Reporter stands by claim that Charles Sly worked at Guyer Institute in 2011

AP

The denials of the Al Jazeera report regarding the alleged use of HGH by Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning include a contention that Charles Sly, who provided the information regarding Manning’s alleged HGH use, didn’t work at the Guyer Institute during 2011, the year in which Manning reportedly obtained HGH through his wife. The reporter from Al Jazeera who was directly involved in the story insists that Sly indeed worked at the Guyer Institute in 2011.

“Both Manning and the operator of the anti-aging clinic maintained today that the informant worked at the clinic only in 2013,” Peter King said during NBC’s Football Night in America. “I talked to the Al Jazeera reporter late this afternoon who did this story and she told me that they have confirmation from the clinic that the informant’s employment records say that he worked there in 2011.”

It’s one of those bright-line facts that could lend credence to the rest of the story being pushed by each side. However, it’s also possibly a red herring; even if Sly worked there only in 2013, he’d have access to the secrets that get told among employees — and it’s safe to say that accounts of providing HGH to Peyton Manning is the kind of secrets that employees would find fascinating.

Still, if Al Jazeera is wrong about such an indisputable fact, all other allegations and details becomes suspect. Likewise, if Manning and the Guyer Institute have gotten the details of Sly’s association with the clinic wrong, the entire denial becomes shaky.

70 responses to “Reporter stands by claim that Charles Sly worked at Guyer Institute in 2011

  1. I have done an exhaustive investigation into this matter, and though I have no actual evidence one way or the other, I have determined that it was more probable than not that Manning used HGH.

  2. “if Al Jazeera is wrong about such an indisputable fact, all other allegations and details becomes suspect.”

    Like when ESPN reports that 11 of 12 footballs were underinflated by 2 lbs. each, and the Wells Report proves that ESPN was wrong, the story should then go away right?

  3. Can we not pretend to be surprised and have negative connotation in the comments to these drugs? That would be the actual shocker. If the public would have an educated response to this instead of this naive shock and awe pretend stuff, and if the league would have a drug policy that made sense, this wouldn’t be an issue.

  4. Nationwides new commercial with Manning singing “HGH you feel so good” will be ready for the Super Bowl.

  5. Maybe Manning sues PFT along with whoever else is spreading this story around with zero verification? Some guy says he saw something to implicate someone, provides zero evidence and the media wants to beat this story nonstop? If the informant is proved to be a liar, will Mike Florio apologize to Manning openly? Nope. No other word will be said if the claim turns out to be a lie.

    It is funny how some people who post here believe Manning is guilty without a shred of proof. And we wonder why this country is heading for disaster? Half the people in it think the National Inquirer is a newspaper.

  6. Maybe Peyton was just experimenting with new Papa Johns toppings. You have to work to stay on top in the pizza game.

  7. Don’t worry, football fans.

    The Wizard Goodell will get to the bottom of this. Just as soon as he attends a Patriots game. In Foxborough.

  8. You can believe that Sly was lying when he first spilled his guts or you can believe he’s lying when he said he was lying.

  9. let’s see:

    -Colts cut PM because the team doctor said PM wouldn’t be able to play
    -PM couldn’t throw the ball
    -4 neck surgeries
    -PM came back and played much better than he has in the past

    based on these facts…. lol, so which QB will it be next year?

  10. shlort says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:40 PM

    It is funny how some people who post here believe Manning is guilty without a shred of proof.
    ________________________
    I agree, but were you saying the same about Brady earlier this year?

  11. baskinginreflectedglory says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:41 PM

    I trust Al Jazeera. If I’m not mistaken, they are very religious people. I’m sure they have the highest moral integrity and do not lie or make things up, just like my Patriots.
    ————
    LOL, I don’t even know where to begin.

  12. knowspinzone says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:01 PM
    We really need an independent Ted Wells investigation to get to the truth of all this.

    ——————————————-

    I agree. If they start now we might hear something in 3 years about it.

  13. So Manning the ageless wonder who btw looks his age these days used a drug (reportedly) like other athletes who were also believed ageless wonders for a long time until they weren’t anymore.

    As for the news organization that reported this story, I would suggest people actually put aside their fears of Muslims and actually watch…might find actual news being reported and not updates on the Kardashian’s.

  14. rolf1015 says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:53 PM

    shlort says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:40 PM

    It is funny how some people who post here believe Manning is guilty without a shred of proof.
    ________________________
    I agree, but were you saying the same about Brady earlier this year?
    ——-
    Before he destroyed his cell phone, or after?

  15. Note the fact that at no point does Peyton deny that Ashley did not receive HGH.
    Both facts could be true: Peyton didn’t receive HGH. Ashley used the HGH for some other procedure which the Mannings will refuse to discuss.
    Or neither could be true…

  16. This is today’s journalism and may have always been it before the internet. Sources aren’t vetted amd ethics don’t exist for the majority of them. The worst part thougb is it shows how gullible people are and how damaging bad reporting is, you have people already calling Manning a steriod abuser (hgh isn’t even a steroid at that) on a report that has no credibility.

