Irvin on Odell Beckham: “Everybody goes after him with gay slurs”

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When the Giants and/or those close to Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham circled the wagons pre-suspension, they came with claims both ridiculous (the phantom menace of a Panthers motivational bat) and sublime (insinuations of homophobic slurs).

But while bats aren’t something you see every day, Hall of Fame wide receiver Michael Irvin said the taunts are something Beckham has dealt with all year, from nearly every team.

Irvin told Gary Myers of the New York Daily News that he’s talked to Beckham three times this week, and the gay slurs are commonplace.

“He deals with it a lot. For some reason, everybody goes after him with gay slurs. He’s a different kind of dude,” Irvin said. “He has the hairdo out, he’s not the big muscular kind of dude. The ladies all love him. He’s a star. I wonder why people are going in that direction. It blows my mind. I told him he can’t let stuff that people say get to you.”

Of course, something did get to Beckham, who committed three personal fouls, should have been ejected, and was later suspended a week pending today’s appeal.

“I don’t think I’ve ever really seen the animosity towards a receiver ever in the league right now what’s going towards this young kid,” Irvin said. “He’s contrite about it. He can’t believe that it’s pretty one-sided. The attacks are pretty one-sided. He feels so bad this is happening. He also feels like he’s been targeted. I think a lot of players are so upset that he’s getting so much press, so much exposure, without winning.”

Whether Beckham’s contrite or not, he launched himself at Panthers cornerback Josh Norman, hitting him helmet-to-helmet in an act of anger and/or retaliation. That alone should have sent him packing.

And while we’re not naive enough to think the use of such base and ugly taunts is unusual among football players, Irvin’s saying it’s a weekly thing is more troubling than the presence of a bat which no thinking person would ever imagine being used.

With the league stressing rules in recent years to curb certain words among players in the name of respect, they need to make sure they’re policing all the offensive language if they’re going to pretend to be serious about it.

212 responses to “Irvin on Odell Beckham: “Everybody goes after him with gay slurs”

  1. Psych war. Defenders will do / say anything to throw a stud receiver off his game. If he had a speech impediment, they’d lisp around him constantly. If he had B.O. they’d make constant jokes about that. Like high school bullies they’ll find a guy’s one weakness and pounce on it every second. Odell has to learn to be bigger than that. Speaking of being bigger, he might also want to hit the weight room.

  2. Wow… just… wow. The wussification of the American male is almost complete. If you can’t handle trash talking, of any kind, then you shouldn’t be on a football field. Go get a desk job and push papers all day like the rest of us. It’s laughable to think someone should monitor the language on a football field when the guys who would monitor it can’t even determine what a catch is.

    This is a larger issue of our society as a whole. I remember my grandfather complaining about how big of a wuss I was for sitting out a game with a herniated disc. He was so disappointed that he could go fight in a war but I couldn’t play a game with a little pain. I also remember my father saying almost the same thing just without the war part. Further down the line I remember thinking to myself how out of touch they were and they were just the “get off my lawn” types. Now, I see their point and what they were trying to say. It’s beyond coming back from now, look at how the media is running with this making OBJ out to be the victim in this whole thing even though he literally tried to end a guys career through a vicious spear. Everyone is a victim. No one can be offended. Everything is butterflies and rainbows. And everyone is just flabbergasted that Donald Trump is a presidential frontrunner. Well, here’s why! Thanks morons.

  3. Irving should be tested for post concussion symptoms. What a stupid statement he made. Guys go after him with taunts and slurs because they know it gets to him. As for Irving saying players are not gone after like this is dumb. This happens all the time.

  4. As someone who leans left, I’m having a tough time understanding why being taunted with a bat is such a non-issue, on this site, when compared to gay slurs.

  5. put tape over every ones mouth, except the QB, then no one can say bad words to hurt some millionaires feelings during the game. Simple solution- no wonder the NFL didn’t think of it!

  6. Seriously? The victim syndrome in this country is getting out of control.

    There’s a more primal reason everyone keeps ripping on Beckham. It’s because it throws him off his game.

    Until he shows he can handle the heat, the heat’s gonna keep coming.

  7. So… if it’s allegedly a ‘weekly’ thing that OBJ gets verbally abused (which, awwww poor guy….) why is he using that as his crutch/justification for this one particular game? Why hasn’t he acted out before? Is he saying he just let it finally boil over?

    This cop out is just getting out of control and the more former players that come to support him, the less fan support he’s getting as it sounds like he’s simply being coddled.

    Welcome to 2015. Where sticks and stones may break your bones but words are extremely insensitive and can really hurt feelings, sending a person into a downward spiral and ruining their lives and if you speak such words you are an abomination and should be punished for it.

  8. Why is he using Irving and Sanders to accuse others of making slurs? If he wants to make accusations about other players, do it personally. Something is off about this.

  9. And we wonder why that star quarterback decided not to come out a couple of years ago. I don’t blame him but I wonder if it would help end these slurs?

  10. Odell, I’d like to introduce you to Tony Romo. Attention without team accomplishment. Also, if you can’t take the name-calling, you might seek another profession for your life’s work. It’s as commonplace in football (especially professionally) as Gatorade.

  11. I’m gay and I say grow a set! Come on now we have PC speech control on the football field? More of the pansy butt BS that is ruining this country. All these sissies need to grow up when I was young “stick and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me” but now mommy daddy government or mommy daddy college admin Johnny called me a bad name lock him up and throw away the key! This is becoming utter stupidity times 1000!

  12. No, the reason we don’t like OBJ is because he’s a cheap little punk. He pushed the envelope once this season when he was punching people in the face and running away to hide, then he goes out and launches himself and used his helmet as a weapon and Irvin can’t understand? LOL. No one likes a bratty punk who tries to cheap shot people because he can’t toe-to-toe. I’m tired if seeing him showboating, and Mark my words, he’s going to ruin the Giants.

  13. ODB gets a lot of press, he get praised and now vilified. I dont think this vilification is justified, its not like he has a history of dirty play here. He definitely should be suspended, he stopped playing football on Sunday.

    I do think Norman should be suspended or at least fined to, I can’t believe he’s coming off as a victim here. He started all this stuff with Beckum, went after him the couple plays of the game and kept fighting until he started getting flagged.

