NFL morning after: The ’72 Dolphins deserve to celebrate

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If the 1972 Dolphins celebrated yesterday following the Panthers’ loss to the Falcons, I say good for them.

Members of the ’72 Dolphins contend that their celebrations have been overstated, and they don’t really get together for champagne every year when the NFL’s last remaining undefeated team loses. But what we saw yesterday when the Panthers fell from 14-0 to 14-1 with a loss to the Falcons is a good reminder of just how special a team the ’72 Dolphins were.

It’s really, really hard to finish an NFL season undefeated. The Panthers looked like they were the team with the best chance to do it since the Patriots came thisclose in 2007, but yesterday they simply had an off day while the Falcons had a good day, and Atlanta won 20-13. That’s the thing about life in the NFL: You’re going to have some off days, and your opponents are going to have good days. The gap between a very good team like Carolina and a mediocre team like Atlanta is really not that great, which means that if you’re not playing your best every single week, you’re going to lose at some point.

Unless you’re the ’72 Dolphins.

The ’72 Dolphins weren’t the only undefeated, untied champions in the history of the NFL because they never had a day like the Panthers had yesterday. The ’72 Dolphins were the only undefeated, untied champions in the history of the NFL because even when they had bad games like the Panthers had yesterday, they found a way to win. They were an incredible football team that always found a way to win. In Week 3 of the 1972 season, the Dolphins trailed 14-6 in the fourth quarter at Minnesota. They won 16-14. In Week 6, the Dolphins trailed the Bills 13-7 at halftime. They won 24-23. In Week 10, the Dolphins trailed the Jets 24-21 in the fourth quarter. They won 28-24. In the playoffs, the Dolphins trailed the Browns 14-13 in the fourth quarter. They won 20-14.

You can argue that the ’72 Dolphins weren’t the best team in NFL history precisely because they were involved in a lot of close games. The ’72 Dolphins weren’t a dominant team like the ’85 Bears, a wrecking crew that crushed the opposition, but the ’72 Dolphins were the only team in NFL history that found a way to win, every single week.

That’s a special thing, and a hard thing to do, as the Panthers found out yesterday. If the ’72 Dolphins want to celebrate their status as a unique team in the history of football, let them celebrate.

Here are my other thoughts from Sunday:

Johnny Football can run, but can he play quarterback? Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel had 108 rushing yards yesterday, the second-highest total for a quarterback in the NFL so far this year. But we’ve always known Manziel is a good athlete. The question is whether he’s a good quarterback, and that question remains unanswered. Manziel completed just 13 of 32 passes for 136 yards, with no touchdowns and one interception. That’s just not good enough. I like Manziel because he’s an exciting player to watch, but I’m just not convinced he has what it takes to be an NFL passer.

The rest of the season just got a lot more interesting. I thought heading into yesterday that we might be in store for a boring end of the season, but the results of yesterday changed all that: The Patriots lost, which means they don’t have home-field advantage wrapped up yet. The Jets won and the Steelers lost, which makes the AFC wild card race more competitive. The Chiefs won, which means the Broncos don’t have the AFC West wrapped up yet. We’ve got a good game tonight when the Broncos play the Bengals, and we’re in for a good Week 17.

Brandon Marshall has had a heck of a career. Marshall helped the Jets beat the Patriots yesterday and in the process recorded the sixth 100-catch season of his career. He’s the only player in NFL history with six 100-catch seasons, and he’s done it for three different teams, the Jets, Bears and Broncos. No one else has even had 100 catches with two different teams. Marshall has also had a 1,200-yard season with four different teams and is the only player to do so; only Terrell Owens has even managed 1,200 yards with three different teams. Marshall hasn’t always been the best presence in the locker room (which is why he’s been on so many different teams) but from all indications he’s been a good teammate as a Jet. He’s a special player.

Two big trades for the Jets. The Jets traded a fifth-round pick for Marshall and a sixth-round pick for quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick this offseason, and those two have been arguably the two most important players on a Jets team that’s now one win from the playoffs. It’s remarkable how much the Jets improved themselves by trading two late-round picks.

We should have a measured conversation about human growth hormone. Peyton Manning is strongly denying a report that he took HGH, which is banned by the NFL. If he’s telling the truth, it’s terrible that his reputation is being smeared. If he’s lying, it’s going to catch up to him eventually, as lies about PEDs caught up to Lance Armstrong, Mark McGwire, and hundreds of other PED cheats in sports history. But I wish we could have a discussion about HGH that isn’t about Manning so much as it’s about what HGH does and whether it should be banned. There’s very little evidence that HGH actually enhances performance for a quarterback like Manning: Researchers studying the effects of HGH say the only athletes it seemed to help were sprinters, and if there’s one thing we can say about Manning over the last few years it’s that he doesn’t seem to have done anything that boosted his speed. Some people think HGH can help an athlete recover from an injury, but if that’s what it does, why should it be banned? We don’t ban vitamin supplements or cortisone shots.

