 4 year olds scrotum open with a switch, 2. a guy who knocked his girlfriend out, spit on her and dragged her by the hair, and Greg Hardy. See the difference yet? And for everyone complaining about what Patriots fans are saying, enjoy the Brady / Belichick / Kraft FU tour, it’s coming to a Prime Time game near you.

  77. You can hate him all you want but to this point its cost him Millions of dollars, and he was suspended for 19 games….what’s the line? Permanent ban? If the NFL allows michael vick to play, and Big Ben the rapist to play then Hardy surely has a right to play. Lets not forget about Adrien Peterson who whipped his child so bad, his scrotum bled. Why aren’t any of you critics bringing that up? He can play but Hardy Can’t?

  78. haminator says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:28 PM
    vbe2 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:15 PM
    So, the NFLPA saw the photos and still appealed the suspension?

    Why is the PA getting a pass on this outrage?

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    YES!! This exactly. They help make the NFL worse and worse daily.

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    They are a union, and in this day and age my friends, that’s all they do

  79. jag1959 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:26 PM

    I didn’t miss your point at all, you blew right by mine though. I have no doubt whoever represented the dirt bag probably felt the need to scrub their own skin off afterwards but they had no choice. If anyone thinks that Delta Bravo wouldn’t have won if he sued them for declining to help him they are sadly mistaken. The union had no choice.
    It sucks but there it is. If you can find an instance where the union declined to represent an active member in a disciplinary arbitration hearing I would love to see it, I couldn’t find one

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    I’m pretty sure the NFLPA declined to represent Michael Vick in his disciplinary hearings. But of course, that was because the dead dogs couldn’t be paid off to not press the charges that ultimately resulted in him being found guilty and sent to prison.

    In my mind the ‘pass’ the NFLPA is getting in the media does not surround their defending of Greg Hardy (because their current by-laws do basically require that), but it lies instead in their refusal to take steps to allow them to take a stronger stand against the bad seeds amongst them. If 99% of the players are decent upstanding citizens, they should have zero tolerance for the 1% that are bad seeds like Greg Hardy and Ray Rice that cast black clouds over the group as a whole.

  80. Yes, but was he generally aware that there may have been air released from footballs, which may or may not have actually happened? Who cares? Let’s just say he was and get to suspending him! We have no time for this domestic violence nonsense, wht with the integrity of the game on the line and all.

  81. Get if Goodells case. He needed to suppress this. He can’t afford to be all caught up in a silly little woman beating case when all his time and effort is needed to keep trying to get this air pressure problem to mean anything.

  82. eagleswin says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:38 PM
    tattooit says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:35 PM
    HOLY COW. And they deemed THIS equal to a little air pressure in footballs that MAY have been tampered with!??

    THIS IS JUST ASTONISHING. How could Goodell let this filth back on the field after seeing those.

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    How about Pat fans stop with the “woe is me” posts in every thread? It is very childish.

    Keep in mind the suspension was reduced to 4 games in arbitration requested by the NFLPA. Why don’t you go complain to them.
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    You are gonna have to give the Pats fans this round. The fact is Goodell just let it go when Hardy got his suspension reduced, if he had any objection to it he certainly kept that to himself. But the Brady thing he still won’t stop buying every candle yo push it. To this day it’s an open issue that further time and money are going to be spent on. It’s going to drag into next spring last I heard. Maybe further since we don’t know what the future holds. But the Hardy thing he just shrugged and dropped it. No Pats loving thing here but when it come to actions speaking Goodell’s certainly have.

  83. Many other players were under contract when domestic violence issues arose and they were cut. Same needs to apply. This guy is bomb waiting to go off. Cut him. Move on. He doesn’t belong in any sport that he can be misconstrued as a row model. He’s certainly not.

  84. alcottclan235 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 9:17 PM
    “Dear gallopinggilmore, if you can’t see the difference, then you are not very bright. Goodell had the info that Deadspin dug up and published and he sat on it. Just like the Ray Rice video. He kept the “Pats are cheaters” meme out there for 9 months and repeatedly lied about the facts of the story. He used his henchmen in the media who know where their bread is buttered to further perpetuate the lies. He fined the Pats $1ml, and a 1st round draft pick. He compared what Brady “Probably should have been aware of” to the fixing of the world series. He smeared a role model athelete while he tried to cover up for; 1. a guy who split his 4 year olds scrotum open with a switch, 2. a guy who knocked his girlfriend out, spit on her and dragged her by the hair, and Greg Hardy. See the difference yet? And for everyone complaining about what Patriots fans are saying, enjoy the Brady / Belichick / Kraft FU tour, it’s coming to a Prime Time game near you.”

    Dear alcottclan235
    If you even bothered to read the article above you and have the reading comprehension of a 7 year old. You would see that the NFL was not legally permitted to share those photos with the rest of the league, the PA, Hardy himself, lawyers or investigators. Also, missing from all of this, is whether or not Dallas even WANTED to see them.

    So NO. Goodell still did nothing wrong here and you’re still being stupid. Once again, you guys believe you can cover up lies with more lies. That is the Patriot Way.

  85. How about Pat fans stop with the “woe is me” posts in every thread? It is very childish.

    Keep in mind the suspension was reduced to 4 games in arbitration requested by the NFLPA. Why don’t you go complain to them.

    They wanted the same for lady brady. Hypocritical also.

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