  14. About 9 or 10 years ago Joey Porter found himself apologizing for using that kind of language toward Kellen Winslow JR.

    His apology? “I didn’t mean to offend anybody but Kellen Winslow.”

  15. When the Giants circled the wagons…
    —————————
    Don’t let them get behind you boys! Lol.

    But hang on. Endless catty remarks and narcissism on social media, endless amounts of time spent concentrating on their own bodies, huge amounts of salary spent on bling and clothes – even a predilection for shoulder pads and eye-shadow – all so that every weekend they can prance around making cat calls and chasing other men, hoping to have a little ball and maybe do a little dance that they practiced in front of the mirror… Erm, macho? Well, maybe in a Village People sense. Perhaps the next player protesting his “he-man” cred by making gay slurs ought first to take a long hard look at themselves – maybe in one of the great many mirrors they have…

  16. Not saying it’s ok but this happens when you think or act as if you’re bigger than the game. The strutting, the constant hand waving, the non stop head bobbing. The kid needs mustard if he’s going to be such a hot dog. He comes off like a caricature. All style, zero class.

    The league has seen many great receivers but the ones that act out like this will always be looked at differently than the ones with class.

  17. Odell needs to grow up. Sticks and stones.

    Turn it. Blow em a kiss. Purse your lips. Put the freak on them. Get in their heads.

    Costs too much and too distracting.

  18. The “ladies all love him”? Sorry, dude. Not this lady. The haircut and attitude need to go.

    The kid is a show off. All the talent in the world means nothing, in my eyes, if you don’t have the humility to go with it. He is definitely not someone I would want my boys to emulate.

  19. Well said Irvin, b/c u talked to Beckham 3 times in one week and HE told you that these slurs are common then u are reporting they are. If he told you he could bench 900lbs would you report he can? Regardless, ppl taunt, thats the nfl, be a big boy about it. If you cry about verbal bulllllying then find a new profession.

  20. I would have loved to see this punk try that on the Steelers or Raiders defense of the 70’s

    Jack Ham, Jack Lambert or Donny Shell would have put him in the hospital…for the season

    Jack Tatum of George Atkinson would have killed him

    That was football ….REAL football when you knew who the better team was… not the refs handing out the wins

    The NFL has become entertainment TV….not pro football we grew up watching ….if your over 50 years of age

  21. It’s football. There is so much trash talk, even at the high school level. Put on your big boy shoes and suck it up. The world is full of people who will say things you don’t like and will hurt your feelings. They don’t care!

  22. That people are talking about gay slurs is crazy. Playground and on the field trash talk, has happened since the first competitor realized he could gain an advantage by doing it. It’s part of the game.

    You create a competitive edge, if your opponent is knocked off balance by words. OBJ can overcome his slights by success on the field. Now he’s gotta rehab his reputation and the only way to do that is to let his play do the talking.

    If he can’t do that, he’ll be just a footnote in the history books of NFL lore. So far, his coach, teammates and organization have failed him, by enabling his misguided conduct.

  23. This is coming from a traditional married man father of two ! Once I put children on this earth I grew up regarding this topic knowing the possibility of my children growing could be a gay woman or man ! For grown ass millionaire men to be acting like this is laughable ! I would way rather have Odell as my son than that scrub MARCUS Ball

  24. The more I hear about Norman, the more he reminds me of another punk CB – Cortland Finnegan. Andre Johnson took his lunch money, and played the next week anyway. I predict the same for Beckham. And I’m a Redskins fan. Just not a fan of dirty CBs.

  25. If Beckham is gay, then I can understand why he lost his composure the way he did. That’s not to excuse his actions. Explanations aren’t excuses.

    Suppose a white player taunted a black player with racial epithets. It would make sense, and seem at least partly justified, to the public if violence was the result.

    If Beckham’s straight, then he needs thicker skin, not only to play football but to survive his own celebrity.

    These kinds of insults are no longer acceptable. I know, I know. Progressivism is destroying America, blah blah blah. Deal with it. Is it asking too much that professional athletes should at least try to be as highly developed spiritually as they are physically? Everybody talks about Jesus. Nobody seems to want to emulate him.

  26. I’m a Pariots fan though I grew up a Giants fan so this isn’t homerism.

    Don’t think OBJ should have been ejected or suspended. By the time of the helmet his, OBJ had been boddy slammed and fouled on every play by Norman. The refs shoud have been replaced.

    OBJ and Malcolm Butler didn’t smack each other although Butler only allowed OBJ 13 yards after an early TD (not Butler’s fault). After the game, they shook hands.

    OBJ only reacts when he’s being mauled repeatedly & refs do nothing.

    And the bats are a big deal, particularly when the Panther player with the bat came within inches of the Giants players when the Giants were first coming onto the field & slapping Eli’s hand.

  27. Geez, I thought it was commonly known that if you could trash talk somebody and put them off their game, you’d do it. He’s a hell of a receiver, but apparently just another special snowflake. Toughen up, buttercup!

  28. And the conversation has been turned. OBJ couldn’t wheel out the racism card so he went for #2 on the list. Victimhood is alive and well even on the gridiron. Heaven forbid someone might actually take accountability. I wish I had instant excuses to deflect from sheer stupidity.

  29. ODB is great, but acted like a lunatic this past Sunday. This thin-skinned stuff is only going to hurt him. Once again, Irvin just doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut. Man up, Odell. This is football. If you want to play with your feelings hurt, go back to soccer.

  30. Isn’t it ironic that the appeal is going to be heard by a former wide receiver? Although it should not be, the appeal is going to be overturned on that reason alone. ODB will be playing on Sunday.

  31. Micheal irvin trying to protect the new golden boy . This kid get so much attention it makes me sick. Not even blaming odell. Blame the media. About 80 percent pf watching giant games is just watching a camera on odell beckham whether on the field or the sideline. Let the kid live . Mayb people will stop bashing him then

  32. he should dye his hair back to it’s normal color and start taking marshall arts classes in the off season. maybe then the gay trash talk will stop on the field, especially if he shows up in the tabloids with a supermodel on his arm. the giants need another mark bavaro to play TE and 2 speedy pulling guards to run power sweeps all day long at DB’s like josh norman. then he’ll get the message.