The Lions can no longer justify Calvin Johnson’s salary. Johnson had 77 yards for the Lions in yesterday’s win over the 49ers, which is one of his best recent games. But that’s just the problem: Johnson has reached a point in his career where 77 yards is one of his best games. And yet at $20.6 million, Johnson’s cap hit is by far the biggest for any wide receiver in the NFL. That cap hit rises to more than $24 million next year, and there’s simply no way to justify paying a declining player anything close to that kind of money. There’s no way any other team would trade for a contract like Johnson’s, so unless Johnson is willing to take a massive pay cut next year, the Lions are going to have to cut him in the offseason. It sounds crazy to say Detroit would cut the great Megatron, but that’s life in the NFL.

Cam Newton runs like no other quarterback, ever. Newton scored the 41st rushing touchdown of his career yesterday, taking him one step closer to the NFL record for rushing touchdowns by a quarterback. The current record of 43, by Steve Young, will surely fall to Newton, likely some time early next season. This despite the fact that Newton has only played 77 games in his career, while Young played 169 games. Newton is a unique player in NFL history, even though he’s disappointed today that his team failed to accomplish something unique in NFL history.

105 responses to “NFL morning after: The ’72 Dolphins deserve to celebrate

  1. I think the American sports fan needs to have a conversation with the media about HGH. First, why on earth is anyone in American media following a story released by Al Jazeera? That just doesn’t make sense. Second, do you really think the majority of fans care how a player prepares to distract them from their lives every Sunday? We don’t. Take all the HGH you want.

    Cam Newton may be rushing for a lot of TD’s but there is no way he is even close to being as exciting or as good of a runner as Michael Vick was. Vick was insane when he would tuck the ball and run and he could juke defenders out of their jocks. Cam can’t do that. His runs are usually just straight line runs and then he’s so big that he can finish off runs strong, with his body. Cam is having a great season for sure but let’s pump the Canton and MVP breaks for a little bit.

  2. In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.

    Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated. And these days, he’s a sad attention seeking buffoon.

  3. Not to mention the Dolphins starting Hall of Fame QB went down and was replaced by a 38 year old for the next 11 games…

  4. “Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated. ”

    So true!! Look at the playoff stats for Marino’s playoff games with Shula as coach. Shula had the best throwing QB in the league for over 10 years & together they achieved and lost ONE Super Bowl.

  5. And what was the strength of schedule for the 1972 Dolphins?

    – The 1972 Dolphins, the NFL’s only undefeated Super Bowl Champ, faced the second easiest regular season schedule for a SB champ on their way to the playoffs (.357). They faced only two teams who ended over .500 and nine teams who ended under .500.

  6. screw the the dullfins! they have to be the most overrated nfl team of all time. great they did not lose a game but who did they play that season? they played 16 games not the 20 teams play today. the fact they played a far superior bears team in’85 and beat them means nothing. bears were playing without how many starters? for a game that did not mean anything the dullfins emptied out the retirement homes and jail cells to fill their sidelines with members of that team. talk about a lack of class on their part every year we hear the same crap from them as the last undefeated team goes down. does anybody hear from the last undefeated college basketball team? that would be the ’76 IU team and you do not hear them popping champagne every time the last undefeated team today loses. you will this year because it’s the 40th anniversary but they are a class act unlike the old geezers from ’72. when the best teams of all time are mentioned they are not included for a reason and that is it what they did was a fluke and nothing more.

  7. “Cam Newton may be rushing for a lot of TD’s but there is no way he is even close to being as exciting or as good of a runner as Michael Vick was. Vick was insane when he would tuck the ball and run and he could juke defenders out of their jocks. Cam can’t do that. His runs are usually just straight line runs and then he’s so big that he can finish off runs strong, with his body. Cam is having a great season for sure but let’s pump the Canton and MVP breaks for a little bit.”

    Cam is a QB first & a runner second. Vick was always a runner first & a poor excuse for a QB second.
    Cam Newton is John Elway built, 6’5″ 245.
    Vick is 6′ 185.
    Huge difference!!

    Cam looks for more than one receiver before tucking it, he waits much longer to “take off” from the pocket than Vick ever did because he wants to complete the pass like a QB!

    There is really very little similarity in their games. Cam is much more of a traditional passer, the kind that wins championships from the pocket or roll-out passing (Elway), not by taking off at the first sign of trouble.

