Broncos suddenly have a contracts problem for 2016

AP

Good news, Broncos! Quarterback Brock Osweiler looks like he can play the position at a high level!

Bad news, Broncos! Copy and paste the above here!

In the fourth year of his rookie contract, Osweiler is now only five regular-season games away from becoming eligible for unrestricted free agency. And if he hits the open market after with last night’s snow-globe takedown of the Patriots on his resume, one of the handful of teams with horrible quarterback situations (you know who you are) will gladly pay Osweiler big money to take the reins.

Meanwhile, Broncos linebacker Von Miller is also rocketing toward unrestricted free agency, and the Broncos (like every NFL franchise) have only one franchise tag to use. So at least one of those two guys will need to be signed to a long-term deal before the deadline comes and goes for applying the tag to the other.

Meanwhile to the meanwhile, quarterback Peyton Manning has a $19 million base salary for 2016.

The easiest decision will be to move on from Manning. The harder decision will be to determine how much of Manning’s $19 million should go to Osweiler. If Osweiler decides to push for the open market (and his agents at CAA surely will know what the market will bear for him), the Broncos may need the full $19 million and then some in order to tag the quarterback — and they’ll also need to break the bank for Miller in order to keep him off the market, too.

Some would say it’s a good problem to have. Others would say the only good problem is no problem. Either way, 2016 has plenty of challenges for the Broncos. It’ll be here the moment the 2015 postseason concludes.

62 responses to “Broncos suddenly have a contracts problem for 2016

  1. Think Jerry Jones makes a run at Brock?

    After all, “Brock” is the most Dallas Cowboys name you can get.

  2. All Oz has to do is stay healthy and keep doing what he’s doing and he is gonna cash in HUGE.

    Meanwhile, my Bears would be happy to back up the truck for Von Miller, I would think.

  3. Depending how the rest of the games go, I say give Brock a lucrative 1-year deal to prove he’s a multi-year guy, and save some money for Von’s multi-year deal

  4. The Broncos can just pay each of them $50 million a year. For them the cap is more guidelines than actual rules.

  5. Here’s what you do:

    1. 100% sign Von Miller long term.

    2. You determine how much of a paycut Manning will take (if he doesn’t decide to retire)

    3a. If he takes a large paycut, tag Osweiler
    3b. If he doesn’t take a paycut, sign Osweiler long term.

    Honestly, PM retiring makes the situation easiest. As a Bronco fan, I just hate seeing PM leaving and not finishing his final year of his contract. But I can’t deny Osweiler has been groomed for the NFL & is ready now.

  6. WHO CARES!!! 2016 problems, they beat the by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL & got penalized like they crybabies should have been all season long!!! Suck it Brady & all patsie fans no perfect season for you AGAIN!!!

  7. While he played a better game last night, he owes some credit to a couple so so calls, (not that the Pats are ever short on those) and some great running on two TDs by Anderson.

    Can he play in the league? Maybe, but its been two games. I don’t think he should be calling the dump trucks over to his place in order to take his cash to the bank yet.

    Sounds like Manning is ready after next week. Assuming Brock does OK next week, his best strategy is hoping Manning does come back for the rest of the year. There are enough desperate and trigger happy execs around the league that will take a huge risk on an unproven guy like Brock as their next started,soley based on these games.

    He is unproven and only if he and he alone plays the rest of the way and into the playoffs and eins a playoff game or two,can you say he’s proven enough in a short time. Anything less than that and teams are taking too small a sample size.

    Look at Matt Flynn as exhibit A.

  8. Paying a quarterback $19 million for winning one game certainly seems like a good plan to me. That sort of thing never goes wrong.

  9. If you are thinking that they should spend 19 million or more on Osweiler because he had 1 good game, you must be high.

    The jury should at the very least still be out. I am not saying that they should stick with Peyton, I am saying that he isn’t worth 19 million because of 1 game. He might earn it through the rest of the year but let that finish before speculating.

  10. when the author said you know who you are i simply sighed as a ram fan i know if he hits the market the rams should at least be interested they have a stout defense and a running back in gurley. the rams like about 15-20 teams are only a qb away from a very solid team. by the way aaron rodgers hasn’t done too bad after sitting behind favre for a few years brock has a chance to be very good. and except for karma issues (the rams used to have a qb named brock berlin) we should flourish with him under center!!

  11. i’d like to see this young man put on another 30-50lbs. Still a bit thin in the legs. He would go stud status if he can get to swiping off defenders like Ben.

