Should Peyton Manning have gone the “no comment” route?

AP

To say the past two days have been bizarre for Peyton Manning would require consideration of the fact that plenty of bizarre things happen on a regular basis in the NFL. Even then, it’s still been bizarre.

As bizarre as the original Al Jazeera report has been Manning’s aggressive, emotional, and persistent response, with comments from agent Tom Condon provided to Al Jazeera and then a personal statement from Manning via the Broncos and then White House press secretary turned sports P.R. consultant Ari Fleischer chiming in and then the Broncos, the Colts, and the Guyer Institute issuing statement. Along the way, the guy who was secretly recorded implicating Manning has recanted his claims. (Which hardly means that he believes what he said while being secretly recorded is false.)

“I simply do not understand how somebody makes up something like this and it becomes a story,” Manning told Peter King of TheMMQB.com in one of the three interviews Manning has done since the story broke. “And then the guy admits he made it up and it’s still a story. How exactly does that work?

The answer lies in the preceding paragraph. By engaging the story and strongly, repeatedly disputing it, Manning and those who either were doing what he wanted or what they believed he wanted continued to give the story legs.

If the goal was to get no one to write about the story, the approach shouldn’t have been to issue statements. It should have been to pick up the phone and call every reporter with any degree of influence or credibility and persuade them to leave it alone. That’s what Fleischer should have been doing.

Instead, Fleischer has presided over a very public, very high-profile response, which caused an Al Jazeera curiosity to morph into a major, dominant story line. (Coincidentally, or not, we’re now all reminded that Ari Fleischer is available to assist with P.R. problems for sports figures.)

How much would have been said about the story if Peyton, his agent, Fleischer, the Broncos, the Colts, and the Guyer Institute had said nothing? Frankly, PFT wouldn’t have even written a story about it if the response had been “no comment” from Manning, Manning’s representative, the Broncos, the Colts, or the NFL. And there’s no way NBC’s Football Night in America would have devoted several minutes to the issue if Manning had opted not to speak on the matter.

Manning’s legendary desire for control apparently caused him to choose aggressive action over inaction. And that’s his prerogative. Still, he shouldn’t be surprised that the plan of action that he and those close to him and associated executed has resulted in the creation of quotes that people in the media business would choose to publicize.

Peyton Manning should consider that reality when contemplating saying anything more about the case. And he definitely should consider it if he chooses to make good on his vow to sue over the Al Jazeera report.

119 responses to “Should Peyton Manning have gone the “no comment” route?

  1. Bret Favre had a pharmaceutical truck backed up to his house. There’s the guy they should be looking at.

  2. That approach worked for Lance Armstrong for a while, too.

    Letting the story die would probably have been the smart thing to do.

  3. i really don’t like how false accusations can ruin a persons life. Really? They have to stop what their doing to disprove some false accusations…just so you can write a story about it and get paid?

    Dear God, it just gets worse. First it’s false sexual assault claims now everything is up from grabs. Wonder if I should go to the press about my dream of sleeping with Beyoncé. You a guy was in jail for years because a woman alleged she had a dream he slept with her.

  4. No comment is the way to go. Hiring people to deny for you sounds like spin control. Truly innocent people don’t have to respond as the reporters will dig for the truth and get it. No I’m not talking about ESPN but reputable journalists with no allegiances will get to the bottom of this.

  5. When someone gets accused and says nothing critics all say, “Why isn’t he screaming at the top of his lungs that this is bogus.” Manning did that.

  6. Ironic or coincidental, Peyton’s newest dilemma is showing the argument to make in regards to deflategate.

    If the patriots/Brady were innocent in regards to the alleged deflategate scheme, they would have shouted and proclaimed innocence from the start. As opposed to taking this, “prove it…” mentality.

    If the Patriots/Brady were 100% innocent in regards to deflategate, they would have proved their innocence as opposed to letting the story/issue spin more and more out of control as they took the back seat with their mouth sewed shut.

