Dale Guyer chimes in with a Peyton Manning statement, too

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Eventually, it’ll be easier to list the people who haven’t issued a statement in connection with the report that Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning used HGH while recovering from various neck surgeries when playing for the Colts.

The latest to chime in is Dale Guyer of the Guyer Institute in Indianapolis, the facility that reportedly provided HGH to Manning, through his wife, Ashley.

“I have no reason to believe these allegations are based in fact or have any truth,” Dr. Guyer said. “In fact, I can say with absolute certainty they are not. I find it extremely disturbing that the source of Al Jazeera’s story, a former unpaid student intern named Charles Sly, would violate the privacy of Mrs. Manning’s medical records and be so callous and destructive as to purposely fabricate and spread stories that are simply not true.”

That’s a clunky and confusing sentence. If the claim is fabricated, Sly isn’t violating Ashley Manning’s privacy. Sly is violating the privacy of Ashley Manning only if she did indeed receive HGH from the Guyer Institute.

Meanwhile, as the statements pile up regarding the Peyton Manning report, Ashley Manning’s silence becomes even more conspicuous.

“I would emphasize that Mr. Sly was never an employee of the Guyer Institute and his brief three-month internship occurred in 2013 during which time Peyton was not even being treated or present in the office,” Dr. Guyer said. “I think it is obvious that Mr. Sly has fabricated this whole thing for reasons I cannot fathom. I am proud to have treated Peyton and helped him through his rehabilitation. Mr. Manning is one of the most honorable and upstanding individuals I have had the pleasure of knowing.”

The fact that Sly didn’t work for the Guyer Institute in 2011 doesn’t mean he didn’t have access to records or that he hadn’t heard company secrets. And while Dr. Guyer doesn’t mention that Sly recanted the claim, it’s hardly uncommon for people to say things privately that they’d never say publicly. Sly could be smart enough to know that saying harmful things openly about a client of the Guyer Institute could, at a minimum, create problems for Sly in whatever he’s doing now or hoping to do in the future.

Either way, the statements will continue to flow — and people will form their opinions about the situation without ever knowing the full, objective, and unvarnished truth.

25 responses to “Dale Guyer chimes in with a Peyton Manning statement, too

  1. The NFL network, ESPN and all media outlets would be all over this and making it a top story if it was Brady. Self righteous fans would have him found guilty and the message boards here would blow up with comments on Brady. I guess that since it is easier to defeat Peyton and he has a lousy playoff record, nobody cares and lets him get a pass.

  2. This “Sly” guy is gonna have award time getting a job as a pharmacist his local drug sore.

  3. Aren’t there HIPPA laws that would prevent from the drug supplier from commenting on any of its customers? The more constructed statements that keep coming out only makes Peyton more suspicious.

  4. What about the 5 other guys who obviously are on the juice like Clay Matthews and James Harrison? I guess they didn’t warrant a statement to “clear” their names, lol.

  5. Um, the statement can be accurate. It may not be, but it is plausible.

    The part of the story that is fabricated is that the HGH was destined for Peyton.

    The part that violates her privacy is that she needed HGH for some medical reason of her own, which should remain private.

  6. Peyton teabagged a female trainer in college. She immediately filed a sexual crimes complaint. There was an athlete who witnessed it and backed up her story. He later settled the case with her. Peyton is no saint….

  7. Peyton is an NFL athlete with a screwed up neck, but it’s his WIFE who’s a patient at the same clinic who’s taking the HGH.

    Makes perfect sense.

  8. @dontletfactsgetintheway That’s because Brady and the Patriots have a history. Either way, there is absolutely no reason to believe this is true when the source immediately came out and repudiated it. Even if it was, HGH to recover from serious injuries is not the same as using PEDs to improve performance, nor is it probably uncommon.

  9. If Deflategate has taught anybody anything it’s that it is way too early to draw any conclusions.

    Now, let’s be honest…it is entirely plausible that Manning used HGH while recovering from his neck surgeries. It would also make sense that he would have it put in his wife’s name for deniability. However plausible does not make it true.

