Brady: I have to make better decisions with the football

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady had good moments early in Sunday’s game against the Eagles, throwing two touchdown passes in the first half, and he was good late while bringing the Patriots back within a touchdown.

The third quarter wasn’t so hot, however. Brady threw a pair of interceptions at or in the end zone, one of which Malcolm Jenkins returned for a touchdown that gave the Eagles their first lead. Brady called that throw “bad quarterbacking” and criticized his overall decision-making after the game.

“We’ve got to do a better job. I think that’s just what it comes down to,” Brady said in his postgame press conference. “No one can do your job for you and the execution of certain plays. There’s no one, well, tonight there were a couple of people who threw it [Brady caught a pass from Danny Amendola just before his second interception], but I’m the person that throws it the most, and I’ve got to make good decisions with the ball. If I turn the ball over twice, I don’t think we’re going to have the chance to win many games, so I think that’s what it comes down to.”

Brady wasn’t the only person to blame for Sunday’s loss. The Patriots had a punt blocked and another returned for a touchdown, an attempted drop kick for an onside kick in the second quarter handed the Eagles a short field they used to set up their first score and there was heavy pressure on Brady for much of the day.

There are also injuries to several key offensive players to deal with, but Brady said the team has to “find ways to adjust” and they’ll need to do a better job of it against the Texans if they want to snap their two-game losing streak.

167 responses to “Brady: I have to make better decisions with the football

  1. Every dog has its day. there is no logical reason for the Eagles to win this game…but they did. And thats why they play the game. String a couple more in and the Pats will be playing in the first rd of the playoffs.

  2. No need to panic. Work the system, hope some injured bodies came back, and most importantly, hope that Offense Line starts to play better.

  3. Maybe if this whining sissy would play football instead of being the crybaby he is, it might be okay. Every play he wants a call, begs for a call and God forbid you hit this prissy little “man”. Its tackle football Tommy. Most over-rated and over-hyped athlete of our time. Pats losing is like a national holiday. They are the scum on the underneath of a turd.

  4. In sports terms, I hate the patriots. I hate Tom Brady.

    But is there any other QB that could have done as much with so little as Brady did yesterday?

    Yes, he had the pick-six. But he had them in the game until the end.

    Signed,
    Eagles Fan

  5. What a coincidence…it appears that in an outside cold-weather game, Brady has accuracy issues…I wonder if there could be any contributing factors…

  6. IMO greatest player ever, but that decision on the pick six was horrendous. He had a similar bad decision late against the Giants (pick on the one) and had a bad red zone pick against Washington. The value of Gronkowski cannot be overstated. Without him the offense is solid and Brady is a very good quarterback. With him the offense is great and Brady is lethal.

    Heal up 87.

  7. mikermiker says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:05 AM
    Deserve every loss and injury for making a mockery of the league. #forevertainted

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    How then do you explain the state of so many teams this year? The NFL is a mockery alright, but it is the fault of the clown show at headquarters and the ineptitude of officials that has gotten it to this.
    The Patriots lost the game because they played badly in all phases of the game and the Eagles capitalized on the mistakes to their credit. The Patriots did not lose the game and have not suffered the injuries they have because of some cosmic forces as you would like to believe miker.

  8. With the injuries to Brady’s short passing targets, the O line is being exposed for who they really are…..AWFUL. This group can’t hold blocks and it is a miracle Brady is still standing……double digit hits, 4 sacks….and this is a weekly occurrence. The Patriots have used their high draft picks on defense exclusively and the offense has been exposed. The O line is garbage, the RBs are garbage, and WR depth is nonexistent. Shows you how great Brady really is. He’s surrounded by JAGs yet still puts up big numbers. Yesterday, he was forcing it at times and the team paid the price. At some point, Belichick might get him a stud WR or a RB who doesn’t dance behind the line of scrimmage…..and a real lineman or three.

  9. Brady, as always, didn’t blame anyone but himself – though there were a lot of big play passes dropped too

    But Brady is right – if he doesn’t throw those INTs it’s a different game

    Oh well – the season doesn’t truly start until the playoffs and with any luck the Pat’s have Gronk and Edelman back – and I’m sure all other teams hope that doesn’t happen

  10. Patriots threw that game…someone stood a lot to win by betting on the heavy underdogs. Hey, would any body put it past them* ?

  11. Anyone who watched the game saw that the Patriots giftwrapped this for the Eagles. Bad decisions and extremely poor play beat them.

    Regardless of who is in the lineup, if they play smart football and execute fundamentally, they will be fine. Remember, they were up by 14 points in each of their two losses and then horrid mistakes by the special teams allowed the opponents to crawl back into the games.

    Turnovers and mistakes will kill you in this league. The Patriots still have good enough personnel to win out. They just don’t have what they need to overcome their own mistakes. I think this is obvious.

  12. Yeah, he was getting frustrated and many times we’ve seen Brady throw INTs when he decides to just chuck it around instead of dumping down to a back or whatever. With balls clanging off the hands of Chandler, Lafell, Martin, and whomever else – he just got stupid.

    Even on the INT after Brady caught a ball for 30 something yards, he chucked it into double coverage. Even if Lafell kept running the route, it was a dumb decision.

    Last season he was throwing INTs just before the half. It was almost uncanny how often he did it. He goes through this and eventually rights the ship.

    But his offensive line…man…they are downright putrid. Can’t run block, can’t pass block for more than half a second… They’re terrible and are pretty much at full strength…save for Solder being out.

  13. The greatness of Tom Brady is that he remains so humble. Everyone watching the game could see that 95% of the misses were the receivers fault. He is left with pure garbage but he still kept his team in the game. However, Tom doesn’t publicly criticize them. He just acknowledges that he can do better. Greatest of all time.

