NFL adds another $100 million to St. Louis stadium effort, sort of

AP

Rams owner Stan Kroenke apparently wants to get out of St. Louis. The NFL isn’t in quite the same hurry.

Via multiple reports, the NFL suddenly added another $100 million to the effort to build a new stadium in St. Louis for the Rams, which bridged the gap about which NFL executive V.P. Eric Grubman and Bernie Miklasz of 101 ESPN dueled verbally last week.

Via the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Board of Alderman thereafter approved a financing plan in a preliminary move that will culminate in another vote on Friday.

The quid pro quo for the extra $100 million is this: Taxes collected on ticket sales will be given to the team.

It’s unclear whether and to what extent Kroenke, who is believed to be coveting the chance to move the team to L.A., supports the league’s move to add $100 million to the pot, even if it’s a phantom $100 million.

The broader question is whether the financing plan will keep the Rams from becoming ghosts.

50 responses to “NFL adds another $100 million to St. Louis stadium effort, sort of

  1. The whole LA debate is such a joke. The NFL makes more money and builds more stadiums by dangling the threat of an LA move such that they’ll never actually pull the plug and send a team there. There’s a reason professional football has failed so often in LA. I’m not smart enough to know what that is but I’m sick of these stupid LA relocation stories.

  2. The stadium task force and Saint Louis have done all they can at this point to keep the Rams. If the NFL opts to allow the Rams to move it would be a wakeup call to all the NFL cities that the league will do what it wants regardless of the city’s commitment.

  3. I like how the relocation story is completely ignored on NFL.com

    You wouldn’t even know St. Louis was attempting to build another stadium if you only followed that site.

  4. Why not find an owner/ ownership group that will agree to keep the Rams in St.Louis and part of the purchase agreement, x amount of money on top of the financial agreement with Kroenke has to go towards the financing of a new stadium?

    Let Stan wait it out in Denver .

  5. LA Rams just makes sense. Then the entirety of the NFCW is actually on the West Coast.

    Then the NorCal/SoCal rivalry would be perfected

    Giants/Dodgers (Athletics/Angels to some extent)
    49ers/Rams
    Warriors/Clippers&Lakers
    Sharks/Kings

  6. This is how this plays out, the 100 million will be given to Mark Davis so he can KEEP The Raiders and in exchange Rams will move to Carson with Chargers. Mark my words… This is exactly what will happen

  7. The continuing blackmail of cities by the National Felons League is, frankly, quite nauseating.

    Who cares what Kroenke wants? If it’s a stadium, let him and the NFL pay for it. For one, I would much rather have my tax dollars spent to enhance our highways, parks, care for our elderly, infrastructure, schools and medical care.

    Get off the couch, America! DO something on Sunday afternoons, as opposed to sitting around drinking beer and watching a bunch of grossly overpaid college dropouts running around trying to elude someone else!

  8. $100 million is nothing compared to the increase in the value of the team genereated by moving to L.A.

  9. All I know is they need to move the rams out of the NFC WEST whether they relocate or not teams on the west coast should not have to play important divisional games at 10 am in the morning it’s a HUGE disadvantage to the west coast teams. Why on earth would a team living in the eastern time zone be in the western United States division.

    Selfishly I’m tired of waking up at 8 am to cook some food and get my house ready for guests to watch football. IT’S STUPID and time to realign divisions since atleast one team is moving.

  10. Kroenke wants to bud his own stadium…in LA. It is just that the NFL isn’t letting him for some reason. Just move the Chargers or Raiders or Jaguires if the NFL desires the Ferguson, MO market that much.

  11. Kroenke already bought 60 acres of land in LA. Why is this still being debated? Obviously he’s moving his team.

  12. Stan bought the team to move them. He has a short window to ever see that happen in his lifetime. St. Louis can kiss the Rams goodbye because he is not about to let this opportunity pass and have another team (or two) move to L.A. when he has all that land just ready to build a stadium on.
    Either that or he will take over the franchise moving to L.A. and the old owner of said team will take over the Rams & some cash or they will be sold.
    Billionaires have no loyalty.
    Fans are only sheep willing to buy seat licenses.

  13. If the NFL wants to squeeze every dime they can out of the tax payers just to have a team stay put, I say to hell with them. There’s a finite number of cities that are viable options. If all of the cities stopped bending over backwards for these teams, they could relocate maybe three. But then where would the others go? Duluth?

  14. This setting up to be another Goodell botch job.
    It appears the NFL is going to try to deny the Rams moving back to LA because St. Louis has bitten on the dangling carrot and is now willing to pony up taxpayer money. The mistake will be to force the Chargers on LA, which no one wants them here. Support for the Raiders is substantial y greater, but the NFL is going to force both teams to share a stadium, thus causing conference realignment, which will destroy decades old rivalries. This isn’t going to end up good at all.

  15. This all gets tabled until after 2016 season because the NFL just loves the drama it can create to keep interest through the off-season.
    Brady was last seasons drama.

  16. The Rams just don’t belong in LA. I get the Chargers coming up.. the Raiders have a big fan base down here already.. but the Rams would just not be supported. Heck.. I think the Chargers would have a hard time but we’ll see.

  17. 1. Kroenke wants to move the team to L.A.

    2. Kroenke is willing to build the stadium in L.A. completely on his dime.

    3.If forced to stay in St.Louis he will continue to provide a below average product on the field while making the public fund part of the new stadium.

    I’m sure NONE of the St.Louis area fans/tax payers have any issues with any of this.

  18. “This is how this plays out, the 100 million will be given to Mark Davis so he can KEEP The Raiders and in exchange Rams will move to Carson with Chargers. Mark my words… This is exactly what will happen”
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    LOL. Before asking people to mark your words maybe try reading and comprehending the article. Are you imagining them putting the new St. Louis stadium on a giant flatbed and driving it out to Oakland?

