Marvin Lewis: Penalty on Domata Peko “kind of ridiculous”

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As the clock wound down in the fourth quarter of Sunday night’s game, the Cardinals were trying to spike the ball to stop the clock and set up a 47-yard field goal to win the game when guard Ted Larsen stood up ahead of the snap amid a flurry of flags.

If it was a false start, there would be a 10-second runoff that sent the game to overtime. The call was not on the Cardinals, however. It was an unsportsmanlike conduct call on Bengals defensive tackle Domata Peko for simulating offensive signals, which meant Chandler Catanzaro was 15 yards closer when he nailed the game-winner.

After the game, Peko said that he was yelling to his teammates to “get set” and wondered if “the bass in my voice” made it sound like he was trying to mimic Carson Palmer’s snap count. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis called the penalty on Peko a “phantom call” and “kind of ridiculous.”

“I trust what our player did and said,” Lewis said, via ESPN.com. “He’s alerting a run and not anything to do with what they’re saying. I don’t see how they make that call at that point in the game like that. I trust our guy to be honest with me.”

Palmer said it was “real obvious” that Peko was trying to simulate the snap count, but Larsen was well aware of how close it was to going the other way. He said “[expletive] yes” when asked if he was worried that he had committed a false start.

“I guess they are familiar with Carson’s snap count, and they timed it up right,” Larsen said, via the team’s website. “It’s really a situation where you want to err on the side of not [false starting]. That could have easily been a 10-second runoff.”

It wasn’t and the Cardinals got to celebrate a second straight close win on Sunday night.

79 responses to “Marvin Lewis: Penalty on Domata Peko “kind of ridiculous”

  1. If he did it than that was stupid, if he didn’t do it than the Ref over reacted at a critical point in the game and that was stupid. Either way, it happened, the game is over, move on. Catanzaro would have kicked from anywhere anyway

  2. I’m sure lots of people will come on here and say what a terrible call it was despite the fact that they could not possibly know what happened on the field since you would have to have been there to hear what he said.

    But why would anyone let that stop them from having a strong opinion?

  3. That explanation by Peko is obvious bull. Everyone in the world knew the Cardinals were going to spike it and were getting set to spike it. There is absolutely no reason for him to be yelling get set or anything else at that time. He got caught and is now making excuses.

  4. Silly Bungles, only the NE Patriots are allowed to simulate the snap on defense and not get flagged. Haven’t we all learned by now that only 31 teams are required to follow the rulebook?

  5. Yet when the Patriots actually did this earlier this season there was no call. Wasn’t that the Pittsburgh game? But sure keep up the falsehood that the NFL is picking on the Patriots. Everyone loves to be a victim.

  6. Well…if he really was simulating the snap count, then THAT’S what’s “kinda ridiculous” here, not the call.

    But yeah, if all he was saying was “get set,” which is probably a pretty normal thing for defenders to say in that situation, then the call smells like home cookin’.

    I’m sure there’s audio. They should check it, right?

  7. The time left on the clock by the Bengals play calling and failure to line up for their FG was what ended up costing them a chance for OT. Leaving time for the best QBs is playing with fire. Marvin, blame yourself.

  8. Yeah right, Lewis. Siragusa used to do the same thing back when you were the Ravens’ defensive coordinator.

  9. It sounded like the Bengals were doing it earlier in the game if you believe Larry Fitzgerald. The Cardinals probably tipped the refs so the refs were looking for it to happen again. That’s usually how it works for calls like this one.

  10. N.o F.un L.eague strikes again, with officials that make phantom or utterly ridiculously wrong calls and alter outcomes.

    Granted, sure, if the game’s that close, it’s on you (the team), but come on…let them play. How many false starts did twitchy Ted Larsen have with the Bucs?

  11. Good game Cards. I’ve got a lot of respect for that team. Proud of Cincy for hanging in there and coming back to take the lead. Injuries to Cincy’s secondary were too much to overcome, as Carson drove them right down the field when he had to. Hope we meet again!

  12. You lost because you always find a way to lose big games, Marvin.

    Somebody call the friggin whambulance.