  17. sowhatbrady6 says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:52 PM

    let’s see:

    -Colts cut PM because the team doctor said PM wouldn’t be able to play
    -PM couldn’t throw the ball
    -4 neck surgeries
    -PM came back and played much better than he has in the past

    based on these facts…. lol, so which QB will it be next year?
    ——–
    I don’t know, how about with a QB who’s a year younger, brags that he’s going to play until he’s 45, on a team that has a reputation of skirting the rules.

  18. If he did not work there in 2011, then the guy is obviously a liar who was going to say whatever he felt he needed to so that he could impress this potential business partner he thought he was talking to. He literally said that he talked to Peyton Manning and that he was a “nice guy”. If he lied about that, why believe anything else that came out of his mouth??

  19. If Peter king talked to them and they had “confirmation” that he worked there, why not simply provide the documentation and put it to bed?? If you want to be taken seriously as a journalist, try referencing actual proof instead of “trust me, I verified… End of story”.

  20. Venerable axiom has not kept up. Wells said he did not need the cell phone, all Tom did was upgrade to an iPhone 6. Peyton like Tom does not have to hand over his phone per the CBA, but we all know Roger won’t go after Peyton so it won’t be an issue.

  21. VenerableAxiom says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:14 PM

    Before he destroyed his cell phone, or after?
    ——-
    And when will Peyton be providing his personal cell phone to the league?

  22. Always makes for interesting reading when a blogger with no formal journalism training–and who does no actual reporting himself–pontificates on the subject of journalism and the performance of actual reporters.

  23. bballnut50 says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:32 PM
    Cold day in hell I would give that news source a ounce of legitimacy!

    ———————————————–

    I don’t understand this way of thinking. Because the parent organization is headquartered elsewhere in the world, their American news operation is somehow untrustworthy? Is there a non-racist way that someone could come to that opinion?

  24. shlort says:

    It is funny how some people who post here believe Manning is guilty without a shred of proof. And we wonder why this country is heading for disaster? Half the people in it think the National Inquirer is a newspaper.
    ———————————————————
    Are you SERIOUS??????

    Tom Brady has not one SHRED of proof that he did a THING, yet he was suspended for 4 games and is still fighting his innocence in court! And 80% of all football fans think he’s GUILTY!!!!!

  25. I’m no Manning fan and yeah I get it, he’s a little hard to take. But Al Jazeera? Seriously? I’m going to need a far more credible source than the terrorist newsletter before I accuse the guy of PED use.

  26. jaxairsupport says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:10 PM

    As for the news organization that reported this story, I would suggest people actually put aside their fears of Muslims and actually watch…might find actual news being reported and not updates on the Kardashian’s.
    ——–
    “Al Jazeera Guided by View that 9/11 was a CIA Conspiracy”
    –Shannon High-Bassalik, CNN, NBC, MSNBC

    “Al-Jazeera Retracts Article Claiming Israel Opened Dams & Flooded Gaza”
    –In southern Israel, there are no dams of the type which can be opened.

    Actual news?

  27. truthfactory says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:27 PM

    If Peter king talked to them and they had “confirmation” that he worked there, why not simply provide the documentation and put it to bed?? If you want to be taken seriously as a journalist, try referencing actual proof instead of “trust me, I verified… End of story”.

    ____________________________

    The story broke less than 24 hours ago. I think we are going to see more documentation, particularly if Peyton files the defamation suit he is threatening. He should be careful what he wishes for.

  28. FYI, al-Jazeera actually hires journalists from all over the western world. Journalists who have worked for Reuters, BBC, AP and are credible. Does not mean this story is accurate but they are legit. Try watching al-Jazeera America and one might be surprised how straightforward it is.

  29. VenerableAxiom

    do you really need me to take the time to pull stories of local “news” sources that might have said obama is purposely unleashing ebola on the people… or how …

    never mind… there is no point. They have a non-american name therefor you cant see past your nose.

  30. Why has Peyton not turned over his cell phone to the NFL yet?

    Why is he not allowing the nfl access to all his banking accounts?

    What are the Manning’s hiding??

  31. I hope people realize that the Al Jazeera news org has won multiple awards. I don’t know if the story is true or not but I know it won’t be because they are some joke news organization. This ain’t like when Saddam had his minister in Iraq.

  32. VenerableAxiom says:
    Dec 27, 2015 10:44 PM

    “Al Jazeera Guided by View that 9/11 was a CIA Conspiracy”
    –Shannon High-Bassalik, CNN, NBC, MSNBC

    “Al-Jazeera Retracts Article Claiming Israel Opened Dams & Flooded Gaza”
    –In southern Israel, there are no dams of the type which can be opened.