  7. Riiight…. Because I’m sure this would be a non-story if he just didn’t talk about it.

    Whether you believe Manning or not, it was a published report about him that was already making national headlines. His coaches, team, and himself would have been asked about it virtually everytime they took the podium or had a press conference over the next few weeks. If you imply that everyone saying “no comment” would allow this to blow away, I think your dead wrong.

    In my opinion, “no comment” basically means “I did it and don’t want to dig a deeper hole by further lying”.

    By him denying it, at least it is now plausible to say he didn’t do it whether you believe him or not. I couldn’t say the same if he said “no comment”.

  8. His response explains why he has not been effective in pressure games, such as the playoffs. His emotions get the better of him. Yet some criticized how Tom Brady responded to the false allegations against him. Tom waited to get to federal court to deny the lies & tell the truth, under oath.
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  9. The response may have been over the top and might have been handled with a bit more subtlety….

    But I don’t believe for a second that simply saying “no comment” would let the story die.

  10. This “Sly” guy also said he brought up Derek Jeters name as well, and didn’t know why Peytons name made it in the report but not Jeters…

    Is anyone questioning Jeter??

  11. The thing that people is not considering is that his wife may have had HGH treatment for infertility (note that I said she might), so obviously this touched a nerve. Still, if I am being accussed of something I didn’t do, I will also loudly claim my innocence.

  12. He did it. Do you really think his wife took HGH for years? C’mon.

    It doesn’t matter. He took it to help heal a serious injury. It wasn’t tested for at the time, and I’m sure half the league was or is doing it.

    Peyton is still great in my eyes. First ballot. That being said, I hope BSPN and the NFL gang go after him with the same zealous fervor with which they are going after Brady and the Pats. Integrity of the game, after all, is soooooooo important to Goodell.

  13. Peyton was generally aware and needs to be suspended 4 games period. Right Roger. What a joke of a story I hardly think Peyton used HGH. James Harrison and others absolutely yes.

  14. “Frankly, PFT wouldn’t have even written a story about it if the response had been “no comment” from Manning, Manning’s representative, the Broncos, the Colts, or the NFL. And there’s no way NBC’s Football Night in America would have devoted several minutes to the issue if Manning had opted not to speak on the matter.”

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    Yeah, right. You would have been saying “OMG, what is Manning hiding? Why doesn’t he just issue a statement denying the allegations if he’s truly innocent? He should learn from Tom Brady that remaining silent is not the right way to go.”

  15. “If the Patriots/Brady were 100% innocent in regards to deflategate, they would have proved their innocence”

    How exactly do you prove a negative?

  16. lets not lose focus here1….. tom brady is the greatest quarterback ever and 2……goodell has to be fired!!!!

    2b/….gump cheats

  17. Every athlete I’ve heard comment about something like this says that if they were falsely accused they would be screaming from the rooftops that their innocent. So Manning does that and he gets criticized? NO way I would just sit back and ignore it either.

  18. blackandbluedivision says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:10 AM

    i really don’t like how false accusations can ruin a persons life. Really? They have to stop what their doing to disprove some false accusations…just so you can write a story about it and get paid?

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    How do you know the accusations are false? Plenty of athletes have gone the scorched earth denial route, only to eventually be proven liars.

    (Not accusing Manning of anything, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had used HGH to recover from injury. Maybe it’s time for the NFL to approve HGH for injury treatment?)

  19. Yet some criticized how Tom Brady responded to the false allegations against him. Tom waited to get to federal court to deny the lies & tell the truth, under oath.

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    I guess you missed the extensive press conference where Tom Brady claimed that he was innocent and didn’t consider himself a cheater.

  20. As Dewey Cox would say… “Guilty as charged”.

    Seriously though who knows if he did it or not. I believe there is the possibility given his competitiveness and desire to return to the game to break the all time passing records. I would point to this season as proof of his competitiveness and how he returned knowing full well he know longer had any gas in the tank (or was it HGH).