  14. Win as a team and lose as a team……..theres plenty of blame to pass around for todays film session. All three phases of the game were bad. With that said , lets remember we are 10-2 and in control of our fate unlike most teams. People forget a year ago we were dead and buried after a KC loss on Monday night . Theres alot of football left and the Patriots …as a;lways will be there in the end ……..Go Pats

  15. ch1ggs says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:23 AM
    Pats are desperate. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And desperate throws.

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    10-2 is not desperation………its tied for Conference lead with a month of football left to be played

  16. Patriots fans are the most delusional and fair weather in the league. They proclaim their team has the greatest qb to ever play the game, yet they start leaving the stadium early as soon as the game looks lost. If Brady was as great as they claim why wouldn’t they believe enough in him to stick around till the end? 12th man would never leave early. We are actually loyal supporters no matter what the outcome is looking like. And enough already with the injury excuses. Every team has injuries, it’s just that the patriots injuries are revealing the complete and utter lack of depth on their roster. They haven’t drafted well and this is the result.

    Other teams fans envy our players. Other teams players envy our fans.
    #12manisheretostay

  17. As an Eagles fan, I don’t see how you can pin this loss on Brady. Granted, the pick 6 was a bad decision, but it was also a weird tipped ball. The other pick was NOT Brady’s fault in any sense. It was a bad route by La-Fail.

    Oh, and make no mistake, we true Birds fans don’t think anything is fixed. The offense was still mediocre, and we scored two TD’s on special teams…and another on a pick. Nice win, but I won’t even remotely begin to believe in this team until they win a playoff game.

  18. OMG The Pats lost two games in a row for the first time in 56 game!! Call the Fat Lady!

    Really?

    Offense was fine. INTs happen. Still, 4 TD game.
    Defense was great. 21 points happened when they were not on the field.
    Special Teams hope they got held after the game and were made to do burpies until they puked.

  19. Dude cries more than a 10 year old girl. Looks for and EXPECTS a flag on every play because god forbid the pats fumble or drop a pass. I don’t know how people can say he has class when he is constantly screaming and blaming the refs.

    Dudes is a turd wrapped in glitter.

  20. Your just like any other QB in the league who has average O line and average Wr’s.
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    Sooo….all these “average” QBs are throwing for 300+ yards and 3 TDs, and running for another?

  21. The first “better decision” is to stop targeting LaFell.

    Chandler stepped up both his routes and his catching yesterday, and Amendola was solid. I’d like to see more dump passes to James White as well — there were flashes of Dion Lewis in him yesterday.

    I don’t know if Special Teams just got complacent or unlucky yesterday…but that was realllllllllllly uncharacteristic and needs to be corrected immediately.

  22. Say what you will about the Patriots and Brady….but they own up to mistakes and realize where they went wrong in the gameplan and don’t blame the loss on outside factors.

  23. In his defense his offensive line didn’t do him any favors. He was hit and sacked constantly. The Eagles could have had 10 sacks if they just wrapped him up every time they had his jersey.

  24. I knew we would lose after that terrible drop kick. You’re up 14-0 so you pull some stunt that has zero chance of success but a big chance of enraging the other team? Just play the game. I blame the coaches for that awful call.

  25. I am a Pats fan …….never one to complain over injuries and who is and is not available but IMO they are at a crisis point.

    If they lose to Houston they may not be able to right the ship. The line is in full disarray and Tom can not continue to take the beating he is taking. Historically his accuracy depends on a clean pocket, something he rarely sees anymore. With Jules and Gronk out for the foreseeable future and no running game to speak of, we are now in the “chuck it up” 60 times per game mode.

    I had a bad feeling about Philly from the get go, ditto for the Texans…..we are as close to MUST WIN as we have been in quite a while.

  26. Brady has only lost 2 in a row 5 times in his career. Patriots fans have definitely been lucky. The only positive I can take from this that it was better now then the playoffs. They were still riding last years success through most of this year and almost pulled out the win in Denver. This game reset expectations a bit. They aren’t currently good enough to win in the playoffs. That crappy game could have easily happened in the first round of the playoffs. At least they have a chance to right the ship now.

  27. “Brady threw a pair of interceptions at or in the end zone, one of which Malcolm Jenkins returned for an interception that gave the Eagles their first lead. ”
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    Cool he was able to return the interception for an interception. How many points is that worth in the NFL?

  28. ironyisadeadscene says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:38 AM

    Haha, these reactions are priceless. Reminds me of the comments after the KC game last year….and then the Pats won the Super Bowl….dummies

    ————

    Got to be cautious with that. The KC game was early in the season. After that the Patriots only lost one real game @GB to a great team. They had a 4 game stretch late in the season where they won every game against reasonable competition by and average of 24.25 points. They were on a roll.

    At the moment the Patriots need to quickly find themselves again. Usually a loss would be enough, but I think after the streak was broken, their spirits were a bit broken too. Back to the drawing board with a quarter of the season to fix it. Just getting Gronk and Edelman back won’t fix the OLine or the big mistakes on special teams from the last 2 weeks. They just need all around better play. If they don’t fix it they won’t get a bye and they will back into the playoffs. Not good.

    Disappointing for Patriots fans, but when things go perfectly it doesn’t usually end well for the Patriots. This kind of adversity seems to be needed. We’ll see how they respond.

  29. People still making jokes about deflated balls…incredible. Obviously a lot of you guys follow current events and league developments very closely.

  30. axesbluestar says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:38 AM

    Your just like any other QB in the league who has average O line and average Wr’s.
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    Sooo….all these “average” QBs are throwing for 300+ yards and 3 TDs, and running for another?
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    When you throw it 56 times and the defense is playing prevent most of the 4th quarter, yes.

