Photos of Greg Hardy domestic assualt victim emerge

AP

It was a lot easier for Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to declare defensive end Greg Hardy a “real leader,” and brush aside concerns about his previous domestic violence arrest, because there was no visual to go with the charges.

And while it might not be as viscerally jarring as a videotape of Ray Rice punching his wife in the face, we now have more evidence of what happened between Hardy and his former girlfriend in Charlotte

Deadspin has published a gallery of photos of Nicole Holder, showing her injuries from the incident in May 2014. There are a number of shots of large bruises on her back, along with injuries to her arms and legs and feet. The photos were part of evidence that was sealed during his trial.

He was convicted by a judge in Charlotte, but the case was thrown out on appeal after Holder didn’t appear in court, following a civil settlement. The charges were expunged from the record this week.

Hardy was initially suspended 10 games by the league for violating the league’s personal conduct policy, but that was eventually shortened to four.

If the NFL had access to the photos published today, it helps explain commissioner Roger Goodell’s going hard with the initial punishment, after the embarrassment of initially suspending Rice two games.

201 responses to “Photos of Greg Hardy domestic assualt victim emerge

  1. Some of these are sickening. Who honestly can root for this guy? He has shown no remorse and gets rewarded. Unreal. Putting his hands on a woman like that is the true sign of a coward.

  2. I might be in the minority, I don’t know, but if you put your hands on a woman (other than if she’s trying to literally kill you) or a child and cause physical harm, you shouldn’t be allowed to play football again. I’m all for second chances, but causing physical pain to someone you’re supposed to love? Get outta here. He’s an awesome football player, but he’s a tool of a human.

  3. So you can tell from the pictures that Greg Hardy caused the injury? I am sure that a girl looking fir a quick money grab, which she got by the way, would never bruise herself!

  4. Come on, where are all his fans who cried that he already served his punishment with the suspension and should be allowed to make a living in the NFL?

  5. I’m sure that Mr. Hardy & the Cowboys spin doctors/apologists will do their best to discredit Ms. Holder.

    I hope that she & others are wise enough to avoid Greg Hardy, going forward.

    Stay classy Cowboys!

  6. We were not aware of these photos. Something Something integrity.

    Coming soon from you know who.

  7. The whole NFL should be suspended… You are teaching men to be violent on the field, but not off the field. That is a difficult switch for men with below average intellect.

    Hardy should be suspended now, and the NFL is shamed yet again.

  8. What a piece of garbage. I can’t believe the Cowboys actually defend this guy. It’s all about his talent on the field that they care about. Real classy organization.

  9. I still don’t understand why after Hardy was convicted and appealed that both he and the woman weren’t also charged with obstruction of justice. Apparently, they allow criminals just to pay off witness down there not to show up and criminal convictions are just set aside. Can you imagine just being able to pay of the witness AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A SERIOUS CRIME and you can make it just go away by throwing money at the witness? Where did they get their legal system from, Mexico!!!

  10. Wow, I just read someone saying she did it to herself???? What if this were your mother, sister, cousin, or friend? How would you feel then?

    You, my man, are a whole different kind of ignorant. She was found by the police barefoot screaming from the apartment. He was found guilty by a judge. He does not deserve to be in the NFL making millions. He deserves to be doing some time.

    Joking aside, this takes Dallas to a all time low!!

  11. Cowboys fan here.

    Awesome player, but I want him gone. This is the one time I want the Red Dictator to rule with an iron fist and suspend him for at least a season and require him to attend 6 months of domestic violence classes before he can even file for reinstatement.

    This made my stomach turn. He’s gotta go.

    The Culture of the league needs to change asap

  12. And it’s not like he’s any better on the field. Put aside the recent blow up and go back to his Patriots postgame interview. They scored all of 6 points at home, while giving up 30, but he was proud of himself because he thought he played well. By definition you cannot build a team with such a man.

  13. Absolutely disgusting this guy still plays football. Now let’s see if Dallas releases Him like they did Randle. Look what you stand for JJ.

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  14. I’d probably be in the minority, but while think he should be in jail, frankly I don’t like the idea of the NFL as a 2nd justice system. It’s not the NFL’s job to punish Hardy for his crimes; that’s the criminal justice system’s job. Just because it failed doesn’t make it his employers job to punish him.

  15. Kind of puts deflated footballs (where firsthand knowledge is completely questionable) into perspective. WTF is wrong with the leadership of this league? #FireGoodell

  16. With Jerrah’s money and influence, you know that he saw these pictures before deciding to sign this P.O.S. Hope we never have to listen to Jones talk about values, morals, ethics etc. again, he’s just as guilty as Hardy, perhaps worse for basically enabling and endorsing Hardy’s conduct.

  17. Expunged or not, the fact that the Cowboys know this about him, but will continue to let him play, says really horrible things about their organization.

  18. Domestic abuse is a coward’s crime. That being said, why on earth was this girl “dating” this guy. His music video alone is undeniable proof that he has no taste. In the famous words from Prime Time’s (Deion Sanders) music video days (which didn’t work out either), “Must Be the money…” Hopefully this young lady can find someone what has something other to offer than money in the future, if she so desires.

