Peyton Manning says he’ll “probably” sue over HGH allegations

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Earlier on Sunday, Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning described the HGH allegations made against him as “defamation,” a legal term of art that invites the question of whether he plans to sue.

Peter King of TheMMQB.com and NBC’s Football Night in America asked Manning whether he’ll sue, and here’s what Peyton told King: “Yeah, I probably will. I’m that angry.”

Of course, no lawsuit or any other strategy should be pursued based solely to diffuse anger. Filing a defamation case, which for a public figure involves a very high standard of proof, is one of the worst things to do in anger, because the pre-trial discovery process can lead to plenty of added frustration. Much of the plaintiff’s private life becomes fair game, with defense lawyers entitled to explore plenty of seemingly irrelevant facts in order to determine the plaintiff’s reputation before the alleged falsehood harmed the plaintiff’s image. Also, any claim for damages based on emotional distress arising from the false allegations invites a wide range of personal questions regarding other sources of stress in the plaintiff’s life, and regarding how the alleged stress from the defamatory statement affected overall happiness and well-being.

Before anyone gives Manning advice on how to proceed, someone needs to explain to him the potential consequences of suing. Presumably, someone explained to Manning the potential consequences of hiring Ari Fleischer to provide crisis-management P.R. advice — and the potential consequences of issuing (and cajoling the issuance of) multiple statements disputing the story.

If Manning had said nothing about the allegations, how many mainstream news outlets would have ignored it? I can’t speak for anyone else, but I decided not to mention it until Manning issued a statement denying it. If Manning, the Broncos, the Colts, Manning’s agent, and Dr. Dale Guyer had said nothing, there’s a chance that plenty of media outlets would have said nothing, too.

Before making a final decision on whether he’ll sue Al Jazeera or anyone else, Manning needs to consider  the question of whether fighting the charge that publicly does more harm that good by: (1) making more and more people aware of the report; and (2) ensuring that it will remain a periodic part of the NFL news cycle for months.

103 responses to “Peyton Manning says he’ll “probably” sue over HGH allegations

  1. Sure you will, Peyton. Even with this clumsy PR spin going on, somebody should ask what sense did it make for his wife to be getting medical shipments in the mail when you know the scrutiny you’re under as a player, especially at that time when he was up against the wall trying to save his career? Anyone who believes this is pretty gullible. Like I’ve said earlier, I don’t care. All of these players who are suddenly playing to 40 are using, and anyone thinking that Drew Brees suddenly came off of a partially torn rotator cuff because of special healing qualities or Brady who looked shot in the first month of last year before going on vacation with his “guru” during his bye after the KC beating isn’t doing the same thing is naive. It’s science. Embrace it. If the players want to use it, let them.

  2. If slimy Dr. Guyer starts to feel like he’s going to be left holding the bag, then he’s gonna start singing like the proverbial canary. Get out the popcorn.

  3. Canada has a law which states that no program can call itself a news program if it has been caught lying. For this reason, Fox “news” cannot be broadcast there, and for that same reason, Al Jazeera can be broadcast there.

  4. Much of the plaintiff’s private life becomes fair game, with defense lawyers entitled to explore plenty of seemingly irrelevant facts in order to determine the plaintiff’s reputation before the alleged falsehood harmed the plaintiff’s image

    He and his wife have an open marriage, they’re swingers. Maybe that’s what you’re alluding too ha ha

  5. 1) Peyton Tea Bagged a woman in college and lied about it
    2) Peyton has had HGH (confirmed) shipped to his house in “his wife’s name”
    3) This all occurred during Peyton’s neck surgery/noodle arm era
    4) He immediately hired Ari Fleishberg, George W. Bush’s Iraq War salesman

    ……wow PM, things aren’t looking so good for you.

    Roger, do the right thing….ring Wells tonight and line him up for a multi-million dollar investigation. We need to get to the bottom of this for the integrity of the shield.

  6. He’s widely popular because he’s not only one of thr greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game, but also because he’s charismatic, professional and that translates to a lot of money in the media. So if you make him out to be a steroid user, that tarnishes both legacy and reputation both professional and personal.

    Would you allow yourself to be slandered and do nothing ?. That’s like pleading guilty in a courtroom because the deal is good but you know you’re innocent. I would go down fighting, personally, if I did nothing wrong. I don’t think his parents raised their boys not to fight for themselves.