  8. The Dolphins didn’t have to play 16 regular season games, did they?? Nope, they only played 14. So in my opinion, the Panthers tied the Dolphins 14-0 regular season record last week.
    Face it, the Dolphins simply had less games to play and a much easier path to success.

  9. From Wikipedia:
    “Statistically, the Dolphins’ 1972 regular-season opponents had an aggregate winning percentage of .397 and only two opponents had winning records (both the Kansas City Chiefs and New York Giants finished 8-6).”

    However, they had to go to Pittsburgh to play the 11-3 Steelers in the AFC Championship Game, which was probably the toughest game of the season for the Dolphins (partially reflected in the 21-17 scoreline).

    The Dolphins were helped with the regular season only being 14 games and being in the very weak AFC East where all of the clubs were a mess, but the fact that no (postmerger) team went undefeated or untied before, or has done since, speaks to how difficult a task it is, and what a huge achievement it was.

  10. “….trailed the Bills 13-7 at halftime. They won 24-23. In Week 10, the Dolphins trailed the Jets 24-21 in the fourth quarter. They won 28-24. In the playoffs, the Dolphins trailed the Browns 14-13 in the fourth quarter. They won 20-14….”
    =================================
    I was away in military service during the “run”. I didn’t realize there were such “dramatic” comebacks. Really?

  11. Until the playoffs raidersfan, when they won 3 games against teams with winning records. Including an AFCCG against the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Look it up.

  12. Dolphins fans also celebrated the Fins’ 2015 AFC East division win and Super Bowl win, but that was back in April.

  13. Cheers to the ’72 Dolphins and Don Shula. Truly awesome team accomplishment and one of the greatest coaches of all time.

    Johnny Manziel may or may not become a great QB. So many HOF QBs had horrible first and second seasons, but eventually learned to recognize what defenses were doing, and the game got so much easier. This is year 5 for Cam Newton, and he’s still getting better.

  14. The undefeated season of the ’72 Dolphins may be one of the most overrated accomplishments in sports. The real achievement of those Dolphin teams was going to three Superbowls in a row and winning two of them.

    The league has changed dramatically in terms of quality of competition. When a team eventually breaks through and goes undefeated again will be infinitely more impressive than the ’72 Dolphins.

    In the hierarchy of greatest teams in league history it is difficult to objectively put them in the top 10.

  15. The NFL is full of running “QB’s.” It’s ugly and it’ll only get worse, once Brees and Brady hang em up.

  16. Only coach with an undefeated team and the coach with the most wins in the history of the NFL. Here’s your in fairness footnote. Where would you like me to put it?

  17. This is why the organization will continue to be mediocre, they are too hung up on past success… In my opinion the whole organization from top to bottom needs to be gutted… Yes, I’m a Phins fan
    I feel like this is the only thing that they have going on down here

  18. History is important and I am proud that our franchise has the 72’s lets nor forget they were quite good in 71 & 73 and would have been probably most of the 70’s if we didn’t have a frugal owner who lost some key players when that new league that formed about this time. As for the 72’s not playing winning football teams during the Regular season, you will always find fault or lucky happenings in any great feat. They didn’t do to bad when they hit the playoffs, I presume there were a few good teams they had to overcome. But having said all this, what really matters to me is now and how bad we are. It’s pretty sad to think that all we can do is look back as Dolphin fans and this been the case for a really long time.

  19. No qb has ever run for a lot of yards or TD’s because no qb has ever WANTED to run for a lot of yards or TD’s. That’s not what NFL qb’s do. Good for Cam but let’s keep this in perspective.

    This is the Tebow argument, or the argument for a chick hoops coach. Dedicating your life to doing something no one has ever wanted to do, that no one cares about, isn’t really an accomplishment.

  20. The 1972 Dolphins would lose to any team in the NFL today, they didn’t play anyone that year. Time to forget about these old geezers. They were so overrated. Araidersfan is correct, they didn’t play a single team with a winning record.

  21. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM

    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.
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    They also didn’t have to play 19 games.

  22. Araidersfan there should also be a footnote noting the phins had to go to Pittsburgh to play the AFC Championship game. Beating the Steelers in the 70s in Pittsburgh was not easy. Also they did play teams with winning records and also beat the best team in the NFC. I’m not too sure how you call the coach with the most wins in NFL history overrated either. It doesn’t make sense.

  23. I believe the following is true:

    The Dolphins went 17-0 with a schedule against only 3 winning teams.

    The Patriots went 18-0 with a schedule against 9 winning teams.

    For what it’s worth.

  24. My understanding is that HGH is more a recovery thing. I don’t quite understand why it can’t be just a part of modern medicine and widely used. If I can go get HGH without any issues to recover from an injury, why is it an issue for a professional athlete to use it?