  19. I honestly thought I would throw up after looking at what that veil human being did that that women.

  20. Holy Crap….the Cowboys should be ashamed of themselves. This is a real problem in the world not the name of some sports team.

  21. Pictures look bad, sure. But we have laws in place for a reason. What if she tripped down the steps drunk and just blamed him? Y’all would be ready to convict!

    He had a trial by jury and was found not guilty.

    You can’t prosecute an assault without a complaining witness.

    It is better to release 1000 guilty people then it is to convict one innocent person.

  22. Skaffin says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:43 PM
    Roger the Fraud is more concerned with minor equipment tampering than the welfare of people associated with his sport.

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    This isn’t on Roger…his suspension was reduced. This is all n the Cowboys for employing him and now enabling hm.

  23. An indictment against pretty much everybody: the NFL in general, the Cowboys, and our justice system. Can any of us regular guys even imagine a chain of events that would have led us to not only getting off but having our records totally expunged when somebody half our size looked like she does in those photos?

  24. zvikes says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:39 PM
    I’d probably be in the minority, but while think he should be in jail, frankly I don’t like the idea of the NFL as a 2nd justice system. It’s not the NFL’s job to punish Hardy for his crimes; that’s the criminal justice system’s job. Just because it failed doesn’t make it his employers job to punish him.
    *************************

    Pretty sure if I did that my employer would not want their name associated with me and I’d be fired.

  25. Something doesn’t add up. By the sheer size of Hardy, the bruises should have been much worse. Booze, drugs and Nelly….who knows. I’m not saying Hardy is innocent as a schoolboy but I don’t think I could have convicted him based on proof beyond a reasonable doubt because I have some reasonable doubts what went on with all these characters.

  26. Jerry said that Hardy has all the respect in the world from ALL of his teammates.
    #1 I don’t believe that.
    #2 Dallas players can’t be happy that Jerry would say such a ridiculous thing on their behalf.

  27. cobrala2 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:48 PM
    Fear not guys, this is where the commissioner shines like the flaming turd that he is.

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    I’m curious, what exactly do you think the commissioner should be doing in this situation as it’s clear that you intend to vilify him regardless?

    Keeping in mind that he would still be suspended if Goodell had his way and that an arbitration board shortened the suspension.

    I think the one that looks bad in all this, besides Hardy, is you, not Goodell. Some people will vilify Goodell no matter what he does.

  28. Man if i wasn’t thrilled Carolina parted ways with Hardy before, i sure am now. The guy is an animal.

  29. Randle was released because that was in the best interest for the Cowboys. AKA “Well we have McFadden so we don’t need Randle”

    Hardy will not be released because that’s in the best interest for the Cowboys. AKA “Well we don’t have anyone as good as him so let’s just say he’s a leader and keep moving forward.”

    Pathetic.

  30. The photos are disgusting. Cowboy fans should question the judgment of ownership for bringing this guy into the community where they live and raise their families.

  31. NFL hides knowledge of Ray Rice video and along with Ravens ownership/management makes the victim state she was the cause of the incident.

    Now the NFL reinstates Hardy, had probably seen these photos long ago, and will double talk and lie again.

    Why are there any women fans of the NFL again ? They obviously care zero about domestic violence unless a video or photos they were trying to conceal comes out.

    Jones has only one option if he cares the slightest about his reputation. Cut Hardy now. Today. Period.

  32. If you….um……watch his pre assault workouts…you will um see he was very inspirational….I um firmly believe he needs an um extension

    Whatever Jerry

  33. Takes a real man or leader if you will to beat a smaller, much smaller woman.

    I bet he was scarred that is why he beat her. He needs an arsenal too to protect himself from this woman

    Drop me a note, I have a bridge to sell.

  34. gallopinggilmore says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:33 PM

    Maybe we should start questioning the sport’s culture instead of demonizing individuals.

    Wrong, as usual.

    Broad brush the league? You do get that most players don’t act like this, right? It’s not “demonizing” it’s called accountability.

    Now if you want to question a certain “culture” within the league we can have that conversation. But I’m guessing you won’t. I sense an agenda.

  35. Just goes to show that if you have talent, the powers that be will do whatever it takes to keep you on the field. If he wasn’t as good, he wouldn’t see another day on an NFL team.

  36. I, like many, totally agree that Hardy is complete dirtbag and has no business on a football field, except if there is one at the state pen.

    That being said, if Hardy is a complete dirtbag, what does that make Jerry Jones who not only signed this guy but is also toying with the idea of giving him an extension? If Hardy had been blackballed like Ray Rice, he would ha ve disappeared into oblivion. Jerrah is nothing but an enabler.

  37. kd75 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:45 PM
    Pictures look bad, sure. But we have laws in place for a reason. What if she tripped down the steps drunk and just blamed him? Y’all would be ready to convict!

    He had a trial by jury and was found not guilty.

    You can’t prosecute an assault without a complaining witness.

    It is better to release 1000 guilty people then it is to convict one innocent person.
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    Actually you can prosecute without a witness. If the evidence is enough.

