Mathieu: We have to go through Seahawks to get where we want

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Over the summer, Cardinals safety Tyrann Mathieu was asked which NFC team he thought the Cardinals had to beat to be “legitimate contenders” in the NFC.

He said the Seahawks, which wasn’t much of a surprise given their two-year reign as the NFC’s last team standing. The Seahawks are 4-4 heading into this weekend’s game against the Cardinals, but their up-and-down first half of the season hasn’t done anything to change Mathieu’s feeling about the conference.

“Those guys are kind of in our way,” Mathieu said, via the Associated Press. “We want to go somewhere, and we have to go through those guys.”

Mathieu believes that the Cardinals should be the more confident team based on their 6-2 record, although no one will be giving the Cardinals much of an edge in the NFC West if they can’t win in Seattle on Sunday night. That would leave them a game up on Seattle with the Rams, who beat the Cardinals already, potentially in the same position as Arizona embarks on a schedule that’s much tougher on paper than the one they faced in the first half.

They play the Bengals in Week 11 and then close with the Rams, Vikings, Eagles, Packers and a Seahawks rematch after a Week 12 date with the 49ers. With that slate, beating the Seahawks won’t guarantee the Cardinals anything but a loss will make it more difficult to buy into their chances of staying on top of the division all the way to the wire.

46 responses to “Mathieu: We have to go through Seahawks to get where we want

  1. Must win for Seattle, not for Arizona. Seattle has the same “crappy wins” as the Cards except the barely beat the 0-6 Weeden/Cassel Cowboys.

  2. or Carolina.
    a panthers or cardinals vs bengals super bowl would be awesome.

    but we all know the league wants rodgers vs brady/manning. for an ‘epic’ 52-49 game. yawn.

  3. 54-9

    Yes….because Drew Stanton and Ryan Lindley are going to play on Sunday.

    The last time Carson Palmer played in Seattle, the amount of tears from Seattle fans actually exceeded their normal yearly rainfall.

  4. “The last time Carson Palmer played in Seattle, the amount of tears from Seattle fans actually exceeded their normal yearly rainfall.”

    Palmer threw 4 picks in that game, so he didn’t really win the game for them. Also the Hawks basically had homefield wrapped up and went on to win the SB while AZ missed the playoffs, so I think Seattle fans were just fine.

  5. Arizona has the better record.
    Seattle rarely loses on its home field and they are the defending champs.
    Arizona has a great offense.
    Seattle has a great defense.

    If Seattle loses, they aren’t going to the playoffs. If Arizona loses, it’s going to be tough for them to make the playoffs because they have a very difficult schedule ahead of them.

    It should be a great game.

  6. This is the same defense that Marshawn Lynch broke in half for 79 yards on Beast Quake 2.0?

    “Red Sea Defense”, ha. I remember Patrick Peterson was a defeated, empty husk of a man.

  7. Do Seattle fans still think this years team could even compete with the 2013 or 2014 versions of the Seahawks ???

    This team isn’t 1/4 as talented…

    It’s a qb injury away from 5-11

  8. “Red Sea Defense” haha love it. Hawks set a franchise record 596 yards of offense that day.

  9. In Stl we are torn. Support our former team against the hated Hawks, or hope they lose with the faint hope the Rams can compete for the West title or a WC. Personally, I hate/love both teams. Tough call.

  10. 4-4 and half the wins were only because the refs were morons.

    They should be 2-6.

    Nevertheless, whatever Seattle fans want to believe, this team is different from previous teams, and all that reminiscing from previous years means squat for Sunday night.

    Cards need to win this game like any other, and if they do, Seattle’s season would be on the brink… even with two gift wins.

  11. Cakesw, this years hawks team has just as much talent and is close to becoming the team that everyone remembers. Saying they have 1/4 of the talent is assinine. Who did they lose? Unger? He missed more games than he played anyway and didnt even play against AZ in either game last year.