  31. tvguy22 says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:13 AM

    The Patriots are the only team in the league with injuries, right?

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    Since this post is about the Patriots, we are talking about the Patriots injuries. Of course all teams have injuries and some teams, like Dallas, were completely devastated by injury. The Patriots are still 10-2. Can’t complain about that.

    What did Brady say? They have to find a way to win with the team they have. No excuses.

    For Patriots fans we know that if Hightower, Edelman and Gronk are all out then the team just isn’t good enough to win consistently, so of course Patriots fans hope those guys come back.

  32. “If I turn the ball over twice, I don’t think we’re going to have the chance to win many games, so I think that’s what it comes down to.”
    ____________________

    That’s leadership and owning it yet the hateroids are out in force.

  33. tonyzendejas says:
    Dec 7, 2015 10:05 AM
    People still making jokes about deflated balls…incredible. Obviously a lot of you guys follow current events and league developments very closely.

    _________

    Wonder why people do that???

  34. AKA I need to find another way to cheat without being caught, but if I do get caught I need a way to get out of it again, is what he meant, thanks I’ll be here all day #brady*

  35. Maybe he had the wrong wristband on? Those plays are hard to memorize when you’ve only been in the same system for such a short period of time. Dunce.

  36. Time to turn up the cheating! Need to go back to the drawing board and figure out some more ways to game the system.

  37. TB will always take the blame but there was plenty to go around in this game. Special teams was awful.

    Was there any upside to that drop kick at all? Did that play get phoned in from the twilight zone?

  38. I’m waiting for the sports media to air a two hour special on how injuries have hobbled new england .

  39. I agree with Brady that he has to make better decisions with the football,but- it doesn’t help when guys like Brandon LaFell don’t finish their routes or drop every other pass coming their way. The O-line stinks right now too. They should have beaten this team easily,but Philly showed up to play,especially the defense. They deserved the W.

  40. 3 straight cold weather games, 3 straight sloppy, inaccurate performances by Tom Brady with fully inflated footballs which feature multiple drops by receivers.

    Is there even one single Pats fan who can still deny that he was part of a scheme to deflate footballs, and that it gave Brady and the Pats a significant advantage over the last 8 years? Is anybody still deperate enough to deny that?

  41. Brady looked average without his top guns but the bullets he did have let him down. There were more drops then I’ve seen from that team in a long time. Edelman and Gronk don’t drop too many. But as an Eagles fan the team was due to show up. They have been getting killed in the local media. Called out for quitting on the coach. They banded together and stole a game. When your offense only has 245 yards those return TD’s were the difference. Brady is now very PO’d I feel sorry for the Texans. They will get rolled. Don’t see the Pats losin’ 3 in a row.

  42. The fact is that NE (even with Gronk) is just an average team. Not to be mean, just being honest. The entire strategy was predicated on opposing defenses being constantly on the field and eventually getting tired. That’s what happened when they played the Bills and Cowboys.

  43. By the way, Belichick’s decision to onside kick up 14 to 0 and failing pretty much opened the flood gates on them yesterday. 35 straight unanswered points by the Eagles.

  44. Well at least Shady Brady did not blame the officials or ALL the injuries or some other lame excuses.

  45. Brady said the team has to “find ways to adjust”
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    In other words: We will have to “find new ways to cheat since we keep getting caught with our old ways.”

  46. What a great and perfect week to show that Air-Run Rodgers is a million times better than this overrated cheating turd.

  47. Any given Sunday folks 🙂

    #ThatIsAll
    #NotWorriedOneTeenyTinyBit
    #TeeHeeICantWaitToGloatInPatriotHatersFace

  48. I thought the Patriots were supposed to have 9,000 fumbles by now?

    #WhatHappenedPatriotHater
    #MaybeWeAreJustBetterAndAlwaysWillBe
    #ActuallyThereIsNoMaybe

    🙂

  49. See kids? It does help when the visiting team has their locker room swept for bugs at the Cheaters stadium.

  50. After these two losses where the Pats lost with their JV lineup, I think it is clear that they will never win another game…….just kidding, they will beat Arizona in the Superbowl.

  51. The fact is that NE (even with Gronk) is just an average team. Not to be mean, just being honest.

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    I’ve been hearing this since 2003.
    Talent and athleticism maybe- But, its how you use the talent that matters. That a team can be as depleted as the Pats are right now–and that is legit since they have the second most players on IR ATM, and still keep winning/keep games close…just shows how average they are.

  52. I’m just sooooo happy that the Cheaters will not have a perfect season which they never ever deserve in a million years.
    4 time SB Sinners.

  53. His wr’s are finding these inflated balls harder to catch. Weird how that works.
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    1. His two best receivers are on the sideline.
    2. Even the biggest science denier among you realizes that balls lose air pressure in the cold, yes? If you were going to doctor the balls for cold weather, you would ADD air.
    3. Yesterday was really not that cold, btw.

    Weird how that works.

  54. Pats fan here, and of course disappointed they lost yesterday, but reading the comments here have lifted my spirits.

    It’s amazing how many people’s lives revolve around disparaging the Patriots every chance they get.

    : )

  55. Patriots should win every game on that weak schedule.. Look at the Patriots schedule! I never seen an easier schedule in the history of The NFL. They got to play Steelers early but that was with no Big Ben. Patriots got the 2 easiest divisions to play in NFL EAST and AFC SOUTH.. What is REALLY happening here is everybody thought Pats were so dominate because they been destroying very very bad teams. Patriots are an average team. Average teams lose against poor teams sometimes and that’s why they lost against The Eagles…
    The Pats will get into playoffs obviously since they play in a weak division every year but they won’t go far. If they don’t get 1st seed that means they will have to play a team like Steelers

  56. 4. Pats are 10-2, tied for the AFC lead, winning the division, and Brady threw for 3 touchdowns and over 300 yards with a practice squad offense around him.

