Cowboys didn’t have access to Hardy victim photos before signing

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So far, the Cowboys haven’t commented on the photos of Greg Hardy’s accuser, which were published for the first time this afternoon.

And there could be a reason they’re withholding comment.

According to Mark Maske of the Washington Post confirms, the photos “were not accessible to the team” before the Cowboys signed Hardy. The league said this afternoon they saw the photos, prior to commissioner Roger Goodell suspending Hardy for 10 games (which was shortened to four games by Goodell’s hand-picked hearing officer).

PFT previously reported, citing an unnamed source, that the Cowboys did not have access to the photos because they were under seal at the time.

If the Cowboys didn’t see them, that could allow them justification to stop employing Hardy. The Ravens cut Ray Rice within about eight hours of the video of him punching his wife emerging. But the Cowboys don’t seem inclined to part ways with the pass-rusher, so their strategy could just be to wait for the storm to pass and people to stop being outraged.

They knew what he did, or what he was accused of. And as in the case of Rice, the photographic evidence merely makes tangible that which anyone with the least bit of curiosity would have to know.

But nothing they’ve done throughout this process indicates that they would have cared one way or another.

182 responses to “Cowboys didn’t have access to Hardy victim photos before signing

  1. America’s Team reflect the worst part of American culture and seem to embrace it. I would bet that there are many really, really good character guys on that team, but Hardy is not one of them. Do the right thing Mr. Jones.

  2. They aren’t cutting him, their pass rush will fall apart without him. Because that’s what matters after all, not that he’s a scumbag woman beater, but that he can get to the QB.

  3. What do you expect a woman who got beat up by a football player to look like? They knew what they were getting into when they signed him. The pictures shouldn’t change anything.

  4. They knew what he did, or what he was accused of. And as in the case of Rice, the photographic evidence merely makes tangible that which anyone with the least bit of curiosity would have to know.

    But nothing they’ve done throughout this process indicates that they would have cared one way or another.

    That tells you all you need to know about the amount of character in the Cowboys organization.

  5. Why should the photo’s change anything? It was well detailed what he did to this woman. What do the Cowboys say now? Too many scumbags involved here.

  6. Hey Witten that’s your teammate. Keep protecting him. Your mother must be proud. Big domestic violence warrior. Until it effects your wallet that is.

  7. How long is it going to take for ppl to understand you are innocent before proven guilty ? If he was guilty she had a chance to show up to court and give her side of the story but she never bothered to show up. Greg hardy is 6″5 280lb if he really wanted to hurt her she would of been in a lot worst shape, Ray Lewis was originally charged with 2 counts of murder before his attorney was able to struck him a deal and now there’s a statue of him outside the M&T bank stadium in Baltimore.

  8. Should have been gone before this–everyone needs to have a visual these days. Still, with an outcry that will only grow over the coming week it will be unbearably hot in Dallas. Hardy will be sat if not outright cut by end of next week. After all, Goodell says it’s about the shield right? He’ll need a Galactic force field if the NFL doesn’t take Hardy out of the mix now.

  9. bigeasysac says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:05 PM
    What’s the point of bringing out the pictures now? Seems unfair to him at this point.

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    More unfair than an NFL D-End beating the crap out of a woman who is probably a third of his size?

  10. iberiasaint says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:05 PM
    America’s Team reflect the worst part of American culture and seem to embrace it. I would bet that there are many really, really good character guys on that team, but Hardy is not one of them. Do the right thing Mr. Jones

    Taking the field with a guy like this 3 times means your severely lacking in character. People who character do the right thing even if it hurts there career or wallet. Just saying your against something or being disgusted by it doesn’t mean you have character. It actually makes you a hypocrite and coward.

  11. If you need a video or actual photos of what physical abuse or domestic violence look like then you should refrain from writing articles or commenting on the subject because you are woefully inept and or náive

    Most of us didn’t need to see any photos. The police report, judge’s ruling and the hush money were quite enough. Combine that with the rest of his recent stupidity and it is a wonder he has any supporters at all.

  12. If it was Bill Clinton and not Greg Hardy, you people in the media would be attacking the victim, saying she is a liar, deserved it, etc.

  13. Decent thing to do: Sit him, then cut him, and admit bad judgement and save the Cowboys rep. $$$ thing to do, sit him, cut him, save some money and bad press that would cost more $$$, realizing the Cowboys at 2-5 aren’t going anywhere here anyway–cut your losses.

    Either way, Hardy’s gone.

  14. Let’s hear what the Cowboys fans are saying. Anyone out there actually defending any notion that Hardy should stay? Anyone actually agree with Jones now that Hardy’s a leader?

  15. What B.S……Jerrah Jones saw the pictures before deciding to sell his soul to the devil. Rice an Peterson were crucified over pictures and the extent of the beating that Hardy put on his girlfriend is far far worse than the pics of Rice and Peterson showed. If the NFL wants to protect their precious shield, they will do something or put pressure on Jones to cut the cowardly bastard. The experts claim they never saw the traits in Anthony Jones, Rae Carruth, A. Hernandez to commit murder……it doesn’t take an expert to see that Greg Hardy will be following in their path. Someone needs to come to their senses and kick the cowardly bastard out of the NFL.

  16. Where “All That Matters Is Winning” Road and “The Team’s Reputation Will Be Shattered” Road intersect

  17. Hey Brooks45, he was found guilty in a bench trial with real live witnesses. Only due to a weird procedural quirk in that jurisdiction was he allowed a second trial, and she took a $10M payoff not to show. Despite the pictures, there was a conviction — the world doesn’t need a conviction on appeal to know the scumbag is guilty as hell (and from statements this year clearly shows no remorse or that he even gets it). Are you a relative or something?