  7. The bluff.
    No way Manning sues. Any lawsuit would give Al Jazeera the opportunity to depose Manning, his wife, his clinics, etc.
    Not in a million years

  8. First he says “I’m not going to lose any sleep over it”
    Then hires world known mouth piece.
    Now says he probably will sue because “he’s that angry”

    Seems to have as many inconsistencies in his actions as 2011

  9. He has no chance in a defamation suit. He can’t win against Sly because Sly had no idea the information was going to be published, so that’s out the window (publication is a necessary element). He can’t win against Al Jazeera because the standard of actual malice is incredibly high and they reported what someone else said and the guy did have some credibility (Teagarden is on tape admitting he took HGH supplied by the guy).

    Nice statement for PR I guess, though.

  10. Florio, you flogged Brady for remaining silent. Stop flip-flopping on how to handle news reports. Peyton’s handling this a lot better than Uggs.

  11. Does Manning look like a steroid user? Has anyone ever looked at him and thought yeah, I’m gonna use roids and get jacked like Peyton! I’m convinced there are many NFL players who are juicing, Manning is NOT one of them.

  12. The lady protests too much, methinks……funny how no one is denying his wife had shipments sent to her, the same yr he had his neck surgery…..could be a coincidence

  13. “Florio, you flogged Brady for remaining silent. Stop flip-flopping on how to handle news reports. Peyton’s handling this a lot better than Uggs.”

    Tom Brady went under oath and denied everything. That’s about as powerful a statement as he could have made.

  14. “Angry, furious, disgusted is really how I feel,” Manning told Lisa Salters on ESPN. “Sickened by it. I’m not sure I understand how someone can make something up about somebody, admit that he made it up, and yet somehow it’s published in a story. I don’t understand that.”

    Despite this comment, the NFL continues to persecute Brady and the Patriots despite the lack of evidence. Science has proved beyond a doubt that the NFL lied. The NFL admitted under oath that they had no evidence of any wrongdoing.

    NE is recognized as THE standard of doing things the right way.

    With Manning, you have direct evidence. A witness AND the wife who received the HGH! He has played for the 2 dirtiest franchises in NFL history! Denver cheated the salary cap and that was the only reason they won their 2 SBs. Never mind the vaseline and chop blocks!

    Indy has been caught piping in phony crowd noise, needles on the sidelines, tanking games, and fraudulent injury reports!

  15. “joemontanafootball16 says:
    Dec 27, 2015 8:05 PM

    Does Manning look like a steroid user? Has anyone ever looked at him and thought yeah, I’m gonna use roids and get jacked like Peyton! I’m convinced there are many NFL players who are juicing, Manning is NOT one of them.”

    He’s not accused of taking steroids…

  16. Once Swamp Boy realizes it would result in his private dealings becoming front page news, he’ll back off from his threat of litigation. He’s as phony as a three dollar bill.

  17. So this is a British documentary that aired on Al Jazerra. If you go to You Tube and watch it, the doc is called The Dark Side and it’s pretty damning in terms of the network of people that get performance enhancing drugs to the track and field (hurdler) athlete that went undercover. They got him a ton of drugs. With that said, unless there is a paper trail, there is no way to track any of the athletes mentioned to the suppliers.

    The guy who is the main contact willingly tells the Manning story, he’s not prompted. There are also quite a few Green Bay Packers that are mentioned. It’s an interesting documentary, take it however you want.

  18. ” … Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning described the HGH allegations made against him as “defamation”…”
    __________________

    Defamation? The only thing defaming manning is his play on the field.

  19. If Manning had said nothing about the allegations, how many mainstream news outlets would have ignored it? I can’t speak for anyone else, but I decided not to mention it until Manning issued a statement denying it. If Manning, the Broncos, the Colts, Manning’s agent, and Dr. Dale Guyer had said nothing, there’s a chance that plenty of media outlets would have said nothing, too

    Oh please, Manning articles are your bread and butter. You just took extra time to formulate a plan of attack. Don’t try to spin it any other way.

  20. joemontanafootball16 says:
    Dec 27, 2015 8:05 PM
    Does Manning look like a steroid user? Has anyone ever looked at him and thought yeah, I’m gonna use roids and get jacked like Peyton! I’m convinced there are many NFL players who are juicing, Manning is NOT one of them.
    —————-
    HGH is not a steroid. Maybe you should have a basic understanding of things before you spout off…

  21. Al Jazeera America is a US news organization out of NYC. They are part of Al Jazeera international news conglomerate, which has never in any way been associated with terrorists. It has been condemned in the Middle East and the US because they occasionally challenge the “official” party line put out by oil sheiks, dictators, and the occasional Bush, Cheney, or Clinton. Their offices in the Middle East have been shut down, their editors and reporters have occasionally been imprisoned. They are far more credible than Fox “News”, and to an extent MSNBC as well.

