NFL may wait until March to decide which team moves to L.A.

AP

As the owners of the Rams, Raiders and Chargers all consider a move to Los Angeles, the owners of the NFL’s other 29 teams are taking their time about deciding which franchise or franchises they will permit to move.

Jets owner Woody Johnson said today that a decision on which team will move to Los Angeles may not come until March.

That’s going to put all three teams in an awkward position. Under ordinary circumstances, teams ask season ticket holders to renew their tickets for 2016 before the 2015 season ends. But why would any fan in St. Louis, Oakland or San Diego agree to buy season tickets for 2016 when they don’t even know if their team is going to be in town in 2016?

Moving an NFL franchise to a new city will be a huge logistical challenge for that team, and for the entire league. You’d think the league would want to spend the entire offseason getting its new Los Angeles team ready. Instead, the league may take the first few months of 2016 to make up its mind about Los Angeles.

72 responses to “NFL may wait until March to decide which team moves to L.A.

  1. In about three years, it’ll be a remorseful one. Good luck trying to get some poor city to take you back, morons.

  2. Even if SD stays who would want to renew the mess of a team? Leave it to the NFL to be without a team in LA for 20 years and then try to get that fan base to buy into not one, not two, but possibly three teams? Fans in St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland have every right to not invest another nickel on these teams even if they stay another year.

  3. Headline in February: NFL trying to convince Kroenke to move his team back to St Louis. Says moving team in middle of the night unfair.

  4. Stalling using LA as a bargaining chip again. Who woulda thought. These owners are so transparent how does not a rich guy get involved
    . Oh Carson project has a new player. It is a small world.

  5. Just bring the major guys from each team to NY and Miami and let them race to LA cannonball run style. First two teams to get there get to stay there for a few years until the novelty wears off

  6. This isn’t going as smooth as Goodell thought it would. Everything this man does now is turning into a disaster. Not only is there no shovel in the ground for a new LA stadium, but there is no agreement on where a team will temporarily play until there is a new stadium. Are they going to start playing preseason games in August on less than 5 months notice? My bet is there’ll be no team in LA in 2016.

  7. Funny so how many uninformed “fans” seem to “know” la was a failure for 2 teams. Truth was both owners had issues with local municipalities getting stadiums and left. Attendance and fandom was not an issue

  8. Probably Richardson’s fault. Since he’s heading the committee and everything else has been.

  9. This whole process is starting look like a dog and pony show all about fleecing as much public money in each teams home market as possible. Every time they punt the ball on voting to return, the notion gains less credibility.

  10. So the rumor is that the relocation fee will be 1B dollars. Let’s assume both the chargers and raiders come up w that kind off $$ (not worried about the Rams, they have it!) and all of a sudden the plan falls apart and both the chargers and raiders have to stay in SD and OAK. SO now they will come to the tax payers and ask that we pay for their stadium……. Seems to me they put themselves in a no win situation. I for sure as hell won’t vote on tax payers paying for a stadium when they found a way to come up w a relocation fee without tax payers $$

  11. The Rams just as the Dodgers still do were always near the top when it came to attendance.. The Rams leaving had nothing to do with the fans not caring..

  12. purplengold says:
    Nov 11, 2015 7:32 PM
    If LA cared about pro football the Rams would still be there.
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    I’m not buying that. The Patriots almost moved for the same reason the Rams moved. They didn’t have a real NFL stadium, had crappy ownership, and were horrible for years. Parcells and Kraft turned the franchise around. They used to say Boston was a Red Sox town. Things change quickly with a good product. The NFL is also much different now too.

  13. “Jets owner Woody Johnson said today …”

    Let’s not lose site of this moment – an NFL owner actually went on the record.

  14. The Rams just as the Dodgers still do were always near the top when it came to attendance.. The Rams leaving had nothing to do with the fans not caring..

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    This is a lie!

    If the Rams sold out why would they leave LA in the first place?