  57. It was mature to accept leadership but that said it was a deflated Tom these last two games that probably will reap what we all must accept in subsequent lies or deceit in other related matters ? Please note young man the conscience bears witness not any court of law and it catches up with a person after a while . In life do to our personal actions and human behavior Nothing stays the same.

  58. I also find it funny when the Patriots point to game week ~4 last year when they try and defend their loses. It’s not always how you lose, but when you lose. Are the Eagles a better team than the Texans? Absolutely not. You don’t think Bill O’Brien wants to go all-out Josh McDaniels on BB and Brady? One thing I can always say about NE is they have never actually backed into the playoffs. They are hot in December every year, it’s just a matter of them running into a team that’s hotter or not. This year, they lose a “Signature” game against a backup QB in Brock Osweiller, and then follow it up by being terrible in 3 phases of the game against a team that had “quit”. Like I said, nobody can take the AFC East away from them, but that’s about all they will win come January.

  59. It was mature to accept leadership but that said it was a deflated Tom these last two games that probably will reap what we all must accept in subsequent lies or deceit in other related matters ? Please note young man the conscience bears witness in all matters ,not in any court of law and it catches up with a person after a while one way or another . Truth is In life do to our personal actions and human behavior, ” Nothing” stays the same.We move ahead with Truth or carry a burden always.

  60. Dear Tom Girly:

    How does it feel to throw properly deflated, I mean inflated balls?

    Your thoughts? ****
    **********************************************
    Good question….It feels like 31 TD’s/6 INT’s 3500+ yards, 100+ QB rating and a 10-2 record. Not bad for a 38 year old. Next question?

  61. Massive amounts of ignorance around here.

    Brady is a class guy who stands up and takes responsibilityfor his mistakes and doesn’t mention the special teams errors and dropped passes. (8 drops out of 37 catchable passes per Pro Football Focus)

    All the venom must be jealously.

    HTTR

  62. jchipwood says:
    Dec 7, 2015 11:16 AM

    Two weeks in a row “best qb in history” couldn’t get the job done when game was on the line.
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    No one, except for the haters, ever said he was perfect.

    He still does pretty good even with all of the injuries to his receivers.

  63. weepingjebus says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:49 AM

    I knew we would lose after that terrible drop kick. You’re up 14-0 so you pull some stunt that has zero chance of success but a big chance of enraging the other team? Just play the game. I blame the coaches for that awful call.

    —————-

    That was horrible. I guess the logic was to go for a dagger shot. That is not the first time they tried it. I believe they did it against Washington too. It worked, but they didn’t score on that drive anyway.

    I think kicking it into the empty space can be a good idea as a surprise, especially with a good returner, but why do it when up 14 against a team that was previously struggling? Don’t get it. The Patriots woke them up when they were just about to pack it in.

  64. Not a great game from Brady. It happens. It has happened to Aaron Rodgers this year. It happened to Joe Montana back in the day. It used to happen to Bret Favre all the time. Own the loss and move on. Even a bad team like the Eagles is comprised of professional athletes. Guys like that can rise up on any given Sunday. Otherwise we wouldn’t bother to watch the games. Seriously, it sucks to lose but the amount of excuse-mongering online is a sorry sight and the only thing more pathetic is amount of gloating going down.

  65. The haters are so weak. 10-2 and the wheels are flying off…10-2 sooo desperate….TB is not any good….only 4 superbowls….these are the whiners…. Lets talk after the Superbowl, while your guys are playing golf. And steelerfandanjo…Big Ben did not deflate footballs…he broke the LAW….assaulted a girl in the bathroom while his buddies stood guard….think I would rather have TB12… Oh and remember it was the headset that lost the game for the Steelers…talk about whining….

  66. Can we let go of the cheating crap and just talk about the game? Yes,the Patriots stunk yesterday. No doubt about it,but the cheating and “deflategate” stuff is so played out… The Pats have injuries like every other team,but are they making excuses? No,they aren’t. They were awful yesterday. Brady owned it, Belichick owned it,and the rest of the guys owned it. They gave the Eagles the credit they deserved. Why isn’t that ever enough? We’re on to Houston.

  67. Brady’s numbers on a bad day because of fully inflated footballs in cold weather according to all the extremely intelligent commentators on this forum:

    – 312 passing yards
    – 3 TD
    – 1 ‘rushing’ TD
    – 2 interceptions

    I’m sure a lot of QBs in this league wish they could put together a day as bad as the one Brady had!!!

    He was not the problem, special teams and some questionable coaching were the major factors in this game.

    The Eagles played the game that was there to play brilliantly and congrats on the win.

    Tough game coming up, they all are…let’s get back to basics and ‘fix’ that OL.

  68. @paulrevere

    Actually, I think it is you Patriot fans that make the other visitors of these threads the happiest. It’s like being a fan of NE is another religion, and damn those that slander thy name. I want to see core economic statistics from the Boston area after Tom Brady retires. Mass exodus of “Patriot fans” leaving the area, crusading to find the next bandwagon to hop on to. They should make a movie about it, and Will Smith should play Tom Brady.

