NFL will review Joyner’s hit on Bridgewater

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An elbow to the head from Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner knocked Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater out of Sunday’s game. Per the NFL, the hit will be reviewed on Monday, as part of the league’s standard procedure for reviewing plays for potential discipline.

Although it looked like a dirty play, Joyner insisted after the game that he did not mean to hurt Bridgewater.

“I know that guy,” Joyner told reporters after the game. “I grew up across the railroad tracks from him. My mom knows his mom. My dad knows him mom.  I would never intentionally do a dirty play like that on Teddy Bridgewater. It was a bam-bam play. . . . I did not know he was gonna slide. When I launched, he slid, and we connected. If I could take it back, personally, I will take it back. Because I’m not a dirty player. And I wouldn’t want to take joy from his mom or from his team. So was it [done] intentionally? Not at all. So I can’t fix the problem with what’s going on, how they feel. But how I feel inside, it’s not good.”

He’ll feel even worse if/when he receives a letter from the league informing him of a five-figure fine arising from the hit. Whether Joyner meant it or not, it was an illegal hit — and it’s the kind of illegal hit that typically draws a flag.

90 responses to “NFL will review Joyner’s hit on Bridgewater

  1. “”When I launched, he slid, and we connected. If I could take it back, personally, I will take it back.”””

    The nice part of replay and game film is to catch you lying… If he wasn’t going to slide you were going to take him out at his knees???

  2. Looks like the NFL should look into Aquib Talib’s finger in the eye moment against the Colts too.

  3. Bridgewater went into his slide a little late. It sure didn’t take much to knock him out cold, did it? I mean, I saw little yellow birds circling his helmet.

  4. Matt Ryan has taken hits exactly like this against the Saints the last 2 or 3 years … without as much as a penalty being called. NFL won’t do jack.

  5. To us it’s clear he started his launch after the slide although it was very close. Close enough where it wasn’t that obvious to him without seeing the tape.

    Bash Gregg Williams all you guys want because its warranted but I don’t think it’s fair to call the guy a liar. Joyner has not been a dirty player and its safe to say I don’t think he’s happy that happened.

  6. Better review Talibs eye poke as well, should have been ejected. Broncos played as dirty as any team I’ve ever seen. Cheap late hits all day long on QB & defenseless receivers many times over and refs turn a blind eye. What’s that integrity thing that Goodell keeps talking about?

  7. “Matt Ryan has taken hits exactly like this against the Saints the last 2 or 3 years … without as much as a penalty being called. NFL won’t do jack”

    The same Matt Ryan that just got bonged by a back-up QB Gabbert, playing for the worst team in the NFL?

    That Matt Ryan?… and then why should we care?

  8. While they are at it, can they please review Talib intentionally poking a Colts player in the eye and TJ Ward intentionally going for Luck’s knees, just like he did to Gronk a couple of years ago while he was with Cleveland.

  9. If you stand both players next to each other …then pick the one who is an actual professional.

    You’re just a football player Joyner. TEDDY is a professional football player.

  10. Love all the keyboard warriors on here “What do you expect from a Jeff Fisher/Gregg Williams team?”. Maybe you guys can go watch Golf instead, a sport where no one gets hurt. It’s a physical game, and if you don’t like it go watch HSN on Sundays instead.

  11. Yeah,
    Yeah,
    Yeah,

    I know the commisioner, all the gm’s in the NFL and all the coaches in the league! What a bunch of crap!

    You take care of your actions and you did what you were told!

    All of this is non sense!

    Fine the team 100k and suspend DC coordinator Williams and this bum 2 games!

    If the NFL wants to keep the game safe, lay the law down and other teams will watch what they do instead of this bunch of crap!

  12. It was a dirty hit. But Bridgewater is a qb (like others in the league) that will occasionally put moves on defenders who are slowing down expecting him to slide….so…..all is fair in love and war? A QB can decide to slide in a split second. And defenders are expected to go from 100 mph to zero in that split second….it’s a little unfair.

    But this was a dirty hit. Just had to get that rant off my chest.