    Also plausible is that Sly was lying in the undercover video trying to get a potential client on board.

    Also plausible is that Sly is now lying about what he originally said.

    As far as Sly recanting his claims, he has a very vested interest in doing so even without any payoff money. Disclosing medical information the way he did in that uc video is a big HIPPA violation.

    And let’s face, the guy that made the video has his own credibility issues. Without seeing the full and unedited tape we have no way of knowing if Sly was led to say these things through dubious means.

    I am not saying you shouldn’t have an opinion on whether Peyton took HGH or did not take HGH. What I am saying is if you think you KNOW one way or the other you are a fool. We are a long way from knowing the truth here, either way. So be open to changing that opinion as new information comes forward. Otherwise you’ll look as foolish as the commenters still clinging on to Deflategate that spew information that has long since been debunked.

    Let it play out, people. Let it play out.

  10. To Mike Florio:

    “If the claim is fabricated, Sly isn’t violating Ashley Manning’s privacy. Sly is violating the privacy of Ashley Manning only if she did indeed receive HGH from the Guyer Institute.”

    Once a current or former employee of the practice mentions a name that is a patient at the practice, it’s a HIPAA violation and her privacy was indeed violated.

  11. Still a violation of privacy for mentioning her but still worthy of an investigation to see if she had HGH sent to their house. Only prob is no way to prove he took it.

  12. @dontletfactsgetintheway That’s because Brady and the Patriots have a history. Either way, there is absolutely no reason to believe this is true when the source immediately came out and repudiated it. Even if it was, HGH to recover from serious injuries is not the same as using PEDs to improve performance, nor is it probably uncommon.
    =================================
    The Denver Broncos have just as much, if not more, of a history than the New England Patriots:
    -12 PED violations since 2003 (leads NFL)
    -Videotaping SF walkthrough practice
    -Multiple deliberate salary cap violations
    -Offensive linemen illegally smearing jerseys with vaseline to make them harder to block

    There’s a lot more evidence against the Broncos than there ever was against the Pats. But nice try.

    Sources recant statements for all sorts of reasons. Sly made his comments in a private conversation and didn’t know he was being recorded. What Guyer was doing was illegal and Sly doesn’t want to get caught up in it. Seriously dude, why would Sly lie about the things he was saying?? What did he have to gain?

    I don’t care what the purpose of the HGH was. It is on the BANNED SUBSTANCE LIST, and players are consistently punished for using it. Give it up with this “well, it shouldn’t be illegal anyway” crap. It gives a competitive edge by letting the players heal faster, therefore it violates the precious “integrity of the game” that King Roger is so concerned about.

    It’s time to conduct a full investigation. Now.

  13. Lines got crossed….Gomer already admitted his wife received HGH in the mail from Guyer.

    Gomer does not have to KNOW Sly. Sly is just the guy who had knowledge of an “Ashley Manning” in Florida receiving them.

    Since Gomer has alread admitted it’s true, Ashley Manning’s silence is deafening.

  14. I would guess that Dale Guyer is feeling enriched after making that statement.

    The story isn’t gaining traction because it’s the last thing the NFL wants the focus on when it comes to their poster boy of a model player, and retiring NFL icon and in the headlines leading up to the Super Bowl.

    I can only imagine how much money has exchanged hands to batten down the hatches, if it did happen. It’s really to no one’s benefit to make this turn into a big splash of a story, now or later.

  15. one thing I don’t understand with the Florida thing, did the Mannings live in Florida in 2011? Have a second home there? Someone at a Florida address who could forward the mail to them in Indy or wherever they were living?

  16. Ashley’s silence is very telling. If the hgh was truly hers a statement admitting that would end this. Any objective person would look at this and say the high was for Peyton. If Ashley was legally prescribed hgh she would have used her own private doctor but since one of these infamous clinics prescribed there are more questions than answers. This is how a rod, bonds and Clemons got caught.

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