    Actual news?

    ====================================

    First quote is from a lawsuit filed by a disgruntled ex-employee after she was fired.
    Wait for the courts to sort it out before running with it.

    Second quote cites a case where Al Jazeera themselves retracted an inaccurate story. Every news organization does it. What’s the big deal?
    The New York Times retracted a story where they misreported facts about Hilary Clinton’s emails.
    The Boston Herald retracted the story that the Pats filmed the Rams walkthroughs.

  33. I have watched the report and Manning can pay lawyers for a lawsuit all he wants but there is nothing to sue Al Jazeera for. They just reported their finding and nothing could even remotely could be called defamation. The fact he is even bringing this up reflects poorly on him. This comes from a Packer fan who’s team was just equally implicated.

    You can make your racist comments about the word “Al Jazeera” but the reporting is investigative journalism and the findings where presented, take them how you will. I know that type of reporting isn’t common anymore but it is great for those of us who still like to make up our own minds.

  34. Manning is a fool to act so indignantly on this matter. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and it’s better to put the fire out than to say that there is no fire.

  35. “I hope people realize that the Al Jazeera news org has won multiple awards. I don’t know if the story is true or not but I know it won’t be because they are some joke news organization. This ain’t like when Saddam had his minister in Iraq.”

    …What are you saying here?

  36. The interesting thing is that Peyton played better after the neck surgeries, but suddenly when the NFL started testing for HGH Peyton started to not play so well anymore and now is the worst qb in the league. It makes you wonder.

  37. Interesting that Peter King comes to the immediate defense of Manning. He along with Mort and ESPN ran with the “deflategate” false psi data put out by the NFL last year. Although he has since apologized, you would think the guy would pause and try to be honest and accurate in his reporting rather than simply blurt out another response the NFL is pushing on this subject.

    One GUARANTEE, there will be no investigation of this report by the NFL. They have lost all credibility and will not look to harm another one of their golden boys.

  38. The news agency that shows the videos of beheadings
    The news agency that has alway been slanted towards the racial in the middle east
    Yeah that is where I go for my news

  39. Never have I heard anyone say Payton’s wife didn’t receive HGH sent to their address. Guilty if this true. The wife takes the hit and Payton is perceived guilty unless he discloses what his wife is or was using HGH for, even full disclosure of what the wife was using for won’t make this go away.
    How about the wife seeking revenge for his cheating..just a thought…

  40. Observations and a side note.

    If Ashley Manning never had a prescription to HGH (or received), then why hasn’t there been a statement to that effect? I think that would provide enough to put the story to rest, because it would indicate that neither of the Manning’s had access to the drug in question.

    Did Charles Sly work at Guyer Institute in 2011?

    Side note, Manning didn’t do himself any favors coming on the air like a big meat head telling us how angry he was. He didn’t sound like NFL royalty.

  41. baskinginreflectedglory says:
    Dec 27, 2015 9:41 PM
    I trust Al Jazeera. If I’m not mistaken, they are very religious people


    You’re mistaken.

    I like the implication – if it starts with “al” it must be just like “Al Qaeda”.

    “Al” is Arabic for “the”.

    Next up: “the KKK” is just like “the FBI”.

  42. One GUARANTEE, there will be no investigation of this report by the NFL. They have lost all credibility and will not look to harm another one of their golden boys.

    —-

    The NFL is going to ignore anything from Al Jazeera. They only care about accusations made by connected people from their own insiders circle.

    Now if Ryan Grigson said that it was “well known around the league” that Peyton Manning did HGH, the NFL would spend millions of dollars on a con job independent investigation.

  43. bengals4lifer says:
    Dec 28, 2015 12:01 PM
    Observations and a side note.

    If Ashley Manning never had a prescription to HGH (or received), then why hasn’t there been a statement to that effect? I think that would provide enough to put the story to rest, because it would indicate that neither of the Manning’s had access to the drug in question.

    Did Charles Sly work at Guyer Institute in 2011?

    Side note, Manning didn’t do himself any favors coming on the air like a big meat head telling us how angry he was. He didn’t sound like NFL royalty.
    ______________________________________

    Al Jezeera released a video showing the reporter on speakerphone with the clinic’s Human Resources Director who confirmed to her that Sly was brought on in 2011.

  44. Manning’s camp has said that Sly was at Guyer’s in 2013 when Manning was in Denver. Then how would he know that?

    Al Jazeera’s suspicion that Sly’s 3 week delayed response was likely due to all camps trying to discredit report getting their story straight gets some credence from this

    but Al Jazeera hasn’t produced the emails they say they sent to Sly to confirm his story in early December either, have they?

    Nor why they are so sure that Ashley Manning was shipped hgh at a Florida address in 2011. How are they so sure of that?

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