  38. This is ridiculous already. Like the Cowboy Haters need more fuel.
    To all of those “holier than though” fans lets not forget how a certain LB who got away with murder was loved by all after the fact. OR a certain WR who was convicted of murder was allowed back in the league and then played for the Ravens (how strange)
    Lets also not forget that this woman took money to not show up in court so lets be realistic here.
    People that live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
    Go ahead and thumbs down all you want but lets be realistic this league is made up of a TON of violent men, heck violence is there job. Lets stop acting like Hardy is the one bad apple spoiling the whole bunch.

  39. Under the CBA the league has done what it can, time for the team’s to stand up and say NO. Carolina did when they cut him loose and said they wan’t no part of him. Cowboys and Jerry Jone’s reputation should be put to the test now, Cut the POS Jerry as he should not be in the league, unless it is a penitentiary league.

  40. Kd75: he was found GUILTY, by a judge. The appeal was thrown out of court because the victim settled a civil suit and didn’t appear in court. Obviously along With the financial award , part of the settlement must have included the victim declining to appear in court for the appeal. The article doesn’t state he was found not guilty by a jury as you stated!!!

  41. kd75 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:45 PM
    Pictures look bad, sure. But we have laws in place for a reason. What if she tripped down the steps drunk and just blamed him? Y’all would be ready to convict!

    He had a trial by jury and was found not guilty.

    Make up some more facts while you’re on a roll. He was convicted at his bench trial. The victim never showed up to the jury trial because Hardy paid her off. Or because she was afraid that he’d kill her. Or both. Because she did not show up, case dismissed.

  42. I hope the other players on the cowboys see this as well…I couldn’t work beside, with or within the same organization knowing the devil himself is on my team.

    Everyone should share this with the world…make sure everyone knows what kind of trash the league and especially Jerry Jones employ’s.

  43. This guy is the biggest POS. You know someday he will do something worse and the NFL will have some REAL explaining to do.

    You spend millions going after a guy (who has never had any legal issues) for maybe knowing about some air missing. You go after teams for texting on the sidelines. You fine guys for wearing a name or color on their uniform…. The list could go on with this meaningless BS

    And then you see these pictures and …….. suspend him for games. The legal system failed miserably and then the NFL did AGAIN!!

  44. All you Roger badgers from Bradygate now can shut up as he gave a longer punishment but the Players Union and Hardy won that in court also . So where’s the hate for the arbitrator who obviously saw the pics? The Players Union for not only not kicking him out but supporting his beatings by getting the punishment reduced? Not one player in the NFL came out against helping this guy? Seriously. Surprised the Players Union isn’t at Hernandez trial trying to get that reduced also .. Pick your poison they share the blame .. Jerry Jones should lose his team as there has to be a line set that no amount of winning is worth crossing..

  45. I hope Greg Hardy sues deadspin for slander and wins. Why else was it reported now? So we never forget what he did? We know what he did. There was 0 new information reported in that article. He served his punishment in the eyes of the law and the NFL. I think it’s time to move on. Not a Cowboys fan either.

  46. Greg Hardy should be ashamed.
    This is terrible.

    But whats more is that Greg hardy continues to play football, meanwhile Dan Synder is considered a bigot.

    Some wacky world we live in.

  47. Good for you Deadspin. Boo on you Goodell letting this guy play professional football ever again. Boo on you American justice system for letting this guy walk around free. Boo on you howaboutem14 for just not getting it. This isn’t about football, this is about men who break the one cardinal rule of what being a man is all about. Biologically and morally, our only job in life is to protect women, doing anything else is just disgusting.

  48. I’ve read a couple actual pieces of journalism regarding this whole situation.
    Let me preface by saying there are always two sides to every story, and there’s the truth. What we have been told by PFT, and multiple other outlets is that Hardy is the sole perpetrator and the woman is completely innocent.
    From what I’ve read, he was trying to end the relationship (she was a waitress, or dancer and was known to be taken home with athletes and guys with money). She was known to have bouts of mood swings and was not letting him leave the apartment they were in. So… Hardy himself called the cops first when she was barricading herself. He told the police on the phone (it was recorded), that the woman was crazy, hitting him, and throwing things at him and that they needed to come get here before things escalated. One side of Hardy’s story also alleges that he left one of the rooms to get away from her, and when he came back, she had some bruises on her… Done by either her, or her friend that was supposedly with them.
    So… Just saying, we don’t know everything. She obviously didn’t find it important enough to go to court for, and I believe she was fine settling for an undisclosed amount of money outside.

    Regardless, I’m just putting it out there, right or wrong, I’m not going to argue. I also know that this isn’t going to change the evil empire of the NFL – the Cowboys – and how so many of you are on these pathetic witch hunts against them. Pretty sad on your part when the team has gone 20 seasons with 2 playoff wins. You want to talk about them being irrelevant, why are you talking about them and why do you go out of your way to criticize them?

  49. “Certainly not excusing Hardy but I thought the photos would be much worse.”

    Well given that the story goes she was beaten and thrown on a pile of guns, I’d say photos of someone with cuts and bruises literally all over their body is pretty bad.

    You’re right, she could have gunshot wounds or something, but this is bad enough for him to be banned from the league.

    “it could be worse”. yes, unless limbs and head are missing, it could always be worse. Stupid statement.

  50. It’s a sad but proven fact if you can play at a high level teams will look the other way regardless if the player is a scumbag or not.