  13. What about the horrid clock management by the Bengals with under 2 minutes left in the game? They simply scored too soon leaving 1+ minutes left for the Cardinals to get the ball back and drive for winning field goal. The Bengals PASSED on 3rd down (incomplete, stopping clock) when it was something like 3rd and 2 yds near the Cardinals 20 and Cardinals has 0 time outs left. RUN THE BALL to keep clock running so even if bengals dont get TD, they kick field goal to send to overtime. For some reason, this was never mentioned in NBC broadcast.

  14. Bengals played a tough game but got busted cheating with the simulated playcall…VERY unsportsmanlike! They probably wouldn’t have had to cheat to win but got caught, so MAN UP dude, don’t be a whining Nancy, your player messed up!

  15. The Cards were insistent that the Bengals were looking to gain a competitive advantage on this play.

    I wonder if Ted Wells is available to look into this. In the meantime, why don’t you strip the Bengals first round pick and fine them a million dollars? The integrity of the game demands it.

  16. Defense never should have been in this position since they should have run on 3rd-and-2 a few plays earlier, to make sure there was not enough time for this kind of drive.

    That said, Peko is the very last guy I would suspect to try to this. Not his MO at all. One more tally in the Horrific Call ledger for officials this year.

  17. If the Patriots did this, there would be a federal investigation, a loss of draft picks, and a million dollar fine.

    It’s the Bungles???

    Nevermind. Toss a flag.

  18. “I trust what our player did and said,” Lewis said, via ESPN.com. “He’s alerting a run and not anything to do with what they’re saying. I don’t see how they make that call at that point in the game like that. I trust our guy to be honest with me.”

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    Alerting a run as in a run play? If Marvin Lewis believes that he is an idiot, Palmer was waiting to spike it with 3 seconds left as they were out of timeouts.

  19. “Yet when the Patriots actually did this earlier this season there was no call. Wasn’t that the Pittsburgh game? But sure keep up the falsehood that the NFL is picking on the Patriots. Everyone loves to be a victim.”

    Because they didn’t. Pittsburgh didn’t even allege they did. THey shifted players on the goal line. They didn’t simulate anything.

    The ANNOUNCERS upon seeing Roethlisberger’s reaction during the game, said he must be accusing the pats of simulating the snap count. He wasn’t. He said after the game that he didn’t think the defense was allowed to shift on the goal line. Which is a little bizarre. He (Roethlisberger) never said they simulated anything. No one did.

    But here it is, 3 months later, and it’s taken as a matter of fact that it happened.

  20. Wanna see too many penalties:
    GO watch that Redskins V Panthers game, where the teams combine for 17 Penalties.
    None of which were as terrible as the “Unnecessary Roughness” against the Skins to negate a Pick-6 and put the Skins’ on top 21-14.
    I turned the game off at half-time. So bad, you can’t watch it.

  21. slaugin says:
    Nov 23, 2015 6:36 AM
    Alerting the run? Seems like a stupid excuse since they didn’t have time to run the ball
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    Not only that, but if he had been “alerting the run” in a similar fashion throughout the game, nothing would have seemed out of the ordinary and the ref wouldn’t have noticed it.

  22. thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Nov 23, 2015 8:46 AM

    That said, Peko is the very last guy I would suspect to try to this. Not his MO at all. One more tally in the Horrific Call ledger for officials this year.
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    Well, since you know him so well, next time you see him out please ask him why on earth he thought the Cardinals were going to run the ball with 6 seconds left in a tie game with no timeouts left.

  23. Not only did the superstar announcers fail to comment on CIN throwing deep on 3rd & short & stopping the clock but they also failed to notice that a false start on AZ would have led to a 10-second runoff & ended regulation with Catanzaro on the sideline.

    Wake up boys. Do a better job in the booth.

  24. Good to see Cincy warming up for their usual post season. Making room for another division banner to hang next to nothing. “Woohoo! Like five other teams, we just finished ahead of three other teams! Our work here is done.”

  25. The strangest thing to me was that the Cardinals spiked the ball on first down to stop the clock. Then they knelt on second down to start the clock and then were gonna spike it again on third down to stop the clock again when this happened.