  21. I take no joy in these circumstances and only find interest in how it has been handled by some in the media and their willingness to believe the NFL’s sad sack loser of a poster boy while other’s have been falsely accused and the media is more than willing to drive the bus over them, then back up and do it again, and again, and again…

  22. When the NFL finds him guilty, i will say his legacy is tainted. Until then Brady fans, relax, its a story- thats all. And keep in mind this guy said Peyton used in ’11 while not on any team- if he isnt employed by the NFL then he didnt break any rules. Its not cheating if ur not breaking any rules, Brady cheated, so far Peyton “may have” used HGH while not employed by the nfl lol. If Favre used HGH after he retired and before he returned then i wouldnt say he was cheating either.

  23. LOL. Sucks when the shoe is on your foot, doesn’t it, Patriots haters?

    I couldn’t care less whether Manning took HGH or not. The only thing I care about is the hypocrisy and double standards of the media and the idiotic fans that believe anything in print. Cris Carter and Tom Jackson saying Peyton would never do such a thing, Peyton is innocent until proven guilty, should have said the same thing about Tom Brady. But they didn’t. They perpetuated the lies and false media info.

    So, as a Patriots fan, I want the same scrutiny by the NFL, the reporters, bloggers, analysts, talking heads, and fans as Brady got.

  24. TWO THINGS:

    1) ari fleischer has a giant history of lying during his employment with the bush administration

    2) GIANT FOREHEAD

  25. For anyone saying “Manning*” with an astricks, I have a serious question for you…

    Lets assume you’re right and he took the HGH. How did he cheat? What rule did he break?? HGH was not a banned substance at the time this was alleged.

  26. as much as I would love this story to be true, highly doubt peyton took at PED’s.

    With that said, the way the league, every news outlet, and the general NFL community immediately disregarded the report and basically downplayed everything from the beginning shows how protected goody boy peyton is.

    Cannot help but compare the reactions to two “scandals” involving two of the best QB’s in history. Anything Patriots related will be blown up to monumental proportions…but no way golden boy peyton would ever be involved in some so heinous.

  27. As far as the eye test goes, he certainly doesn’t look like he’s on HGH with those skinny arms and legs. Show me a positive test result for HGH or there’s nothing to see here.

  28. I love/hate Peyton. He made life more interesting as a competitor and Brady’s ultimate rival. He’s funny on TV. Seems like a decent man. But look how quick people turn on him.

    Welcome to TB12 ville Peyton. Now you can add “victim of a witch hunt?” to your resume. That’s your reward for beating the snot out of everyone (but the Pats) over 15+ years.

    When TB & PM are gone we will left with Newton, Dalton & Wilson as the premier QB’s? Can you imagine if TB or PM had been gifted with the running abilities of these other guys?

    Oh well, maybe Jimmy G?

  29. “If the goal was to get no one to write about the story, the approach shouldn’t have been to issue statements. It should have been to pick up the phone and call every reporter with any degree of influence or credibility and persuade them to leave it alone. That’s what Fleischer should have been doing. … How much would have been said about the story if Peyton, his agent, Fleischer, the Broncos, the Colts, and the Guyer Institute had said nothing?”

    I respectfully disagree. This story was being covered already – when it landed on Peyton’s desk. If the greatest NFL passer of all time, with a squeaky clean image, is getting called out for cheating — a “No Comment” will sure as heck NOT bury the story. This isn’t the carousing New York Yankees of the late fifties any more, where Mantle, Martin and company’s exploits could be “protected” by friendly media.

    Some stories don’t take much to get launched – stories spread fast in the Twitter/Social Media era of today. Burying stories is much harder than in the mesozoic era.

    Witness semi-unknown comedian Hannibal Buress’s on-stage comments about Bill Cosby’s (alleged) sexual practices. Cosby tried to give “No Comment” responses over and over again, but the story would not go away — and continued to take on a life of its own. Now, about 50 or more woman have accused Cosby of sexual assault.