    As a Cowboys fan I don’t like it either nor Jerry’s moronic statement calling him a leader. He’s full of crap on that.

    Now some of you morons are full blown hypocrites and trolls acting like Dallas is the only team to have played this win at all cost card.

  51. But yet you are going harder after brady because of a text from someone whose job is to handle balls by adding or removing air where he called himself deflator. Nfl u couldnt look worse

  52. Hardy was going to appeal his suspension after Brady won his appeal. Crazy. I can imagine those pictures would have been released as soon as he appealed. He was never going to win an appeal, because those pics couldn’t be destroyed.

  53. “Damage control time, Roger!!!!”

    He’s too busy dealing with more important things.

    …. like planning his deflategate appeal and avoiding Gillette Stadium at all costs.

  54. gallopinggilmore says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:33 PM
    Not the first time it has happened. It won’t be the last. Maybe we should start questioning the sport’s culture instead of demonizing individuals.

    8 17

    Yes we should start questioning the sports culture but this individual absolutely needs to be demonized.

  55. Great things happen and are given to horrible people every day. It has nothing to do with religion or race or sex. Life has ain’t fair and this tool is a perfect example of that.

  56. Disgusting. I’m a Pats fan, there’s obviously a part of me that wants to compare the outrage this has previously gotten in comparison to the stupidity of Deflategate, but I can’t even go there. I’ll never understand how any dude, let alone an NFL DL, can lay hands on a woman like that. Look, any hetero guy knows how girls can get on your last nerve, we’ve all been there. But even at my angriest (and I have rage problems) I couldn’t bring myself to hit or throw around a woman. I just don’t have any sympathy for dudes like that. This is one of the reasons I watch precious few non-Patriots games anymore, I just can’t support this. I wish I could cut it all off, but let’s face it, I’ll likely never see the Pats be this good again in my life. And I guess that’s my shortcoming, but I’m seriously at my last straw with the NFL, and I’m the last guy to rouse rabble or get all offended over something. But this is outrageous.

  57. He is a good player and they Cowboys want to win. If you don’t like it, turn off your tv and write to the league. If you’re watching him play Sunday night, quit your complaining.

  58. pillowporkers says:
    Nov 6, 2015 2:11 PM
    I hope Greg Hardy sues deadspin for slander and wins. Why else was it reported now? So we never forget what he did? We know what he did. There was 0 new information reported in that article. He served his punishment in the eyes of the law and the NFL. I think it’s time to move on. Not a Cowboys fan either.

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    Where is the slander? It is only slander if it is not true….

  59. The NFL *did* acquire these pictures as part of their investigation, and that is the reason they initially gave him a 10-game suspension.

    The appeal brought it down to 4 games because, really, under the previous player conduct policy it would have been a 2-game suspension.

    This is all pretty simple stuff. The NFL has a policy in place for things like this, and Hardy was punished based on that policy. This incident cost him 4 games and millions of dollars, not to mention whatever he paid to Nicole Holder which she has apparently gladly accepted as retribution for whatever happened that night.

    Time to move on. All this perpetuation is just making it easier for some team to sign him next year for cheap.

  60. zoellner25 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:32 PM

    Damage control time, Roger!!!!
    ————
    I’m not a big fan of Roger but, there’s not much he can do. A fine and suspension is out of the question.

    He needs to have a one on one with D. Smith. He’s as much responsible for the players as Roger.

    And since Demaurice Smith is the head of the players union, why doesn’t he get as much flack about this crap as Gooddell? Smith seems to just slide by. To a point it falls more on Smith than Goodell.

  61. POS scumbag but than again this victim has no respect for herself accepting settlement money from this POS in exchange for her silence

  62. @kd75 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:45 PM
    Pictures look bad, sure. But we have laws in place for a reason. What if she tripped down the steps drunk and just blamed him? Y’all would be ready to convict!
    He had a trial by jury and was found not guilty.

    You can’t prosecute an assault without a complaining witness.

    It is better to release 1000 guilty people then it is to convict one innocent person.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    kd75, I’m going to be polite in my response to your post….He did not have a trial because he paid off the victim. A judge found him guilty at a bench trial.
    In some jurisdictions, prosecution doesn’t need the victim to testify, but hit makes their job much harder.
    Next time, familiarize yourself with the facts and check your moral compass before you post.

  63. While I’m not in any hurry to defend Greg Hardy for his actions, I do think it’s important to keep an open mind with this situation. First question: Why do these pictures surface the day AFTER Hardy’s legal record is expunged? Coincidence? Not a chance. Second question: Where was the victim for the jury trial? Some say she was paid off. Possibly so, but our legal system allows for the accused to face their accuser and to have the opportunity to cross examine their testimony. If the victim chose to take the money and run, possibly it’s because there were aspects of that evening that she did not wish to answer for. Third question: What really happened that night? Truth is, no one will ever know except the two involved. Hardy, who did show up in court, claimed that he defended himself from HER attacks. While the bruising seems rather severe for defensive wounds, keep in mind that he is a 280 pound professional athlete and his girlfriend appears from the pictures to be about 130 pounds if that. Had he assaulted her in the manner that she claimed, where were the broken bones or more severe injuries than the bruises? That may sound callous, but Hardy could have easily killed her if he had lost control and raged on her like she suggested. Of course, this third question couldn’t be answered to the extent required by law since the plaintiff chose not to show up in court. In closing, do I think Hardy is a model citizen? No. Would I want Hardy dating my daughter? HELL no. Am I going to rush to judgement of Hardy in the circus court of public opinion. No….