  25. The 72 Dolphins are one of if not the most overrated team in football history. Their opponents winning percentage was horrible at .385 (It was under .400) and they only played 2 winning teams in 14 (Kansas City and N.Y. Giants). They were a good team. Not a great team. I wouldn’t even consider them a top 10 all time team. There are some Super Bowl losers that were better teams than them. (Most notably the 07 Pats team, which is the last great team I’ve seen)

  26. LOL at mentioning Mike Vick.

    Mike Vick should, and will only ever be remembered as a dog killing, pathetic, piece of trash. Yes, he had some great runs, but in the end, it always ended in disappointment or injury.

    Please don’t ever compare him to my QB again.

    #KeepPounding

  27. Wow Manning gets into a report on HGH & the response is that we should study why not to use it like Vitamins & Cortisones…

    If it was Brady…he’d have been banned for life by now…

    Not really a PATS fan…but the 2-sided obnoxiousness is obvious!

  28. “You can argue that the ’72 Dolphins weren’t the best team in NFL history precisely because they were involved in a lot of close games. The ’72 Dolphins weren’t a dominant team like the ’85 Bears, a wrecking crew that crushed the opposition, but the ’72 Dolphins were the only team in NFL history that found a way to win, every single week.”

    I’d say Winning all of your games and being first in points and yards on both offense and defense is pretty dominant.

    The Bears and Patriots “dominance” tainted by losing to teams who knew exactly how to stop what made them dominate in the first place.

    “In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.”

    The 8-6 Giants and Chiefs don’t count?

  29. I love the fins and have been a fan since i was a kid but football has changed a lot….with the salary cap it truly is any given sunday.

  30. Meh. They had a 14 game season vs. the 16 game reg season now. The game is tougher now. The players are bigger and faster. The 72 Dolphins also played before the salary cap era.

  31. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM
    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.

    Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated. And these days, he’s a sad attention seeking buffoon.

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    Truer words have never been written on this site. So much was made of Shula and his 300 wins as an HC. Well, Shula was a head coach for about 700 years, so yeah 300 wins not so big and scary. Shula presided over a lot of mediocrity and rode the undefeated season meme to a lot of unwarranted applause.

    It’s a lot harder to go undefeated now because of the longer season and the league’s competitive balance today is much closer. Most sane fans are more impressed to see what teams like the Pats and the Panthers can achieve in today’s far more competitive and talented NFL.

    Today’s Jacksonville Jaguars would obliterate the ’72 Dolphins.

    Plus, all those old codgers arrogantly popping the Champagne party and having some big public display of “look at me” always gave me the creeps.

  32. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM
    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.

    Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated. And these days, he’s a sad attention seeking buffoon.

    First off that’s not true, the Giants had a winning record. But it’s really irrelevant as they still went through the postseason and beat everyone they came across. Get over it they didn’t lose a game it has never been done no matter how soft a teams schedule has been, ever.

    Secondly how can you sit there and say with a straight face a coach who won 347 games and is in the top ten of all time coaching winning percentages is vastly overrated? What exactly does a coach have to do to earn something more than good in your eyes?

  33. I love the 72 Dolphins. If a team is to do the same, I would not want it to be the Panthers. Something about Newton bugs me. The Saints, Cardinals, goodness, even the Jaguars I would support. But no Panthers.

  34. On the HGH, the documentary does link Manning to HGH, but the link has since denied it. The links to the Packers are more solid through two sources.

    On Megatron. He will stay. The Lions have enough cap space even without a restructuring. As for his productivity. He creates a lot of space for others, and Stafford has progressed enough that he is likely to choose the path of least resistance and risk.

  35. Apparently you didn’t notice the Cardinals rising to the top of the heap yesterday? Great. They’ll just continue to fly under the radar right into Santa Clara. It’ll all be over before anyone knows what hit ’em.

  36. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM
    …the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins…did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.
    Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated…
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    And a multiple cheat. Not only did he break the rules to sign for the Phins in the first place, he gained the moniker “Dirty Don” for his impropriety. For example, he was sued (along with Holmgren & others) for forcing players to take extra painkillers and other drugs 1970-1995. Then there’s stuff like Mudgate and Formationgate. So no saint, yet sips his bitter champagne every year, ridiculously accusing others of cheating.

  37. …….I don’t care what anyone says…the 1972 undefeated Miami Dolphins were a very special team. People forget how young of team they were…just 6 years from expansion. ….some would say i fall into that old fart catagorie but it reminds me of the great players of that era every time a modern NFL team thinks they may go undefeated. BTW…I love the BUCS and had to live through their 26 game losing streak in 1976-1977..so it ant all roses.