    The Dodgers have absolutely nothing to do with the NFL and Dodgers fans can’t even watch the local Dodgers games if they have comcast, because no attends their games.

  15. Let’s keep pushing LA, London, 18 game regular season. Let’s fix the NFL! Idiots!! 10 years from now the NFL will not be like we know it and we’ll all have found different activities to enjoy in our free time.

  16. There’s 2 things the NFL considers before making any major decision.
    1. How much money will it make?
    2. How can we help the Patriots with this decision?

  17. Typo:

    It was actually 48 years in LA to 20 years in St Louis*

    Stan Kroenke is doing the right thing. Who wouldn’t want to move their team from the 58th largest city in the USA to the 2nd largest city in the USA? Especially while fair weather “Rams fans” would rather stay at home in the Missouri suburbs than drive into the city for games. It’s hard to feel bad for a fanbase that abandoned it’s team less than 20 years after winning a Super bowl.

  18. What confuses me is that all we hear about is how streaming NFL games are the wave of the future. So theoretically an NFL team can be global like most teams pretty much are now. I see team jerseys from around the NFL any given weekend around town so what is the big fuss about the 2nd largest media market about? Does basic tv ratings even matter anymore.

  19. Los Angeles is an absolutely HUGE Market….

    The previous teams, Rams and the Raiders we loved and had great attendance from the fans.. The problem was the stadiums. The Colosseum and the Rose Bowl are literally 100 years old. Playing at Angeles stadium was simply leverage until a new stadium deal was put together. That’s why the teams left town. They couldn’t get a new stadium deal way back in the 90’s. Nobody wanted to pay for a billionaire’s house with the city’s money, same as today.

    USC plays in the Colosseum and its a run down dilapidated place. I was recently there and broken windows were covered with weathered old plywood, truly shameful.

    When a deal is reached and a stadium is built, fans will support the team. The issue is the NFL itself has missed out on a gigantic market and should see that the relocation of whatever team is completed and stop talking about England and other ridiculous locations and complete the deal in LA.

    Rozell and Tagliabue would have completed this offering long ago. It may take a new commissioner to see a team in the 2nd largest market in the nation. There is no shortage of teams that are interested in relocating, just a shortage of commitment to complete the deal.

    Its been foolish for all of these years not to have a team in LA. Nothing is more important to the NFL than seeing this through to the end.

    Come on, Man!

  20. Wow. 58th largest city! Where did you come up with that figure? As I recall Stl is a top 20 market. More bad info from LA trolls. “There are no bad NFL cities, just bad owners”.

  21. University of Phoenix Stadium cost $455m to build. It’s been called one of the 10 best sports venues in the world. Has been rated as best playing surface in the NFL by players. By all accounts it’s a state of the art facility. Ticket prices are in the lower half of the league, NO PSL fees, free reserved parking. Well, in 2015 dollars, it now apparently costs a minimum of $1b – more like $1.5b – to get an NFL stadium built. And guess who gets to continue paying once built? Yes, the poor sucker fans. Ask the Niner fans how the Santa Clara deal is working out for them. Same financial disaster looms for fans in ANY city building a new stadium at this point. Stay hello to ticket prices jacked up 2x-3x, huge PSL fees, and more expensive EVERYTHING. At what point to fans stay home? I think we’re reaching that breaking point, and fast. NFL is in for a rude surprise when they put a team in LA and there’s not enough live gate to make it work.

  22. So the rumor is that the relocation fee will be 1B dollars. Let’s assume both the chargers and raiders come up w that kind off $$ (not worried about the Rams, they have it!) and all of a sudden the plan falls apart and both the chargers and raiders have to stay in SD and OAK. SO now they will come to the tax payers and ask that we pay for their stadium……. Seems to me they put themselves in a no win situation. I for sure as hell won’t vote on tax payers paying for a stadium when they found a way to come up w a relocation fee without tax payers $$
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    That is the smoking gun that I have been screaming about since day one.