  64. I can’t believe someone thinks she did that to herself. The bruises and reports from neighbors all point towards Hardy being an abusive guy. If she chose the money over justice I’m not going to judge because I didn’t take the beating. Sooner or later Hardy will end up behind bars anyway. The man has a serious anger problem.

  65. You have to love how he not only physically assaults, attempts to murder and verbally assaults but then on the phone, he attempts to frame her. What a POS! This guy doesn’t even belong on top of our ground soil, he belong probably way deeper than the 6 feet necessary by law.

  66. Simply put, Hardy is the lowest.

    When I read things like that story I almost feel ashamed to be of the same gender as Hardy. I shouldn’t though, because most men are not like that.

    Kudos to the Panthers for getting rid of him.

    Jerry? It’s your move.

  67. I think the saddest part of this is everyone is so quick to tear down Goodell for only giving him 4 games. Why are we not in an uproar that society and the law basically failed to punish this act?

  68. rwhited2, this story is not new. It is littered with quotes commonplace in domestic abuse cases. The woman was so afraid to talk to the cops, it took them almost a day to get an interview. You can’t say because he didn’t kill her then and there , that is reason to believe something doesn’t add up about her story. That’s freaking insane!!!!

  69. If the allegations are true and these pictures accurately depict the results, this is horrific. Not sure how any decent Cowboys fan can be happy this guy is wearing the gear they’ve come to love and respect.

  70. To all the fans:

    If you really have a problem with this, boycott the Cowboys and league. Notify the Cowboys and league in writing of your discontent and provide possible solutions to this problem.

    Otherwise, if you continue to what you do (watch week after week and buy tickets, apparel, etc), then nothing will change.

    Are any of you going to do any of that? Yeah, I didn’t think so. #hypocrisy

  71. KD75: No, no trial by jury. Please, use facts. They work well, much better than things made up. He was actually convicted by a judge (because they can do that in NC) and when time came for the jury trial…the victim was then paid off (speculation on my part but I’m thinking that’s the only plausible explanation) and then all was dropped and expunged.

    This is bad guy. He’s very good at what he does, and that’s the problem. He’s so good, and his team/owner are so desperate to win that they have sold their soul (nothing new for the Cowboys) to try and win this year. When sports stars stop getting enabled, then maybe there will be less of this in college/pro sports.

  72. He’s not in jail. The “victim” sold out. Take it up with her and the legal system, not the Dallas Cowboys. You people think you’re the morality police – give me a break, I’m sure you’re all holier than thou.

  73. Pure and simple, he’s a bottom feeding, low life piece of crap. He should be in jail but instead he paid hush money for this girl to disappear so he can make millions and surely do the same thing to someone else. Just sad.

  74. The lady wanted money more then Hardy going to prison. So you have two people of shady character. Hardy is also a top ten talent in his field of work in the world. He also was fired by the Panthers. For the people saying you would be fired well he was. If you are wondering how he got another job and you wouldn’t. You are not obviously a top ten talent in your field of work. If you were a doctor, surgeon,electrical engineer, actor, singer,musician, plumber, or waiter and a top ten talent in your field of work in the world you telling me you will not find a job again in that profession. Like or not charges were dropped and no longer on his record. He’s an entertainer and he entertains us.

  75. ……. and thus begins the complete implosion of the “Cowgirls”. Jerrah let a good guy, workout warrior like DeMarco Murray go, to be able to sign this garbage. It is perfectly fitting that will be the beginning of the end of this year for Jones and his “Gang”.

  76. NFL’s Modus Operandi: Go after guys you think might be involved in deflating footballs as a strawman to distract from the real issue: Lots of our players are criminals.

    Just another day in the NFL. I stopped giving these idiots money, or eyes, years ago because I was tired of feeling dirty and continuing to enable this sort of “business as usual”. Feel the same? Bite the bullet.

  77. This POS beats up a woman, goes after a coach and nothing happens to him. He and Petersen deserve the same fate as Ray Rice, total exile.
    As a woman who is a huge football fan, I’m ready to sell my PSL’s and season tickets and call it quits.

    How pathetic.

  78. As I’ve gotten older, and to my mid 30s, stuff like this bothers me more and more; probably because I’m not teen or young-adult anymore, I’m an adult with a family. At first I could brush it off when people from other teams were doing it, and still enjoy the games on Sunday/Monday/whenever. Even now, I still watch every one of my home-team’s games, but in past years I would always watch a few more during the week as well. The past couple seasons though, I’ve watched maybe 3 games that didn’t involve my team, the league and its attitude just disgust me at this point

  79. kd75 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:45 PM

    Pictures look bad, sure. But we have laws in place for a reason. What if she tripped down the steps drunk and just blamed him? Y’all would be ready to convict!

    He had a trial by jury and was found not guilty.

    You can’t prosecute an assault without a complaining witness.