    None of Cosby’s early “No Comment” responses worked, nor did the “I won’t dignify that with a response” effort — which is essentially the equivalent of Peyton’s “I won’t be losing any sleep over it” effort he first tried.

    So now that it already WAS a story, Peyton hired Fleischer, a very highly paid specialist in damage control. There seem to be messages that can be read into that move too.

  30. “truthfactory says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:13 AM
    In my opinion, “no comment” basically means “I did it and don’t want to dig a deeper hole by further lying”.

    By him denying it, at least it is now plausible to say he didn’t do it whether you believe him or not. I couldn’t say the same if he said “no comment”.
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    The counter is that if he’s screaming from the rooftops that he’s innocent, sues and bullies everyone, holds angry press conferences, sics Archie on any media person, AND it turns out he’s guilty, then his legacy goes poof. Worked out well for Lance Armstrong, right?

  31. ” White House press secretary turned sports P.R. consultant Ari Fleischer chiming in”

    Nothing says “I’m innocent” more than hiring the guy who orchestrated the campaign to lie to the world about WMDs in Iraq.

  32. ootballfanatic says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:29 AM
    When the NFL finds him guilty, i will say his legacy is tainted. Until then Brady fans, relax, its a story- thats all. And keep in mind this guy said Peyton used in ’11 while not on any team- if he isnt employed by the NFL then he didnt break any rules. Its not cheating if ur not breaking any rules, Brady cheated, so far Peyton “may have” used HGH while not employed by the nfl lol. If Favre used HGH after he retired and before he returned then i wouldnt say he was cheating either.

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    Every point is false. Brady did not cheat – absolutely no proof, as admitted by the NFL in open court. Btw, Brady testified, under oath, to his innocence. Insisted on his testimony being sworn (a guilty person would not volunteer and insist on sworn testimony). And Peyton WAS on a team in 2011. Was paid a hefty sum by the Colts to sit out a year, go to Europe and inject his neck with fetus stem cells and, possibly, HGH.

    Btw, where is Brenda now proclaiming peyton’s “integrity?”

  33. I guess you missed the extensive press conference where Tom Brady claimed that he was innocent and didn’t consider himself a cheater
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    I guess you missed that Tom did not pull Payton and Issue statements & go on ESPN. He was in the middle of a playoff run doing mandatory press conferences BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

  34. truthfactory says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:33 AM
    ……

    Lets assume you’re right and he took the HGH. How did he cheat? What rule did he break?? HGH was not a banned substance at the time this was alleged.

    HGH use was illegal in the NFL in 2011 and well before 2011. Of course, we already had this debate, yet you keep posting the same lie over and over

    In 2011 there was a CBA agreement for HGH testing, but any known use of HGH by NFL players had already been illegal for years.

  35. The denial is ‘the tell’.

    A pro athlete who didn’t do anything wrong would say this is just the world I live in and go back to doing his job.

    The guilty ones doth protest a tad too much…

  36. Any comment from the Packers named. Clearly, Sly’s reported connection to Mike Neal is verifiable.

  37. truthfactory says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:33 AM
    For anyone saying “Manning*” with an astricks, I have a serious question for you…

    Lets assume you’re right and he took the HGH. How did he cheat? What rule did he break?? HGH was not a banned substance at the time this was alleged.

    Then why did Rodney Harrison get suspended for it in 2007?

  38. lwstarr says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:32 AM

    Your picking a couple specific analysts to make a point. The fact is when the story first broke about Tom Brady everyone had an opinion. Some analysts said it was non sense, some thought he was guilty. Same as this case with Peyton. The fact is there was a large scale investigation with Tom, he was found GUILTY by the NFL, not by espn, not by a few specific analysts, but by the NFL, and goodell who is krafts BFF. I dont know if Peyton did this, but if the nfl does an investigation and decides he did- then ill believe them and ill see Peyton as a tainted legacy. Just the way i saw the patriots when FOUND GUILTY of spygate and now brady when FOUND GUILTY of of deflategate. Stories are fine and all, but lets see if Peyton is found guilty. And no a judge did not find Tom innocent, a judge decided Roger had too much power- at no point was the case about Tom’s innocence or guilt- it was technicalities and about the NFL only. (i hate our legal system- ppl get let off on technicalities too often)

  39. He’s 100% guilty and he won’t sue because it’ll all come out at the trial.

    He did say he’s “angry enough that he might sue” though.