  13. gojags says:
    Nov 8, 2015 7:31 PM
    what do you expect from a Jeff Fisher/Greg Williams coached team?
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    What do you expect from sheep who are buying into the click bait of people talking about Zimmer and Gregg Williams, as if that had anything to do with a split second occurrence.

  14. Bridgewater went into his slide a little late. It sure didn’t take much to knock him out cold, did it? I mean, I saw little yellow birds circling his helmet

    I’m guessing he’s stronger than you, so don’t cast stones.

  15. I don’t think Joyner was intentionally trying to hurt Teddy, but he should certainly know that it is illegal to hit a sliding quarterback in the head like that. I think he was coached to do it that way.

  16. .
    Luckily no one took a wild swinging miss at another player or they might have been ejected.
    .

  17. So how many games will Talib get suspended for?

    My guess is zero, coincidentally the same number as the league’s rating of competency.

    So when game ball’s are maybe .5 below PSI then there needs to be 5 million dollar investigations and the case needs to go to the supreme court based purely on speculation in the name of integrity, but when there’s photo evidence of Greg Hardy’s domestic abuse then he deserves a reduction of his suspension?

    Does anybody else see whats wrong with this?

  18. Think Talib would have pulled that stunt with the Patriots?

    I’m glad he’s no longer with the Patriots. Total db move, and I don’t mean defensive back.

  19. yyc2phx says:
    Nov 8, 2015 7:33 PM
    “”When I launched, he slid, and we connected. If I could take it back, personally, I will take it back.”””

    The nice part of replay and game film is to catch you lying… If he wasn’t going to slide you were going to take him out at his knees???
    ___________

    You’re allowed to hit runners in the legs.

  20. Michael David Smith: “Lance Corporal Harold Dawson and Private Louden Downey were good people who liked Private William Santiago. But, they followed orders. Lamarcus Joyner just did what he was ordered to do. Isn’t that right Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams?”

    Gregg Williams: “Son, we live in a world that has concussions, and those concussions have to be caused by men with helmets. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Mike Florio? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Bridgewater and you curse the NFL. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know, that Bridgewater’s concussion, while tragic, probably saved the NFL. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves The NFL! You don’t want the truth, because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me instructing my players to concuss opponents. You need me instructing my players to concuss opponents. We use words like “Kill the head and the body will die”, “before you get off the pile, affect the head”, “I got the first one”. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent trying to concuss opponents. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who watches the concussions that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide them! I would rather you just said “thank you”, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a helmet, and spear someone in the head while they’re down. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to!”

  21. I think it was in the 18-1 season, Belichick let his team put 50 up on the scoreboard against Fisher as pay back for his team’s dirty play.

    Fisher also made some comments about Spygate that might have induced Bill to embarrass him as well.

  22. usdcoyotesfan says:
    Nov 8, 2015 5:07 PM
    I sure hope Bridgewater’s injury is serious. After all, you Viking fans were overjoyed when Rodgers went down with a broken collarbone, so we Packer fans allowed to be happy about Bridgewater’s injury.
    —–
    It’s unfortunate this guy is a fan of any team, let alone the packers.

  23. Great Caesar’s Ghost says:
    Nov 8, 2015 7:46 PM

    There’s nothing to review. It’s football.
    ————————————————
    ……until that’s princess Rodgers getting hit in the head?

  24. Yes you can take players out at the knees but thats typically for bruising RBs that DBs will do that to because they can’t match their size and strength…not the case with Teddy how has a pretty thin frame. Bottom line he threw his elbow towards his head…it was a dirty hit. I think the Talib one was much worse however…thats just pure busch league.

  25. You do have to wonder if its safer for QBs to slide or just take a guy on head on…atleast when they are head on they can attempt to protect themselves…sliding…you are at the mercy of the defense and some defenses will take advantage of that…15 yards for your starting QB? Sure thing…we’ll take it. Everyone knows what Gregg Williams is about…nothing will ever change that.

  26. No way is that a dirty hit, the defender already committed to the tackle when the runner slid, and Joyner didn’t have time to react. You people do realize how fast this game moves, right?