    It is better to release 1000 guilty people then it is to convict one innocent person.
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    Dear ignorant twit: When you find a record of his being proven innocent by jury please let everyone else on earth know. He was convicted by a judge at a bench. By law he was granted a jury trial and in the process came to an “agreement” with the victim. She failed to show at trial so the case was dismissed. Would it interest you to know that Hardy’s slimeball agent physically held the victim down while Hardy called 911 to report that SHE had assaulted him?! Why? because the douche knew it was all over if it went the other way. Well his story fell apart like wet toilet paper and hers didn’t. I’m a Pats fan and I kinda give Goodell a small pass on this one. He tried to give him 10 games and a judge made it 4. I guess we could question why he wasn’t tossed for an entire season but as we know that too would have been overturned. IMO Jerry Jones is the complacent tool and should be called out as such.

  80. Phew! For a second there, I thought I was going to see something bad, like him being generally aware that someone let some air out of some footballs.
    #ItsAllAboutTheShieldISwear

  81. If the owners think you can help win ball games they just don’t care what the fans think. Everyone can’t wait to give the league more money each and every week. Nothing is ever going to change. The NFL is too much a fixture in the lives of American culture. Changes need to come from the league office and the owners, but they won’t,they are making way too much money.

  82. Having said that, of course I also believe Greg Hardy is a heathen and should have been held accountable for his crimes against a human being. Money and Power get your illicit transgressions exonerated and expunged from record i.e. O.J. Simpson. The saying goes that Karma is a bitch and one day Hardy will pay and possibly be someone else’s bitch.

  83. The nfl cant do anything more to him. This is the ray rice case. Almost exactly. If they tried to suspend him again for the same infraction, it would be easily overturned in court with direct precedent to the rice case

  84. @ arrogantnation..

    Agreed.but unfortunately this IS the American way..he didn’t mean it or it was a misunderstanding or “I’m sorry”. Talent trumps integrity and common sense, particularly in Goodell’s (and Jerry’s) NFL!

  85. dmurphydjm says:
    Nov 6, 2015 3:12 PM

    imagine if your opinions mattered!..now back to whatever the Patriots cheating scandal of the week is.

    —–

    the NFL is probably going to either:

    A. devise a new Patriots cheating scandal over the weekend/by Monday

    or

    B. have the reply officials in NYC really blow some calls this weekend.

    either one of these misdirections wouldn’t be a surprise

  86. @eagleswin

    Well that’s just like your opinion man.

    And mine is this regime has consistently tarnished the league and the game.

    Perhaps you could point out all the great improvements Goodell has implemented in his reign?

    Or are you of the impression that playing Devil’s Advocate portrays wisdom and tempered reasoning?

  87. Roger Goodell is probably on the floor of his office, in the fetal position, saying “Why don’t people like me?” The other owners wanted me to end the Saints and the Patriots runs and I did everything I could to appease them. Why don’t people like me? Why don’t people like me?”.

    4 games – hope you ‘re proud of yourself Douche Bag. (By ‘Douche Bag’ – I mean Goodell – Hardy is just a wild animal so this is what was expected and it won’t be the last time. The next time it happens Goodell is going to get tough and give him 5 games and take another first rounder from the NE Patriots).

  88. Its still not as bad as Adrian Peterson beating a 4 year old or Mike Vick torturing dogs to death. Peterson and Vick harmed innocent children and animals.
    Ray Rice knocked out his fiance on a drunken weekend in Atlantic City and this woman with Hardy knew EXACTLY what kind of a guy he is when she hooked up with him. The pics are horrible but you and Mrs Rice both have played a major part in what happened to you.
    Petersons many children and inmocent dogs dont.

  89. Also, the UNION needs to be held accountable here for wanting to actually uphold the part of the CBA that talks about appealing these situations for their clients.

    It’s disgusting DeMaurice Smith stands behind this, as much as Goodell.

    I thought they turned a corner blackballing Ray Rice, but Jerry Jones sold out and just couldn’t help himself, the despicable person he is.

    Goodell asked for the court records because they knew Hardy paid off the court system like everyone else, but Hardy still gets to play?

    It’s just ridiculous.

  90. As in the Ray Rice case, why do videos or photos have to emerge for people to finally be outraged? The reports of what he did were awful already. He’s not remorseful, he’s shown that he is out of control since he’s been back on numerous occasions. Despite his talent on the field I think Dallas should do the right thing and let him go. Generally people should get second chances if they can show that they deserve them, but he hasn’t changed at all.

  91. Ya know – just once I’d like to see an appeal hearing officer uphold (or increase) the punishment on something this vile!

  92. @ nhpats says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:51 PM
    I’d say with this new “evidence” that the NFL should do the right thing and suspend this guy indefinitely. ————————————————————————————–
    Would be nice – but unfortunately this is not new evidence, and he’s already been punished for the offence – the appeal officer and the Cowboys are the rotten ones here

  93. Its still not as bad as Adrian Peterson beating a 4 year old or Mike Vick torturing dogs to death. Peterson and Vick harmed innocent children and animals.
    Ray Rice knocked out his fiance on a drunken weekend in Atlantic City and this woman with Hardy knew EXACTLY what kind of a guy he is when she hooked up with him. The pics are horrible but you and Mrs Rice both have played a major part in what happened to you.
    Petersons many children and inmocent dogs dont.
    __________________________________

    What kinda dope thinks beating dogs is worse than beating women??…..and because the women “played a major part” in their becoming punching bags??