  40. Irony, ol’ Peyton fans. Irony. No one is exempt from contradictions.

    Now about that Thomas “Winston Churchill” Brady fella again. No matter how many incendiary media bombs dropped over-head by envious former players and propaganda sports-outlets; no matter the blitzing front-office mechanized stoolies push to sack him; no matter the Vichy-ruled NFL teams and their support of a corrupt regime; nor the countless foot-soldier following non-dialectical fanboys; no matter all of that, Thomas W.C. Brady, simply, will never surrender.

    God save

  41. I don’t know if he did it or not, he does seem to be protesting an awful lot. However, he does have a lot of time on his hands and energy that would normally be spent on an upcoming opponent has to go somewhere.

  42. Hahaha hes as bad as Roger Clemens now.

    What a lying cheat. Noone with an ounce of common sense believes his wife was the one taking the hgh. Tarnished forever

  43. There are no “routes” in 2015/2016 because anything anyone says elicites agreement, disagreement, or variations of neutrality. All we are creating is spin, clicks, and rhetoric until the next concrete event triggering the next wave of comments, until no one cares anymore.

  44. His wife needed the HGH prescribed by HIS own doctor at an anti aging clinic?

    Nah, still not buying it.

    #cheater

  45. tajuara says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:17 AM

    The thing that people is not considering is that his wife may have had HGH treatment for infertility (note that I said she might), so obviously this touched a nerve. Still, if I am being accussed of something I didn’t do, I will also loudly claim my innocence.
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    Anyone who is interested in this situation needs to know this.

    There is absolutely no way the drugs sent to Manning were for fertility therapy.

    They are used to treat only three specific instances of wasting disease-not for fertility. The drug is in a very narrow class of growth hormone drugs that can’t be prescribed off label. It is illegal for a doctor to prescribe it and is illegal for anyone to receive it for fertility.

    I haven’t seen any proof that she was suffering from the advanced stages of HIV or that she has had major sections of her colon removed due to cancer or that she has had pituitary cancer.

  46. Peyton’s reputation is ruined and there’s little he can do about it. There’s no winning here for him. No comment won’t fly and strongly defending himself doesn’t seem to be cutting it.

    Peyton is probably guilty. I personally don’t see the big deal with HGH, so this doesn’t change my opinion of him as a QB.

    I just wish he (and other athletes) would admit it rather than digging a deeper hole. I think most would get over it rather quickly if he were just honest about it.

  47. There is zero chance that Peyton will sue.

    There are federal laws that might have been broken here and he will NOT go down that road especially with his wife involved in the cheating scheme.

    *

  48. Probably. The way he’s flip flopping around, you know he took HGH. He’s always been greedy and self-centered. He’s playing, very poorly I might add, only for records and money. And now that he’s been named as having taken a substance banned by the NFL he’s worried about besmirching his records. Too late, Swamp Boy.

  49. c says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:12 AM

    Ironic or coincidental, Peyton’s newest dilemma is showing the argument to make in regards to deflategate.

    If the patriots/Brady were innocent in regards to the alleged deflategate scheme, they would have shouted and proclaimed innocence from the start. As opposed to taking this, “prove it…” mentality.

    If the Patriots/Brady were 100% innocent in regards to deflategate, they would have proved their innocence as opposed to letting the story/issue spin more and more out of control as they took the back seat with their mouth sewed shut.
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    The Patriots did claim they were innocent, but how is it possible for someone to prove that they didn’t do something that never happened?

    Besides, by the time the AFCCG was over, the Patriots had already been hornswoggled by the NFL with the aid of Bob Kravitz and Chris Mortensen’s totally bogus tweets. Heck, there’s people that to this day, still believe those tweets.

