Osweiler or Manning? How about both?

AP

As the Broncos “start from scratch” in their effort to identify a starting quarterback for next Monday night’s game against the Bengals, the overriding question is whether it will be Brock Osweiler or Peyton Manning.

Here’s a thought: Why not both?

The Cardinals did it back in 2007, and rotating Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner worked for the Cardinals until Leinart, who wasn’t thrilled with the arrangement, suffered a season-ending broken collarbone.

It’s unclear whether rotating Osweiler and Manning would make the Denver offense better. Based on their individual performances this year, it can’t get a whole lot worse.

Until he exited the lineup with a foot injury, the Broncos thrived under Manning not because of him but in spite of him. With Osweiler, a promising start has devolved into an offense that can’t score points in the second half. So with no real rhythm under either guy, why not swap them back and forth?

It would be unconventional, to say the least. But the disparity in the styles of the two quarterbacks would impose maximum pressure on an opposing defense forced to prepare not for either of them but for both of them.

And it would be strangely coincidental, to say the least, to see Peyton Manning’s NFL career (or at least his career in Denver) end with the same up-down approach that highlighted the last year of  his chief rival Tom Brady’s college career.

Surely, neither Osweiler nor Manning would like the approach — and we won’t need sources close to either guy to confirm that as part of a “Sunday splash” report that morphs into an unintended belly smacker. But the alternative for one of the two guys will be to not play at all.

And the tactic could end up giving the offense the kind of spark it needs, with coach Gary Kubiak displaying the kind of flexibility and creativity that could cement Denver’s postseason berth, and that also could propel the Broncos deeper into the postseason than they’d get by using either guy exclusively.

60 responses to “Osweiler or Manning? How about both?

  1. Hey, why not dress up a chimp in uniform and having him play QB? As long as we’re making ridiculous stuff up.

  2. If Peyton is healthy enough this is exactly what they are going to try but even IF he is healthy enough (big if) it’s going to be an act of desperation and that almost never works out.

  3. Letting both play will be terrific for Broncos fans. Then after they lose Broncos fans will demand that Peyton and Kubiak HAVE to go, and Brock should NOT be signed long term, and it’s Elway’s fault for building a crappy O-Line, and Dennison is equally to blame.

    And of course who can forget Colquitt.

  4. Smacks of desperation. It’s a circus trick. Much like Brock’s first couple of games, it may pay off until teams figure out how Kubiak is calling the games.

    Fortunately for the Broncos, the Jets have to play the Patriots. However it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the Broncos could lose the division tie breaker to KC and miss the playoffs at 11-5.

  5. 2nd half scoring draughts have to go on the coaching. That last game the Steelers made all the right adjustments. Getting out coached by Tomlin is not a good thing. Also think Brock was hurt right before the half.In fact I’m quite sure he was. They showed him walking to the longer room with his stuck to him like you see when someone breaks their collar bone. He’s been taking a beating. That could be Peyton….

  6. Playing two QBs is a tactic that former Denver Broncos HC Dan Reeves tried with little success. If Kubiak tries this, then it will confirm that he learned more from Reeves than he did Shanahan.

  7. Hey Florio, how about you try that approach with PFT? For each posting, you and MDS can alternate words until you get a fantastic hot mess of a word salad! Sure it’s “unconventional,” but who didn’t like “Mad Libs” as a kid?

  8. I guess someone didn’t get the memo that Peyton Manning is done.

    He set a record in his last game as an NFL quarterback that will never be broken.

    No, not the career passing yards one. The other one. The worst performance by a quarterback ever, at any level, from the Legends Football League on up.

  9. You used “Kubiak”, “creativity”, and “flexibility” in the same sentence. Haahaaahaa!

  10. Osweiler is playing better than Manning, the only difference is the defense is not as good at this point in the season…..how soon we forget that Manning couldn’t score TD in any half and the D had to score for him…..if Manning gets back out there the Broncos will lose and the Jets will be happy…..

  11. No “active” quarterback for any game should ever be standing on the sideline, holding a clipboard. When Jay Cutler “went down” versus Green Bay in the 2011 NFC Conference Final, the Bears could easily have gone on to the Super Bowl versus the Steelers had Caleb Hanie (Cutler’s replacement QB) been “active” (playing) in every regular season game, prior to that matchup versus Green Bay. Instead, when it mattered the mostest, Hanie was like a “deer-in-the-headlights” — and Green Bay went on to win, and Aaron Rodgers became a media darling because Big Ben didn’t make that last-possession TD (sigh).

  12. I understand this will be unpopular… But I dig the idea Florio.

    Innovative idea. Consider this… How many teams play with 3 starting QBs a season? A lot. We have established that neither Peyton nor Brock are going to run the table to the Super Bowl, why not throw conventionality on its head and see if it works?

    Im sure everyone in NC told the Wright Brothers their idea would never work as well. You cant listen to the voices from the peanut gallery if you want to achieve greatness, no one ever became a legend by doing such. When you have nothing left to lose but everything? Heck yeah dude go for it.