  12. Don’t count the Rams out just yet. Home games with Chicago,Detroit, Tampa Bay and road games at Baltimore and San Fran.All winnable games IMO.

  13. Looking forward to this one. It’s a must win for the Hawks, being at home. If they lose and drop 3 games back, I just don’t see them making it up in the remaining 7. The pressure’s on, should be a great atmosphere!

  14. Good game indeed. Let’s go AZ!!

    At least the Cardinals can handle themselves with some degree of class…

    And truthfully, no one outside of Seattle really likes the Seahawks egomaniac “all about me all the time” players.

  15. Football is a game of match ups and Seattle’s secondary matches up well against Arizona passing game. The Cards have an offense that relies on the deep shot and Pete Carrol’s defense main competent is to not give up the big play. Other than a few communication breakdowns when Kam came back Seattle is still number 2 passing defense and number 2 scoring defense in NFL while sitting 4-4.

    This weekend I don’t see it being close but the final game of the year will be epic with everything on the line.

  16. Funny seeing Seattle fans thinking their team is still good. They haven’t beaten a single good team. My 49ers included. My god, we’re terrible! And to make matters worse, they’ve come within inches of being 2-6. Man, Malcolm Butler really did a number on the Seahawks huh?

  17. SUPER fast WR Paul Richardson is coming back for this game. Pair him up on the other side with Tyler Lockett and their is NO WAY the Cards can cover BOTH those guys. And Jimmy Graham…..

  18. Funny how many people are so willing to pretend Seattle is “so close to being 2-6”. The Hawks are just as close to being 6-2.

    Seattle is 4-4 and everyone is counting them out. Seattle plays it’s best football when people think they are done. It’s only mid-season. Folks pretending to know how the season will end up might as well put your prognostications on the same shelf as PFTs pre-season Superbowl picks.

  19. Look….

    The Seahawks vaunted defense collapsed in two of their losses….completely collapsed. Would that have happened in 2013 ???

    No way….it wouldn’t have.

    But I’m glad they could flex their muscle against Matt Casell, Colin Kaepernick and Jimmy Claussen…

    Their other win was a game against Matthew Stafford and the worst team in the league, and it took a miracle, and a referee afraid to throw a flag to win….

    This team isn’t as good as previous teams by a long shot

    Russell Wilson IS the Seattle Seahawks…..

  20. Talk is cheap on both sides. I guess we will see on Sunday evening. I think my ‘Hawks will dominate in a surprisingly one-sided affair.

    But we shall see.

  21. therealbirdgang says:
    Nov 11, 2015 6:05 PM
    All that money in the sea secondary and they only have 3 picks all year!

    _______________________________

    And yet they’re #2 in YPG and #2 in PPG defense.
    Imagine that…..

  22. cakesw says:
    Nov 11, 2015 5:18 PM
    54-9

    Yes….because Drew Stanton and Ryan Lindley are going to play on Sunday.

    The last time Carson Palmer played in Seattle, the amount of tears from Seattle fans actually exceeded their normal yearly rainfall.

    -_____________________________________

    Don’t think Drew Stanton or Ryan Lindley were responsible for 596 yds total offense or 35 points put on the Cards in their house last December. Russell Wilson threw for 339 yds, too.

  23. Seattle Defense is still really good.

    but that offense is really bad, not only that its been consistently bad this year.

    RW still has no wins when the defense give up the league average in points.

    Seattle will not have a home game in the playoffs or possibly miss the playoffs completely.

    The wild cards will be Atlanta and Minnesota.

    Superbowl curse baby!

  24. Carson Palmer did help last time the cardinals played in Seattle and won. He did throw 4 picks but he threw the td to floyd to win the game. At the end of the day, that’s the play that won. You can’t just throw that out.

  25. The seahawks will win Sunday and I’m 100% sure of it. The cards are a Good team not great, while the hawks are a good team not average just look at their record and how they’ve lost the games.