  33. He gets it because he’s a down low brotha.. He hangs out with another down low dude in Trey Songz and then he gets caught staring at teammates backsides.. Can you imagine this guy in the locker room smh..

    You guys that report this stuff are just reporters but there’s guys out here that know these dudes or people close to them.. All the rest of this is damage control. I’d give OBJ more props if he came out and just be himself.

  34. So, it happens all the time in the NFL. With the money he makes, and his responsibilities to the team, I guess it’s time for Beckham to put on his man pants and get over it!!

  35. he’s not likable. his own team won’t defend him, as we clearly saw vs Carolina…BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE HIM

    he is an immature, petulant baby…and it is clear to everyone

    he is like the ilya bryzgalov of football

  36. Pretty sure the name calling and such has been going on in the NFL forever. Odell needs to grow up. I am aware he is from the entitlement generation and cannot handle it when someone calls him a name but this is a mans game, if he can’t handle it that’s his problem

  37. I don’t dislike Odell but I think it’s the constant coverage by ESPN. When your team isn’t very good and yet you are still the lead story on ESPN people get a little pissed. Odell seems more concerned with self promotion than football sometimes. I also don’t think the ballet moves in the end zone before games are helping him out either. I’m with the Giants on the fact that Norman should have been suspended as well. He definitely contributed to the situation Sunday.

  38. These OBJ supporters (Giants, Giants fans, princess WRs club) are killing me with excuses!

    A bat, slurs, jealously, etc is crazy.

    OBJ wants the highlights and Spotlight but can’t handle the heat that comes with it. You want to dance, do commercials, and be on video game covers but don’t want guys to treat you different.

  39. ‘…policing all the offensive language…’ That is about as difficult and realistic as policing all the pornography on the Internet.

  40. “…they need to make sure they’re policing all the offensive language if they’re going to pretend to be serious about it.”

    You want to turn the refs and the league office into the language police? Seriously?

    Asking the refs to start listening out for “offensive language”, on top of actually doing their job of monitoring the play of the game has got to be one of the stupidest suggestions I have ever heard forwarded by the sports media.

    If players can’t handle “offensive” or politically incorrect language on the field, then they need to find another line of work. If the sports writers can’t handle that reality, then they need to find another way to make a living.

  41. If this is true, it’s pathetic and spiteful. I couldn’t care less about smack talking on the field, but there’s a difference between that and being a garbage human being.

  42. Curbing words? Please. This is football.

    These none-athletic guys (most of the media) who can’t step on the field are constantly trying to make conduct rules about what goes on the field.

    It’s a gladiator sport; A spartan sport; not for the weak of mind or heart.

  43. >>With the league stressing rules in recent years to curb certain words among players in the name of respect, they need to make sure they’re policing all the offensive language if they’re going to pretend to be serious about it.

    Learn to deal with trash talk that’s designed to throw you off your game. Trash talk exists in all sports, learn to deal with it or don’t play. Is OBJ special, is he the only one trash talked? I’ll bet many pro-athletes trash talk. Michael Jordan trash talked, Conor McGregor trash talks, Rhonda Rousy trash talks (didn’t back it up though).

    As an athlete you should have your temper under control by high school, if not college. Else you are easy pickings for veterans who identify weaklings.

  44. I wonder if Jordy Nelson or Eric Decker or Brian Hartline or
    Cole Beasley or Julian Edelman had a total meltdown…put themselves WAY ahead of the team and absolutely DANGEROUSLY CHEAP SHOTTED TO THE HEAD of a Josh Norman…I wonder if THEY would get the same level of butt kissing support that Beckham is getting from Irvin here?

  45. I think we can all agree Beckham deserves to be suspended. But I also believe Norman is no victim. This is a guy who fought his own quarterback in training camp this year and was on the giving end of a few of the late hits this past Sunday. The reason why OBJ is the only one being talked about is because he is the superstar in the equation.

    I’ve also seen a lot of people call him a punk which he deserves after this weekend, but lets not let one game define his whole career. It’s not like this guy is facing charges of beating his wife or something extreme along those lines. He lost his cool against a guy a few players around the league have come out and referred to as a “scumbag.” No to mention, a bat used for team motivation is fine, but the second you start threatening (video proof) another player is when you go too far.

    This is a great learning opportunity for OBJ and one I believe will make him an even more dangerous player.

  46. there is animosity because somehow the ny media has managed to hype an admittedly great catch but one that lots of other receivers and dbacks have made into something to be revered and amazed by.

    it was a very good catch, but honestly, larry fitzgerald probably has 10 catches at least as good as that one over his career.

    he’s a good player, but other players know overhype when they see it.

  47. Where did all this “gay-hate” come from towards OBJ? Has he done/said anything to make people think that? I’ve never seen anything like this before and it blows my mind.

    Regardless, he should have been ejected from the game and I hope the suspension holds up.

  48. Sticks and stones dude.. Sticks, stones, and head spears may hurt you but names will never.. He crossed line with intentional full throttle head hunting.. Not Norman or any other trash talkers.. Period end of case..

  49. im sure he’s dealt with it even in college. him and Jarvis w/ those wigs are kinda asking for it. not that its right and me personally i don’t agree by any means calling anyone those types of words, im just saying he’s heard it more than just this past weekend

  50. Granted I only played football in Highs School, but gay slurs were the go to insult on the field. I find it hard to believe Odell hasn’t had to deal with trash talk before. The worse thing you can do is react to trash talk. Now everyone in the league is going to go after him.

  51. Crazy, Gay slurs, racial slurs, name calling. whats the big deal? these dudes need to toughen up. It used to be that words cant hurt you, now everybody gets offended if you look at them. That being said, Norman is a big mouth and i would have taken him out too. I support Odell

  52. New York fans are butt-hurt that they are going on their 4th losing season in a row and are the second best team in NY behind the Jets.

    Norman’s running knee was a result of OBJs bull-charge with his helmet. Get over it!

  53. Dude is obviously over compensating for something…all he should do is play the game, as good as he is those guys won’t be saying anything by the end of game once he drops 2-3 TD on them, instead he tries to show how tough he is and goes overboard….he’s got a big target on his back, lets see how this ends…

  54. It’s crap to be bullied for being the new guy in town and dating the hot girl, been there – but Beckum was out of control and he could have gone to Goodell or the union with the problem if it was that big of one.