  50. he is not tarnished forever.

    was belief is he was faced with a two to three year period for full recovery unless he took HGH, which is what anyone not in professional sports would be prescribed.

    he knew two years to fully heal would not get him to the records he wanted to break, so he opted for the healer accelerant that HGH provides.

    in his case the HGH was to heal not truly a PED.

    JMO

  51. “If the Patriots/Brady were 100% innocent in regards to deflategate, they would have proved their innocence”

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    First of all when someone is accuse of something they don’t have to prove their innocence, the accuser has to prove their guilt, and so far after a $5M investigation the NFL hasn’t proved Brady did anything wrong. As for Peyton, all he has to do is deny it and the NFL would have to prove he did it and without HGH testing that will be impossible. Unless more incriminating evidence comes to light, Manning doesn’t have anything to worry about.

  52. e wanted to break, so he opted for the healer accelerant that HGH provides.


    It’s still cheating.

    Using this illegal substance may not be an illegal performance advantage over another player on the football field but it certainly is an illegal advantage over another injured player who is healing the legal way.

  53. Let me get this straight:

    1. He admits HGH is sent to his house for his wife.
    2. He claims this Sly guy “made it up”.

    Keep digging yourself a deeper hole Gomer.

  54. Sorry pats fans, there’s no comparison to your disgusting franchise. Maybe if Manning played for an organization that perennially cheats like NE it would be on par. The Patriots cheating is on a whole other level than anything professional sports has ever seen.

  55. Even if he did, I’m not even mad. After you read all the stories about how it takes him 45 minutes to take off all his pads after a game?

    If he did take it, it probably helped him compete every week in the nfl in his current state, less having some kind of advantage over everyone else.

    Plus, his arm strength the past couple years? HGH sure had a big impact on that ball velocity wow-wee

  56. factman66 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 12:57 PM
    Sorry pats fans, there’s no comparison to your disgusting franchise. Maybe if Manning played for an organization that perennially cheats like NE it would be on par. The Patriots cheating is on a whole other level than anything professional sports has ever seen.
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    Grow up.

    My handle will tell you who I’m a fan of, and I at least have the maturity to appreciate what Brady and Belichick have accomplished. They’re the best ever at what they do. Deal with it.

  57. Bullcrap. If he ignored it, all the parasites in the media would say “If somebody falsely accused me of doing something, I’d be shouting from the rooftops that I’m innocent, I’d defend myself.”

  58. tajuara: His wife gave birth to twins in March 2011. Doubt she’d be trying to get pregnant with two newborns! And why go to an Aging clinic to get HGH?

  59. Grow up?
    They cheated their entire careers and their owner used his pull with the commissioner to cover it up. Those are the facts. I don’t appreciate a single thing those serial cheaters have done, and I’m not afraid to call out the frauds.

  60. bradygirl12 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 1:13 PM
    Why do people think that Peyton Manning is not capable of doing this? They certainly think that Brady is capable of cheating
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    Any other player gets caught and it’s “well everybody is using this stuff”

    Peyton seems to be the 1 exception to that lol But he’s had excuses made for him his whole career so it’s no surprise so many believe his wife was actually the one using it.

  61. Why do people think that Peyton Manning is not capable of doing this? They certainly think that Brady is capable of cheating.
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    Because the Patriots owner promotes a culture of cheating and they have been busted multiple times.
    Manning has a spotless resume.

  62. Are we really now to the point where we have to respond in a specific way to slander and lies in order to be perceived as being believed. Manning was upset and pissed and responded that way and should be allowed to respond that way

  63. Someone should have reminded him what happened to Ryan Braun when he got in front of a microphone. You better be 100% innocent, because if he’s guilty and decided that going on the offense like this is the best defense, there’s no going back if you end up having something linked to you.