  38. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM
    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.

    Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated. And these days, he’s a sad attention seeking buffoon.

    armchairqb says:
    Dec 28, 2015 8:52 AM
    Truer words have never been written on this site.
    ___________________

    ‘Truer words’, lol. They played 2 teams with winning records the 8-6 Chiefs and the 8-6 Giants. There is no need to blow smoke, the .369 opponents winning % say it all.

    For Shula to be revered is disgusting. The guy was a scummy cheat. Among other things he was complicit in the tampering that brought him to Miami and threatened players with being cut if they didn’t get shot up with unprescribed painkillers and back on the field. He also flooded his field so he could beat the Jets in the Mud Bowl (’83 AFCCG the Fish had the superior running game and run D). If a coach tampered with the field today he would probably be executed.

  39. contender21open says:
    Dec 28, 2015 9:32 AM

    Undefeated ’72 Dolphins…

    …And all the negative comments in the world can’t change that.
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    Using facts aren’t negative comments. They didn’t play the same amount of games. Patriots went undefeated in more games than the Dolphins did.

  40. We Dolphins Fans have very little to cheer about these days, but

    WOW! Jealousy rears it’s ugly head!! If it is so easy and not an accomplishment then why has no team been able to do it? Here are some facts…

    – The Dolphins had to beat winning teams in the playoffs after being banged up and without Starters (sounds like today)

    – The Dolphins played an easy schefule- hmmm… So do the current Panthers and Patriots and Jets

    -the game is faster and tougher today?. I call BS on this one. The equipment was no where as protective and the rules against defenses didn’t exist. Just true smashmouth run game.

    -Finally, it is not their fault they played an easy schedule or only 16 games. All the other teams in 1972 had the same chance for Greatness. BTW- they dominated 1971,72 and 73. It was not a fluke.

    GET OVER YOURSELVES! Typical excuse makers trying to justify history . I was more than willing to Tip my Hat to the Panthers had they gone all the way.

  41. ’72 Fish schedule was a joke. Any one of a dozen SB winners could have been undefeated against that caliber of competition. Just stop with the idiocy.

  42. >>>araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM

    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.<<<

    The Jets (twice: 2-1, 6-3), Chargers (2-1-1) and Giants (7-5) all had winning records when they played the '72 Dolphins. The Dolphins contributed to their losses.

  43. Don Shula was a good HC but was/is vastly overrated. And these days, he’s a sad attention seeking buffoon.
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    Great line.

    The 14-0 Panthers this year and the 18-0 Patriots of 2007 both would have destroyed the 1972 Dolphins. Different eras and all that but really, beating 14 teams under .500? Tough road.

  44. Finally, it is not their fault they played an easy schedule or only 16 games.
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    Not their fault, but doesn’t make it any less true. Who knows what would have happened if they had to play two more games.

  45. Oh please. Shulacheat should never have been the coach of the Fins and he was fully complicit in the tampering that got him there. He cheated to leave Baltimore and Baltimore got the Fins first round pick and Shula was fined.

    By the standards of pft planet everything Shula did with the Fins was tainted.

  46. Undefeated teams are like catching lighting in a bottle – However or wherever it happens it has it’s own special magic and there’s never a rational way of explaining it.

  47. What’s with the HGH talk? It’s not a steroid, it’s used with steroids.

    Dolphins need to get over it. Their brand of football wouldn’t win today. Although I will say it was an era where men were men

  48. For all of you posting the Pats record of 18-0 and the Panthers record of 14-0
    We are no concerned about the number on the Left we are concerned about the number on the right!
    Pats 18-1
    Panthers 14-1
    It’s the ONE!

  49. Manning has been quoted as saying he’s furious about the report. Well, too d bad. He should be investigated fully by the league for possible hgh and steroids use, just like ANY OTHER player in the league would be. Why should he be the exception?

  50. Shula overrated. No salary cap, no free agency, no rules on D like today, fined a 1st rounder for breaking contract, sued for threatening players to play no matter how injured, flooding the field to gain a competitive advantage, on rules committee to circumvent rule changes detrimental to his team, had arguably the best pure passer in NFL history for 15 years and couldn’t win. winning 14 games versus 16 in the regular season is huge. The 85 Bears was the best team for my money.

  51. No, they don’t. They didn’t play anybody who won more than 8 games until the playoffs. They only played a 14 game season. I’m really sick of hearing about the ancient Dolphins team.

  52. The ’72 Dolphins were the most fortunate team in NFL history. They went undefeated because they played a weak schedule and then an old team in the Super Bowl.