    He should be suspended and probably Norman, as well. That bench warming idiot who walked over during warm ups should be suspended for life.

  55. the beauty of this country is that anyone can dress and look like whatever they want. However one must be strong enough to accept the critiques that may come with that.

  56. So, as a straight man, am i supposed to be insanely offended if someone calls me a gay slur and try to fight them? Is that the defense? I didn’t know that being called gay was fight worthy. Thanks for the update nfl.

  57. Social Justice, 1-2-3!
    (Woo Woo)
    I wanna be PC!
    (Woo Woo)
    It’s just the way to be for me… And you!
    (Woo Woo)
    Your hateful slurs are through!
    (Woo Woo)
    (I call wee wee on you!) (Woo Woo)

    We’ll fight until you’re PC black and blue!
    (Woo Woo)
    We are language police! Fighting bigotry! Hurtful words can suck our turds! ‘Cause it’s PC for me… And you!
    (Woo Woo)

  58. 1 game suspension is completely worth it to take a shot at trash like Norman. Even his own teammate took a shot at him earlier this year.

    2 players got into it during a game and 1 got a little overzealous. He gets a deserved 1 game suspension, Norman should get a fine, and move on. Its not that big a deal.

  59. Poor Odell…
    I knew he was a super whiner when he complained about the Jaguar DBs going too hard in preseason.

    Give me a break.

    Your one-handed catch, that was immediately shown up by a DB on the Phins, and is now a weekly occurrence in the NFL by anyone who catches the ball, turned you into an over-night superstar diva.
    He really is just another WR.
    I’ll take Brown over this turd.
    I’ll take Green, Marshall, and A-Rob over this turd.
    Hopkins…
    there’s probably more

  60. So I have been a long time nyg fan n the way I see it is I do believe the actions that odell expressed sunday were uncalled for, foolish, brat-like…he’s delt with these kinda penalties for a hand full of games. Now if we are just looking at odells incident then yeah I fine and a 1 game suspention is ideal. I believe the refs should have tossed both Norman and odell in this game or coaches should have taking them off. Now, my thing that’s bothering me is that why does odell deserve to receive a suspention when that helmet to helmet hit happens every game but only fines are givin…look at cody wallace for the steelers last week..his hit was worse than odells, knocked his ass out. I do believe odell needs a 1 game suspention n hopefully he relises that his team needs him and he needs to let things go,BUT the nfl needs to be consistent on these things..your going to suspend odell cause he’s a wr,superstar,very hyped to be the next big thing? If odells suspended is upheld then they need to do the same throughout the league. Like I said prior I do believe he deserves the suspention but if it’s not enforced throughout the league then slap odell with a 25k fine and everyone moves on.

  61. jerryyouradisgrace says:
    Dec 23, 2015 7:50 AM
    I would have loved to see this punk try that on the Steelers or Raiders defense of the 70’s

    Jack Ham, Jack Lambert or Donny Shell would have put him in the hospital…for the season

    Jack Tatum of George Atkinson would have killed him

    That was football ….REAL football when you knew who the better team was… not the refs handing out the wins

    The NFL has become entertainment TV….not pro football we grew up watching ….if your over 50 years of age

    ———————————

    Great idea – Let’s go back to the era when the NFL didn’t protect it’s players. The four-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust offenses from the 60’s and 70’s were just so much fun to watch, not to mention great for TV ratings. Seriously though – I grew up during that era and the games were a snorefest compared with today’s NFL.

  62. UNDERLYING ISSUE: Where are his teammates on this? We’ve heard from everyone except even one Giant. What? They don’t have his back?? (No pun intended)…but, seriously no defense from his own locker room??? Speaks volumes!!!

  63. jjackwagon-Irvin doesn’t care if you care about his opinion or not, he’s getting paid to say it; a you don’t get paid to read it.

  64. All you mouth breathers saying he’s never done anything… The guy’s in his second year, and he has phenomenal talent. Translation: He’s a phenom. I don’t like the Giants, but I like watching him play.

  65. UNDERLYING CONCERN: we’ve heard from the talking heads repeatedly on this, but where are Beckham’s teammates? They seem awfully quiet regarding this matter. (No pun intended), but, what they don’t have his back on this nonsense??? What’s up with the Giants???

  66. I am a Redskins fan. I am glad that he is out for the week… BUT. NFL network has posted a video of Marcus Ball walking up to Odell Beckham with a Baseball bat. You can see Beckham is clearly upset and Manning steps in to calm him down.

    IMO, if the Carolina players are using gay slurs and threatening him with a Baseball bat on the field, they have crossed the line. The Bat isn’t a “phantom menace”.

  67. Thanks for the tip Michael.
    If teams weren’t doing this to him before this, they sure will now, because they know they can get into his head.

    Signed,
    the other 31 NFL teams

  68. annapterp says:
    Dec 23, 2015 9:15 AM
    1 game suspension is completely worth it to take a shot at trash like Norman. Even his own teammate took a shot at him earlier this year.

    2 players got into it during a game and 1 got a little overzealous. He gets a deserved 1 game suspension, Norman should get a fine, and move on. Its not that big a deal.

    ———————————————
    Yes, if it is pre 2000, sadly that is no longer the world we live in. We can’t bring back the old days the new America is a softer america where soon no one will have guns, and words will be considered deadly weapons.

  69. Brady deals with this all the time – from players as well as the fans here – and no one cares

    Then again it’s pretty obvious most are saying that out of hateful jealousy as the guy has a super model wife and is in the Super Bowl on average every other year

  70. Because the low IQ jock football players can’t handle their own masculinity. Gotta go the macho route around your stupid buddies. It’s common among mouth-breathers.