  69. Tom Brady is a has been, he’s washed up, he needs to retire so that the rest of the AFC east can get some of the glory… Sincerely the rest of the AFC East…

  70. seahawksfansince2013 says:
    Patriots fans are the most delusional and fair weather in the league. They proclaim their team has the greatest qb to ever play the game, yet they start leaving the stadium early as soon as the game looks lost. If Brady was as great as they claim why wouldn’t they believe enough in him to stick around till the end? 12th man would never leave early. We are actually loyal supporters no matter what the outcome is looking like. And enough already with the injury excuses.
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    Leave it to a still bitter 12 to criticize another team’s fanbase. Even Pats fans can’t stand the brie eating corporate types and pink hats sitting in the club seats and lower bowl. While 12’s cheer their team on in a publicly financed stadium with an average premium ticket price of $189.74 privately financed Gillette’s premium seats average $566.67, the highest in the league and it’s not even close. Who do you think is sitting there? Don’t equate the lobster tail and brie crowd with real fans.

    I split upper level season tickets with my brother our per game ticket cost for nose bleed seats is close to what PREMIUM seating costs at CenturyLink. I guarantee you those seats stayed full to the final gun as well.

  71. My weekly prophesied reminder after the Bills game to all these chowder heads crying yummy tasty chowder tears…

    “kenchun24 says:
    Nov 24,2015 12:44pm

    One and doneskies. Only so many o-line and offensive skill position injuries an offense can take.

    Not even the Giants 4 Year Prophecy can save this team. Bills D was playing chess, Shady Brady was playing horsehoes with like 15 quit pass plays, turf tossed after 1 second sometimes. Their creampuff schedule playing a slew of weak sauce QB’s showed how creampuff there 10-0 was.

    FAR more impressed with the Panthers, Cards, Bengals, even the Broncos with their #1 D now that their offense has a chance with Osweiler over INT laden Peyton. All these teams are far more battle tested vs. who they have played and won/or loss too than the creampuff Patsies. And the darkhorse Steeler team offense may be the best in the AFC period.

    Bottom line, One and Donetriots EASY.”

    That 100 yard pick 6 INT TD return from Uggz to Malcolm Jenkins was sooooo pretty. Yummy chowder pick 6’es taste so good.

  72. And now Billy Boy is in the news for manhandling a female ref? Oh, the karma! Thank you football gods!

  73. And steelerfandanjo…Big Ben did not deflate footballs…he broke the LAW….assaulted a girl in the bathroom while his buddies stood guard….think I would rather have TB12…
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    Easy Tonto. Don’t forget Saint Tom was caught with ben Affleck’s personal nanny in Tommy’s private jet.

  74. rabidbillsfan says:
    Dec 7, 2015 11:51 AM

    @paulrevere

    Actually, I think it is you Patriot fans that make the other visitors of these threads the happiest. It’s like being a fan of NE is another religion, and damn those that slander thy name. I want to see core economic statistics from the Boston area after Tom Brady retires. Mass exodus of “Patriot fans” leaving the area, crusading to find the next bandwagon to hop on to. They should make a movie about it, and Will Smith should play Tom Brady.

    ————
    Sold out every game in Foxboro since 1994. Unlike the Bills who have needed corporate ticket bailouts to avoid blackouts in recent years, WE sell out legit.

    So I wouldn’t count on that happening. 🙂

  75. The greatest of all time had his one major flaw exposed again yesterday. When he does not trust his receivers he panics and forces throws. Amendola was blanketed on that pick six. He makes down field throws looking for the home run when there is nothing there. He has always had this problem, he is not perfect. He doesn’t have much Favre in him. He still hasn’t learned to be patient and manage his offense when he doesn’t have his binkies. McDaniels has got to take responsibility for his management when this situation arises also.

  76. Seachicken fans saying any other fan base is fair-weather is hilarious.

    Boston IS sports. Good or bad. You think the fan base has walked away from the Sox? Bruins? Celtics?
    Nope. Still sell out almost every game. Still get good TV ratings too.

    Did the 49er fan base disappear after Young retired? Dallas fans after the Troy and Emmett years?
    Please.

    Happy you have someone to cheer for now. That’s awesome. Remember up until 6 years ago most of the US forgot you had a team.

  77. Funny how for some QBs they get the praise for making their pass catchers better and their team better. When they lose their bad play gets a pass – look at who he is playing with out there.

  78. Anyone who says that Belichick touched Thomas?

    He dis not actually touch Thomas.
    Doing so would be a penalty as it’s illegal for a coach to make “unnecessary physical contact with game officials.”

    He was careful to not touch her as he demonstrated how an Eagle player grabbed a Patriot and pulled him down.

    Stop lying.

  79. i am not a pats fan, but what are they doing? Tom is NOT a great qb, he has built a legacy on a high school playbook. Quick slants and screen passes of no more than 7 yds. Two step drops and quickly getting rid of the ball. Never has to read through progressions, no footwork needed, never has to take hits or deal with pressure. If u make him think about who to throw it to and give the defense ANY time to pressure him then he isnt even a top 15 qb. He was drafted 6th rd for a reason- he just isnt great. His receivers and their YAC yds after he throws his high percentage passes has made his career. No qb in the game throws more ‘safe’ passes than him and the Pats are always at the top of the list for YAC yds. Tom doesnt get credit for a rushing play after he hands the ball off, he shouldnt get 60yds pass credit when he throws a 3 yd slant that the receiver takes 57 yds. Over the last 12 yrs he BARELY cracks the top 50 in yds per attempt IN THE AIR. The dude throws passes some guys on this thread can make, then the receivers make him look good.

  80. RegisHawk says:
    What a coincidence…it appears that in an outside cold-weather game, Brady has accuracy issues…I wonder if there could be any contributing factors…
    ____________

    Perfect football weather, 44° clear in Foxboro yesterday. Poor judgement trying to force the ball to an inadequate receiving core absent a running game might have had an inpact

  81. tagtak2000 says:
    Dec 7, 2015 11:48 AM

    In real life Big Ben is worse, but we are talking about football. And as far as Goodell is concerned and as far as football fans are concerned- deflating footballs is tarnishing the game and cheating. I think ben should be in jail, and i think brady should be banned from the league (minimum 1 yr suspension). In the grand scheme of things- yes big ben is worse, but we are talking football here.