    They were a good team, but anyone who saw them — and I did — knows fully well they were not nearly as good as the Packers of the 60’s, the Steelers of the 70’s, the Niners of the 80’s, the cowboys of the 90’s, or the Patriots of the last decade.

    And the ’85 Bears would have crushed them.

    Any one of those teams would have beaten them soundly. So, toast yourself all you want boys, it’s your right. But NFL fans know that you had Lady Luck on your side and that you won, but you simply weren’t all that good.

  53. cinzano08 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 10:44 AM

    The 85 Bears was the best team for my money.

    ______________________________________

    The Bears had a great defense, but a very average offense.

    Did you see Lombardi’s Packers or Noll’s Steelers? Those were great teams for many years and they’d have beaten the ’85 Bears. So would the 90’s Cowboys.

  54. mksnpcola says:
    Dec 28, 2015 10:33 AM
    For all of you posting the Pats record of 18-0 and the Panthers record of 14-0
    We are no concerned about the number on the Left we are concerned about the number on the right!
    Pats 18-1
    Panthers 14-1
    It’s the ONE!

    Thank you Mercury Morris, you’re as good as the 34 Bears.

  55. Yes there have been several teams that were probably better than the Dolphins, but the fact is they accomplished something no other team has ever done. Who really cares if they are proud of that and want to celebrate it every year?

  56. Unchained81 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 7:27 AM

    72 Dolphins are done. The Patriots were 18-0, Miami 17-0. End of story.
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    The story doesn’t end there. One team won the SB to remain undefeated. The other didn’t. I’ll let you figure out which one. End of story.

  57. My God you people are either illiterate or just stupid. No one is saying they are the greatest of all time. There were many teams throughout NFL history that would/could have beaten them. The fact of the matter is that no one did. That is the special feat. It’s not who they played or weather or not you think they should have played a tougher schedule. No one has accomplished that feat to this day. That alone is the only point of this, not to debate weather or not they were the GOAT. Because all these teams you have mentioned that were the best all lost at least one game. You know who didn’t? the 72′ Dolphins, Until someone else can repeat that feat prepare to hear all about the one magical undefeated team in NFL history so deal with it

  58. Mo’ Pro Babble says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:11 AM
    The 72′ Dolphins are as relevant as the 34 Bears

    1934 Bears lost

  59. There ain’t no black superman & no undefeated Carolina team either!!! Pretty humble now ain’t ya Cam!!! THE DOLPHINS ARE STILL THE ONLY UNDEFEATED TEAM EVER!!!

  60. The ’07 Pats went undefeated in the regular season with their starting future HOF QB intact. The ’72 Fins went undefeated largely with an aging retread QB.

    Oh, and the ’72 Fins won that little game at the end called the Super Bowl. The ’07 Pats crapped their pants at the big dance.

    ’72 Fins >>>>>’07 Pats

  61. Well, let’s see…..the NFL has been around since 1920 (96 seasons) and no one before 1972 or after has gone undefeated. An accomplishment that speaks for itself!

    For the idiots that say the 1972 Dolphins would be beaten by teams these days, that probably goes without saying. You are comparing an era 40 years ago that did not have the technology, medical advances, etc.

    I will say this. Shula teams were generally known for great work ethic (four a days), discipline (led the league pretty much every year in least penalties), great technique and knowledgeable schemes.

    Unfortunately, the game of football has been diluted with expansion, ‘roided athletes, money grubbing commissioners. Not even close to the brand of football of the era gone by.

  62. 1) This is the 2nd week in a row Manziel has gone into a hostile environment (SEA and KC) and kept a terrible team somewhat competitive

    2) It’s fair to wonder if he’ll ever be a good NFL QB but irresponsible to say he can’t be one. He’s started 7 games in his NFL career, a number of starts which highlights just how badly the Browns have mismanaged this kid (no, Manziel hasn’t exactly helped himself out either)

    3) It’s difficult to realistically evaluate Manziel due to heinous offensive personnel with which he’s surrounded in Cleveland. Tom Brady couldn’t win with that offense

  63. lingsun54 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:41 AM
    It’s classless how the celebrate when the last undefeated team goes down.
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    They don’t. That is an ESPN/Berman thing they have done every year for quite some time. Berman even pretends to hold a bottle while the sound effect plays.

    The ’72 Dolphins may have done it once, in 1985, after the Dolphins beat the last undefeated team (Bears) in a game which many of them attended. You should direct your hatred where it belongs, towards ESPN or that Nipsy Russell lookalike (Mercury Morris) that uses a long unbeaten streak to get his own publicity spouting stupidity.

  64. Going undefeated was a tremendous achievement, no doubt – but seriously…do they really have to make it such a big deal each and every year? It’s like it’s the only worthwhile thing these guys have left and it’s almost sad in a way.