  71. Suddenly we have the likes of Michael Irvin,Ray Lewis,Stephen A Smith,and others with questionable character coming to OBJ’s defense. They have all talked to him “several” times this week about what happened on Sunday. I don’t know that I would be taking any advice from these guys. Someone from the Giants,say Eli Manning,ANYONE, should have reeled OBJ in before it got to where it did. Where’s the Giant’s leadership? Eli,he’s your very best receiver. You NEED him,yet you stood by and watched. Be a leader! Good luck playing this next game without him…

  72. He can’t believe how one sided the taunts are? Seriously? This kid has been a dirty playing trash talker from the time he stepped onto an NFL field. Go back and look at any game he plays against the skins. When Breeland jams him at the line, he goes crazy and will slap or punch Breeland before he runs back to his teammates and hides. The league has the book on him, and now the refs have to do their part by actually paying attention to his BS behavior on the field. This was over the top, but it wasn’t out of character for him.

  73. …and trash talking,including slurs,are a daily occurrence. You have to let that stuff roll off and play your game,no exceptions. Until OBJ can do that,he will be targeted by every CB in the league.

  74. In the middle of his career, Jerry Rice showed up one year with a haircut that makes OBJ’s ‘do look like a marine corps drill sergeant’s. Teammates nicknamed him “Fifi”. No doubt he got an earful from opponents too. All he did was shatter more records. No complaining, no going postal on the field, none of that nonsense.

    OBJ has the talent to just let his game do the talking too. But now everyone knows – you can get into his head. He’s going to have a hard time shaking that label, and may never be able to.

  75. I am sure none of OBJs frustration came from being locked down or dropping easy TD passes. Must have been all bats and slurs.

  76. Did I miss the part where Beckham accepts responsibility and apologizes for losing control and repeatedly behaving like a maniac? Until that happens, I don’t care about his excuses.

  77. This thread is classic as the thread by the other Giants player, JPP, when he said there was nothing he couldn’t do after blowing his fingers off. It’s been that kind of year for the Giants. Close losses, players losing fingers, getting MRSA, and getting upset over gay taunts.

  78. Look how much press these two players are getting. Anyone think for a second this could be a big publicity stunt?

    Either way, it’s getting annoying that former players are making excuses for the new guys. OBJ should’ve gave it to Norman by performing on the field for all 4 quarters.

  79. qdog112 says:
    Dec 23, 2015 7:56 AM

    That people are talking about gay slurs is crazy. Playground and on the field trash talk, has happened since the first competitor realized he could gain an advantage by doing it. It’s part of the game.

    You create a competitive edge, if your opponent is knocked off balance by words. OBJ can overcome his slights by success on the field. Now he’s gotta rehab his reputation and the only way to do that is to let his play do the talking.

    If he can’t do that, he’ll be just a footnote in the history books of NFL lore. So far, his coach, teammates and organization have failed him, by enabling his misguided conduct.
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    In today’s world competitive edge translates to cheating. I hate that! Such is the consequence of a couple generations being brought up to believe everyone wins just for participating. These are grown men. Well paid grown men at that. Playing a violent, physical game with so much on the line. The horse has left the barn. This is the world we live in now and I for one think it sucks.

  80. Rumor around the industry is ODB swings both ways. He’s surely hearing about it on the football field. Going to have to get over it and play ball….. Well on the football field anyway.

  81. roverboy1949 says:
    Dec 23, 2015 6:38 AM
    put tape over every ones mouth, except the QB, then no one can say bad words to hurt some millionaires feelings during the game. Simple solution- no wonder the NFL didn’t think of it!

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    The NFL “thinking” is the first problem. Does it ever happen?

  82. Oh for Heavens sake–Forget the handshakes. Letsjust all ave a big group hug after the game. Geez, grow some skin

  83. I thought JPP said that he couldn’t play Madden without an index finger. So,there’s that… but this latest business with Beckham Jr. could have been stopped in its tracks if only a teammate or coach had stepped in and made him sit until he calmed down. Now they have to play a huge game without him. That’s not bad luck,that’s stupidity,and it’s squarely on the Giants as a team. There’s plenty of accountability to go around here,refs,coaching staff,and players alike.

  84. Remember game four of this season, Giants vs Bills, after the game, the Bills swore that Beckham kept punching guys after the whistle when the refs weren’t looking and then running away. There were other games where the opposing players accused Beckham of similar behavior. He’s a dirty player who earned his nickname “O’dirty Odell”. I don’t feel sorry for somebody who takes cheap shots and then goes nuts when it turns out that all the other kids don’t like him. I think Irvin is wrong, Beckham isn’t contrite, he’s a classic bully.

  85. I’m far from an uneducated and insensitive conservative tea partier, but ODB really needs to get some tougher skin. He just put an even bigger target on his back for opposing defenders with more ammo to get under his skin. The insults and gay slurs are going to continue but that doesn’t make it right. Any questions of how any gay player will be treated in the NFL have now been answered.

  86. When you are really that good you will have detractors who will find something anything to hate on you, funny a couple of weeks ago it was Cam.. Oh well.

  87. Suspend Richie Incognito! Seriously though, if he deals with it all the time, its probably because teams know it gets to him. Time to grow up and realize words are just words. Shut them up with your play, not your helmet.

  88. HMMMM, if I am not mistaken, in 2013 Riley Cooper of the Eagles was fined for saying a derogatory word OFF THE FIELD to a person of another race. So how is this any different??? That these players can use gay slurs against another player ON THE FIELD and get away with it???? And at least not fined as was Riley Cooper???
    Double standards here??? No matter who is involved!!!

  89. Maybe Michael sees himself in Odell, but I never heard of head butting being a form of contrition. I think Odell was mostly upset he dropped that sure TD pass. He probably got some jawing after that one, and took out his frustration on Norman.

  90. Not a Giants fan, or a fan of OBJ.

    Reading the comments on this site is interesting. While the left leaning media would have us all believe that the world is changing to to more accepting, and tolerant society, many of these posts suggest otherwise.

    I am a bit confused though, many are complaining that he is too weak, or a wuss, if you will. Yet you vilify his “manly” actions of standing up for himself.

    Don’t get me wrong, what he did is inexcusable, and wrong.

    I’m just surprised by many comments here, that most of you actually feel that it was wrong.

  91. For players to trash talk about Odell about being gay, there must be some rumors about him. If he is gay, then he should just come out and say it so that it doesn’t bother him. If he’s not gay, then it shouldn’t bother him that much because you should know yourself better than others and they are just trying to get inside his head.