  22. purplengold says:
    Dec 27, 2015 7:35 PM

    Canada has a law which states that no program can call itself a news program if it has been caught lying. For this reason, Fox “news” cannot be broadcast there, and for that same reason, Al Jazeera can be broadcast there.
    ************************************************
    What a pile of crap.

  23. Peyton Manning’s story keeps shifting around, with none of his responses sounding like an innocent man blindsided.

    First, Peyton insisted he was “not going to lose any sleep over it.” Peyton promptly followed that obviously disingenuous comment by saying he that he was “angry, furious, disgusted, sickened.” Wow – that was either an amazing turnaround, or Peyton was lying to to the world.

    After that, he hires a prominent former White House Press Secretary (Ari Fleischer). Again, this is NOT something you do, if you figuratively don’t plan on losing any sleep over the matter.

    And now, he’s threatening that he’ll “PROBABLY” sue. That sounds like Peyton is HEDGING. It leaves him an out. It sounds extremely suspicious. Any person with Peyton’s enormous resources who was LEGITIMATELY wronged (and who was angry, furious, disgusted and sickened) would not PROBABLY sue. They would go on the warpath – to ensure that the truth promptly comes to light.

    Peyton’s post-accusation actions do not pass the smell test. In no way, shape or form. I am not a Peyton hater by any means, but I do seek to discern truth — and I’m really NOT feeling it with Peyton’s responses.

    First he tried to minimize it. And when that didn’t work, Peyton came up with an extremely contradictory response — that continues to escalate in ways and manners that bely a credible response from an innocent man.

  24. Isn’t it common for pregnant women to take HGH? Well guess what, Ashley had twins in 2011, could it be that these HGH shipments were related-to pregnancy? Note Peyton didn’t deny the involvement of his wife in recipient of these drugs and that this was a medical matter between his wife and his doctor?

    I don’t even know why I bothered posting this, people that hate Peyton have already made up their mind about him and thoroughly enjoying this schadenfreude …and I know how these things work – human psychology always associates the first thing it hears about something as the enduring impression, even if it is later disproven – unfortunately, this will hang over Peyton forever, just like Brady’s cheating allegations (also proven false)

  25. bad idea , your wife would be brought into court and all of your family, they
    everything will come out.

  26. 9 one and dones*

    🙂

    #cheat
    #tainted4eva
    #MightAsWellHaveNoRecordsTheyAllMeanNothinh

  27. Ashley Manning would not get fertility drugs from an anti aging clinic. Nope. Not buying it. 🙁

    #cheat
    #taintedlegacy

  28. Let’s assume, for sake of argument, Manning did not take PEDs. Are the NFL and ESPN going to drag him across hot coals and go the Tom Brady Smear Campaign route?

    Of course not.

  29. to stevegrogannakedbootleg: you are absolutely right. My son was prescribed HGH as a child because he had growth retardation due to severe kidney disease. No renal function = no growth. Don’t expect a lot of medical accuracy in stories about sports superstars who are trying to fool mother nature.

  30. Did Manning take HGH?? Don’t know, don’t care. Should every person (sports figures or no) have access to HGH for use in healing from injuries?? Hell yes.

    That’s all I have to say 🙂

  31. blue18hutthutt says:
    Dec 27, 2015 8:38 PM

    Isn’t it common for pregnant women to take HGH? Well guess what, Ashley had twins in 2011, could it be that these HGH shipments were related-to pregnancy? Note Peyton didn’t deny the involvement of his wife in recipient of these drugs and that this was a medical matter between his wife and his doctor?
    __________________________________
    You should watch the documentary in question. In the fortieth minute they speak about the type of growth hormone that was sent to the Mannings and the three legal conditions under which it is prescribed.
    Wasting due to pituitary cancer
    Wasting due to advanced HIV
    Wasting due to colon removal for cancer
    It is a drug that cannot be prescribed off label (to treat a condition other than the three above)- that is why the Doctor has issued a statement of denial.

  32. I don’t think manning will sue. He gulps every time the name Angela Buchman comes up.

  33. They should drag him through. He deserves it. Damn cheater. All his records and stats should be wiped from the books and forfeit his only ring.

  34. “Florio, you flogged Brady for remaining silent. Stop flip-flopping on how to handle news reports. Peyton’s handling this a lot better than Uggs.”

    On what planet do you spend most of your time? Remember how Brady won a lawsuit after screaming to the hills?