  13. let’s see, when Manning is in its either a 5 yard or less pass or a running play, when Ostweiler is in its a at least10yd or more slant, or out, or a draw play…works for me…

  14. No “active” quarterback for any game should ever be standing on the sideline, holding a clipboard. When Jay Cutler “went down” versus Green Bay in the 2011 NFC Conference Final, the Bears could easily have gone on to the Super Bowl versus the Steelers had Caleb Hanie (Cutler’s replacement QB) been “active” (playing) in every regular season game, prior to that matchup versus Green Bay. Instead, when it mattered the mostest, Hanie was like a “deer-in-the-headlights” — and Green Bay went on to win, and Aaron Rodgers became a media darling because Big Ben didn’t make that last-possession TD (sigh).
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    Caleb Hanie played far better than Cutler in that game. Cutler going down nearly earned them the Superbowl berth.
    -Packer fan who’s watched that game a half dozen times.

  15. So the only time I have even seen the alternating-series-qb thing so much as HALFWAY work was the national co-champion Washington Huskies under Don James trying it with future NFL QBs Mark Brunell and Billy Joe Hobart.

  16. Peyton has more experience. Even though he may be a little sluggish, he has been there before. He knows what it is like to play for the playoffs and then play in the playoffs. Brock is a good QB but just is not ready for the playoffs. Whatever they do, they should not split snaps.

  17. Would you even consider bringing back a broken old Peyton Manning if Brock Osweiler was worth anything.

    Would Brock Osweiler be starting on any team in the NFL right now, not likely. Reality check, if Peyton isn’t on the roster and Brock is your starting QB. You are still looking for a starting QB.

  18. Just put Peyton back in already. It is what many Bronco fans want. The plantar fascia tear is not affecting his ability to throw. Drew Brees finished the game with a tear on his weight bearing foot and was still throwing darts. It really is becoming more annoying than Favre was.

  19. I dunno. I just wish that I could watch one, just one, Broncos game with no mention of John Elway. He was a great QB for the same team where he is now a something or something in the office. We get it. Now please calm down about it.

  20. Manning needs to call it quits and pursue an acting career as he can be the next Herman Munster or Frankenstein. No one on this planet possesses such a forehead.

  21. What? Replace the guy that Denver fans, reporters and talk show hosts were claiming “Tom Brady should step aside” of? How the temporarily mighty have fallen!
    Mike, did you mean play them both at the same time?

  22. Osweiler is obviously your future. If Peyton is healthy enough I think you have to get him into a regular season game. Don’t wait for a playoff game to find out it was the wrong decision.

  23. This is a very good idea and it can work very successfully. The Edmonton Eskimoes won 5 straight Grey Cups in the 70s with the two quarterback system of Warren Moon and Tom Wilkinson. There would be several games where Moon was tanking and Wilkinson would come in the second half in relief and win the game. Too bad that NFL fans have such tunnel vision and can’t try creative ideas.

  24. “When Jay Cutler “went down” versus Green Bay in the 2011 NFC Conference Final, the Bears could easily have gone on to the Super Bowl versus the Steelers had Caleb Hanie (Cutler’s replacement QB) been “active” (playing) in every regular season game, prior to that matchup versus Green Bay. Instead, when it mattered the mostest, Hanie was like a “deer-in-the-headlights” — and Green Bay went on to win”
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    What game were you watching? Hanie actually played better than Cutler did. Cutler’s completion percentage was 42% with a passer rating of 31.8…

    Hanie’s completion percentage was 65% and his passer rating was over double Cutler’s. The Bears were actually fortunate Cutler got injured. He was playing astonishingly bad and was outplayed by his back up.

  25. This statement bears repeating “Getting out coached by Tomlin is not a good thing.”

    It’s true…it happened last Sunday. Let that sink in a minute. Wow…just wow!

    BTW two QBs has never worked! So if it knocks Denver out of the playoffs…I am all for it!

  26. Let the old man play (younger than me). They were 7-0 with him and yes it was largely due to the defense. But let’s not get crazy here: Since Osweiller took over the offense might do well in stretches – he only had a good 4th quarter against NE (he was ineffective prior to that) and has had other games where the offense disappears for long stretches – how many quarters with0ut a TD was it and then the 2nd half of Pittsburgh.

    Hey if Manning does not do well you can always bring him in off the bench.

    Either way if they play wild card weekend I don’t see them advancing.

  27. firecracker87 says:
    Dec 22, 2015 9:32 PM
    How many teams have gone on to the Superbowl with a QB competition going on? – I rest my case.
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    Redskins- at least it was far from settled and consistent throughout the season.

    Ravens made it with a mid-season change to another mediocre QB who was marginally better but still not good, but I guess it was settled long before playoffs.

  28. “with coach Gary Kubiak displaying the kind of flexibility and creativity that could cement Denver’s postseason berth”

    Flexibility and creativity? The only play caller worse than Kubs is Garrett. Maybe Osweiler should play QB with Manning calling the plays! Kubs can go sit with Elway and learn something.

  29. scutz1972 says:
    Dec 22, 2015 11:47 PM

    Just put Peyton back in already. It is what many Bronco fans want. The plantar fascia tear is not affecting his ability to throw. Drew Brees finished the game with a tear on his weight bearing foot and was still throwing darts. It really is becoming more annoying than Favre was.
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    Well, then something else is.

    Brees has always thrown darts, while lately, all Manning is throwing are fluttering rainbows.

    Why do you think he still has the most interceptions this season, yet he hasn’t played for a month?

  30. realestateguy1983 says:
    Dec 23, 2015 10:12 AM

    Can we really consider Brady and Manning a legit rivalry at this point? Its like comparing Jordan to Drexler
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    Right now? Obviously not, since Manning is done.

    It was pretty good in the past, though.

  31. I guess all of this talk about Manning or Osweiler takes the focus off of the fact that the defense folds up like an accordion when they actually play a good team.

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