  18. There are 32 current NFL players with Arrests stemming from DUI, Assault, Weapons Charges, Drugs, Child abuse, Animal Abuse (2) and one player on the Bengals with 9 arrests, and I am not condoning Hardy, But look at your own team or I should say certain owners over looking past transgressions .Is NFL second chance , Its Obvious they give it up to 9 times!
    Since 2000 there have been 131 players who have been arrested. Some to include man slaughter .

  19. Ah. But we must ask ourselves “Were they more than likely generally aware” of their existence ?

    If u think Jerrah is gonna cut Hardy now after seeing how quickly he can get to the QB….then u don’t know Jerrah !

  20. They will never & in this case never applies, cut this guy. Jerry will tell everyone they are helping him with the systems they have in place as a team to educate him & help him deal with stressful moments. He** would freeze over before Jerry Jones cuts this guy.

  21. Somewhere in a posh mansion near Dallas, a rich family whose last name begins with “J” ponders their options to keep Hardy playing and not have any backlash. Within 72 hours, they will conclude what we all already know: Hardy needs to go.

  22. Hmmm. wonder how many teams are hoping Dallas will cut him, so they can sign him?? Everything was expunged, remember, and AP is tearing it up this season, to everyone’s delight! Hypocritical much??

  23. Well they have the photos now, take a nice long look Cowboy fan.
    What do you think of your locker room leader now Jerry? Would you feel comfortable letting him date your granddaughter?
    Hey Michael Irvin, if that was your daughter or sister Hardy beat the tar out of and threatened to kill would you still think he is just too good not to sign? Does his talent make that beat down OK or easy to ignore?

  24. Jerry can keep Hardy and still have a losing year but the Cowboy “legacy” will always be remembered…..not necessarily for signing Hardy but for not cutting him.

  25. Jerry Jones is way too hardheaded to cut him. His ego won’t let him do it. Those pictures should be enough right there for no team to ever pay this guy again. Sadly though, Hardy will probably be around the NFL for a long time. That is, until he kills someone.

  26. bucsorbust says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:17 PM
    Let’s hear what the Cowboys fans are saying. Anyone out there actually defending any notion that Hardy should stay? Anyone actually agree with Jones now that Hardy’s a leader?

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    I am . Jones said he was a team leader and he is.. He never said he was a role model..

  27. RE: halftimehighlights comments – Greg Hardy is a piece of trash person, but so is every other person that does this. I do however agree that the media chooses who to take the disgust out on. Bill Clinton is trash too (so is his wife) but the media would not handle the situation the same for a Bill-Clinton-type as they are for a Greg-Hardy-type. I understand Bill Clinton never even allegedly beat his wife though…

  28. Hardy is a disturbed, sick individual who needs therapy and mental psychosis treatment.
    I really wish Dallas would send him off for a few months to get help and stop “feeding” the monster w the “leader” stuff.

    BTW, imagine how he would be treated if a video came out of him actually hitting her. Can you say BUH BYE?

  29. The Panthers did the right thing by letting him go without photographs.
    Shows a big difference in class between these two teams. I guess there’s a big difference in class between most of the NFL teams and the Cowboys.
    This franchise is as disgusting as its owner / GM / Village Idiot is.

  30. Before normal people get too high and mighty over this, I urge you to read the story on Deadspin, the full report. If you can make sense of it and figure out what “really” happened, you are smarter than me. Anyone who hits a woman is a POS, no argument. But people fight, it gets physical, nothing about this story looks like a clear case of domestic abuse. Looks more like a case of two nutjobs who do not have any control over their emotions or actions. Just one happens to be a NFL player and male, the other, a woman. He clearly called 911 first to cover his ass, no doubt about that, but nothing else here is clear to me. Likely why she settled, seems that was her outcome all along.

  31. Mr. Jones: If these were pictures of your daughter, what would you demand of Greg Hardy?

    Mr. Goodell? Same question.

    Why has it already not been done?

  32. Funny how People are okay with some who RAPED a women playing QB in Pitt. Someone who tortured Animals also in Pitt, but not with this. Also some of the same people saying Ray Rice should receive a 2nd chance say Greg Hardy and the Cowboys are P.O.S….Hypocrites.

    Like some have said, photos or not you knew what was accused so don’t act so outraged now.

  33. Word on the street is Rihanna has it bad for Hardy now. Quoted as saying , “Those pics just made me …..” and “My kind of man!”
    IDK, that’s the word in the street.

  34. alan226 says:

    Not enough bad things can happen to this franchise.
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    Your team probably wanted to sign him.

  35. why should the cowboys cut him now? the NFL had the pics and they said he could come back so if the cowboys didn’t sign him another team would have

  36. It won’t pass because you judgmental, keyboard warriors who have obviously NEVER make a bad judgment call about ANYTHING in yiur lives don’t believe in second chances.

    If this was your son, brother, etc., you would all be singing a different tune! Hypocrisy at its finest.

    SMH…

  37. bucsorbust says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:24 PM

    Somewhere in a posh mansion near Dallas, a rich family whose last name begins with “J” ponders their options to keep Hardy playing and not have any backlash. Within 72 hours, they will conclude what we all already know: Hardy needs to go.
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    Why would there be any backlash now? Everyone knew the guy was a convicted woman beater when they signed him.

  38. That’s bulls**t the team didn’t have access to the photos. If a reporter can get them through a FOIA request the team can too. Omg, did they not think a police report of domestic abuse came with pictures these days?

    I’ve always had a healthy respect for the Cowboys. But that is gone now. We all want our teams to win a super bowl, but there are limits most people will not cross to achieve that goal. Seems the Cowboys have no limits. If I have the pleasure of ever seeing Hardy up close at a game you will know because the big sloppy goober that splats all over his uniform will have come from my mouth.