    For the $1 billion, the Chargers could finance the entire new stadium project on their own and “pay for it in full.”

  23. In order to be successful, the newest LA owner will need very deep pockets. Only Kroenke can be successful here. This whole thing is a canard.

    For the knuckleheads who continue to disparage the LA fan base – We have 100 year old stadiums that were outdated 40 years ago. No modern sports franchise can survive financially with the classic college bowl of a stadium from a different era. Forget fancy scoreboards, there isn’t even enough structure for a single luxury box. And no, you can’t upgrade either stadium.

    Lastly, let’s not forget that we So Cal liberals won’t give one dime to billionaires for their palaces. We’ll build the roads and connecting infrastructure, but we’ll send them a bill for it. Billionaires and corporate robber barrens get zilch here. Fleece the midwesterners of their money.

    Kroenke can pay. Spanos and Davis can’t. Spanos should build his own stadium in San Diego with his own money. He’s not going to get any help from the citizens here so he might as well stay where he is – where he also won’t get any help from the taxpayers. Kroenke wants out of Missouri. And who can blame him with what’s going on there?

  24. I love how some idiots on here are saying LA isn’t a sports town.

    Dodgers have been oversold for DECADES and have a waiting list for season tix.
    Kings have a waiting list for season tix the past 4-5 years (even before they won the Cup) and 90% capacity even through the terrible seasons.
    Lakers, no comment needed. Sold out for the last 30+ seasons in 2 different arenas.
    Galaxy have won several championships and never hurting for attendance either.

    The ONLY reason the Raiders left is that L.A. city council promised upgrades to the Coliseum that they never fulfilled. Hell, it was already 60 years old when they played there in the 90’s, and desperately needed these upgrades but they refused. So Al Davis left. It was never because of attendance. Just look at all the Raider fans still in the city.

  25. This year it is the Chargers, Raiders and Rams
    2016 – Rams, Raiders and Jaguars
    2017 – Jaguars, Titans and Chiefs
    2018 – Chiefs, Bills and Saints

    I admit that I pulled teams out of a hat for the list, but isn’t it obvious to everyone that it is always different teams going to LA, proving that the NFL doesn’t intend to put a team there, they let the owners use LA as a leverage to get more free money from the cities and states the teams are already in.

    LA had multiple teams there and they moved. You can come up with whatever reason you want, but the fact remains the teams left the city. There is no reason to think that it will not happen a third time!

  26. xpensivewinos says:
    Nov 11, 2015 8:45 PM
    So the rumor is that the relocation fee will be 1B dollars. Let’s assume both the chargers and raiders come up w that kind off $$ (not worried about the Rams, they have it!) and all of a sudden the plan falls apart and both the chargers and raiders have to stay in SD and OAK. SO now they will come to the tax payers and ask that we pay for their stadium……. Seems to me they put themselves in a no win situation. I for sure as hell won’t vote on tax payers paying for a stadium when they found a way to come up w a relocation fee without tax payers $$
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    That is the smoking gun that I have been screaming about since day one.

    For the $1 billion, the Chargers could finance the entire new stadium project on their own and “pay for it in full.”

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    What you’re forgetting is the worth of the franchise once they move. Let’s say each one of these teams is worth 1 billion dollars. Let’s also say that each one of these teams can come up with a billion dollars to build a new stadium. Do you spend that billion on a new stadium in your own city, where once completed, your team is still worth 1 billion? OR, do you spend that billion to build it in Los Angeles and your team instantly doubles its value to 2 billion minimum? And I’d bet that any franchise that moves here will be worth closer to 2.5 billion realistically. That’s why if you have the money to build your own stadium you still move the team to Los Angeles. This is business. Not saying it’s right… but it is what it is.