  26. Marvin didn`t find it ridiculous when Zinter was flagged for holding Andre Smith (an OT) , 10 yards behind the LOS , because he grabbed his shirt to get around him on a 3rd and 26 . Zinter was attempting to pursue a scrambling Dalton at the time. The flag resulted in an automatic 1st down.

  27. You can see Peko moving his hand back and forth and he jerks slightly as he calls out the count. Good call.

    And you know someone was mic’d up, so we’ll know soon enough.

  28. bradwellersays says:
    Nov 23, 2015 7:13 AM
    Yet when the Patriots actually did this earlier this season there was no call. Wasn’t that the Pittsburgh game? But sure keep up the falsehood that the NFL is picking on the Patriots. Everyone loves to be a victim.


    No that’s NOT what they did in that game.
    They SHIFTED the D line

    That’s different than “simulating the snap”

  29. Without the refs, House of Cards would be 6-4 on a 2-game losing streak and in 2nd place behind the Seahawks.

  30. Lewis’s attempt at an excuse for what his player did PROVES that his player did EXACTLY what the refs flagged him for.

  31. Kittycat fans should still be bellyaching that their butts were whupped big time by the Texans of all teams instead of crying about obvious badboy Peko screwing up and trying to deny it when the ref had moved up to be positioned just behind him to be able to hear him trying to screw with the snap.

    Even Kittynumbnuts should have noticed the ref had absolutely no hesitation as he immediately called the penalty on Peko.

    NO PITY FOR THE KITTY!!!

  32. lemmetalkwouldya says:
    If the Patriots did this, there would be a federal investigation, a loss of draft picks, and a million dollar fine.
    ————
    I’m no lawyer, but usually punishment is worse for 2nd and 3rd and 4th offenses. Repeat behavior or something like that.

  33. “Marvin didn`t find it ridiculous when Zinter was flagged for holding Andre Smith (an OT) , 10 yards behind the LOS , because he grabbed his shirt to get around him on a 3rd and 26 . Zinter was attempting to pursue a scrambling Dalton at the time. The flag resulted in an automatic 1st down.”
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    Al stated after that call the refs changed the number – Collinsworth (nor you) evidently wasn’t paying attention and he erred again later on when he mentioned it. I think these guys fell asleep during the nascar race – they were awful.

  34. crownofthehelmet says:
    Nov 23, 2015 10:00

    I’m no lawyer, but usually punishment is worse for 2nd and 3rd and 4th offenses. Repeat behavior or something like that.
    _______________________________

    I guess we’ll see if the Patriots ever get caught in a second offense.

    We already know what happens when the league thinks they have caught them.

  35. The Cardinals are in first place and lead the second place Seattle Seahawks by three games, after mercilessly defeating the Seahawks in Week 10 in Seattle. Seattle blames the refs for every single one of their losses, which is very telling about their high level of immaturity.

  36. gambeast5533 says:
    Nov 23, 2015 8:28 AM
    The Cards were insistent that the Bengals were looking to gain a competitive advantage on this play.

    I wonder if Ted Wells is available to look into this. In the meantime, why don’t you strip the Bengals first round pick and fine them a million dollars? The integrity of the game demands it.
    ____________________

    They received a 5 yard penalty which made the game winning FG a chip shot. However, when the Pats did the same thing week 1 vs the Steelers,there was no flag. Hmmmm….

  37. He was alerting a run when the Cards were about to spike the ball to set up the FG since they had no timeouts and it was like 5-7 seconds left? They were going to run right after Palmer took a knee on the play before? That’s interesting there, Marv.

  38. “Bengals are 1-15 in Prime time on the road under good old Marvin.”

    Come on you Bungals fans, go ahead and explain this, just try.

  39. That Cincy Bungles player is a notoriously dirty player and shouldn’t even be allowed to play the game. I’m glad he got his 15 minutes of fame and added insult to injury to a team that has been overrated all year.