  12. td30 says:
    Nov 30, 2015 11:25 AM

    Depending how the rest of the games go, I say give Brock a lucrative 1-year deal to prove he’s a multi-year guy, and save some money for Von’s multi-year deal

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    Why in the world would Brock agree to a 1 year deal when he could get a multi year deal and more money? He’s worth what the market will pay.

  13. Brock has looked decent in two games, but lets not get carried away. It’s been TWO games. Wait until coaches get some film on him and see if he still performs.

    Remember, RGIII looked good for a while too!

    Brock seems like a good kid and I’m pulling for him to succeed in a QB starved league.

  14. yes – he’ll get the money, he’ll get the contract, that’s the just the way the league is (ie, Ryan Fitzpatrick)-

    But let’s not anoint him yet.

  15. Dan McGuire II. I hope the donkeys give him the 5-year 100K contract. Oh yeah, he fits the Kubiak offense…which worked so well before with a REAL QB. Yeah, he’s the second coming. Please pay him! I forgot, the cap in Denver is just a suggestion.

  16. As a neutral viewer last night I was pretty awed by Brock’s deep ball. They were right on the money & his arm strength appears to be top notch…as opposed to Peyton’s flutter balls at this stage in his career.

    If I were Denver, I’d make sure this QB doesn’t make it out of the nest.

  17. This is not a dilemma:

    Miller – You sign long term (or get fired as GM).

    Manning – Retires, takes a pay cut, or gets his walking papers.

    Oz – Assess for the remainder of the season and, if he continues to play well, either sign him long term or franchise tag him to keep or trade. If he sucks, let him walk.

    Two years ago, it would have been a tough choice. Next year, Cassel or Fitzpatrick will be equally viable alternatives given Peyton’s performance and the play of the defense & run game (if Oz doesn’t work out).

  18. nflofficeadmin says:

    i’d like to see this young man put on another 30-50lbs. Still a bit thin in the legs. He would go stud status if he can get to swiping off defenders like Ben.
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    The dude is 6’8″ 240lbs. You want a 300 pound quarterback running around?

  19. The dude is 6’8″ 240lbs. You want a 300 pound quarterback running around?
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    My thoughts exactly. At 6’8 you can carry a lot of weight and still look “thin”. A QB who is bigger than most OTs would be impossible to bring down but I’m not sure it would benefit him in other ways.

    My other thought is that Osweiler is Exhibit 1, 2, and 3 of why you draft a solid QB prospect – even if he’s a bit raw – a couple of seasons BEFORE you actually expect to need him.

  20. LMAO…the dude has played all of two games!! Two. Your ready to anoint him the franchise starter for the next 10 years? Get real.
    Do the names Matt Flynn/Rob Johnson/Matt Cassell/Nick Foles ring a bell? Let him play the rest of the season and playoffs and see how he does after opposing teams get some film on him. If at the end of the year he looks promising, then look to work something out to lock him up short term or long term if you fall in love with him. I personally would franchise him for a year if i liked what I saw out of him this year and that gives me another complete season with an offseason to evaluate him before I offer a long term/very expensive deal to him.

  21. Break the bank for a guy who won two games? Seriously?

    Remember how that worked out for the teams who paid Matt Cassell to be the “next Tom Brady?”…sheesh…..at least Cassell had most of a regular season to look at.

  22. They will also have a huge contract come off the the books – Ryan Clady. No doubt he will be released. Money will not be a huge issue. Seriously doubt Ware is back next year either. More big money gone.

  23. Historically, the way Denver’s team abuses the salary cap, they should be renamed the “Cheetahs”. Ergo, it makes no difference what they do.

  24. Some of you non Broncos fans aren’t realizing how painful it was watching a future hall of famer in Manning, throw duck after duck after interception, after interception, while our defense won those games, NOT Manning. Now we have a quarterback who can pass, run, and audible while backing it up with sound play, and we get excited. The rest of you just can’t stand we have something to be excited about. And by the way, taking the Patriots out of undefeated land was quite the accomplishment for this only 2 game winner!

  25. He has two games, one of them stellar, and people talk of long term contracts? I’d say tag him, and trade him. Get what you can for 4 years of training him, but he doesn’t look special.

  26. It’s too small a sample size to burden Osweiler with the franchise QB media hype. The story of last night’s game was that both teams played well despite adversity and gave NBC a better game than its lame ad-packed broadcast deserved.