    Tom Brady got dragged through the mud for even the possibility of under inflated footballs. An equipment violation. But the country was up in arms with one faction ready to call him a cheater till death. Well this mofo beat the hell out of a woman. Too bad that issue isn’t as divisive as an under inflated ball.

  39. brendafortheboyz says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:24 PM

    Hmmm. wonder how many teams are hoping Dallas will cut him, so they can sign him?? Everything was expunged, remember, and AP is tearing it up this season, to everyone’s delight! Hypocritical much??
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    You don’t get it, he’s radioactive, no one will touch him anymore.

    At least you exposed yourself for being as shallow a woman as there is around.

    Congratulations.

  40. And yet all of his enablers will continue to prattle on about how he’s never been convicted (that’s factually not true).

  41. If they win this weekend and keep a slim hope of the playoffs alive they will keep him and say he has been punished enough already. If they lose they will cut him in light of this new evidence.

  42. Report: Cowboys didn’t have access to Hardy victim photos before signing
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    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Teams employ their own security and Private Investigators, but they didn’t have access to the photos.

  43. Getoffmylawn! says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:30 PM
    The Panthers did the right thing by letting him go without photographs. Shows a big difference in class between these two teams. I guess there’s a big difference in class between most of the NFL teams and the Cowboys.
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    Wrong! The Panthers are just as no-class as the Cowboys. They knew everything the Cowboys knew about Hardy. And they played him in the season opener last year. It was only when Ray Rice got a load of heat they sat him, and paid him for a year.

  44. They won’t cut him. He’s too good of a player. They have done nothing but make excuses for his behavior since he walked through the door.

    Like it or not, this is today’s NFL. Rice got cut because he was past his prime and not worth the PR headache.

    I repeat: Rice was cut because he wasn’t good enough at playing football anymore. That’s it. If Rice was in his prime, he is probably still playing in the NFL.

    That’s how it works. If you can play, a team will find a way to justify it. Cowboys fans, if you disagree with Hardy playing, don’t show up on Sundays, picket the ticket booth, etc. Sponsors, if you disagree, cancel your checks and make very public reasons for cancelling your partnership with The Cowboys organization. If neither of those things happen, Hardy will play. The Cowboys will just simply buy a bigger rug and keep sweeping.

  45. They knew what he had been convicted of in a bench trial, with enough evidence to convince the judge of his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and that he is only not in prison because he likely settled with the victim.

    If the only part that was not public was the photographic evidence, that does not excuse his continued employment and Jerry Jones’s continued defense of Hardy’s sexist comments and sideline fights, going so far as to refer to him as one of the ‘real leaders’.

  46. I saw the pictures, read the story and felt sick to my stomach. Like many of you the first thing that I thought was “Jerry has no choice but to cut him now”. But I’m wrong about that. You know why? Because Goodell only thought that suspension, not banishment was enough of a consequence. I don’t agree, just reminding everyone of that fact and I think the CBA was a factor in that decision.

    You know deserves our outrage? The arbitrator who reduced the suspension, because reading between the lines, that person saw these photos too.

    Where was that individual’s moral compass?

  47. Jarred Allen 2 Arrest DUI
    Johnathan Babineaux Drugs and animal abuse\
    Kahlif Barnes Reckless Driving DUI
    Ahmed Bradshaw Drugs Probation violation

    Kenny Britt Theft, Drugs Dui and reckless driving
    Eric Dumervil Assault/Battery(2) Guns/ Weapons
    Nick Farley DUI. Drugs
    Everson Griffen Assault/Battery, Alcohol
    Vincent Jackson Arrests 3 DUI(2) License violation
    Sebastian Janikowski Assault/ Battery, Alcohol, DUI , Drugs
    Adam Jones 9 Arrests , Assault/ Battery (3) Gun/Weapons(2) Drugs (2) Alcohol(2) Disorderly Conduct
    Marshawn Lynch DUI, Guns/Weapons, Drugs, Reckless Driving
    Brandon Marshal 4 Arrests, Domestic violence(2) DUI, Disorderly Conduct
    Rey Maualuga Assault/ Battery, DUI
    Rolando Mclain DC, Assault / Battery, Guns/Weapons
    Von Miller License Violation
    William Mooore Domestic Violence, Traffic/ License violation
    Adrian Peterson Resisting Arrest, Child Abuse
    Matt Prater (2) DUI fleeing scene
    Jerome Simpson Drugs (2) DUI
    Aldon Smith (5) DUI 3, DC, Guns/weapons, Drugs
    Aqib Talib Guns/Weapons, Assault/ Battery
    Donte Whitner DC, Harrasment
    Chales Woodson Alcohol, DUI
    Mike Vick Animal Abuse, Trespassing
    ok cry me a river, but these are players WHO HAVE been convicted. lets hear you defend your player

  48. Disgraceful. Disrespectful. Their cheerleaders should protest and not show up at the next home game. Smh….

  49. BS

    But now that they do what’s their response?

    What’s Goodell going to do about this with an owner who backed him in FrameGate?

    Nothing.

    If Hardy beat a dog fans and Goodell would serve up his head on a platter.

    But it’s just a woman so don’t expect any protests. Sad to say Goodell and the owners care more about dogs than women

    Time for new owners and a new Commissioner

  50. mtunit says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:37 PM
    bucsorbust, would you let Greg Hardy be the coach/leader for your daughter’s sports team? If he helped the team do better..?
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    No, first, the guy can’t be trusted to not hurt someone else. He should be locked up. Second, I’m can find a bunch of guys out there who can coach/lead the team without putting them in danger and making it hard for me to look at myself in the mirror for keeping him.

  51. Why do you have to have pictures in the first place? They knew what he did by the reports and charges… why do we have to have pictures to make it more heinous or to be more disgusted? This jerk doesn’t even have remorse!!!!!! I hope he gets what’s coming to him someday.