  27. “I know that guy,” Joyner told reporters after the game. “I grew up across the railroad tracks from him. My mom knows his mom. My dad knows him mom. I would never intentionally do a dirty play like that on Teddy Bridgewater. It was a bam-bam play. . . . I did not know he was gonna slide. When I launched, he slid, and we connected. If I could take it back, personally, I will take it back. Because I’m not a dirty player. And I wouldn’t want to take joy from his mom or from his team. So was it [done] intentionally? Not at all. So I can’t fix the problem with what’s going on, how they feel. But how I feel inside, it’s not good.”

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    So why then did you lower your elbow into him?????

  28. Fine the guy and move on, but keep in mind the reason Zim was ticked and blew off Fischer is for more reasons than that hit. Zim said his piece rather than the usual cliche-ridden politically correct crap and likely has moved on too. We won. That’s good enough.

  29. Great game.

    I do not believe that Joyner intentionally tried to hurt Bridgewater. I agree it was a penalty and even with a fine, but I don’t believe there was an intent to injure. Was it the impact of the hit, which looked glancing, or Bridgewater’s head bouncing off the turf that caused the injury?

    The real investigation needs to be at a previous non-call where the defender dove into Bridgewater’s legs late. It was not flagged, but was the play that got the Viking’s blood boiling given their past experience with Greg Williams.

  30. Just saw the video. Didnt look that bad to me. Defenders can’t stop in mid-air. Besides, he felt good enough to go out for dinner,but not good enough to finish the game? #nowarrior

  31. Joyner went at Bridgewater’s head, first with his elbow and then with his shoulder. It was clearly intentional and it is no coincidence that the dirty and aweful Greg Williams is Joyner’s defensive coordinator.

    I don’t think any Viking fan wished any player to have a serious injury, just not how we are. I’ve been to games there and I can’t recall any shootings, stabbings or assaults, Ever.

  32. Kingpel hit it on the head, the earlier low hit is the reasoning behind Zimmer being so upset, as he should be. I hear all the chatter on fast game blah blah blah but you’re saying he was planning on trying to take that same shot on his knee? To me either way dirty play, dirty team and dirty city.

  33. Gregg Williams best defensive call of the day: Running off the field immediately after the game and hiding in the locker room.

  34. k1joyce says:
    Nov 8, 2015 7:49 PM
    Love all the keyboard warriors on here “What do you expect from a Jeff Fisher/Gregg Williams team?”. Maybe you guys can go watch Golf instead, a sport where no one gets hurt. It’s a physical game, and if you don’t like it go watch HSN on Sundays instead.
    —————————-

    Speaking primarily as a football player myself, but also an individual who makes his living within the golf world I can speak with utmost confidence that you sir, have an even elementary concept of either.

    Next.

  35. He didn’t know Teddy was going to slide? Judging by the fact he slid well before Joyner through his elbow into Teddys head, I call BS.

  36. Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    Nov 8, 2015 9:30 PM

    Just saw the video. Didnt look that bad to me. Defenders can’t stop in mid-air. Besides, he felt good enough to go out for dinner,but not good enough to finish the game? #nowarrior
    ===========================

    Curious, Carl. Would having a little hissy-fit and throwing an electronic device on the ground, because it was showing him his own mistake, make him more of a “warrior”???

  37. I told my coach that I know his mom and he said, I said take him out anyway you can your playing for me and not his mom.

    — I really do not know how this D coach was allowed to come back into the NFL

  38. This is Jeff Fisher’s 21st year as an NFL head coach, and he’s had 6 winning seasons. I understand the Rooney Rule, but what’s the Fisher Rule?

  39. We all know Viking fans would be elated if this happened to Rodgers. Just look at their posts from when he got hurt in 2013.

  40. sdcoyotesfan says:
    Nov 8, 2015 5:07 PM
    I sure hope Bridgewater’s injury is serious. After all, you Viking fans were overjoyed when Rodgers went down with a broken collarbone, so we Packer fans allowed to be happy about Bridgewater’s injury.
    ———
    I wouldn’t say anyone was happy about Rodgers injury. Looking for the advantage when the best player is out? Yes. Happy about an injury? No.

  41. 13worldchampioinships says:
    Nov 8, 2015 10:35 PM

    I wouldn’t say anyone was happy about Rodgers injury. Looking for the advantage when the best player is out? Yes. Happy about an injury? No.