    If the Broncos keep Osweiler as the starter the rest of the season, they will have a good idea what he’s worth. If they don’t, they won’t.

  27. The guy’s played pretty well, but his upside is likely an above average, not elite, NFL QB. Nothing wrong with that though if Denver’s D remains this strong.

  28. If he keeps playing like this, he’ll get a salary commensurate with an average starting QB, which is massive. For the Broncos, the key would be keeping it to something like a three year deal. If he presses for five or so ’cause he can get it elsewhere, you have to consider the tag for one year at 5-7 more million if you see him as a potential franchise QB. I dunno, I haven’t seen the games.

  29. A lot will depend on how Osweiler perform on the remaining games. If he leads the Broncos to a Super Bowl win, or even to the AFC championship game, then it is a no brainer. He will get a good contract from the Broncos. If Osweiler does not play well in the preseason, allowing Manning to return to the starting post, then Osweiler’s bargaining position will be a lot weaker. The Broncos may have to let him go if another team offers him $20 mil a year and the Broncos are not sure that he is worth that much.

  30. @abninf Math is not your strength. It would take 60lbs to get to 300lbs from 240lbs.

    An additional 30-50lbs would be between 270lbs-290lbs. At 6’8″, playing at 280lbs would look very natural for any pocket passer. Also, there is a major assumption here that his listed weight of 240lbs is accurate. Big Ben is listed 6’5″ 241lbs, and Steeler fans will tell you he has played games well above 241lbs.

  31. Silver and Black attack says:
    Nov 30, 2015 12:29 PM

    LMAO…the dude has played all of two games!! Two. Your ready to anoint him the franchise starter for the next 10 years? Get real.
    Do the names Matt Flynn/Rob Johnson/Matt Cassell/Nick Foles ring a bell?

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    Cassell played a full season and thrived under the patented Belicheat system. He is not the example you want here.

  32. It’s a Brady-Bledsoe thing here: out with the old (Big Bro Manning) and in with the new (Osweiler). Peyton could easily fetch a 2-year $80-90M contract on the open market in 2016 (Jets, Browns, 49ers, Cowboys, Rams) and make then instant regular season winning teams (i.e., above .500).

  33. If Denver still doesn’t win the big one, then all bets are off. Elway will probably fire everyone again and nobody is safe.

  34. >>”Depending how the rest of the games go, I say give Brock a lucrative 1-year deal to prove he’s a multi-year guy, and save some money for Von’s multi-year deal

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    Why in the world would Brock agree to a 1 year deal when he could get a multi year deal and more money? He’s worth what the market will pay.”

    How on earth did that comment get 34 votes up and none down? The OP is clearly talking about putting the franchise tag on Brock in the context signing Von to a multi-year deal. Of course, Brock wouldn’t have to agree to anything.

    Suddenly all the pro-Patriots posts on this board during deflategate starts to make sense. A guy named “The Deflater” doesn’t tell you anything. Naw.

  35. Author only hints at the tip of the Elway iceberg.

    Here’s a list of Bronco FAs for 2016:

    Matt Paradis, Tyler Polumbus, Brandon Marshall, CJ Anderson, Ronnie Hillman, Omar Bolden, Derek Wolfe, Danny Trevathan, Ryan Harris, Malik Jackson, David Bruton Jr, Darian Stewart, Evan Mathis, Vernon Davis, and Von Miller.

    All have had significant roles with the team this year. Eight are front line starters, many of the vaunted defensive outfit.

    Thinkin’ most will want to be paid. Not showing much cap wiggle room, Elway assembled the team to win NOW. Good luck with THEN.

  36. Can you say Scott Michell? Maybe I was watching a different game, but I saw a guy that the league doesn’t ahave a book on yet (Kaepernick anybody) who played largely average most of the night. Lst night’s loss for the Patriots was more on what I’ve been saying for weeks, they’re running on fumes with all of the injured bodies, and I don’t see anyway they could win a Super Bowl vs. either the Panthers or Cardinals for that matter. However, give me that game last night in Foxborough, I know who I got.

  37. What I wonder is if Elway is just desperately hoping they win it all this year so he can walk away with a feeling of accomplishment and leave the steaming post-championship mess for the next guy.

    Miller has shown that he deserves a big pay day, having been an impact player for all four-plus of his seasons to date. Brock’s off to a good start, but doesn’t have that kind of track record to justify anything crazy. If he does get a nice contract, it should emphasize incentive bonuses and keep a lid on the guaranteed money. But there will be plenty of GMs willing to ignore that sound advice, I bet.