  82. Karma Patriots fans – accept it

    You’re 10-2

    It’s obvious Brady must have rolled through a Stop sign at some point

    I just wish we could figure out what the heck the Jets did to not get close to the Super Bowl for 43 years – not to mention all the teams who are doing far worse than the Patriots

    That’s some seriously bad karma at work. Did they kill someone?

  83. “Two weeks in a row “best qb in history” couldn’t get the job done when game was on the line.”

    Last week he drove down the field against the best D in the league to tie the game while missing his top 4 receiver options.

    This week he got beat up and made some mistakes no doubt, but the special teams let up two touchdowns, and he still lead a furious comeback attempt. Hell, his last drive ended with 3 very catchable balls going off his receivers hands….

  84. skinnylegspeytonmanning says:
    And now Billy Boy is in the news for manhandling a female ref? Oh, the karma! Thank you football gods!
    ______________

    Except the film shows he had his hands above her shoulders with no contact demonstrating how a defender was grabbed by both shoulders and tossed to the ground without a flag. Sorry to interupt with facts, I know they never matter to a hateroid

  85. “i am not a pats fan, but what are they doing? Tom is NOT a great qb, he has built a legacy on a high school playbook. Quick slants and screen passes of no more than 7 yds. Two step drops and quickly getting rid of the ball. Never has to read through progressions, no footwork needed, never has to take hits or deal with pressure.”

    Tom Brady has been sacked 29 times this year, 9th in the league, and the only reason it’s not more is because he’s so quick and accurate with the ball. It’s no surprise Brady has been getting hit so much the last few weeks; he’s lost Edelman, Lewis and Gronk – all guys who can get open quick.

    As for the high school playbook – how many veteran WRs just couldn’t cut it in NE because of the complicated playbook? They run a complicated offense in which receivers have multiple options dependent upon what the D shows pre-snap, and also how well the D-Backs are covering. So Brady’s not only progressing through each his receivers, but he’s also make reads based on what route he believes the receiver will take. For example, on the TD to Chandler, Brady made the read and threw the ball before Chandler even made his break – i.e., he read what he would do before Chandler even knew he was going to do it.

    Lastly, did you even bother to watch that game? Brady threw at least 2 or 3 20+ yard dimes during that game ON THE RUN. His footwork was incredible at times during that game.

    You simply don’t know what you’re talking about….

  86. footballfanatic says:
    i am not a pats fan, but what are they doing? Tom is NOT a great qb, he has built a legacy on a high school playbook.
    _________________

    Sooo…for 15 years opposing D coordinators have not been able to shut down this high school QB?

  87. Cold weather, properly inflated footballs, increase in turnovers. Coincidence? Thinks that make you go hmmm.
    ———————————————–

    New Englanders consider 50 degree temps in Dec warm weather.
    properly inflated footballs all season and yet in 12 games so far able to throw average of 300+ yrds per game with 11 turnovers all season and over 450 passes thrown. Just like last season. or the last 14 seasons. Yeah must be the footballs.
    It must have something to do with the NFL’s PSI scam.
    Guess what even Tom Brady can have a bad game.

  88. Brady overthrows Lafell and forces a throw to Amendola that gets tipped and it all stems back to ball pressure.

    No possible way it’s tied to 25% of his sacks happening the past 2 weeks.

    Hmmm …. indeed.

  89. I am amazed at how many people don’t like Brady on here. What has he ever done to deserve such vitriol? Look, he is humble and always has been. This next part is going to sound bad but I don’t mean it to be a slight at him.

    He is a backup from Michigan. He knows that. He knows he isn’t very accurate past 10 yards. He knows he is arguably the luckiest QB in the history of the game because of the team he is on. BB is (in my opinion) the greatest coach of all time. Might not like his methods but as a Colts Fan we have had far more talent than the Pats over the last 15 years and haven’t had near the success because of coaching. Brady’s offense is set up to let him throw 4 yard passes to WR on dig or arrow routes after going in motion to make sure they aren’t pressed. And he is AMAZING at that. He is the GOAT at game management, again, don’t mean that as a slam on him. Their style wins games (and Championships) because it doesn’t matter who is in there (including Matt Cassel). You don’t need RBs you can get rid of it quick so Oline shouldn’t be an issue.

    To Tom, look man. You are great. Stop trying to force things. Throw your 4 yard routes and let them run. You don’t need a RB or a deep threat (Moss has been gone for years). Don’t try to change anything. Your short passes wins you Super Bowls. Get back to it!!

    Sign,
    Colts Fan

  90. footballfanatic says:
    Dec 7, 2015 12:25 PM
    i am not a pats fan, but what are they doing? Tom is NOT a great qb, he has built a legacy on a high school playbook.
    —————————————————————–

    Brady and the Patriots have been to 9 AFC Championships, 6 Superbowls with 4 wins so what difference does it make whether he’s a great QB or not? The Patriots win a lot and isn’t that the point of the game?

  91. Look at all the clowns declaring the Patriots down for the count because they lost two games this season.

    I recall the same kind of talk last season when they lost a few games.

    How did that work out?

  92. Pats fans can’t figure out why nobody likes their prima donna QB that’s cheated his entire career.
    Here’s a clue, people hate frauds and that’s exactly what the NE Patriots are.

  93. Regarding the poster above remarking that Brady complains for calls. That’s the NFL culture and everyone does it. Until they make it a penalty, it will continue. I wish they would make it a penalty. Receivers mostly, and QBs, are lobbying the refs every play for a call. Lobbying should be a 5 yard penalty.