  35. “Let’s assume, for sake of argument, Manning did not take PEDs. Are the NFL and ESPN going to drag him across hot coals and go the Tom Brady Smear Campaign route?

    Of course not.”

    Why not? What is with you New Englanders and your strange victimhood complex?

  36. Not a chance in the world that Manning sues…first of all he can’t win, but second of all there’s a little thing called discovery and no person in the media spotlight needs or wants that kind of scrutiny.

  37. If he’s really innocent, he’ll fight it. He’ll give sworn testimony under oath. He’ll go after the lying cheating dirty scoundrels, beat them, and rub their noses in it.

    Just like Tom Brady.

  38. Here is the thing folks.

    Apparently we are supposed to believe Ashley Manning got fertility treatment by PEYTON’S Doctor not a real gyno or obstetrician.

    #SuuuureSheDid
    #YeahRight
    #cheater
    #taintedLegacy
    #Shaneful

  39. In order to get out of this one, I think Peyton’s only option is to throw Ashley under the bus. Say she was the recipient, was trying to stay young to compete with other hot NFL wives, etc. 🚌

  40. Here’s the pickle. If Manning never touched a PED in his life, regardless of the allegations lobbied, do you sue, and open yourself up to more inquiries about your personal life than you want others to know, regardless if they’re good or bad?

    We can sit here and mock/applaud Manning all we want about his professional career. Outside of football, this is the first ‘bad’ thing I’ve heard about him. I admit I’m not glued to the internet as others and need to read all articles related to Manning/NFL but, I’ve not heard one bad or salacious thing that’s popped up in his life.

    We can nail Manning all we want about his on field flaws, and short comings in the playoffs, but to me, this is a huge surprise, if it’s proven true.

    How far would you go to prove your innocence, if it were you?

  41. Where are all the BSPN Outside The Lines “investigators” when you need them? Probably all busy trying to dig up more phony dirt on Brady and the Pats.

  42. I remember his first two years as a bronco. He played lights out after looking like he was on the decline his last year as a colt. Not even Brady has looked as good this year compared to that.

    People always told me manning isn’t the nice guy he’s portrayed by the media. Wont bring it up on here.

  43. ratsfoiledagain says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:22 PM

    Outside of football, this is the first ‘bad’ thing I’ve heard about him. I admit I’m not glued to the internet as others and need to read all articles related to Manning/NFL but, I’ve not heard one bad or salacious thing that’s popped up in his life.

    ———————
    Lookup what he did to a woman trainer in a locker room incident while he was at Tennessee….. I believe he ended up having to pay her off in the end…..

  44. “That’s the right thing to do. Sue for obvious defamation and then donate the money to charity.”

    Obvious? Don’t be naïve, pal.

  45. NFL players on HGH? Especially an old, injured one?

    Why, that’s preposterous!

    Next thing you know, those liars will say this isn’t a league full of choir boys and run by saints. The monsters!

  46. Just watch, unlike Brady, this guy will be protected and this will be swept under the rug. Nothing to see here, folks. Lucky for Peyton, also unlike Brady, he’s an Everyman who appeals to Middle Americans who eat terrible chain store pizza, and he’s 1-2 in Super Bowls.

  47. Quoting bengalsfan2079:
    “I kind of like this black cloud forming over Denver as a Bengals fan for tomorrow’s game.”
    ~~~~~

    Come on, after so many painful losing seasons, your Bengals finally have enough depth, talent and the always-needed luck in all three phases of the game to go deep, or even win it all ON the field!

    As a Seahawks fan I can relate all too well with the decades of painful loyalty. It will taste all the sweeter when you earn it on the field where it matters.

    Grandpa Manning punched himself out early yet again by selfishly playing through garbage time to pad his individual stats at the expense of his backups’ need for real game experience, and his own health, so nobody important is distracted.

    So you are still winning this one the right way tomorrow – just keep your focus, hopes and faith in your team to go deep! Hopefully we fix ourselves in time to reach the Super Bowl with you, and avenge your beating us earlier this season.

