Peyton Manning welcomes HGH investigation

AP

The NFL has said it will investigate the allegation from Al Jazeera that Peyton Manning used HGH Ashley Manning received HGH and Peyton Manning had not a thing to do with it at all, period, now please don’t sue us. Peyton Manning says, “Bring it on.”

“That’s certainly, probably, appropriate,” Manning told reporters on Wednesday regarding the league’s plan to review the situation. “I’d be glad if they would come in here tonight — tomorrow to do it and get it over with. I don’t have a whole lot to add to what I said on Sunday. The report wasn’t true Sunday, it’s not true today and it’ll never be true. I’m still angry about it, but if the league has to do that, I’ll cooperate. The sooner the better, though, if they’re listening.”

If/when the league shows up to talk to Manning, he’ll surely repeat everything he said to ESPN’s Chris Mortenson and NBC’s Peter King and ESPN’s Lisa Salters. But the league has no way to confirm or debunk Manning’s version of the event.

The real question is whether Manning will sign the appropriate paperwork to allow the NFL to obtain information from the Guyer Institute, and whether Ashley Manning will choose to cooperate in any way with the investigation. Neither the Guyer Institute nor Ashley Manning fall within the jurisdiction of the league, giving it no power to force anyone but teams, players, and league employees to cooperate.

Absent the ability to obtain information about the allegations directly from the Guyer Institute, the NFL will have no choice but to take Manning at his word. If the NFL had been in that same position with Tom Brady, he never would have been suspended.

78 responses to “Peyton Manning welcomes HGH investigation

  1. And that will be a huge joke. It wasn’t even a banned substance………. So yeah, now let’s pretend to care. I’m not arguing for HGH in sports. I’m simply laughing at the NFL pretending to give a damn.

  2. Interesting that Peyton fell off a cliff at the same time the NFL started testing for HGH last year! Also interesting that his wife started receiving HGH deliveries at same time he was rehabbing. Fess up Peyton. The truth shall set you free!

  3. Can we please stop giving headlines to these AlJazeera losers? Furthest from a Peyton defender (Redskins fan) but can we make sure sources are legitimate before plastering stories everywhere?

  4. Questions:
    Did your wife undergo HGH treatment?
    Did she have a legitimate medical reason to do so?
    Was HGH shipped directly to your residence?
    Do you really expect us to believe that the HGH was for your wife?
    Do you think it is odd that you couldn’t even throw a dart, yet after you underwent these nonconventional treatments you were able to have one of your best seasons ever?
    Are you a cheater?
    Did your wife cover up your cheating?
    Can we have acess to your cell phone records?

  5. If, and I do mean if it is ever proven that Manning ‘ s wife was receiving HGH from a clinic that is eventually proven to have supplied HGH to multiple pro athletes, Peyton Manning will never win. He will lose in the court of public opinion forever. He will never win anything in a lawsuit because the implication that it was obtained for his use is a logical, even if unfair, leap. The sports media will cut him slack, as he is and always will be their darling. If the scenario where his wife was receiving the HGH is found to be true, Manning will never shake with the public the Roger/Debbie Clemens, Lance Armstrong and Ryan Braun associations. My question would then be about why, when knowing what the possible implications could be for the destruction of his career and legacy, did his wife so desperately need this particular drug in order to be treated? A private matter, yes. But a fair question on how devastating a condition his wife must have or have had that this monumental risk would be taken. Devastating condition, which should garner sympathy or a Clemens repeat scenario are the two options if she received the drug.

  6. Oh,really? By not cooperating by freeing up details of his wife’s private medical records, the NFL should clearly draw an adverse inference and conclude that not only did Manning take HGH, but he was aware of, generally, that he was also the organizer, distributer and implementer of a scheme to defraud the integrity of the NFL by having the players take HGH without knowledge or consent from the NFL and without allowing them to profit more on it which disrupted parity and avsolutely broke integrity for all time. America. Mission accomplished.

  7. Not even a week in and there’s already more evidence that Peyton used hgh than there ever was Brady was involved in deflating footballs.

  8. He and his wife will be turning over their cell phones then. Since I’m sure he paid for the “Treatment” for his “wife” he should have no problem handing over all records and we can move on to the punishment stage. We will see how much he is willing to help then.