  94. Actually it is new evidence. It was sealed during trial, very unlikely Hardy gave this evidence over as he was never finally convicted. His career is over….not even Jerry can swallow this kind of PR hit.

  95. Mo’ Pro Babble says:
    –“Broad brush the league?”
    –“Now if you want to question a certain “culture” within the league we can have that conversation. But I’m guessing you won’t. I sense an agenda.”–

    I said sport, not league. I think we could take a close look at how it is coached, particularly at a young age

    Wow, what a piece of spin at the end there. So what culture would that be? What agenda?

  96. baddegg says:
    Nov 6, 2015 2:57 PM

    The Panthers record is…

    The Cowboys record is…
    ====================================
    LOL.

    The Panthers QB is…

    The Cowboys QB is…

    Thanks for the dumb comment.

  97. cobrala2 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 3:20 PM
    @eagleswin

    Well that’s just like your opinion man.

    And mine is this regime has consistently tarnished the league and the game.

    Perhaps you could point out all the great improvements Goodell has implemented in his reign?

    Or are you of the impression that playing Devil’s Advocate portrays wisdom and tempered reasoning?

    ———————————

    I asked you what you think the commissioner should’ve done differently in this situation and instead of providing insight to what the league should’ve done differently you continue to vilify them.

    It is a matter of record that Goodell tried to suspend Hardy longer but the NFLPA took them to arbitration to get the suspension reduced. Are you denying that?

    You have provided nothing of substance in your argument, instead implying you have a moral high ground and asking me to defend Goodell’s entire tenure instead, which is not what this article is about.

    If you dislike Goodell for other reasons, have at it in a different thread. This thread is about the Hardy photos and you have yet to state a single reason how you think the league handled them incorrectly.

  98. psousa1 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 3:22 PM
    Roger Goodell is probably on the floor of his office, in the fetal position, saying “Why don’t people like me?” The other owners wanted me to end the Saints and the Patriots runs and I did everything I could to appease them. Why don’t people like me? Why don’t people like me?”.

    4 games – hope you ‘re proud of yourself Douche Bag. (By ‘Douche Bag’ – I mean Goodell – Hardy is just a wild animal so this is what was expected and it won’t be the last time. The next time it happens Goodell is going to get tough and give him 5 games and take another first rounder from the NE Patriots).

    ================

    Pat’s fans need to give it up. None of the Pats fans posts are even remotely funny or original. We are all dumber from having to read this crap.

    Goodell gave him 10 … for god’s sake do some research before posting these moronic ramblings. The NFLPA took the league to arbitration and got it reduced.

    Go vent against the NFLPA for once. You might actually have a target that is responsible for the reduction to 4 games.

  99. I didn’t read many comments, but I am sure plenty defended Hardy because he is on their fantasy football team.

    Hardy shouldn’t be in the league today or ever. He will probably kill some defenseless woman some day. Like a rapist or child molester, there is no cure for men who abuse women and children. Same mindset for both types of criminal.

  100. Word on the street is Rihanna has it bad for Hardy now. Quoted as saying , “Those pics just made me …..” and “My kind of man!”
    IDK, that’s the word in the street.

  101. This story and those pictures are heart breaking. I don’t pretend to know the details, but she is most certainly a person in pain.

    There are so many people and areas where there is something wrong here that it’s tough to list, let alone prioritize. .

    What’s worse? The damage she’s doing to herself or the damage she’s allowing someone else to do?

    What’s worse? The way the Cowboys are treating him now or the way the NFL fan base has accepted his guilt-riddled stardom?

    What’s worse? A botched case held together by easily discredited testimony, or a legal system that absolves criminals when the witness disappears AFTER a conviction?

    What’s worse? The drug use or rampant sex and money game apparent in the middle of all this?

    What’s worse? Possessing illegal weapons or a COP that takes your word for them being toy guns?

    In all of this, though, what could possibly be more heart-rending or sorrowful than a woman crying out for death rather than to live in the pain they feel? That sentiment was not momentary.

    It doesn’t matter if Greg Hardy plays 1 more snap or 10 more years – her pain is still the same.

    For me, personally, I’m not going to root for or against Greg Hardy. I’m going to mourn her pain. Where the legal system and the NFL failed, we, as a society should have succeeded in loving the people that need it.

    She got money in this deal, I assume, but money does nothing for pain. Especially for a girl with a drug problem and a history of bad decision making.

  102. annapterp says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:39 PM
    Hopefully Karma comes around in the form of an ACL, PCL, MCL explosion.

    ______________________

    Really dude?

    What kind of person wishes this kind of harm on another human being.

    You’re criticizing Hardy for his actions (and rightfully so) but then wish this kind of pain on someone. You’re no better than Hardy.

    I would never wish harm on you, but Karma often goes both ways. I just hope your curse doesn’t come back on you.

  103. We all know the story of what Hardy did to that woman. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? Did you think she wouldn’t have bruises? We all know what he did and we knew what the result of what he did would look like.