  94. Actually it was the defense that really didn’t show up. Hey when Philly can put a lick on you like that, and your scoring mega points with so so guys, its the D the failed yesterday, play and simple.

  95. mototax says:
    Dec 7, 2015 1:18 PM

    We’re waiting for you in Houston. Gonna be fun!

    —–
    Indeed.

    Lots of Patriot connections down there. 🙂 Looking forward to see how big Vince does….

  96. What happened to “next man up “??… All Bill does is plug in another player and they keep on rolling … That stuff won’t cut it forever …. Tommy is not the GOAT ( Montana)… He’s 38 and it’s starting to show … O-line is weak , pick plays don’t work so well without the little toy wideouts … No Gronkowski may be a big hole to fill but Pro Bowlers get hurt every year deal with it…. I’ve said it before NE and their cheesy little empire is crumbling right in front of you…. To the clowns that think the last 2 weeks are the same as KC loss last year mmmm WRONG… October is NOT December ….

  97. immafubared says:
    Dec 7, 2015 1:30 PM
    Actually it was the defense that really didn’t show up. Hey when Philly can put a lick on you like that, and your scoring mega points with so so guys, its the D the failed yesterday, play and simple.
    =========
    For crying out loud. Will you at least watch the free viedo highlights before making posts like this? Philly got 2 Td off STs and another on defense. Only 14 of their points were scored by the offense. D failed yesterday … shakes head.

  98. Cranespy:

    I hear you. But would you feel that way if there had been excellent special teams’ play as there usually is?

    cranespy says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:50 AM
    I am a Pats fan …….never one to complain over injuries and who is and is not available but IMO they are at a crisis point.

    If they lose to Houston they may not be able to right the ship. The line is in full disarray and Tom can not continue to take the beating he is taking. Historically his accuracy depends on a clean pocket, something he rarely sees anymore. With Jules and Gronk out for the foreseeable future and no running game to speak of, we are now in the “chuck it up” 60 times per game mode.

    I had a bad feeling about Philly from the get go, ditto for the Texans…..we are as close to MUST WIN as we have been in quite a while.

  99. rutledge3197 says:
    Dec 7, 2015 1:33 PM

    What happened to “next man up “??… All Bill does is plug in another player and they keep on rolling …
    —————————-

    Eventually he will run out of players, which is starting to happen.

  100. The on-side kick at 14-0, the on-side kick at 35-28 with 3 minutes to go and the bad running play at the 1 yard line (-4 yards, then the 99 yards INT)…

    Three bad calls from the sideline. The 2 on-side kicks gave short fields. They were lucky to recover the ball with few seconds to play, it should have been a 3 pts FG. And that -4 yards run… come on, QB Sneak! Brady is the best at it!

    That was “Seahawks-at-the-superbowl coaching”…

  101. wensink18 says:

    After these two losses where the Pats lost with their JV lineup, I think it is clear that they will never win another game…….just kidding, they will beat Arizona in the Superbowl.
    ———————————————————-
    Neither one of those teams will catch a whiff of the Super Bowl.

  102. factman66 says:
    Dec 7, 2015 1:24 PM

    Pats fans can’t figure out why nobody likes their prima donna QB that’s cheated his entire career.
    Here’s a clue, people hate frauds and that’s exactly what the NE Patriots are.
    ————————-

    People don’t like them because their teams usually always lose to them.

    It’s always easier to blame someone else for your team’s ineptitude. That’s just human nature.

  103. Giants fan checking in (and it sucks to be a Giants fan today). The Patriots will be fine. They will get healthier and they will be fine. But they need to cut James White asap. He gets tackled by a slight breeze. He should have scored on his 24 yard catch and run. Had he scored there would not have been the 100 yard pick 6. Almost any other player would have scored. He didn’t even look like he tried to score. I knew the Patriots were going to lose right there. I know he had a good game statistically. But he was dreadful.

  104. From a Patriots fan perspective, lets hope the Steelers beat Cincy and Cincy beats Denver and the Patriots can win out.

    That’s about the best remaining scenario. Maybe Denver loses at Pitt too, but doubtful they will lose 2 at the moment.

    It would be nice if either Cincy or Denver could lose 2. Preferably Denver.

    Worst case Denver wins out and Cinci only loses to Denver. That could move the Patriots to 3rd seed if they lose a game.

    The Patriots really can’t afford to blow @Hou. They may lose the @Jets game, so if they blow the @Hou the bye will likely go bye bye.

  105. osiris33 says:
    Dec 7, 2015 2:04 PM

    wensink18 says:

    After these two losses where the Pats lost with their JV lineup, I think it is clear that they will never win another game…….just kidding, they will beat Arizona in the Superbowl.
    ———————————————————-
    Neither one of those teams will catch a whiff of the Super Bowl.
    ——————————-

    Well, then who will be playing the Panthers in the Super Bowl?

  106. Duhh we aren’t the only team in the league with injuries but are other teams missing a Rob Gronkowski? a Donte Hightower? a Julian Edelman? a Dion Lewis? a Nate Solder? We aren’t missing 2nd stringers, were missing a handful of stars.

    You need talent to win in this league last time i checked, its not an excuse just facts.

    Taking nothing away from the Eagles though, they played great and they deserved to win.

  107. rutledge3197 says:

    I’ve said it before NE and their cheesy little empire is crumbling right in front of you….
    ____________________________

    Nice to know being the defending Superbowl champions with a 10-2 record = crumbling.

    By my count, there are 28 teams that wish they were “crumbling” as much as the Patriots.