  38. Everyone, WE only know him for 2 1/2 games. The Broncos know him for the last 4 years. They have a far, far better understanding of his capabilities than we do.

    That said, if you have a QB who appears to be at least decent, you sign him. There are not enough competent QB’s to go around and you will not find a better option on the market. Drafting a QB puts you in an even worse position of not knowing. At the end of the season, you either choose Manning or you choose Osweiler. Neither one will be satisfied with anything less than a starting role.

  39. Broncos have plenty of cap space in 2016. They are currently scheduled to have $20 million in cap space. Cutting Peyton or having him retire clears another $19 million. Cutting Ryan Clady clears another $8.9 million. That’s nearly $50 million in cap space they could have by just making 2 moves.

  40. Umm, the QB franchise tag is estimated to be $25 million in 2016. I think the Broncos would be crazy, even if Brock takes them to the Super Bowl, to give him that kind of money. He is showing a lot of promise, but he does not deserve Brady, Rodgers, etc. money. Let’s get real and not suggest the franchise tag for Osweiller.

  41. amkillerfin says:
    Nov 30, 2015 11:28 AM

    WHO CARES!!! 2016 problems, they beat the by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL & got penalized like they crybabies should have been all season long!!! Suck it Brady & all patsie fans no perfect season for you AGAIN!!!
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    I know you probably don’t get the actual irony in your statement but you do realize your put down was “no perfect season for you AGAIN!!! Like that’s supposed to bother Patriots fans?!? LOL, why don’t you and flipper quit your yappin’ and try not to have a losing season. You are behind the BILLS!! That’s just sad.

  42. Von Miller is a slip up away from a year suspension, I’m not sure he gets full market value.
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    No, he’s not. He exited the program Aug. 2nd after 2 years of no violations. He’s getting full market value.

  43. John Elway knows how to evaluate players coming out of college. They don’t need Manning, and if they lost Osweiler, Trevor Siemian could step in and shock us the way Osweiler has. They also drafted Shane Ray last year and he could step in and be just as good as Von Miller. History proves that there are always going to be good players that slip right past the teams picking early. Those teams are picking early because they aren’t very good, and they aren’t very good because they don’t know how to evaluate players coming out of college. This is Elway’s greatest strength, and it’s going to keep Denver in good position as long as he’s running the show.

  44. You all keep trotting out Flynn etc, don’t forget Kevin Kolb. I cannot for the life of me remember a guy so hyped that had been so hyped for so little. There are more Kolb, Flynn, Fitzpatrick riches to rags stories than there are Aaron Rodgers examples.

  45. This is not new. Everyone who paid attention knew the Broncos were in “win now” mode and had sacrificed 2-8 years in the hopes of winning a Super Bowl the last two. Starting next year the Broncos will be terrible, for a while.

  46. Blame Elway.

    No plan for the future…. just win a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning, then stink for a few years.

    Everyone and his dog knew Manning was aging, you don’t leave two potential stars unsigned the same year. The HOPE was that Osweiler would be a successful pro, why does Von Miller not have a long term deal?

  47. Broncos have plenty of money to sign all their upcoming free agents if they wish to do so. If they let them walk it’s not because of the salary cap. How? They have one of the best cap gurus in the league, Mike Sullivan who knows how to structure contracts. Broncos will be fine.

  48. As a Pat’s fan, I was impressed with Othweiller the other night (although the Pats win if Hightower doesn’t go down – or if they don’t fumble the punt, or needless to say the ref shenanigans). Still, Peyton is cooked, and QB is far and away the most valuable position. You’ve got to pay the man

    However, the Broncos have a history of salary cap violations, so they should be able to wriggle their way out of this one as well. But then again with their record of PED violations, they might want to let Von Miller go, because at some point the league is going to say enough’s enough, and start confiscating first rounders, like they do for every Pats supposed violation (all two of them, one unproven which was a 5k equipment violation). Of course, the Bronc have their share of equipment violations – vaseline on the jersies, radios in the headsets. But, I digress.

  49. Broncos fans are laughable. Ostweiler has started 2 games! Go ahead and give him big money, it will destroy the franchise for the next 5 years. As always Broncos will choke in the playoffs. The only time they won they got caught cheating the salary cap and putting silicone on their jerseys.

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