    Why would seeing the pictures that you knew exactly what they would look like change your opinion on anything?

    What he did was disgusting, no doubt. He’s served his suspension. If you didn’t care if he played last week, you shouldn’t have a problem with him playing this week.

    The pictures change nothing. It just shows what we already knew. That’s what happens when a 270 man who can overpower 300 lbs offensive lineman abuses a woman. Seriously, did you expect the pictures to look any different?

  104. How ’bout ‘dem Cowboys?! After Jerry Jones picked him up, I was astonished he didn’t pick-up fellow woman beater Sidney Rice, too. Is anyone really shocked that some of these ‘Roid Ragers beat women? Wake-up, people….

  105. @eagleswin

    My sarcastic comment was Roger Goodell is a shining, flaming hot piece of crap (which he is).

    To answer your original question to me: I recall watching him lecture rookies with a “protect the shield” speech early in his tenure and was impressed and appreciative of what he was saying.

    Since then we have witnessed an escalation in the details available of the legal issues of player, coaching and ownership.

    This heightened level of public information has not garnered a commensurate level of heightened response from Goodell and his cronies IMO.

    Suspending Greg Hardy for a year is perhaps satisfactory to you or to others. Perhaps not.

    It is insufficient for me.

    Not because it is Greg Hardy.
    Not because he is a Dallas Cowboy (which only increases my personal biases against him).

    But because the NFL makes every effort to do the bare minimum when it comes to player conduct IMO.

    I saw Ross Tucker, back on the Ray Rice situation, bring up a point that I hadn’t thought of yet:

    Kick the turds out of the league and allow the next man up a spot.

    Ownership is convinced the league needs the Greg Hardy’s of the world in it to sell, Sell, SELL!!!

    Personally, I’d rather support and watch players of character.

    And Roger Goodell is not interested in pushing the psychos out of the league. Instead, the league we are all bemoaning for various reasons, has former FBI and Legal experts on the payroll of every single NFL team (ask Ross Tucker) to manipulate the justice system as much as possible.

    Why?

    To keep these turds on the field?

    Why?

    To make money.

    I don’t like that. I don’t have to like that. And you don’t have to like my opinion. But there it is.

    I won’t be answering to you further because vilifying Roger Goodell is somehow wrong to you and that quite honestly makes it quite easy to dislike you too.

    P.S. – I don’t like Roger Goodell’s turkey neck either.

  106. I was raised to never lay a hand on a woman and I think it is so week when guys do. Not a cowboys fan but I did not read anything in that article that proves without any doubt that he beat her. I think the timing of the photos being released is suspicious. From what I can tell Hardy appears to be a loser, but Holder seems like she may be drug and alcohol abusing hooker. You combine the two and this is what you get. Not always clear victim/villain. My2¢

  107. helldog33 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 4:07 PMWhat kinda dope thinks beating dogs is worse than beating women??…..and because the women “played a major part” in their becoming punching bags??

    I never said beating a dog is worse than beating a woman.
    I said Adrian Peterson beating an innocent child or Mike Vick torturing a dog to death is alot worse than what happened with Mr and Mrs Ray Rice on a drunken weekend in Atlantic City. These women chose to stay with these guys. Mrs Rice married Ray after he knocked her out in the elevator. BTW it probay wasnt the first time they got physical with each other.
    And a question for you Mr helldog 33 did you see the pics of what Adrian Peterson did to his 4yo? Do you know another son was killed a year before? Do you know that Mike Vick actually pulled out all of his favorite dogs teeth with a pliers and killed countless others? So yeah helldog33 those are some nasty looking bruises Hardy gave her.and I hope she leaves.

  108. gallopinggilmore says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:33 PM
    Not the first time it has happened. It won’t be the last. Maybe we should start questioning the sport’s culture instead of demonizing individuals.

    Yeah, because Aaron Rodgers throws punches at women too.

  109. gallopinggilmore says:
    Nov 6, 2015 1:33 PM
    “Not the first time it has happened. It won’t be the last. Maybe we should start questioning the sport’s culture instead of demonizing individuals.

    Yeah, because Aaron Rodgers throws punches at women too.”

    No, but John Elway and Pat Bowlen’s kids have gotten in trouble for domestic violence. Pretending that some people/players are immune to it is misguided and destructive.

  110. News flash here, the justice system is divided into two parts, one for the rich and one for the rest of us.

    Ok, Hardy walks away without any accountablity but that hardly gives the Cowboys a free pass. By signing him, they have basically sold their soul to the devil who is probably as second cousin to Jerry Jones to begin with.

    Karma will play its role later on and the Cowboys will still not win the Superbowl (ya, like that’s really going out on a limb) because Karma is a bitch and must be paid.

  111. Two things: Goodell has the right to hear arbitrations himself, as he did with Brady. The fact he chose to exercise that right in the DeflateGate appeal but not the Hardy appeal speaks volumes about where his priorities lie.

    Second, please don’t blame the woman for not testifying against Hardy. He very nearly killed her. She just wants to survive.

  112. I don’t condone domestic violence but the girl accepted a payoff from Hardy, the pictures mean nothing. She got paid and didn’t want to testify, case closed.

    -Panther fan

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