  27. It makes sense nobody gets their feathers ruffled til after the season. And for you haters, LA had problems, because the Coliseum and Rose Bowl are ancient. Pop in the new wonder of the world,load up the Raiders and Rams leave SD in SD. I may just be a small time pizza lawyer, but its good, its allllllll goooood. #prosoccersucks #baseballsboring #LARAIDERS2016…

  28. Oh yea and the Raiders will announce their new mystery billionaire after the season, Spanos no longer needed. Two Stadiums, Disneyland, Beaches, Mountains, Moviestars, Rapgods, everything Cali does sets the trend for the Nation to follow…

  29. Dean Spanos inherited the team fr his daddy. He cud never make a football decision on his own bcz he is clueless!
    Fired or let go: Bobby Ross- football guy
    Jim Steeg- NFL guy
    Buddy Nix-football guy
    Marty -football guy
    Hired: Ron Wolf (football guy) to help hire a football guy
    Tom Telesco- 3 awful drafts!
    Mike McCoy-coordinator at best, NOT HC material
    John and AG Spanos- NOT FOOTBALL GUYS RUNNING AN NFL TEAM!!!!
    Mark Fabiani-frontman for team NOT A FOOTBALL GUY
    DISNEY CEO- Really!? Then again it does make sense. Chargers have a bunch of fictional characters running this team.
    PPPPLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSE. JUS LEAVE AND DONT COMR BACK JUST LEAVE THE TEAM NAME AND COLORS!

  30. What’s the alternative? Announce it now or around Christmas and have no one show up,or,have some ugly scenes in the stands for the remaining home games?

    LA is no less of a market than Phoenix was when St Louis relocated there. And that’s a big understament. Political conditions and stadium issues seemed to play the biggest role in the Rams and Raiders leaving and those seem to be moot if a stadium or stadiums get built for those teams.

  31. I can’t understand why any team would want to relocate to the Los Angeles basin, as it has the worst smog in the nation. How would you like to be a player there, coughing for breath at about the start of the third quarter?

    Oh, I forgot, the owners sit in air-conditioned luxury boxes equipped with particulate filtration.

  32. After seeing the Chargers play home games against the Raiders and the Bears, I have to say that the Chargers should move to San Antonio. They have no fans in Cali at all. It seems as though they have 16 away games. San Antonio would be thrilled to get a team, they would cheer like crazy for that team. The Raiders get a new stadium in Oakland, and the Rams move back to L.A. and build their own stadium. That should make everyone happy and put as little burden on the Cali taxpayers as possible.

  33. Why is there a team in freaking Jacksonville, FL?

    Why don’t the Jaguars move to L.A. – and why has Shad Khan not been pushing for that?

  34. The Baltimore Colts moved to Indy on March 29, 1984…. So its not like announcing and executing a relocation in March hasn’t been done before.

  35. A huge logistical problem to move? The colts did it in one night.

    The reasoning for the late hour of the move was out of fear that the Maryland House of Delegates would also approve the eminent domain bill the State Senate had, which would have resulted in the team being seized the next morning once Maryland Governor Harry Hughes signed the bill into law.[14] Workers loaded all of the team’s belongings and the trucks left for Indianapolis. Within eight hours of the Mayflower trucks’ arrival in Owings Mills, the Colts were completely gone from Baltimore.[18] Later that day, the House of Delegates indeed passed the bill by a count of 103–19 and Governor Hughes signed it, but by that time it was too late.[19]

  36. So, the NFL won’t make a decision until March. Two months ago the two largest stadiums (Rose Bowl / Coliseum) both said no thanks to the NFL as a ‘temp’ home.

    If they come, where are they going to play football for the next 3 – 10 years while they are waiting for the next state-of-the-art stadium to be built and the infrastructure is completed? Dodger Stadium? Angles in Anaheim? Neither of those are football stadiums.

    No doubt, as soon as a deal is announced and the actual location tries to turn dirt, dozen’s of lawsuits to stop the project, where ever it is proposed will be filed. Nothing happens in LA without lawsuits over everything.