  92. Not sure what you’re complaining about here.

    You say what OBJ did was inexcusable and wrong.

    Then you say you are ‘surprised’ that most of us AGREE what he did was wrong.

    Whaaaaat?

    I guess what you aren’t understanding is that there was NOTHING ‘manly’ about a blindside cheapshot to the helmet.

  93. Plain and simple.
    His actions weren’t because of taunting, gay slurs, or threats; he was contained early in the game….and it pissed him off.

    The Panthers made OBJ look bad.

    NO ONE makes OBJ look bad.

    Now he’ll just be seen as a whining, paranoid prima donna who can’t handle a little trash talk.

  94. “He can’t believe that it’s pretty one-sided. The attacks are pretty one-sided.”

    What does this even mean? Irvin and Sanders have made statements lately that don’t even make sense in the English language. How would an attack not be one-sided?

  95. Where I come from, if you run your mouth on someone you should expect to get hit. Sometimes, you just need to stand up for yourself.

    I like how everyone just expects him to take the verbal abuse, not to mention the early body slam that started the physical confrontations.

    I’m sure nobody in this comment section would ever react in such a way because all of you are perfect, enlightened beings. None of you has ever made a mistake. Must be nice to not have to worry about being human.

  96. The whole bat thing is dumb. OBJ was yelling towards the Panthers side of the field and a practice player comes over with the bat at his side. It never leaves his side. The Punter pulls back OBJ. If he felt threatened he shouldn’t have started yelling like a fool. If he was scared from far away. 1. That’s issues with bats from something in his past. 2. You don’t start yelling junk when you are afraid of the bat from far away. As for the Slurs Notice how only the Giants side heard any of it. And if it’s been happening ALL YEAR why was it not brought up until NOW? This is the giants pr using this to excuse the players actions. As for the stupid Michael Sam comment. Sam was a terrible player. He got released because he wasn’t any good. He was dropped in the CFL because he was seen as a drama queen. The CFL.

  97. Thought this game was played by MEN. Now they have to watch what they say or may offend someone on the opposing team? Boy, where’s the Mike Ditkas, Dick Butkus’, Jack Ham’s, and Jack Lambert’s of the game these days?

  98. Irving should be tested for post concussion symptoms. What a stupid statement he made. Guys go after him with taunts and slurs because they know it gets to him. As for Irving saying players are not gone after like this is dumb. This happens all the time.

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    He’s the worst analyst on TV. Everything he says annoys me.

  99. Oh my God, America is so soft. They should have fined both of them and told them they won’t let it continue past this week. Football is more about drama than the actual game these days, and it’s only going to get worse (thanks Will Smith). Have fun watching flag football in 10 years!

  100. So trash talking is no longer allowed in the NFL? Michael Irvin never trash talked? I think this is a case of a retired NFL prima donna defending a current one, just because the wide receivers have never been called on it before this. It’s always been the defense who have gotten nailed for this idiotic behavior. There is no way to defend an intentional helmet to helmet hit, regardless of the gay slurs beforehand.

  101. Any evidence you need to understand how messed up the NFL has become is having Pro Football Talk give Michael Irvin’s quotes on what happened in the Panthers/Giants game.

    How did Michael Irvin achieve this god-like, all-knowing status, exactly? Does anyone remember his track record in the NFL?

    Michael Irvin is another former player who should never be heard from again.

  102. ever notice how the great ones dont talk trash, they let their play speak for them instead? yea, that goes for both Beckham AND Norman. shut up, play ball. if you cant win without playing head games, then you already lost.

  103. Its been a long time since I heard of this type of problem. I don’t know if he is gay or not and nobody will know until he talks. If there are gay guys in the NFL they keep it well hidden and they should. Players talk trash all the time, but none of it relates to being gay. If he wants to continue his career in the NFL he needs to ignore the talk and just play; otherwise he is in for a rough time.

  104. This is your test JR…. Either you are great or you are NFL fodder…. A lot of uber talented studs have wore the official jock-strap of the NFL.. This is where the boys filter out and I hate to say it… Your move Mr Beckhan

  105. Odell is a stud reciever, every team he faces they can’t cover him, he’s very fun to watch. They’re just trynna get under his skin. That’s what they do to the better players. Like when josh gordon comes back they will be saying so much crap about weed to get him psyched out and try to get him ejected. They try and do this to the best player on each team. Just hes got to know not to take it to heart, it ain’t personal it’s them doing they’re job just like he goes out there and catches insane passes over good defenses they want to retaliate by getting in his mind…

  106. I don’t know how you can talk that way, with all the injuries to key players these days. I think the NFL is just trying to find a good compromise between letting them play football and keeping injuries under control.

  107. Players get taunted all the time but it isn’t from being gay, unless I’m mistaken. If I was gay and anticipated having a career in the NFL, I would keep a tight lid on it.

  108. If baseball bats are this big of a deal, then I can’t wait for baseball season to commence.

    From now on, charity golf events are now my go to “rumor mill”.

    In many stadiums, baseball and football teams share the venue. not uncommon at all for an athlete (professional or amateur) to play with or just simply have on hand, during practice or games, baseball bats, golf clubs, hockey sticks, basketballs, etc.c.

  109. Clearly beckham is somewhat mentally unstable.

    A bat can threaten/intimidate you in pregame, and it will carry over, especially to unstable people. It can put them in a mental funk, and get them off their game.

    But it’s also one of a few things thrown his way. The taunts then build off this.

    Then the game starts and he gets pushed around and body slammed…. and it snowballs.

    They are all related. They all fed off

    Anyone that doesn’t think so is viewing the world through one lens, and have never seen an unstable person react to things like this. You.. me… probably could handle it. But not everyone can handle it. Beckham couldn’t. Many others can’t. It just doesn’t always play out like this.

    The sad thing though, is that now people know they can get into his head, it’s probably going to get worse.

  110. Well if he was 2 more inches to the side on the helmet to helmet that corner would be drinking from a straw. Lock him up before he kills someone.

  111. According to Chris Carter, Beckham called him after the game Sunday and Carter told him ‘knock it off, no fighting’; he went on to say that Beckham called him, not the other way around and he told Odell the truth, he was wrong and deserved to be suspended. That’s the kind of advice Beckham should be getting, not Irvin’s ‘blame it on everybody else’………that being said, apparently Beckham didn’t take Carter’s “get yourself a fall guy advice” from earlier this season.