  64. factman66 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 12:57 PM

    Sorry pats fans, there’s no comparison to your disgusting franchise. Maybe if Manning played for an organization that perennially cheats like NE it would be on par. The Patriots cheating is on a whole other level than anything professional sports has ever seen.
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    Lawl. He played for the Colts and he plays for the Broncos.

    There’s no maybe or if about it.

  65. Manning is a low dirty cheat. He deserves to be burned for this. Thinking hes such a good quarterback all these years and all it proves is that hes nothing but a damn doper. Ban him, take his pathetic records and void them, and take his ONE ring and throw it out. Hes a cheater to the core and nothing can change that.

  66. Hiring a Professional liar worked for Mike Mccarthy , Tom Brady and many other . So go for it Manning.

  67. themiamidolphins says:
    Dec 28, 2015 1:08 PM

    No one thinks you’re really a Miami fan bro, all your comments are pro patriot. I think you’re the one who needs to grow up instead of trying to create the illusion that the patriots aren’t despised by the league and every other fan base.

    The day of reckoning is coming for the cheats and their ignorant sheep fans. Karma baby.

  68. factman66 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 1:21 PM
    Why do people think that Peyton Manning is not capable of doing this? They certainly think that Brady is capable of cheating.
    *******************
    Because the Patriots owner promotes a culture of cheating and they have been busted multiple times.
    Manning has a spotless resume.


    Not so spotless. Google manning university of Tennessee scandal.

  69. I don’t buy Manning using HGH.

    Look at other (proven) users of such performance enhancers – they physically change as a result of using such stuff. Barry Bonds the doper vs. Barry au natural were not the same people physiologically – in appearance or ability.

    If Peyton Manning actually used such stuff for an extended period of time, he would not look like the older version of exact same horse-faced gangly dude with no muscle tone that he does; Manning would be physically different.

  70. bobcrs says:
    Dec 28, 2015 1:25 PM

    Are we really now to the point where we have to respond in a specific way to slander and lies in order to be perceived as being believed.
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    Yep.

  71. I don’t get the media. People just can’t win, can they? “No comment” is all but an admission of guilt, and the media would have been all over this if that was his answer. Now you’re saying that it’s a story because Manning strongly denied it? C’mon guys, make up your minds.

  72. “So, as a Patriots fan, I want the same scrutiny by the NFL, the reporters, bloggers, analysts, talking heads, and fans as Brady got.”

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    This is, exactly, the point. Any other player would be investigated, and punishment doled out if need be. Why should he be the exception to league rules.

  73. cinzano08 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 11:12 AM
    No comment is the way to go. Hiring people to deny for you sounds like spin control. Truly innocent people don’t have to respond as the reporters will dig for the truth and get it. No I’m not talking about ESPN but reputable journalists with no allegiances will get to the bottom of this

    Show me one, just one, celebrity or famous athlete that doesn’t have a lawyer, publicist, and financial advisor. The ONLY ones that don’t are broke 2 years after their last film/game check. If you honestly think that a top athlete can compete while tending to finances, contracts, and public persona then you have zero clue how managing a multi-million dollar enterprise works. As Bill Gates once said, “It’s not worth my time to stop and pick up a $100 bill on the sidewalk. It is worth it to pay someone to walk with me and pick up one if I see it”. Theirs is a totally different world folks, one which none of us are equipped to understand.

  74. luckyarmpit says:
    Dec 28, 2015 1:54 PM

    I don’t get the media. People just can’t win, can they? “No comment” is all but an admission of guilt, and the media would have been all over this if that was his answer. Now you’re saying that it’s a story because Manning strongly denied it? C’mon guys, make up your minds.
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    He denied it too strongly, and then he hired a spin team.

  75. Where is the 4 game suspension from Goodell?

    Rodney Harrison used HGH to rehab from a bounty issued by Jeff Fisher (still never penalized for that) back in 2006, because HGH was shipped to his house from Florida.

    Difference is, Rodney didn’t lie what he wanted it for.

    Where is Sheriff Rogie and his “integrity of the game” proclamation?