    The cards will be amped out of their mind but I have a strange calmness about the hawks. I fully expect them to go on a bigtime run this upcoming half of the year.

    31-14 hawks win easily. Cards a good team just don’t see them coming into this buzz saw.

  26. Must admit this game is full of intrigue.

    If you’re a cards fan you point out terrible Hawks line, terrible red zone, defense losing leads and records.

    If you’re a Hawks fan you point to fourth ate leads in every game, terrible record of cards opponents, possibly improving OLine, and better health and fact that Chandler and Thomas didn’t play preseason (and chandler games into season).will be interesting.

  27. jmc8888 says:
    Nov 11, 2015 5:48 PM
    4-4 and half the wins were only because the refs were morons.
    ——————–
    One could argue that half the loses were only because the refs were morons, too.

  28. I’m curious why there’s such over-inflated confidence from Seahawks fans. We all know you had a few good seasons. Now…into the present day. What about THIS season makes you feel so confident? It’s clear to everyone except Seattle homers that this is not the same team as the last few years. Same players (for the most part) but not the same team. What gives?

  29. Over under on refs giving Seattle a gift call that assures them of the win? 10 – 1. 9 – 2. Guesses

  30. And yet they’re #2 in YPG and #2 in PPG defense.
    Imagine that…

    _________________________________

    And yet they should be 3–5 imagine that….

  31. Stats are pretty cheap….it’s not like Seattles defense has played a murderes row of offenses…

    The best offenses they’ve faced in terms of yards….were the Bengals at number 9, and the Panthers at number 15 ( and they promptly let both of those teams score on them at will when the game was on the line )

    The rest of their schedule included the Rams (without Todd Gurley) and still the worst statistical offense in the league… San Francisco, Detroit, Green Bay (shockingly) , Chicago and Dallas….all which are bottom 10 offenses in the NFL….and two of them played with with backup Qbs….

    This isn’t like the 1985 Bears when they dominated everybody…

    Given there schedule……quite a few teams would be high on the total defense list.

  32. If the Cardinals win on Sunday night, I expect all the Hawks trolls to be hiding out like usual anytime they talk a bunch leading up to a game, only to lose again.

    HOW AWESOME WAS THAT SB FINISH HAWKS TROLLS? NEVER FORGET!

  33. isaidjoemontegna says:
    Nov 11, 2015 8:16 PM
    I’m curious why there’s such over-inflated confidence from Seahawks fans. We all know you had a few good seasons. Now…into the present day. What about THIS season makes you feel so confident? It’s clear to everyone except Seattle homers that this is not the same team as the last few years. Same players (for the most part) but not the same team. What gives?

    ________________________________________________________
    What gives? If you sincerely want to know, here is what gives us confidence:

    A shaky beginning and yet we still have the #2 defense in the NFL.
    Chancellor was gone for 2 of the losses, and he’s back.
    The offensive line is starting to jell.
    Wilson and Graham have started connecting.
    The rushing offense is #3 in the NFL.
    Three of the four losses came to undefeated teams.
    We went 9-1 last year after starting 3-3. This seems very, very similar.
    We have the best return man in the NFL.

    That’s what gives.

  34. therealbirdgang says:Nov 11, 2015 6:05 PM

    All that money in the sea secondary and they only have 3 picks all year!
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    Seattle may only have a few picks this year, but they are second in overall defense, and second against the pass. They seahawks only give up 186 yards passing per game. In this day and age, that is elite whether or not you’re getting picks to go along with it.

  35. Theashleyguy

    Yet I keep seeing huge leads completely blown and an offense struggling to convert. Im also seeing only 13 points put up on terrible teams like the Lions and Cowboys when they should be dominating. We’re apparently not watching the same games. Stats don’t mean everything. If we’re talking about fantasy points, then the Seahawks D is killing it.

  36. “schmitty2 says:
    Nov 11, 2015 5:51 PM
    Don’t count the Rams out just yet. ”

    It’s hard to lose a game when your DC gets the QBs knocked out.

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