  52. Goodell just announced these photos were lost into the same black hole that devoured the elevator video. He’s hired the top quantum physicists and formed a task force to look into it. He said give him a call back in the year 3000 to get a full report.

  53. No joke here: How would you like to be anybody close to Hardy about now? When a night of clubbing where nothing bad happened ends in a woman getting beaten to a pulp can you imagine what he must be like right now after all this?

    “I trimmed the crust off the toast just like he liked but after crushing my facial plate he let me know I’d actually trimmed off just a bit too much.”

  54. Jarred Allen 2 Arrest DUI
    Johnathan Babineaux Drugs and animal abuse\
    Kahlif Barnes Reckless Driving DUI
    Ahmed Bradshaw Drugs Probation violation

    Kenny Britt Theft, Drugs Dui and reckless driving
    Eric Dumervil Assault/Battery(2) Guns/ Weapons
    Nick Farley DUI. Drugs
    Everson Griffen Assault/Battery, Alcohol
    Vincent Jackson Arrests 3 DUI(2) License violation
    Sebastian Janikowski Assault/ Battery, Alcohol, DUI , Drugs
    Adam Jones 9 Arrests , Assault/ Battery (3) Gun/Weapons(2) Drugs (2) Alcohol(2) Disorderly Conduct
    Marshawn Lynch DUI, Guns/Weapons, Drugs, Reckless Driving
    Brandon Marshal 4 Arrests, Domestic violence(2) DUI, Disorderly Conduct
    Rey Maualuga Assault/ Battery, DUI
    Rolando Mclain DC, Assault / Battery, Guns/Weapons
    Von Miller License Violation
    William Mooore Domestic Violence, Traffic/ License violation
    Adrian Peterson Resisting Arrest, Child Abuse
    Matt Prater (2) DUI fleeing scene
    Jerome Simpson Drugs (2) DUI
    Aldon Smith (5) DUI 3, DC, Guns/weapons, Drugs
    Aqib Talib Guns/Weapons, Assault/ Battery
    Donte Whitner DC, Harrasment
    Chales Woodson Alcohol, DUI
    Mike Vick Animal Abuse, Trespassing
    ok cry me a river, but these are players WHO HAVE been convicted. lets hear you defend your player
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    So you are saying these are all equal to or worse than the domestic violence photos released today? Man, you need some help!

  55. Jarred Allen 2 Arrest DUI
    Johnathan Babineaux Drugs and animal abuse
    Kahlif Barnes Reckless Driving DUI
    Ahmed Bradshaw Drugs Probation violation
    Kenny Britt Theft, Drugs Dui and reckless driving
    Eric Dumervil Assault/Battery(2) Guns/ Weapons
    Nick Farley DUI. Drugs
    Everson Griffen Assault/Battery, Alcohol
    Vincent Jackson Arrests 3 DUI(2) License violation
    Sebastian Janikowski Assault/ Battery, Alcohol, DUI , Drugs
    Adam Jones 9 Arrests , Assault/ Battery (3) Gun/Weapons(2) Drugs (2) Alcohol(2) Disorderly Conduct
    Marshawn Lynch DUI, Guns/Weapons, Drugs, Reckless Driving
    Brandon Marshal 4 Arrests, Domestic violence(2) DUI, Disorderly Conduct
    Rey Maualuga Assault/ Battery, DUI
    Rolando Mclain DC, Assault / Battery, Guns/Weapons
    Von Miller License Violation
    William Mooore Domestic Violence, Traffic/ License violation
    Adrian Peterson Resisting Arrest, Child Abuse
    Matt Prater (2) DUI fleeing scene
    Jerome Simpson Drugs (2) DUI
    Aldon Smith (5) DUI 3, DC, Guns/weapons, Drugs
    Aqib Talib Guns/Weapons, Assault/ Battery
    Donte Whitner DC, Harrasment
    Chales Woodson Alcohol, DUI
    Mike Vick Animal Abuse, Trespassing
    So lets here for the guy on your team. Bengals, Broncos, Vikings, Jets, Atlanta, Baltimore, ..ect ect..So you think Cowboys are only team with someone who is low as dirt. Bet some of you own Jerseys of these players listed..way to go!

  56. If the source is from either the Cowboys front office or the NFL office I don’t believe them.

    Cowboys would lie to get the heat off in a second and as we all know the NFL offices, from Goodell to Vincent to Kensil to Pash and Nash to Blandino they lie all the time.

    Where’s Mortensen or King to shovel the NFL’s sh!t? They do it so well.

  57. The Cowboys didn’t have access to the pics because they didn’t WANT access!

    Hardy’s been “punished”, so the CBA will block additional penalties, but there should be a V-E-R-Y short leash on him, but let’s face it, Jerry gives his *leaders* more benefit of the doubt.

    SMDH

  58. why is Robin Roberts not doing an overly publicized interview with the woman Hardy beat? It would be much more poignant than than the one with that loser CC Sabathia

  59. (1) Greg Hardy

    (2) La’el Collins

    (3) Randy Gregory

    (4) Joseph Randle

    (5) Dez

    (6) Josh Brent

    (7) Jay Ratliff

    (8) Rolando McClain

    Look the Cowboys are willing to roll the dice on guys who may blow up. Why? It’s simple Jerry isn’t a choir boy and has had his fair share of problems so he probably sees these guys as misunderstood just how he sees himself.

    Hardy though is probably a bad risk I wouldn’t be shocked if this guy kills someone one day.

  60. Would it have mattered if the Cowboys would have seen the pictures beforehand?
    I mean, we all saw the sickening pictures of how Adrian Peterson tortured his 4 year old.
    Not only did the Vikings retain his services, but they guaranteed him more money.