    Why the 2 orders, Roger? If Santiago wasn’t to be touched, and your orders are always followed, why was it necessary to transfer him off the base?

    LMAO

    Resign now, Goodell.

  76. Sly was clearly in Indy in 2011- of course they’re going the firm’s going keep him off the employment records- and he knew about the packages sent to Mannings wife, which have not been denied. DEA directs a Federal court supoena to him and the head of that anti-ageing clinic in Indy. See where that leads. The fact that there were actual drugs obtabtained and a former MLB player speaking (Teagarden) means this was not just made up. Sly was relaxed and chatty over several days. They all said they would clam up if caught, they were, and they did, possibly including Peyton.

  77. If Peyton is innocent, he should sue. If he doesn’t, there’s something he doesn’t want to come up.

  78. Brady gets crucified for something that was overturned by a judge. I won’t be surprised if Goodell tries to sweep this story under the rug. Peyton Manning cheat? OMG,say it isn’t so! When you think about the injury and the timing,sounds a little sketchy to me.

  79. @boogerhut, tb12 gets crucified for not being vocal enough yet you feel it’s ok for Peyton to hire a high profile celebrity to declare his innocence. It’s you who don’t understand human nature. If you are innocent there is no need to try and convince anyone and if you’re guilty a full scale assault on the public is warranted like clemons, Armstrong and rose all tried.

  80. Here’s the deal. Manning did not deny shipments were received at his house. He says his wife needs them. There are legit medical reasons for having HGH. She may have one. But this same company was dealing with players -players who had not been caught – such as Ryan Howard, Julius Peppers and Ryan Zimmerman. Uhummm….this company is manufacturing HGH so it can’t be detected by the testing methods used!

    Why did Mrs Manning need HGH that could not be detected by sports testing? IMO she’d be getting HGH as prescribed by her Doctor.

  81. So Manning apologists say pay no attention to this story the reporter retracted the story and it is supposedly false….

    yet at the same time you are the same people who believed Mortensen’s proven false account of football deflation and can’t wrap your tiny little heads around 6th grade science?

    One word…..hypocrites!

  82. bradygirl12 says:
    Dec 28, 2015 3:26 PM

    Brady gets crucified for something that was overturned by a judge. I won’t be surprised if Goodell tries to sweep this story under the rug. Peyton Manning cheat? OMG,say it isn’t so! When you think about the injury and the timing,sounds a little sketchy to me.
    ——-
    First of all, if Peyton thought it would help him recover from a depilating condition, he wouldn’t need to go underground, he could legally go to his doctor for HGH treatment. Secondly, brady’s case was decided on procedural issue’s, not whether he was guilty or not. At it has yet to be finalized.

    That said, it doesn’t matter to me if Peyton is guilty or not, it would not be the same as brady. One guys is trying to recover from a debilitating condition, and the other knew about cheating to gain an unfair advantage (allegedly).

  83. MLB takes drug investigations seriously. If Ryan Zimmermann is implicated and the NFL players aren’t it will not go down well for the NFL.

  84. The point that is going to control this story for history is whether or not his wife received HGH from this clinic. Manning ‘s denial sounded as if he was leaving the door wide open for his wife to take the blame. If this clinic is proven to have administered HGH to multiple athletes and if it ever end up being true that his wife also did, Peyton will only win on one point in the future. He will lose the court of public opinion forever ala Roger and Debbie Clemens. He will never win a lawsuit because the implication of his possibly using the HGH, based on the information available will exonerate AlJazeera in court. Where he will win is with the football writers. He will still be elected to the Hall of Fame, first ballot, unless a video of Manning were to appear discussing this and taking a needle. His legacy will not be shredded by the press as they did with Brady. Remember, it was the NFL’s own lawyers that stated to Judge Berman in open court, that they had zero evidence of Brady committing any misconduct involving the AFC Championship game. The press has largely ignored that point but Manning will not be treated unfairly by the majority of the sports media, as he is and always will be their darling. Whether his wife received HGH or not will decide the direction of this story.

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