  108. RegisHawk says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:19 AM

    What a coincidence…it appears that in an outside cold-weather game, Brady has accuracy issues…I wonder if there could be any contributing factors…
    —————————–
    brady has receiver issues, as in ‘catch the damn ball! run the correct routes!’ receiver issues, but that’s not what lost the game, not even his pick 6, it was the 14 points in the kicking game and that stupid drop kick that lost this one.

  109. jmac1013 says:
    Dec 7, 2015 9:14 AM
    In sports terms, I hate the patriots. I hate Tom Brady.

    But is there any other QB that could have done as much with so little as Brady did yesterday?

    Yes, he had the pick-six. But he had them in the game until the end.

    Signed,
    Eagles Fan
    ————–

    I’m also an Eagles fan and there’s an irony here. Do I really have to say the person’s name? Hint his jersey was 5.

  110. mototax says:
    Dec 7, 2015 1:18 PM
    We’re waiting for you in Houston. Gonna be fun!
    ===================================

    yeah, after two losses they will be fun to take on.

    btw it was so warm yesterday in NE, I mowed the lawn.

  111. Has there ever been a QB that has done so much with so little?

    Brady has two HOF receivers, the refs and an illegal ball.

    Flacco has no receivers, never the refs and a legal ball.

    Flacco has done way more with less than Brady.

    Brady is an average QB throwing dinks and dunks to TEs that can mostly get away with pushing off to create separation, added with Edelman, Welker, etc.

  112. Receivers are dropping balls..

    Hmmm..a deflated ball is easier to catch

    Brady isn’t as accurate…

    Hmm…a deflated ball is easier to throw especially in cold weather

    Well now we know.

  113. Wonder who the Ravens will draft next year swag. Should be in the top 5-10. Let’s get to work.

  114. Hope it’s someone as valuable as Perriman, or anyone else in this yr’s draft. In Oz we trust.

  115. Wow, trolls are fired up!

    2 losses. End of the world.

    See ya in the playoffs. Except for the Giants fans.

  116. Has there ever been a QB that has done so much with so little?

    Brady has two HOF receivers, the refs and an illegal ball.

    Flacco has no receivers, never the refs and a legal ball.

    Flacco has done way more with less than Brady.

    Brady is an average QB throwing dinks and dunks to TEs that can mostly get away with pushing off to create separation, added with Edelman, Welker, etc.


    35-31 🙂

    Remember that. And remember who beat you. Remember it and let it sting.

    That’s the last memory you’ll have of the Ravens being any good until the 2020’s.

    🙂

  117. Today is like New Years Eve and the 4th of July all rolled into one for trolls.

    Waited 10 weeks to break out the deflated ball comments. Hooray!!!

    Eagles scored on 3 returns, some teams don’t get three returns all year let alone all in one game. Give them credit made all the plays they needed to make.

    Now about these posts, so many unintentional funny comments. My favorite has to be the Seattle fan calling out the NE fans for leaving early. Isn’t that the same team fans that left the NFC Championship game after Russell’s 4 th pick? Hilarious !

  118. the funny thing is the eagles are not very good. def gave up 40+ in back to back games to a rookie and matt stafford. Brady made that defense look like world beaters.

    Brady has no receivers? Alot of QBs would love to have lafell and amendola. Brady does more with less right? wrong.

    bottom line is what everyone already knows. brady sucks without gronk.

  119. Now about these posts, so many unintentional funny comments. My favorite has to be the Seattle fan calling out the NE fans for leaving early.

    —-
    The board name of that “Seattle fan” tells me they’re not really a Seahawks fan.

    🙂

  120. STILLlolatpatshaters

    You addressed the patriots fans selling out every game since 1994. You went on to say the Bills need corporate help to sell out games.

    Your last post talked about funny comments yours is right up there!

    Let’s make some comparisons and include the facts shall we?

    First Patriots have had winning seasons the Bills have not – with a poor product fan base still has sell outs

    Next seating capacity Gillette 68,726 vs Ralph Wilson which is now 71,870 but was 80,020 until recently remodeled to present seating

    Next population of city and surrounding suburbs Foxborough/Boston 8,090,575 now Buffalo and surrounding 1,213,668 almost an 8:1 edge for Patriots

    The last comment was corporate help, your right there has been a few time that Russel Salvadore personally buys then donated to charity

    So I’m asking the general public who really has the more supportive fans New England or Buffalo?

  121. STILLlolatpatshaters

    Last comment, do I and every other Bills fan want the Kelly era to return which is quite similar to your Brady era? Hell ya but until those glory days do return you can still count on the Buffalo fans having the Bills back.

  122. helmetcatch says:
    Dec 7, 2015 6:47 PM
    the funny thing is the eagles are not very good. def gave up 40+ in back to back games to a rookie and matt stafford. Brady made that defense look like world beaters.

    Brady has no receivers? Alot of QBs would love to have lafell and amendola. Brady does more with less right? wrong.

    bottom line is what everyone already knows. brady sucks without gronk.

    —————————-

    9 AFC Championships game, 6 Superbowls, 4 wins. Who cares whether Brady sucks or not? The whole point of playing football is winning games.

  123. What a kroc from the Bills fan. The entire population of Massachusetts is less than 7 million. Boston, a little over 600k. Bills have at least 20,000 fans bussing in from Canada every weekend, because they can’t draw the local fans. Buffalo’s stadium only holds 3000 more than Foxboro. The Pats have 50,000 people on the season ticket waiting list. I could go on…

  124. Did I read a comment from someone in Buffalo bragging they have more supportive fans than the Patriots.

    Hey, Hugh Grant cheated on Elizabeth Hurley with a working girl. That’s no reflection on Hurley. Nor is it a reflection on a wife when her hubby, who couldn’t get lucky in woman’s prison, stays faithful. The fact that limited cultural opportunities swells the ranks of Bills’ fan’s is actually a little sad.

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