    ——————

    Yes and the Vikings took so much advantage in that game they were abe to tie GB instead of losing outrigt.

  42. There’s nothing to review, the hit was 100% clean. It’s football, people are going to get hit. This is more proof Goodell is a Vikings fan & would do anything to protect the players on his favorite team.

  43. Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    Nov 8, 2015 9:30 PM

    Just saw the video. Didnt look that bad to me. Defenders can’t stop in mid-air. Besides, he felt good enough to go out for dinner,but not good enough to finish the game? #nowarrior
    *****************************

    This has got to be just about the dumbest thing any Packer fan has said so far regarding Bridgewater not going back into the game.

    Learn the rules – learn the concussion protocol! Because he was concussed, he was not allowed to go back into the game. This was not the Vikings decision, this was not Bridgewater’s decision.

    Huge difference between going back into a football game and going out to dinner. Of course, those that live in GB wouldn’t know that. Going out to dinner for them is cheese curds and a bottle of Bud!

    We were all better off when the Packer fans were hiding in shame realizing the Vikings were alone in first place in the division!

  44. Ya he collided with the guy but if you watch the film he committed to the hit before teddy decided, oh its time to slide. Hey these qb are getting there cake and eating it too. Run then if you know your going to get hit go into aspire and hope for big penalty too.

  45. @usdcoyotesguy – my gosh man, you’ve sunk to a new low. We are all pretty bummed about the PACK loss earlier today, but lashing out on a Vikings article and wishing harm on another player? Cmon we are better than that. You’re not a real PACK fan. GO PACK.

  46. tjacks7 says:
    Nov 8, 2015 7:46 PM
    Luckily if the Vikings can get past the Raiders they’ll have a bye week vs the Packers in 2 weeks.

    /////////////////
    And Vikings nation moans in unison “nooooooooooooo!” In a scramble golf tourney 2 weeks ago we were 2 under after 2 when an inexperienced foursome mate said “We could be 18 under today” and we two golfers in the group said “Man, you just pissed off the golf gods!” We played the next 16 holes 1 under and finished 4 strokes back.

    Good win for the Vikes today and the Pack stunk it up until it was too late. I’ll take the next game first before I look ahead to MN.

  47. GB Chokers… Imploding on the sidelines, pointing fingers at each other, getting their asses handed to them..

    Vikes winning again, in first place….

    The world is a better place.

  48. Hope Teddy’s OK. Most Packer fans want to see your best shot in two weeks. Of course, we’ll still be rooting for da Raiders next week.

  49. When qbs run this is what they open themselves up for
    No intent here
    Move on
    No crying in football

  50. Teddy is well into his feet first slide before the tackler decides to go low and get a hit on him.

  51. This is the NFL so it doesn’t really matter what happens, what matters is who it happens to. There are plays in every game every week that aren’t called unless the player involved is one of the marquis-type players being protected by the league. Heck, it’s well documented that there are even rules in placed specifically designed to protect those players.

    Think “tuck” rule.

  52. I believe Joyner when he says he wasn’t trying to hit Bridgewater late. But he’s being dishonest with himself when he says he wasn’t trying to hurt the guy. When your goal is to knock the other guy out, your goal is to hurt him. And Williams may teach his players to push the envelope, i.e., play an extra second longer than their opponents, but he doesn’t have them doing anything that the rest of the league’s defensive players don’t do, too.

    This is the league’s larger problem. It’s a cultural problem. Defensive players never talk about tackling. They talk about hitting. DBs launch themselves as a matter of course. How many times have we seen a safety fail to wrap up because he lowered his shoulder and his head to deliver what he hoped would be a knock-out shot? Football is physical but the men who play it professionally (and collegiately, and increasingly at the high school level) think of it as a combat sport. Until they learn to think differently about what they do, the game’s future is going to be in doubt.

  53. I thought the late hit below the knee was more the more egregious hit of the 2. The 2nd one happened to be the one that injured Teddy. I have not seen a replay that clearly shows when the defender launched…..so I’m open to changing my mind about that.

    Either way, defender is going to be fined for the 2nd hit. #1- he hit the QB in his slide & #2- he hit the QB in the head. 2 No-no’s wrapped in 1 hit.