    Talent trumps moral value, as sad as it is.
    And even when the pictures are paraded before our faces, some NFL owners, as well as their fans, just don’t seem to care.

  61. babygaga19 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:56 PM

    So you are saying these are all equal to or worse than the domestic violence photos released today? Man, you need some help!
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    Did i say it was worse? Maybe you didnt read them all, there other players with child abuse, domestic abuse who are playing as well. Maybe you should re read and tell me how those other players with domestic abuse, child abuse and animal abuse are still playing?

  62. Doesn’t matter, the DA, Judge, NFLPA knew about it and decided to let him walk. He is legally cleared by the law. Everyone knew that he did something to that lady OR she could inflicted that on her own and blamed it on Hardy. You and I weren’t there at the scene. Jerry should sign him to an extension just to tick everyone off. How Bout Dem Cowboys B.i.a.t.ch ..

  63. mmack66 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:39 PM

    Why would there be any backlash now? Everyone knew the guy was a convicted woman beater when they signed him.
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    I am thinking that is exactly what deliberations the Cowboys are trying to figure out in wondering if they keep him. You are right, they all knew about Hardy. But with Ray Rice, they all knew the same thing, and that the girl was back with Rice/married even, and asked Goodell to drop it. Here, the girl didn’t show up to trial. Some say she’s afraid to, others say there was a settlement. Again, it’s the power of the visual that will spur the public outrage. This is no longer about the girl in the NFL’s eye, it’s about what he did and what the Cowboys did in the face of seeing how bad it was and what it does to public image of the NFL. As you can see, the outrage is renewed, like with Ray Rice’s case.

  64. bigeasysac says:
    What’s the point of bringing out the pictures now? Seems unfair to him at this point.
    ___________________

    The dirt bag couldn’t be satisfied with gaming the system by buying the victim off and getting back in the league he had to literally add insult to injury by getting the record expunged. He deserves far worse than something you perceive as ‘unfair’

  65. Nah, man. “He’s a leader.” If the Cowboys didn’t have access to the photos, it’s because THEY DIDN’T WANT ACCESS TO THE PHOTOS.

  66. Here is the chilling part:

    From Hardy’s perspective:

    He beat this woman and threatened to kill her. Had his “manager” help him cover that up.

    Found Guilty by a judge, then bought her off, thereby found innocent.

    Suspended 10 games by the NFL, arbitrator brought it down to 4.

    Owner trots his own daughter out to attest to his character to justify signing.

    When given the chance to show remorse, he shows none.

    Plays well, owner talks about long term contract.

    Record expunged, he was never a bad guy after all, and no record of him doing anything wrong.

    Truly chilling…

  67. “I just hope Jerry doesn’t put Hardy in the Cowboys Ring of Honor Sunday night on national tv.”
    ………………………………………………………………………………..

    I for one won’t be watching that POS franchise even if they do.

  68. Hardy’s a jerk, but people need to stop acting like these pics are akin to crime scene photos of the Manson murders.

  69. It is never OK for a man to beat a woman ( or even another man), unless there are circumstances such as self-defense that come into play.

    With that said, I don’t know why NOW the pictures come out, after Hardy was found not guilty from a jury trial, and when both the woman in question AND the prosecution could have both come after him legally afterwards. Neither party pursued it, and why, especially with photos existing?

    With Ray Rice, it was indisputable video evidence showing him doing what he did. There was no doubt.
    With Hardy, the woman involved refused to testify, and the prosecution decided to drop the case due to lack of evidence. The two cases are different, because with Hardy, it is her word against his, even with photos NOW available, well over a year after the fact.

    Now if a video existed showing Hardy doing what he did like Rice’s video (Florio is STILL doing what he can to fabricate the Dez bryant unicorn video), then that is a different story.

    I am not saying Hardy didn’t do it, but Hardy was found not guilty in a jury trial, had teh woman AND the prosecution BOTH decide not to further pursue the case, had the charges recently expunged from his record, and NOW the pictures come out? The timing is just WAY too strange.

  70. That’s insane. How do the photos make any difference.

    This is from May 2014:

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    The arrest warrants accuse the Panther lineman of throwing girlfriend Nicole Holder to the floor and into a bathtub, slamming her against a Futon and “strangling” during an argument at his home.

    According to Holder, she was thrown on to a couch covered “in assault weapons and/or shotguns.” At that point, Hardy allegedly bragged that the assault weapons were loaded, and threatened to shoot Holder if she “went to the media or reported his assaults to anyone.” She alleged that Hardy has 25-30 firearms: “AK-47s, automatic-looking weapons, shotguns, rifles and pistols.”

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    So he was accused of throwing her against a bathtub, strangling her and throwing her on to a bed of loaded steel weapons. Isn’t it reasonable to assume that if a 6’5″ 280 lb person did that to a woman, she would be very injured!

    He’s not sorry for what he did, and he comes out with the “guns blazing” comment and making comments about Brady’s wife. He obviously has no remorse.

    No photos of the incident should have been needed to convince people of the severity of what he did.

    The Cowboys knew exactly what he was when they signed him he has continued to act the same way. They are condoning a guy like this being in the league because he is talented.

  71. I honestly would even care what happened to me afterward, but if anyone ever did this to my daughter I would tie him up and saw off his hands.

  72. Adrian Peterson still playing for the Vikings. Aldon Smith playing for the Raiders. No headline news there????? Only America’s Team can generate this much talking points. Case was expunded, end of story.

  73. Look, I don’t think the Cowboys should have signed Hardy so I’m definitely not defending them or him, but I don’t understand why having the photos would have made a difference. Everyone knew what he did to that woman based on information that has been public for a long time. Why do you need to see pictures to know that is bad? It’s the same thing with the Ray Rice thing. Everyone lost their minds when the video came out, even though everyone knew he knocked his fiancé out in the elevator. What did people think that would look like? The biggest problem I have with this story isn’t that the Cowboys didn’t get the photos, or didn’t try to get them, but that there is a presumption that they needed to have them in order to determine beating on his girlfriend was wrong.