  9. Isn’t taking HGH without a prescription illegal period? A sports injury isn’t an appropriate use for it as far as I am aware. The institute should be looked at by the police.

  10. Well, I imagine this means turning over his cell phone, emails, and any other private information the NFL deems it needs to draw its conclusion however it wishes.

    No one is above the integrity of the game, right Roger?

  11. Mike, what ever happened to the NFL’s “conduct detrimental” clause? Why won’t Goodell rely on the critical importance of protecting the integrity of the game and a thorough and independent investigation and report? In conjunction with their own investigation Goodell can agree to cooperate with any and all state and federal investigations.

    No open-minded individual will view the Aljazeera documentary and not believe that it was credible, that the professionals trafficking in PEDs were being frank, that the endocrinologist who stated HGH had three indications and can not be prescribed off-label was also credible. None of those three indications appear to apply to Ashley Manning. Professional athletes (including Lance Armstrong and Roger Clemons) use their wives to cover their drug use. Manning’s defense is not credible on its face. If Goodell has the powers he says he has he could act quickly. He won’t, because deflategate was not about the integrity of the game it was about parity and throwing a bone to jealous owners.

  12. Peyton Manning is one of the greatest ever. If it were my team in the playoffs, I’d play Peyton over Brock. The might be a little lightning still trapped in the bottle.

    -Packers Fan

  13. Questions that must be answered:

    1. Did his wife receive HGH?
    2. If so, when?
    3. Where?
    4. Why?
    5. Were the Colts and the NFL aware that Guyer illegally received HGH from China in 2007?
    6. Was anybody in the NFL or Colts organization notified that Guyer had a close affiliation to a Ponzi scheme and his partner was sentenced to 40 months in jail?
    7. Was Sly employed in 2011?
    8. If he was employed in 2011, why did Manning and Guyer lie about this and say he didn’t start until 2013?

    There’s more, but I’m not sure the NFL will even take this interview seriously.

    NFL: Peyton, did you do any of this?

    Peyton: No.

    NFL: “After an exhaustive and thorough review, we have found no evidence of any wrongdoing committed by Peyton Manning.”

  14. Well, if Ashley Manning refuses to cooperate with the investigation and explain exactly why HGH, which is used to recover from injuries like the one her husband had, was being sent to their home at exactly the time her husband could use it when his career was at stake, a perfectly acceptable conclusion is that her truthful response would be contrary to her husband’s position.

    Even if the NFL could not legally base a penalty on it, the football loving public could appropriately conclude that the person who could confirm Peyton Manning’s truthfulness chose not to do so.

  15. Sane people thought the NFL would never blow $5 million trying to frame the greatest QB in NFL history on the eve of a Super Bowl, let alone keep up the charade after said QB won the SB in epic fashion for his third SB MVP and their lies were shredded by everyone from Nobel Prize winners to 9th grade chemistry teachers. Good luck, Peyton.

  16. I would like to see a federal investigation about the Guyer Institute. The allegations of distributing HGH for non approved uses are serious. The evidence from the reporting is enough to justify a criminal investigation. Let’s see statements from Sly, Guyer personnel, and some athletes. A federal investigation can obtain records and testimony to get closer to the truth.

  17. If Ashley Manning obtained HGH through Guyer for any reason not approved by the FDA she and Guyer broke the law and only the FDE can enforce that law.
    How many people in this country buy HGH under false and illegal presences? Thousands for sure. Does the FDA prosecute them?
    Hardly ever.
    HGH is NOT approved as an anti-aging pharmaceutical but many quacks like Guyer prescribe and sell them as such.
    In this case she has no reason to cooperate with the NFL because she likely broke the law. She gave birth to twins on March 31, 2011.
    Why does she need HGH? Post pregnancy issues? Not approved by the FDA. Why would a woman giving birth to twins go to an anti-aging clinic for medical advice for postpartum issues?

    The only way the truth comes out is if the AG in Indiana asks the Feds to check into Guyer and the FDE ( the enforcement arm of the FDA) gets on the case and asks the question of why Guyer was shipping HGH to Ashley Manning in Florida. Or a Fed looking to make his/her bones on a high profile case jacks up the questions they won’t answer.
    This is how they get around HIPAA.