  19. Spanos doesn’t have money to build stadium and move on his own to LA, which does not want the Chargers.

    Same thing can be said about the Raiders and Mark Davis

    Stan Kroenke does have the money, isn’t seeking any financial assistance, and if the NFL tries to stop him from moving he should head straight to the Courts where the NFL will not win. I thought this issue was already settled when Al Davis won when the Court ruled in his favor.

    Rams to Los Angeles

    Raiders and Chargers stay put is how this should play out.

  20. Carson is being prepped for toxic rain runoff because of the up coming El Niño rains and the NFL wants to build its west coast flag ship there? It’s covered in toxic waste WTH are they thinking?

  21. It’s great that an owner (!) is willing to pay for his own stadium. Why he can’t/won’t do it in St. Louis, where his team currently plays, makes it so hypocritical. ”It’s gotta be LA or else” sounds so much like a snotty, spoiled 6-year-old saying, ”Either I’m the quarterback, or I’m taking my football and going home.”

  22. “I’m sure NONE of the St.Louis area fans/tax payers have any issues with any of this”

    I live in the City of St Louis, and I support the new stadium 100%

    The NFL adding money to the project is a great sign.

    I’m hoping the Chargers end up here.

  23. So for those advocating the Chargers/Raiders staying put, what’s your solution for St. Louis? It’s the only city currently with a viable stadium plan.

    Kroenke owns land in LA, yes, but there are rules in the NFL when it comes to relocation. You have to be approved by other owners. And with STL actually stepping up to the plate, abandoning that market is a bad look for the NFL. This is a market that is trending towards building 2 stadiums in 25 years for this league.

    But yeah, keep thinking it’s just as simple as ‘RAMS TO LA/RAIDERS and CHARGERS STAY PUT!’

  24. abninf says:
    Dec 15, 2015 5:43 PM
    Kroenke already bought 60 acres of land in LA. Why is this still being debated? Obviously he’s moving his team.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________
    What about the 200 acres he just purchased in suburban St. Louis?

  25. “Taxes collected on ticket sales will be given to the team.”

    Obviously the St. Louis taxpayers weren’t consulted. I always say, politicians love huge construction projects (like new stadiums) because there’s a lot of opportunities for backroom deals, favors, and all of that graft.

    What people forget is that the NFL owners did not want Georgia Frontiere moving the team to St. Louis and did not “approve” the move until she threatened an antitrust lawsuit against the league. That’s still a viable option/threat if any of the three owners want it.

    With three players and two chairs … someone’s going to expect to be paid off to step out.

  26. How exactly does the NFL give “tax money” to Kroenke? Taxes collected from ticket sales are paid for by the ticket buying public to their local municipalities. NFL never has ownership of those taxes. It’s the City giving the tax money, not the NFL.

    Am I missing something?

  27. lasher1650 says:

    What about the 200 acres he just purchased in suburban St. Louis?
    ——————–
    I’d guess that’s Kroenke hedging is bets.

    Kroenke is almost ready to break ground in on a stadium Inglewood. Site prep is almost complete. His people are negotiating the necessary permits to begin construction. He really, really wants out of St. Louis.

  28. It’s great that an owner (!) is willing to pay for his own stadium. Why he can’t/won’t do it in St. Louis, where his team currently plays, makes it so hypocritical. ”It’s gotta be LA or else” sounds so much like a snotty, spoiled 6-year-old saying, ”Either I’m the quarterback, or I’m taking my football and going home.”

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    St Louis Rams = 32nd ranked in team worth in NFL

    Los Angeles Rams = top 5 ranked in team worth in NFL

  29. I’m shocked at ignorance of some the LA rams fans. They believe kroneke is doing them a favor. He is using ALL of you as pawns. He has a plan b in place for inglewood. They as in the NFL wanted him to appear to be the front runner because they know only st Louis was gonna fork out money.

  30. It’s great that an owner (!) is willing to pay for his own stadium. Why he can’t/won’t do it in St. Louis, where his team currently plays, makes it so hypocritical.

    Remind me to tell you where to go to dinner…and what to eat. Sure, it’s your money, but it would be hypocritical of you to order what you want…

  31. The St. Louis Rams only happened because of the then heiress Georgia Frontiere. The Rams deserve to be back in LA with an owner that has the means to get it all off the ground (unlike Davis and Spanos) and make the NFL successful in LA once again.

    One would think after the 2002 realignment that the NFC West would be better suited with the Rams in LA.

    St. Louis can have the Jaguars since they’re closer to the AFC South teams and it won’t disturb the Chiefs fanbase as much.

    If the NFL screws this up (and I pray they don’t), they may as well lose legitimacy as a league.

  32. Just can’t wait for all of this to be over soon(January 13th).As a St.Louis football fan who has seen one team exit already(The Cardinals in 1988),I feel somewhat positive the Rams will be staying.

  33. BIG RED says:
    Dec 15, 2015 7:39 PM

    “I’m sure NONE of the St.Louis area fans/tax payers have any issues with any of this”

    I live in the City of St Louis, and I support the new stadium 100%

    The NFL adding money to the project is a great sign.
    __________________________________

    Just an FYI, they’re adding money that is being paid back by the city handing over ticket taxes back to the team. It’s not worth it, if the economy tanks again you’re going to be laying off cops and fire fighters to pay for stadium deficits.

  34. bondlake says:
    Dec 15, 2015 5:24 PM

    Get off the couch, America! DO something on Sunday afternoons, as opposed to sitting around drinking beer and watching a bunch of grossly overpaid college dropouts running around trying to elude someone else!
    _____
    And exactly what is wrong with drinking beer?

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