    Sorry, but that is what today’s NFL is about. Any team would be irate if this happened to their starting QB. But, I’m sure Zimmer will use it to fire up the troops.

  54. his shoulder didn’t hit him in the head, his elbow barely connected with his facemask which sent his head directly into the ground

    just a quick bang bang play that absolutely was a penalty but IMO shouldn’t be fined.

  55. Typical Greg Williams defense move…you didn’t know he was gonna slide…good one…because quarterbacks typically try to take as much punishment as possible right?? Get out your checkbook punk!!

  56. packer fans are officially insane if they thought that hit was legal. the shot of bridgewater stone cold out for a few seconds is bone chilling.

  57. I think he could have pulled up and avoided the situation all together, but I do not think he meant to intentionally hurt Bridgewater. There are some occasions where the QB actually does not slide and fights for the extra few yards. We are getting to a point in football where the defensive back has to just stop and not even tackle the quarterback. It’s tougher on the defenders now and the QB has the clear advantage to gain more yards. It’s ironic, because if Bridgewater just ran at Joyner full speed (that’s why he has pads on too) and took a normal hit, he would be perfectly fine, but since football is so soft now, it causes too much confusion. I bet Favre, Young, and Aikman would love to have played today since the NFL is so soft.

  58. Its pretty simple. If you beleive he launched himself before Teddy started to slide…he was making a full launch at Teddy’s knees, like the DL the previous series. OR, he luanched after the slide and targeted Teddy’s head. Either way, its the same. DIRTY PLAY. I like to believe that Williams would not be dumb enough to press his players to take out a teams QB…but I guess when the pressure gets high enough for a win…you do what you know how to do.

  59. What Aquib Talib and Von Miller did yesterday was way more egregious and intentional than Joyner’s. But the NFL always turns a blind eye when it’s the Broncos. Both of those players should be suspended.

  60. Why do people think it is dirty to hit a runner’s knees. It is one thing to go low on a defenseless quarterback in the pocket, but a runner with the football can get hit in the knees. Why the hell do you think players wear knee pads. What has this sport came to? If you are cornerback and are tackling a runner that is a lot bigger than you it is pretty damn stupid to tackle them high. That’s how you get trucked. And you sure as hell can’t hit them in the helmet (hence this article), so tell me where a cornerback is supposed to tackle a runner. This has became a joke and is ruining the sport.

  61. Dear Vikings fans:
    Cardinals fan here. Welcome to the NFC West! Our division comes complete with teams (1)with no talent but a strategy to injure your team (Rams) and (2) continually use PED’s to keep them peppy in the 4th quarter (Seahawks). You got a taste of (1) yesterday. To see a good example of (2) refer to Marshawn Lynch puking his guts out on the sidelines and then entering the game moments later and running wild (but, oh yeah, it was the “flu.”)

  62. That hit would have been illegal on a WR, RB or TE… so it’s not about “QB’s being special”. A deliberate forearm to the head on a player that is on the ground is a cheap shot, and deserves an ejection… just like throwing a punch at someone or stepping on someones nuts.

    Also, let’s not forget that a couple of plays earlier, a Ram went after Bridgewater below the knees, well after he threw the ball… no flag.

    A big fine and a 1 or 2 game suspension seems entirely appropriate for anyone who engages in head-hunting like that.

  63. If you want to read a ridiculous article about this hit, just go to espn and read Matt Bowen’s article in the Vikings Clubhouse. One commentator here said that it’s common for Teddy to make moves on his running plays to get extra yards. I don’t agree. I don’t think Teddy is that aggressive of a runner. VISNOVSKY had one of the best posts on PFT I’ve seen. Well done! I have watched the replays of the hit and I’m pretty certain that there was intent to injure. Maybe Joyner wasn’t trying to knock Teddy out of the game, I don’t know. He doesn’t have a ‘Suh-type’ history. But the Rams have now knocked 3 starting QB’s out of the game in the first half of the season. Something’s going on in St. Louis and history is pointing to intent.

  64. It didn’t look like he was hit very hard. He put his hand on the ground to slide. Maybe if his hand was larger he could’ve stopped sooner.

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