  112. Oh and one more thing, how come no one is going after these guys for the slurs like the media pounced on Rajon Rondo.

    Guess it’s ok, since Beckham lost his mind. Which in of itself means Beckham is being targeted unfairly.

    Why the double standard.

    Either Rajon Rondo isn’t wrong, or all these players are wrong. Why isn’t ESPN/NFL Network/Fox/CBS outing these players? Afterall they no doubt have evidence of slurs on their cameras running pregame.

    Why don’t they out the people using these slurs?

    I’m not saying that should be the standard, but the media has pretended like that is the standard, and it’s hypocritical to pretend like it is, and then let stuff like this go on, and not out it.

  113. ndnation23 says:
    Dec 23, 2015 12:39 PM
    ever notice how the great ones dont talk trash, they let their play speak for them instead? yea, that goes for both Beckham AND Norman. shut up, play ball. if you cant win without playing head games, then you already lost.
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    The great ones ALL talk trash. Larry Bird, Michael Jordon were the masters in Basketball! There’s not a football player out there that hasn’t talked trash—the great ones are the ones who do it the best and get under their opponents skin while keeping themselves in the game. Norman did go too far, therefore, over $20000 in fines. Beckham tried to hurt someone, he deserved the suspension; but trash talk is part of the game.

  114. He’s easily the best wide receiver in the NFL and nobody has really come close to stopping him…maybe that has something to do with it.. Nobody in the history of the NFL has had as successful a start to their career at his position. He’ll be fine when he ignores the silly talk from inferior athletes and lets his play to do all the talking on the field.

  115. People are sensitive to everything. Half of my comments have been removed from this very site, because people report them, because they are “offended”. I would look at OBJ as a marked man now. He is now known as the guy who is extra sensitive. The guy that can’t take trash talk and is easy to get off his game. Even if it proves to not be true, you know people are going to try extra hard now.

  116. troy43mvp says:
    Dec 23, 2015 1:36 PM
    People are sensitive to everything. Half of my comments have been removed from this very site, because people report them, because they are “offended”. I would look at OBJ as a marked man now. He is now known as the guy who is extra sensitive. The guy that can’t take trash talk and is easy to get off his game. Even if it proves to not be true, you know people are going to try extra hard now.
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    Don’t take it personally, there are days when every single one of my comments are removed and some are as provocative as “I totally agree” (and the post I agreed with stays on the board–go figure).

  117. metalman5150 says:

    In many stadiums, baseball and football teams share the venue. not uncommon at all for an athlete (professional or amateur) to play with or just simply have on hand, during practice or games, baseball bats, golf clubs, hockey sticks, basketballs, etc.c.

    Metlife has never had a baseball game played in it. The bats were brought by the VISITING team for…reasons?

    Someone please enlighten me as to a GOOD reason why BASEBALL bats were brought out onto a FOOTBALL field by FOOTBALL players.

    I’ve heard “motivation”. I just fail to see how bats are used as motivation, at least not in any positive way.

  118. If he’s gay that’s his business. And as far as the women loving him what I have witnessed in life is that the majority of women love gay men. I guess they feel more at ease.

  119. Man, not an Giants fan, but if OBJ is “thrown off his game” and still goes for 76 and a TD, when he figures out how to control his emotions he will be unstoppable.

  120. You can express yourself without resorting to trash talk. On the other hand we are talking about life in the NFL……

  121. The silliness coming out of the NFL is great for the college game. I wonder every year why I continue to renew my NFL Sunday Ticket.

  122. With all this crying about trash talking hurting Beckham feeling and taking him out of his game. Now the DB’s are really going to tear into him. Once anyone sees a weak spot. They will use it against you. Its only going to get worst for him now. Crying isn’t going to make it go away. Trash talking has been its sports forever. Ali was the king of trash talking. Beckham is just mentally weak. Giants fans have no right to back up Beckham cry baby antics. Giants had one of the biggest trash talkers to play the game. LT or full name Lawrence Taylor Michael Strahan was a close second.

  123. You writers trying to dismiss the bat thing are dead wrong. It was a bad thing and that is why Ron stopped it. He knows how they were being used and once it became national news it is time to stop coming out of the tunnel like a gang ready for a rumble.

  124. This is the first time in my life I’ve seen the sentence “The ladies all love him” as a reason for thinking some dude is gay. Don’t the ladies loving you pretty much indicate the opposite?

  125. It annoys me that Odell Beckham acted like a jerk, had a temper tantrum and intentionally tried to injure another player yet the Giants are trying to make Beckham out to be the victim.

  126. romophobic says:
    Dec 23, 2015 6:33 AM
    Wow… just… wow. The wussification of the American male is almost complete. If you can’t handle trash talking, of any kind, then you shouldn’t be on a football field. Go get a desk job and push papers all day like the rest of us. It’s laughable to think someone should monitor the language on a football field when the guys who would monitor it can’t even determine what a catch is.

    This is a larger issue of our society as a whole. I remember my grandfather complaining about how big of a wuss I was for sitting out a game with a herniated disc. He was so disappointed that he could go fight in a war but I couldn’t play a game with a little pain. I also remember my father saying almost the same thing just without the war part. Further down the line I remember thinking to myself how out of touch they were and they were just the “get off my lawn” types. Now, I see their point and what they were trying to say. It’s beyond coming back from now, look at how the media is running with this making OBJ out to be the victim in this whole thing even though he literally tried to end a guys career through a vicious spear. Everyone is a victim. No one can be offended. Everything is butterflies and rainbows. And everyone is just flabbergasted that Donald Trump is a presidential frontrunner. Well, here’s why! Thanks morons.

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    Shame on your grandfather and father for suggesting you couldn’t play a game through pain. You weren’t advancing on a beachhead; you were going to play a game that doesn’t matter. I don’t get this macho crap. A herniated disc is a serious medical condition, and you were right to rest it rather than succumb to old school “no pain no gain” thinking. What if you played and developed a lifelong medical condition? Would they congratulate you for being tough while you walked with a cane the rest of your life?