  37. This is a lie!

    If the Rams sold out why would they leave LA in the first place?

    The Dodgers have absolutely nothing to do with the NFL and Dodgers fans can’t even watch the local Dodgers games if they have comcast, because no attends their games.

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    Let’s see….

    The Rams left while having top attendance as their owner had died and His wife first moved the team to Anaheim.. Then later to St Louis.. Both times leaving as money was thrown at her.. Yet they drew fans in Los Angeles where they were top five in attendance for 48 years..
    And the Dodgers were the first to 3 million fans in a season.. And Comcast and The Dodgers fought over fees over their cable network.. No one attends their games? 3 million a season ?

  38. In March the NFL will say it’s too late to make a move this year. It will be January 2017, after an election year we will see if we can get better tax breaks. So you better buy us new stadiums or we are really going to move.

  39. spiffybiff says:
    Nov 11, 2015 7:33 PM
    Funny so how many uninformed “fans” seem to “know” la was a failure for 2 teams. Truth was both owners had issues with local municipalities getting stadiums and left. Attendance and fandom was not an issue

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    Except even in Anaheim, Rams games as I remember failed to sell out. Both teams often were blacked out in LA back then as I recall.

    The problem with any team moving to LA now is the same one LA had 20 years ago: It’s a LAKER town first, the one city where the NBA trumps the NFL and has for years.

    Even with the Clippers currently the better team in LA, the Lakers still are the #1 team there, followed by the Dodgers, then USC and UCLA Football, etc. That’s why the Rams and Raiders left after 1994 as I remember.

    To me, the networks are pushing this because THEY want a team in LA so they can have stars of their shows “be seen at the game” in the hope it will get them more female viewers who often tune into Laker games (and now Clipper games) when they are nationally just to see who is there.

  40. @CAFETERO1075 I Can’t agree more. The NFL does not want to lose that leverage. The only reason it is getting this much attention this year is because there happen to be 3 teams that have “stadium issues.” The only reason it is getting this much attention now is because the city leaders and voters are finally standing up to the NFL owners.

  41. I’m suprised they don’t just create a couple of new franchises. I know they already struggle to field enough quality quaterbacks, I can see two tiers like the Champions League.

  42. Let all three teams move there, as well as Jacksonville. Let’s get 4 teams in LA, all playing in the same stadium. Form a new division: the AFC L.A. Division. By mid-November, the turf will look like a Monster Truck Show.

  43. Some fans are just plain dumb. The Rsms wrre in ORange County back then… While more developed now it isn’t anything like LA. Plenty of NFL fans out here.

  44. Rams will go back to LA and flounder. And down the road Mortenson will float that he’s hearing that the reason for its failure was somehow tied to Kraft….

  45. This dithering means that a LA move in 2016 is OFF– or if attempted anyway, would be a characteristic Goodell-magnitude disaster. NFL’s Criminal Commis has too many spinning plates in the air: 0-5 major court losses, trying to preserve back door gambling, LA move (aka who will pay the biggest bribe), & the 3,000 lb. twin gorilla in the room, felons on rosters if they can play the first 5 minutes at full speed, and head trauma. With a normally competent commissioner, one or two plates might be dropped. Screw-up Goodell will drop them ALL.

  46. jmoney74 says:
    Nov 12, 2015 8:59 AM

    Some fans are just plain dumb. The Rsms wrre in ORange County back then… While more developed now it isn’t anything like LA. Plenty of NFL fans out here.

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    Looks like you are one of those fans you mentioned.

  47. That’s what you get for constantly beating our Dodgers, St. Louis. We’ll take your football team, because we can’t take any games in Busch Stadium in October. Kershaw still isn’t the same.

  48. I have no problem with a team in LA I have a problem with how the NFL and adoph Goodell are basically manipulating the three cities and letting them twist in the wind.

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