  48. nflexecutivesconstantlylie says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:15 PM
    blue18hutthutt says:
    Dec 27, 2015 8:38 PM
    Isn’t it common for pregnant women to take HGH? Well guess what, Ashley had twins in 2011, could it be that these HGH shipments were related-to pregnancy?
    __________________________________
    You should watch the documentary…fortieth minute…the type of growth hormone sent to the Mannings and the three legal conditions under which it is prescribed – wasting due to: pituitary cancer, advanced HIV & cancerous colon removal. It…cannot be prescribed…to treat [any other] condition… that is why the Doctor has issued a statement of denial.
    —————————–
    And it is not that common for pregnant women use HGH (deformities risk) – sometimes resorted to in IVF (even then it’s rare beyond the first trimester). Ashley gave birth in March 2011 & Peyton’s stem cell treatment was sometime between May-Sept 2011. Stem cell treatment commonly includes HGH but such doctors treating athletes are supposed to avoid it. If Ashley wasn’t on IVF, or getting an HGH not used in IVF or getting any HGH after March 2011, then Peyton’s after-hours treatment at that European stem-cell clinic that Spring starts to look more suspicious. It apparently didn’t work though – he had to have more surgery Sept 2011.

  49. If he sues and the contention is that his wife was involved, then she’ll be involved in the lawsuit, too. Peter King said on NBC on Sunday that Manning would not discuss his wife’s involvement.

    No Ashley mention(s) = no lawsuit.

  50. The NFL’s drug testing program is a joke. Manning is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to players using HGH.

  51. Mortensen is on Mike&Mike this morning….let’s see him try to defend Peyton with his brand of lies.

    Backtracking on HGH shipped to wife started

    Bush press sec. already onboard as story broke…interesting

    Attacking messenger…not story is always suspect.

    NFL will say, nothing to see here…move along

  52. I believe Romanowski also used his wife as a scapegoat for shipments/prescriptions. These guys never learn.

  53. buffalosportsfan80 says:
    Dec 27, 2015 7:38 PM

    He’s widely popular because he’s not only one of thr greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game, but also because he’s charismatic, professional and that translates to a lot of money in the media. So if you make him out to be a steroid user, that tarnishes both legacy and reputation both professional and personal.

    Would you allow yourself to be slandered and do nothing ?. That’s like pleading guilty in a courtroom because the deal is good but you know you’re innocent. I would go down fighting, personally, if I did nothing wrong. I don’t think his parents raised their boys not to fight for themselves.
    ——————————–

    He should be a man and just own up to being a lying cheater and accept the consequences.

  54. ratsfoiledagain says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:22 PM
    Here’s the pickle. If Manning never touched a PED in his life, regardless of the allegations lobbied, do you sue, and open yourself up to more inquiries about your personal life than you want others to know, regardless if they’re good or bad?

    We can sit here and mock/applaud Manning all we want about his professional career. Outside of football, this is the first ‘bad’ thing I’ve heard about him. I admit I’m not glued to the internet as others and need to read all articles related to Manning/NFL but, I’ve not heard one bad or salacious thing that’s popped up in his life.

    ———————

    You could insert the name “Brady” here and the narrative would fit just like it does for Manning. This is the where we should all begin–cautiously.

    We all watched Brady’s life and reputation get ripped apart without a shred of proof in the worst run “investigation” bag job we’ve ever seen. The NFL was complicit in not only knowingly providing false information, but also in allowing it to cement public sentiment when they should have made a quick and apologetic retraction. What occurred to Brady this past year was nothing short of criminal. He (like Manning) had earned and deserved a clean record for 15 years prior to that, which irrational fans of teams he beat gladly disregarded in their one chance to smear the guy. They simply don’t care what the truth is as they helped Brady become erroneously labeled forever.

    I hope we don’t see this same gross injustice with Manning. We don’t want the same knuckle-dragging torch-bearers (ex. the Deflate-Truthers) trying to stone him in the public square before we look at all the information and qualify it rationally. Let’s not let the inmates run the asylum again.

    We’ve all seen just how easy it is to defame someone and how impossible it is to get an earned reputation restored. That is exactly why there should be protocols in place to not “shoot first and ask questions later” in this, or any other instance in the future.

  55. thefatlazygamer says:
    Dec 27, 2015 8:16 PM
    Why isn’t it getting any play that like 3 Packers were on the list? Especially the oversized juiced up troll doll looking man known as Clay Mathews?

    ===

    because they aren’t quarterbacks. this might be the first ever NFL quarterback implicated in a PED scandal

  56. The timing of the recanted allegations coincided with Peyton’s neck surgery…true. But it also coincided with the birth of the Manning’s twins…and HGH is a proven post-birth treatment for the mother…the use is even more common when it is after the birth of twins.
    That fact…along with the “reporter’s” history of fraud should be enough to hold judgment until an investigation is complete.

    The pharmacists even says he did not trust Collins and fed him some BS to see how he would react…once realizing he was filmed in secret he recanted immediately.

    Be patient…this and the NFL Brady suspension appeal will keep us all entertained well into the off season…

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