  74. Can’t imagine it would’ve made a difference if had access to the pictures or not. No chance Jerry cuts this piece of pond-scum with the NFC East up for grabs.

    Just like with the Ravens….does anyone really NEED a picture or video to understand what beating up a woman looks like??

  75. “The Panthers did the right thing by letting him go without photographs.”

    The Panthers are also 7 – 0.

    We have two great NFL stories in the Patriots and the Panthers, both of whom are unbeaten going into week 9. One team did the right thing by letting Hardy, a star player go. The other team had a QB that wouldn’t let Roger Goodell railroad him off the field.

    Wouldn’t it be great to see both play each other in the super bowl and go into that game undefeated? Jones and Goodell would be in a panic.

  76. @patsfan says:

    “Here is the chilling part:
    From Hardy’s perspective: He beat this woman and threatened to kill her. Had his “manager” help him cover that up. Found Guilty by a judge, then bought her off, thereby found innocent. Suspended 10 games by the NFL, arbitrator brought it down to 4. Owner trots his own daughter out to attest to his character to justify signing.
    When given the chance to show remorse, he shows none.
    Plays well, owner talks about long term contract. Record expunged, he was never a bad guy after all, and no record of him doing anything wrong. Truly chilling…”

    All of this from a fan of a team whose Coach and players were found cheating in a myriad of ways, and on more than one occasion.

    Regardless, Hardy was found not guilty in the second trial, and neither the woman involved NOR the prosecution chose to pursue legal action, which they could have without any restrictions.

    What is “chilling” for me regarding your post is the ridiculous amount of hypocrisy, ESPECIALLY with a player named AARON HERNANDEZ. Did you conveniently forget that name, Einstein?

    Don’t come on here acting like every player on your team is a “golden boy”, because we ALL know the NFL is made up of a spectrum of players from street trash to upstanding citizen. ALL teams have had their share of arrests when it comes to players. Some teams illegally video-tape other teams, or under-inflate balls in playoff games to get whatever advantage they can. Other teams sign players with legal histories because in the end, it is ALL ABOUT WINNING.

  77. @cowboysfansince75

    Quite a list. All of it fact. No disputes.
    Just glad Oakland has zero tolerance for domestic battery & abuse and passed on Hardy. While he may be talented, he’s a timebomb owned by an enabler.

  78. This is so hypocritical. Photos get released and now everyone wants to get high and mighty. There’s nothing new to this story. The facts remain the same. If you’re going to go on an all courts press to shame any team or the Cowboys you should have been doing it all along. Not 2 years after the fact. Let the media circus commence and give more fodder to the people who already think the NFL is a step away from prison.

  79. The situation was already bad enough as it stood. Take these photos and put them alongside the narrative of the initial police report. After now having the opportunity to do that, in full view of the public, as opposed to being able to feign ignorance, Jerry Jones has a decision to make. If Jerry Jones does not outright release Greg Hardy now, Jerry Jones should be BANNED from the NFL. Period.

  80. cowboyfansince75 says:
    Nov 6, 2015 5:58 PM
    So you think Cowboys are only team with someone who is low as dirt. Bet some of you own Jerseys of these players listed..way to go!

    ====

    WOW! Great point! Your team is just as morally bankrupt and disgusting as some other teams in the league!

    Can’t argue with that “logic”.

  81. Where are the pictures of Adrian Peterson’s son? Are there none or are they stored away since Jerry wound up not trading for him never to be seen again until he somehow winds up in Dallas? Truth is, and we all know it, if Hardy had wound up anywhere besides Dallas this wouldn’t be worth talking about anymore to most of y’all including the media. If you’re gonna constantly criticize one player for his mistake(s)then criticize em all otherwise you’re making yourself look just as pathetic as the one you’re criticizing. If you’re gonna bash Jerry Jones for not releasing Hardy then bash the Vikings for straight up saying they wouldn’t release Peterson. Taking a strong stance against an abusive act and voicing your outrage and opinion to make yourself holier than thou means nothing if you’re gonna pick and choose which case of abuse you’re wanting to bring up. Seems to me Hardy’s crime to a lot of you was joining Dallas not assaulting a woman.

  82. “jsrdc says: it is ALL ABOUT WINNING.”

    . . . and the Cowboys are not very good at winning, are they, sir?

  83. Would you be fired from your job if you committed the same crime? No? So why should he be? Stop acting like he committed murder or something. He made a mistake and paid for it. The typical sentence for domestic violence is 24 months probation. He paid $10 mil, I think I paid the price a lot more than anybody else would in the same situation.

  84. Regardless, Hardy was found not guilty in the second trial, and neither the woman involved NOR the prosecution chose to pursue legal action, which they could have without any restrictions.
    ————————————————————————–
    Ah, no he wasn’t found not guilty. The charges were dismissed because the girl was too afraid to testify. That’s a big difference.

    A woman just got sentenced to 3 years in prison for beating another woman. Hardy not only shouldn’t be playing in the NFL, he should be in prison.

    If you think otherwise you’re an idiot. That’s what’s alarming.

  85. lukedunphysscienceproject says:

    WOW! Great point! Your team is just as morally bankrupt and disgusting as some other teams in the league!
    Can’t argue with that “logic”.
    ____________________________________ and your logic is that others with similar crime or worse can play!
    Cant argue with your “logic”

  86. @nfceastfan and where exactly should Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger and Adrian Peterson be? Or are we not bringing up those situations because none of them played in a certain city on a certain team please tell me cause with all this crucifying of Hardy but leaving others out I’m confused as to what the Internet police consider to be wrong and right anymore.