    When the record does finally fall (and trust me, it will eventually) that for these guys’ sake it doesn’t happen until they’re all gone.

  65. Pats fan here.

    Raise your glasses you old geezers – your record is still intact. You earned it!!

    To all those who clam the best teams today would beat the 1972 Dolphins – given that those who are still alive are all at least 66 years old and a goodly number of them are dead, that wouldn’t be too difficult. (sarc warning)

    BTW – I am an old geezer and proud and happy for that, not to mention grateful!!

  66. UNDEFEATED is UNDEFEATED! Perfection is possible, but all the other great teams like the 83 49ers, the 85 Bears and the 07 Patriots all came up 1 game short. It doesn’t detract in any way from their greatness! The simple fact of the matter is that winning a Super Bowl must be an incredible feeling; completing a “Perfect Season” has to feel like something even greater than just winning a Super Bowl by virtue of the fact that it is a feat that can “Never” be eclipsed. It can only be tied! The 72 Dolphins do indeed have good reason to celebrate, and quite frankly I do believe that they would love to have some company and not have to do it alone!

  67. Different coaches, different players, different era (re: undefeated ‘Phins). If Trent Dilfer can help a team win a Super Bowl — or if Rex Grossman, no disrespect, can help a team get to a Super Bowl, then the sky’s the limit with Manziel. This end-of-season has gotten a lot more interesting. With regard to Brandon Marshall and “CheckDown King” Ryan “Fitz”-patrick, they’re one-and-done, seriously, if they make the playoffs (“sexy” Rex Ryan will be the thorn in their side, believe me lol). Big Bro didn’t play that season when he allegedly “went-off-the-grid” to rehab his neck surgery(ies), so… “Megatron” will likely stay in Detroit, see no reason why they’d want to just rely on Golden Tate to get the receiver duties done. And regarding “Superman” aka AceBoogie aka Cam(eron) Newton: it’s yo’ thang… do what cha wanna do… a loss to the Falcons, ain’t gonna mess with yo’ groove.

  68. I love the hate for the ’72 Fins, because you may as well say, we admit the Dolphins have something awesome that we haven’t surpassed. Thing is, the reason they’re “Old Geezers” is because it’s been 43 years and it has yet to be repeated.

    If you’re whining about strength of schedule, they played the schedule they were given. The patriots played a two touchdown underdog in the Super Bowl, and just like the Panthers yesterday, lost to an inferior opponent. You know undefeated would have meant more the the SB win, admit it (LOL).

    Unless some other team does it, even when they pass away they will do so with the knowledge that no one else achieved what they did in their lifetime. Even so, each and every year every one of you that see the final “undefeated” team loose, for as long as it goes on, will always remember them, like it or not.

    17-0 undefeated Super Bowl Champs, do it or shut it, you’re embarrassing yourself.

  69. Patriots 18-0…sorry missed the minor detail of that super bowl loss to the N.Y. Giants. I’m thinking 18-1 means your NOT undefeated.

  70. Wow…sad to see how bitter and petty fans can be… fanboy jealousy aside, ONE FACT REMAINS:

    no one else has ever done it, in any sport, ever

    AGAIN: no one else has done it, in any sport, ever

    congrats to the unbeaten ’72 Fins…

  71. Ravens fan here. Raising my glass to the ’72 Dolphins and to fellow geezer 1historian. Great post!

  72. For all you guys that seem to think the 72 Dolphins were not a dominant team, all you have to do is look up the stats for that era. They were the number 1 offense and defense during that year. They averaged an astounding 211 yards per game rushing the ball. They didn’t have to throw that much because they punished you with the rushing game. Teams knew that Miami was going to run the ball, but they couldn’t stop them. Another interesting stat of that era was they won 27 straight home games which is a record that still stands today. On top of that they led the nfl in scoring offense and defense that year. In the NFL there’s always going to be close games, but the bottom line is can you close them out and take home the W. That’s the difference between the Dolphins and the rest of the NFL. New England learned that lesson. By the way Don Shula had only 1 losing season in 33 years.

  73. Wow, lots of folks are all of a sudden faithful dolphin fans? Always comes around whenever a team gets close.

    Must be tough, not having a team to cheer for beyond one from 40+ years ago.

  74. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM
    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.
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    Wrong. The Chiefs and Giants both finished 8-6. Still, I agree, not all that impressive when put in that context.