  40. AFC NORTH has been the best division in NFL for the last 15 years. We are given six wins every year like patriots or colts. So in theory you have a 10 game season. Then if you play another weak division your now given another 4 games. Which brings your grand total of tough game preparation to 6 games. Usually you get at least half of those games at home for even more of an advantage. So now it comes down to 3 big games on road. Win 1 of 3 and your 14-2. Worst case 13-3. Just do the research and you’ll see that’s how it usually works out or close to it. AFC EAST and AFC SOUTH has Been so bad for so long no one ever really looks at how these 2 teams are always in the playoffs. ( NE&INDY)

  41. ineptguy8 says:
    Nov 23, 2015 6:47 AM
    That explanation by Peko is obvious bull. Everyone in the world knew the Cardinals were going to spike it and were getting set to spike it.
    ———————————
    I remember one time when everybody in the world knew that Dan Marino was going to spike the ball, as they were set to spike it.

    Then it wasn’t…TD

  42. joetoronto says: “Bengals are 1-15 in Prime time on the road under good old Marvin.”

    0 0 0

    Presuming your numbers are correct (I haven’t checked), then they are what they are . . . no explanation needed. They need to get better.

    Just a fan, not an over-positive cheerleader nor an over-negative flame-thrower. And you?

  43. daysend564 says:

    ineptguy8 says:

    That explanation by Peko is obvious bull. Everyone in the world knew the Cardinals were going to spike it and were getting set to spike it.
    ———————————
    I remember one time when everybody in the world knew that Dan Marino was going to spike the ball, as they were set to spike it.

    Then it wasn’t…TD

    ———————————
    Funny, because I remember Dan Marino not running that ball into the end zone. Peko said he was yelling about a run play.

  44. “Well, since you know him so well, next time you see him out please ask him why on earth he thought the Cardinals were going to run the ball with 6 seconds left in a tie game with no timeouts left.”

    Thanks for being ridiculous. I know that he helped save a guy’s life a few years ago where who had an accident not far in front of him. I know that stories of his faith and integrity are common in articles about him. Stuff I’m sure you don’t know.

    No, he couldn’t possibly be trying to communicate with his teammates in an attempt to block a kick. The ONLY possible explanation is that he was trying to cheat.

    Good grief…

  45. It was an odd penalty, but after reading the Bengals explanation its clear they are full of it. If they could have drew a false start regulation would have ended and they live to see OT.

    Peko said that he was yelling to his teammates to “get set” and wondered if “the bass in my voice” made it sound like he was trying to mimic Carson Palmer’s snap count.

    Yeah, the “bass in your voice” fooled the ref that you were trying to mimic Palmer. lol

    Lewis said, via ESPN.com. “He’s alerting a run and not anything to do with what they’re saying.

    Alerting the run ? with 0.6 seconds left and no time outs for AZ.

    Yeah, ok. Glad they lost.

  46. And why is Marvin Lewis even lying about this? The whole scenario is clear as day.

    The game was over other than a missed field goal. The best chance Cincy had was to draw the false start, get the 10 second runoff and go to OT.

    Bungals fan. “No, there was no way he was mimicing the snap count there, none at all. He was just trying to alert his teammates to watch for the run. We got screwed by the refs”

    Just own it and move on instead of crying that you got caught.

  47. “joetoronto says:
    Nov 23, 2015 12:12 PM
    “Bengals are 1-15 in Prime time on the road under good old Marvin.”
    Come on you Bungals fans, go ahead and explain this, just try.”

    Just as soon as you explain your team’s 60-142 record in any situation during that time.

  48. The same theme all year, no matter what team I’m watching, is that the refs are making this game hard to watch. I am growing tired of it. The NFL needs to fix it or they will lose fans.

  49. So let me get this straight, they called a penalty for simulating offensive signals, but the quarterback can get up there do a hard count, jerking his head but that is ok. The NFL is becoming the biggest joke in sports, because they have so many dumb rules. My question is did anybody else jump no, he forgot the snap count and jumped off sides and the ref’s belled him out.

  50. Every team does it even the Cardinals, if you think otherwise your full of crap. Every team does anything they can to throw the other team off. The ref did not want to go to overtime. Why did they not call the helmet to the head on Green happens every week, and the mugging Peterson kept giving Green after 5 yards is mystifying.

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