  87. Complete and total BS that the league had the photos but Jones didn’t see them. So Jones’ complete investigation into Hardy’s history and character didn’t involve asking the NFL front office if they had anything? You have got to be kidding me with this crap.

  88. Just win baby

    Or as the late, great Hunter S. Thompson said

    “There is always room on TV for a man who can beat people to jelly in 9 flat.” – Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

  89. Great NFl, let’s all wear pink and support women, until of course a good player beats one up. Then well, forgive and forget. I’d like to see a real man settle it with him.

  90. I don’t understand why Cowboy fans are trying to rationalize this situation.
    Seriously, you’re as bad as Viking fans.

    Just call it out, own it. Accept it for what it is.
    But to just stick your head in the sand and sell out your morals and integrity is pathetic and embarrassing.

  91. “BTW, imagine how he would be treated if a video came out of him actually hitting her. Can you say BUH BYE?”

    Actually, no. Steve Biscotti took one look at that video and said he had to go. Now the Ravens have more dead cap money than anyone and you are seeing it on the field.
    The Vikings wouldn’t just release AD, so they ended up keeping him and now look to be headed for the play-offs.
    Jerry already knows all this. He signed the guy knowing that he was a cancer in the Carolina locker room as well as a women-abuser. He has no soul (as he has previously demonstrated numerous times).
    How can anybody with a conscience continue to support this team/organization?

  92. @cboys4life2014
    >> Truth is, and we all know it, if Hardy had wound up anywhere besides Dallas this wouldn’t be worth talking about anymore to most of y’all including the media.

    Tell that to Ray Rice. Or Mike Vick’s 2 years in prison.

  93. “…and he raped her and killed her and built a cage with her bones…
    Excitable boy they all said…
    Well, he’s just an excitable boy.”

    -Warren Zevon talking about the NFL

  94. If the Cowboys release him I hope we pick him up. Belichick knows how to deal with troubled players. Our D will be super scary.

  95. People knew he already did this. Yes the photos are bad but why is everyone ooooing and awwwing all of a sudden? People seem to forget about the Adrian Peterson situation. Sorry but I think that’s worse than this.

  96. They knew…. They definitely knew. And if they didn’t, shame on them even more. They absolutely would have talked to Hardy about all of this before signing him so he either lied or downplayed the whole thing and they either didn’t do their own checking or just believed him. In either case, they’re complicit in essentially sweeping it under the rug. Meanwhile, the league doesn’t let players advocate for good causes like breast cancer awareness and anti domestic violence causes on the field but the Cowboys can tout Hardy as a “passionate leader”. Nonsense. Get him out of the league.

  97. @ktrimbach and how often did you hear the eagles criticized for signing Vick when he came back into the league? You didn’t and the fact that he served 2 years in prison for dog fighting while Hardy served no jail time for his assault of a woman speaks more about our justice system then it does about my comment so I’m not quite sure what you want me to do about that. My point was simply that other players (Roethlisberger, Ray Lewis, Adrian Peterson) also committed heinous acts (rape twice, murder, child abuse) and are put on a pedestal whereas any cowboy player who so much as smokes a joint is ripped in the media and labeled a risk and out of control.

  98. some of the comments are disheartening. besides what Hardy did, there have been cover-ups all over the place. particularly disturbing are the comments along the lines of “what is the big deal”?

    and just for the record, Hardy was most definitely never found “innocent”. the case was dismissed when the victim did not show up.

    Hardy was found guilty in a trial before a judge. Because of some weird law in NC, Hardy was able to ask for a trial by jury after the fact.

    Panthers had no intention of cutting him. it was only after public outcry they did.

    The NFL sucks. People in real life don’t het second chances. The personal conduct policy needs to be written to allow NFL to expel players when they are arrested, If they are found not guilty, they can seek reinstatement. there can be NO grey area.

    What is the NFL teaching kids?

  99. Are you a relative or something?
    ——————————-
    Not a relative, just a typical Cowboy fan. And most of them will probably say the fact that there are so many negative comments on here is just further proof that everyone else is jealous of the Cowboys. To them, this just proves that they truly are America’s Team!! Yee-haw!!

  100. NFL too busy accusing a Super Bowl winning QB of “being generally aware of air escaping footballs” to fully investigate this.

    I swear, as God is my witness, if the NFL had pics of anyone related to the Patriots adjusting a football’s air pressure, those pictures would have been all over the internet as soon as they were available.

    Does anyone have any doubt that Brady and the Patriots can win without adjusting football pressure below the standard?

    Does anyone have any doubt that Greg Hardy inflicted great pain upon this woman?

    And which issue really matters? Just asking.

  101. To quote black mass, “if nobody didn’t see it, it never happened.” Jerra believes emphatically

  102. but they would suspend a player for deflated balls. so beat up a women and get four games off with pay.

  103. Jsrdc: seems you forgot the Pats released Hernandez immediately , then had a trade in @ the pro shop for any fan that had his jersey.
    Science proves there was no tampering, guess you missed the article on this site last week saying if the balls had air removed the PSI levels would have been 10!! Which they weren’t!!
    Seems you don’t understand spygate was simply filming from the wrong area, in front of 60, 000 fans. The same thing the Jests did the week before without penalty.
    Seems there’s lots you are clueless about!!!!!

  104. 6’5″, 280lb cats who average almost a sack a game don’t grow on trees. They will not cut him. They will use this as leverage to extend his contract at below market value. Jerry will play the 2nd chance card…and if they advance in the playoffs, no one in Dallas will care. If you are looking for your NFL team to take the moral high ground, that usually only happens once your skills decline to the point where you are of no use to the Team or the immediate moral outcry leaves the Team no choice. BTW, if he was cut, some team would give him his 3rd chance before he could pack his locker at Valley Ranch.