  127. romophobic says:
    Dec 23, 2015 6:33 AM

    This is a larger issue of our society as a whole. I remember my grandfather complaining about how big of a wuss I was for sitting out a game with a herniated disc. …

    ***********************************************************************************

    Yeah, you totally should’ve gone back out there and played football with a herniated disc. Not like it’s a serious injury or anything. Also, your grandfather sounds like a pretty stand-up guy saying stuff like that to a kid.

  128. If you’re going to dish it out in the NFL, and Beckham certainly loves to talk, then you damn sure better be man enough to take it when someone gives it back to you. On Sunday he was getting beat physically and verbally and in response through a temper tantrum. You know who he should really be pissed at? His own team. I don’t recall one Giants player going out of their way to defend him physically or verbally during that game. What’s that about Odell?

  129. Yeah I agree…if you are going to dish it out then be sure you can take it. The best players are the ones who just play well and shut up; they let their play do the talking. He can shut up others by just going out there and making plays that help the team win.

  130. nygnjd says:
    Dec 23, 2015 1:56 PM
    metalman5150 says:

    In many stadiums, baseball and football teams share the venue. not uncommon at all for an athlete (professional or amateur) to play with or just simply have on hand, during practice or games, baseball bats, golf clubs, hockey sticks, basketballs, etc.c.

    Metlife has never had a baseball game played in it. The bats were brought by the VISITING team for…reasons?

    Someone please enlighten me as to a GOOD reason why BASEBALL bats were brought out onto a FOOTBALL field by FOOTBALL players.

    I’ve heard “motivation”. I just fail to see how bats are used as motivation, at least not in any positive way.
    ——————
    The Panthers have used it all season and no one including the Giants had any problem with it. It signifies “bringing the wood”—going all out. If it was used in a menacing fashion in any game it should have been brought to the refs attention….before the game got out of hand.

  131. Seems to me all the commentators are missing the point.
    1. You’re supposed to play within the rules. When you flout the rules, people don’t respect you.
    2. SELF CONTROL is integral when playing competitive sports. You guys in the NFL are supposed to be PROFESSIONAL football players. You were supposed to have GROWN UP. Some of you haven’t.
    3. The NFL doesn’t adequately discipline its unruly players because they like the attention this kind of behavior generates. It likes the trash talk, the hate-spouting and the violence. That’s what it sells.

  132. This is the culmination of a pattern of behaviour for Beckham. The criticism has been heavier for Beckham because; A. there is a highlight reel of clips showing Beckham taking cheap shots over the last two years and B. Beckham was the only one who ear holed an opponent with a spear on Sunday. If he hasn’t figured out why this is happening, he’s gonna come and go in the league a lot faster than most of us thought…

  133. CAM NEWTON LIKES RICKY MARTIN, LIVES WITH CAITLYN JENNER, LIKES TO HOT TUB WITH GREG OLSEN AND LOVES TO GIVE HIS BALLS UP TO LITTLE KIDS………..AND PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING BECKHAM?

  134. I don’t think anyone really questions’ Beckham’s level of talent. With that being said, if you are going to consistently show up defense’s with your choreographed touchdown celebrations and expect guy’s to just shrug it off, it’s not going to happen.

    Every player of any sport is looking for some type of edge when competing and the biggest thing is finding your opponents “kryptonite”. And anyway, how did he play this long and never been subjected to trash talking??

    And what kills me about this whole thing is the dude punched Courtland Finnegan “twice” before the whole Josh Norman thing even went down, so he was already setting the stage for an epic meltdown. He better change quick because this will be the plan of attack from here on out until he get’s a handle on it.

  135. Men and women are dying and are beaten for being “gay”. And this asshat is complaining about abuse??? Please stop reaching for a real problem to cover your clown behavior and clown hair.

    IF YOU LET WHAT PEOPLE SAY MAKE YOU CRAZY AND IRRATIONAL, THEN THE POWER IS GIVEN TO THEM!

    18 year old servicemen and women make life and death decisions everyday.. Please STHU! Beckham, Irvin, Deon, ect……

  136. The solution is very simple. Start dating Olivia Munn and post weekly pictures and people will stop thinking you’re gay!

  137. romophobic says:
    Dec 23, 2015 6:33 AM
    Wow… just… wow. The wussification of the American male is almost complete. If you can’t handle trash talking, of any kind, then you shouldn’t be on a football field. Go get a desk job and push papers all day like the rest of us. It’s laughable to think someone should monitor the language on a football field when the guys who would monitor it can’t even determine what a catch is.

    This is a larger issue of our society as a whole. I remember my grandfather complaining about how big of a wuss I was for sitting out a game with a herniated disc. He was so disappointed that he could go fight in a war but I couldn’t play a game with a little pain. I also remember my father saying almost the same thing just without the war part. Further down the line I remember thinking to myself how out of touch they were and they were just the “get off my lawn” types. Now, I see their point and what they were trying to say. It’s beyond coming back from now, look at how the media is running with this making OBJ out to be the victim in this whole thing even though he literally tried to end a guys career through a vicious spear. Everyone is a victim. No one can be offended. Everything is butterflies and rainbows. And everyone is just flabbergasted that Donald Trump is a presidential frontrunner. Well, here’s why! Thanks morons.
    ———————–

    It’s called being smarter, and nicer. Your grandfather was wrong, and was not smart (in that story). You should have sat out, so you didn’t do permanent damage, or risk a longer injury. When people speak out about using slurs (in any profession), it’s about being more civilized. Think about why many NFL coaches are leery about players with extremely high IQ’s. They know they may think about the long term, vs killing themselves for team.

  138. racial slurs, name calling. whats the big deal? these dudes need to toughen up. It used to be that words cant hurt you

    bs folks got their az kicked for that stuff back in the day in real life. the racist want to use slurs then when they get stomped, want to press charges

  139. Hahahaha. WOW. All respect lost for Odell Beckham. Flambuoyant hair and dancing and taunting. The all attention seeking me guy got his feelings hurt. See Randy Moss was a BAMF – never had this problem. Jerry Rice, Tim Brown – class acts. Odell is worse that TO or Ochocinco at this point. Go cry to mommy, can’t play with the boys

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