    For me I don’t believe PM did it/ the stem cell stuff in Europe saved him/. He’s trying to save his wife from some bad stuff…

    Ask yourself once more what a woman just given birth to twins goes to a quackery clinic for real medical help? Smoke->Fire

  18. I’d want manning starting too if I were a packers fan. Rogers consistently delivers in big games while manning soils his diaper time after time even when healthy.

    And now we get the Roger Clemmons “it’s for my wife defense”? Slimey.

  19. Who cares? Players on all of our teams use it. So pointless to put on a dog and pony show. WHOAAA look at Peyton!! I’m appalled!! Mock outrage!! Rawlll!!

    It’s ridiculous. Did he take it, yea most likely. Can they prove it? HELL NO. So why turn it into a 3 ring circus. HGH helps athletes recover faster. The benefits far outweigh the risks so long as it’s not compounded with other forms of PEDs, like Anabolic steroids. I’m not sure why it’s so frowned on. We should be embracing these types of scientific breakthroughs in sports medicine.

  20. I think it is wrong for Ashley Manning to have to explain why she received any kind of medication. It violates her medical privacy, and some of the details could be personally embarrassing. I do know she had the twins in 2011 and I have heard HGH is used in fertility treatment. This is a couple in their mid-thirties at the time of the twins’ birth, and they were very private about the birth. This is what makes all this such a delicate issue, and, I believe, what makes Peyton so angry.

  21. Is this what we can expect from the NFL, an annual post-season scandal to occupy the media? Pete Rozell was a public relations practitioner by trade and Paul Tagliabue an attorney, and scandals did not dominate their tenure like they have with Goodells. At this point, I’m not sure what Roger excels at but based on his track record I know that PR and law are not his strong suits.

  22. Osweiler: Peyton ,can you teach me how to be a good QB?

    Peyton: that is easy. cheat, lie, and doping. but most of all, have a wife do all the dirty work for you.

  23. Not sure how anyone doesn’t get this, but, wasn’t HGH touted for being a fertility drug “of choice” by some magazine?

    How old are Peyton and Ashley Manning’s twins?

    No story here folks. Move along…

  24. Good for Manning. I think this is simply a witch hunt.
    I mean, look at Peyton Manning. When you take PED’s, your body changes. Barry Bonds went from being a thin guy to a guy who looked like a linebacker. So did Sammy Sosa, Lenny Dykstra, Mark McGuire, and all the others.
    If Manning is anything, he’s intelligent. He understands his place in NFL history and he would never do anything to jeopardize that.
    I am not a Broncos fan, and not really a Manning fan. But I respect him and hope he and the others who were accused blow this false report right out of the water.

  25. But as we all learned oh so well the NFL only has to prove a tangental relationship between Ashley’s HGH and Peyton and then it becomes “more likely than not” that it was for Peyton, or in the very least it was so so very inappropriate for a banned and illegal substance to be shipped to his place of residence.

    Peyton*

  26. Serenity now! Are there any sane people that watch professional football and have access to the internet, that understand the Constitution and how privacy works in this country? Ashley Manning owes the public, the NFL and any questions anyone has S Q U A T. What about that is confusing? Whatever inferences you personally draw from her or Peyton Manning’s cooperation or lack thereof is all on you.

  27. speicher145 says:
    Dec 30, 2015 11:47 PM
    Peyton Manning is one of the greatest ever. If it were my team in the playoffs, I’d play Peyton over Brock. The might be a little lightning still trapped in the bottle.

    -Packers Fan
    ————————————
    The little bit of lightning was evident against GB….
    Peyton hasn’t been himself all year. Even Preseason.
    Brock presents the best option to win.
    Broncos Fan

  28. Will they ask for his cell phone and email records? What about the electronic communication from the Colts employees he said accompanied him to this shady clinic? What about the electronic communications with his wife, who like it or not is a critical part of this scandal? What happens when they refuse to turn this information over? Never mind. That investigatory and disciplinary standard only applies to one team…

  29. google the Guyer institute, look for image of the joint. To me it looks seedy, no signout front, just a house on the side of the road….not a place a multi millionaire would send his wife if you ask me.

    the guyer institute is hardly an institute

  30. Sooo – the NFL takes Peyton at his word that the HGH was used by his then pregnant wife (to increase the forehead size of his unborn child?)