  75. If they want to celebrate let them. Its a helluva accomplishment. I nean the Panthers lost to a scrub team yesterday and the Fins beat all the scrub teams in front of them. Not to mention they still had to beat winning teams in the playoffs. Enough said. And to everyone calling them classless, get over yourselves. You’re the same people defending Cam for his dancing and dabbing when he has accomplished nothing of significance in his career. Basically justifying it by saying if you dont him to do it, then stop him. Well newsflash geniuses, no one stopped the 72 fins

  76. araidersfan says:
    Dec 28, 2015 6:38 AM
    In fairness, when mention is made of the ‘spectacular’ 1972 Miami Dolphins there should be the footnote that they did not face a single team with a winning record during the entire ’72 regular season.
    *******************************************
    Wrong. The Chiefs and Giants both finished 8-6. Still, I agree, not all that impressive when put in that context.
    -__________________________________________

    “not all that impressive”? then why hasnt ANY team besides the 72 Fins done it?

  77. Mo’ Pro Babble says:
    Dec 28, 2015 3:03 PM
    Wow, lots of folks are all of a sudden faithful dolphin fans? Always comes around whenever a team gets close.

    Must be tough, not having a team to cheer for beyond one from 40+ years ago
    ______________________________________

    yeah it totally sucks.

    Eight of Ross ownership=8 years of mediocre/bad football. Only Cleveland has a worse owner than the Fins.

    so yep its nice to have the 72 Fins though

  78. The 2015 Panthers have played two good teams this year – The Seahawks and the Packers. And the Panthers went to overtime against the 2015 Colts!

    Panthers fans ask why the team hasn’t been getting their due props? Because they’ve had a weak schedule. Congratulations on 14-1 (soon to be 14-2). That is impressive. None of the teams in the NFL are cupcakes. But, the Panthers haven’t been playing the best teams in the NFL. They’ll have to really up their game to make it through the playoffs.

  79. Johnny Manziel is a QB with average skills at best, along with a ten cent head. I’m thinking he’ll be out of the league before too long, unless Jerrah Jones decides he’d like another loser to back up Tony Romo.

  80. bradyakagod says:
    Dec 28, 2015 1:40 PM

    2007 pats played in a salary cap times and 72 dolphins didn’t.
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    What most of todays fans may not be old enough to remember is the World Football League. In 74 the WFL was looking to start a competing league to the NFL, by offering what at the time was huge contracts to the best NFL players. Players such as Ken Stabler, LC Greenwood, Calvin Hill, and Brian Dowling. They also got from Miami, Larry Czonka, Paul Warfield, and Jim Kick. For long time football fans, those names are very familiar.

    If you think losing a good player to the salary cap hurts, imagine losing 3 top players, with no compensation or free agency to find replacements. Had that not occurred, it’s not inconceivable that the Fins would have had 2 or 3 more Lombardi’s.

  81. To all of you talking heads commenting about the strength of schedule for the ’72 Miami Dolphins,
    Someone sounds jealous…

  82. bonniebengal says:
    Dec 28, 2015 8:49 AM

    Meh. They had a 14 game season vs. the 16 game reg season now. The game is tougher now. The players are bigger and faster. The 72 Dolphins also played before the salary cap era.
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    The game was considerably tougher back then. True the player are bigger and faster, but the current rules make it a softer game. Back then, a D-lineman could legally strike the O-line and QB in the head. Back then, roughing the passer was only if you hit him long after the whistle. Back then, DB’s could molest the receivers the whole play and there was no such thing as “defenseless” players. So while todays rules make the game safer, many players today might not have survived 17 games back then.

  83. qbarrel says:
    Dec 28, 2015 12:47 PM
    Going undefeated was a tremendous achievement, no doubt – but seriously…do they really have to make it such a big deal each and every year? It’s like it’s the only worthwhile thing these guys have left and it’s almost sad in a way
    __________________________________________

    Have you followed the Fins the last 10 years? as a Fins fan, I’m grateful to have ANYTHING to hang onto….so yeah its pretty sad, being Fins Fan these days….

  84. Yes, the Dolphins didn’t play but a few teams during the regular season with winning records but that wasn’t their fault. The played and beat everyone they were scheduled against regular season and post season. Was the Patriots 18-1 season better than the Dolphins 17-0, nope. Gotta win the Super Bowl to be in the conversation. Those who say they played fewer games back then, that is true but if you include post season games the 71-73 Dolphins won more games while playing fewer games than the 1984 Niners, 1985 Bears and 2007 Patriots using any 3 year span for those teams. The 71-73 Dolphins played 51 games and went 44-6-1. The o5-07 Pats played 56 and went 43-13, 06-08 Pats played 54 and went 43-11, 07-09 Pats played 52 and went 39-13. Also, the 72 Dolphins came back the next year and won the Super Bowl again. It took the 85 Bears almost 3 years to win another post season game, it took the 84 Niners and 07 Patriots almost 4 years to win another post season game.

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