  105. Hardy was found not guilty like it or not. As we all know the justice system is not perfect. If in fact Hardy did harm this women he should be punished. However in this instance whether you like it or not he was found not guilty.
    Let’s review some of the pertinent facts. Hardy and this woman had a
    fairly confrontational relationship. Apparently within weeks of this
    incident they were in a bar she was high on Coke and alcohol …he decided he would leave…..she got mad….and chased out after him…pulling her car behind his and getting out to repeatedly kick
    his door. Once security arrived he was able to leave.
    In the case that gives rise to the charges …the victim apparently gave
    a few statements …probably on nite of incident and subsequently at
    an investigative meeting. A hearing was held …the victim testified as did Hardy. The lower court Judge ruled against Hardy. Many of these cases are appealed.
    Apparently in many of the appealed cases where the victim refuses to testify..the DA will stil,proceed with the case to the higher court . In

    70 percent of the appeal cases the DA will use the prior teatimony
    of the victim at the appeal hearing. In 30 percent the DA will not proceed since the victim will not testify. Often the DA will not use the
    victims prior testimony because she or he gave inconsistent testimony
    in their testimony and/ or statements …apparently that was the decison in
    this case….the victim apparently was inconsistent in her version of the facts which differs in the three versions she offered. In other words she was not credible.
    It is also important to point out that the victim could have testified
    and still sought damages in a civil suit. I can only assume either she or
    he lawyers decided it was best to take the money and not testify.
    So no matter how the fans and or press present the issue…Hardy is not
    guilty. Despite this fact he lost a year of football ….yes he was paid ..
    but it is my understanding he lost money or a chance at bonuses.
    He was also suspended for 4 games this year and fined.
    The victim has apparently moved on. Hardy should be afforded the same rights. He paid his fines and suspensions. He has the right to move on especially in light he was found not guilty.
    I realize the above is not the most acceptable facts….but …the victim
    agreed.
    Of Hardy should,ever repeat …if the proper evidence is presented ..he should be suspended for life.

  106. @bstnboy what is the NFL teaching kids? I don’t know about you but when it comes to teaching my kids morals and accountability I don’t count on anybody outside myself for that. And what is the media and people like you teaching kids? Cause all I’ve learned as a grown man with stuff like this is if you play anywhere outside Dallas you can rape, kill and abuse or beat whoever you want and basically do whatever you want and it’s ok.

  107. In preparation for his first trial, in which he was convicted, these photos would have been provided to the defense per the State Discovery rules. Now the question is did Hardy share them with the Cowboys? While the pics may have been under seal for his appeal, they were not for his first trial.

  108. This guy is a scumbag. For a guy this size or for that matter any size to lay a hand on a woman is a low life good for nothing piece of sh*t. He doesn’t belong in the NFL or this Society for that matter. Any man that lays a hand one a woman for any reason is a little boy that doesn’t deserve the air that they breathe

  109. And yet Goodell’s all out assault on Tom Brady continues with the full intention of destroying his 15 year career……over .2 psi which has been clearly linked to weather, bad gauges and science.

    The league under Goodell has gone stark raving mad.

  110. Goodell wants to destroy a man’s legacy, his way to earn a living over 0.2 psi that has been clearly proven to be linked to bad gauges and weather.

    And yet others in the league are allowed to beat another human being senseless, a criminal activity of the lowest form, and “we are giving them a second chance”

    When Goodell speaks to the integrity of the game I think of a lying sack of animal dung….nothing more, nothing less.

  111. I’ll just leave this here

    “Desert loving in your eyes all the way
    If I listened to your lies would you say
    I’m a man without conviction
    I’m a man who doesn’t know
    How to sell a contradiction
    You come and go
    You come and go

    Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon
    You come and go
    You come and go
    Loving would be easy if your colors were like my dream…”

  112. It’s a bald-faced lie. If the NFL had access, the Cowboys had access.

    They didn’t WANT to see the photos.

  113. Hardy’s gabage, but don’t drag Ben Roethlisberger into this disscusion, he was never charged with anything and has more charector than the whole Dallas team.

    But as Jerry Jones said…..Hardy’s a team leader!

  114. Why is Bill Clinton even mentioned in this disscusion? He never beat any woman, he had consensual sex with an adult female…..lied about it to cover his @ss but did nothing illegal.

    Sleazy, yes, but Bill Clinton isn’t Greg Hardy. Why do some people have to drag politics into everything?

  115. This guy manhandles grown mountain men and thats the only bruises on her? He must have timy hands. Im sorry man, i followed this broad and whereever she goes theres trouble and law suits

  116. @ tigerlilac says:

    “jsrdc says: it is ALL ABOUT WINNING.”

    . . . and the Cowboys are not very good at winning, are they, sir?

    OBVIOUSLY without their starting QB in Romo, Dez, Dunbar, Scandrick, & McClain at DT, it is much harder to win games. All of these players were lost due to injury, and where the replacement players aren’t getting it done, especially at QB. ONE player won’t change that, but the more players of Hardy’s skillset, the better. NO TEAM can expect to win with this amount of starters out due to injury.

    Romo will be back, and Dez should continue to get back in playing shape, and we will THEN see how the rest of the year goes.

    Dallas needed a pass rusher with strong skills. Hardy was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers. In addition, the woman involved in the case AND the prosecution both decided to not pursue the case after the jury findings, even though they both COULD have pursued it. Dallas moved forward with signing Hardy, and close to two years later, the photos are surfacing NOW?

  117. bct2004 says:
    Nov 7, 2015 10:37 AM

    Yet somehow the Patriots are more hated than the Cowboys! Talk about miss placed anger.

    An America’s team poll was conducted. Your team placed dead last. You folks just can’t figure that one out can you?

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