    But the NFL refuses to take Tom Brady at his word that the Laws of Physics do in fact apply to the game of football and that the cold affects PSI?

    Yeah – that sounds about right.

  31. Obviously this reporter loves him some Brady and hates him some Manning. When you look at how both responded, Peyton was angrier than I have ever seen him. Brady responded like a wise ass. I believe angry is the appropriate response if you have been lied about. PS Has anyone checked to see if Gazelle has a scrip for Adderall? She has to be on something heavy the way she dresses Tom. (I’m only saying this to show how silly the whole thing is.

  32. Mike, what ever happened to the NFL’s “conduct detrimental” clause? Why won’t Goodell rely on the critical importance of protecting the integrity of the game and a thorough and independent investigation and report? In conjunction with their own investigation Goodell can agree to cooperate with any and all state and federal investigations.

    No open-minded individual will view the Aljazeera documentary and not believe that it was credible, that the professionals trafficking in PEDs were being frank, that the endocrinologist who stated HGH had three indications and can not be prescribed off-label was also credible. None of those three indications appear to apply to Ashley Manning. Professional athletes (including Lance Armstrong and Roger Clemons) use their wives to cover their drug use. Manning’s defense is not credible on its face. If Goodell has the powers he says he has he could act quickly. He won’t, because deflategate was not about the integrity of the game it was about parity and throwing a bone to jealous owners.

  33. Mike, what penalties do you see being imposed on the Packers (Neal, Mathews, Peppers), Broncos (Manning), Colts (Manning), Steelers (Harrison), and Jets (Keller) based on the Aljezeera story?

  34. Well, if Ashley Manning refuses to cooperate with the investigation and explain exactly why HGH, which is used to recover from injuries like the one her husband had, was being sent to their home at exactly the time her husband could use it when his career was at stake, a perfectly acceptable conclusion is that her truthful response would be contrary to her husband’s position.

    Even if the NFL could not legally base a penalty on it, the football loving public could appropriately conclude that the person who could confirm Peyton Manning’s truthfulness chose not to do so.

    ———————————————————————————-

    … Similar to the way the football loving public could appropriately conclude that the person who could provide their cell phone to confirm their truthfulness chose not to do so

  35. Manning has admitted publicly that HGH was prescribed by doctors at the Guyer Institute and sent to his wife. Experts have noted that HGH has three indications and can not be prescribed off-label without a doctor putting his medical license at risk. None of those three indications appear to apply to Ashley Manning (absent a non-disclosed pituitary issue). Manning also has stated that Colts officials and doctors were aware of his treatments at the Guyer, indicating that not only Manning but the Colts were active participants in him receiving HGH. Given Irsay’s suspension for drug activity this second offense would appear to warrant harsh action by Goodell and the NFL office in New York. Instead, we are hearing crickets from Goodell.

  36. Smells like a $1 million fine and loss of 1st and 4th round draft picks. Going to be interesting to see if upholding the integrity of the game really applies to everyone.

  37. rwhite151 says:
    Dec 31, 2015 10:39 AM
    Smells like a $1 million fine and loss of 1st and 4th round draft picks.
    —————————————————————–
    For the Colts you mean? Pey-Pey wasn’t a Bronco in 2011.

  38. Forgive me, but, as a Pats fan who has been through the wringer with the whole deflategate sting debacle–I have no faith in the NFL. Here’s how I feel it will go down: ‘Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Patriots?’, ‘No?’, ‘We’re done here. It’s not like you were probably generally aware that .2 psi of air was taken out of a football maybe’

    I know I should let it go; but, the double and triple standard of the way this is being handled and the way deflategate was handled is beyond ridiculous. Where’s the 24/7 outrage, media coverage, former players making stupid, unproveable accusations….where are the false leaks of information that people who are not Peyton fans will believe forever? I actually like Manning and hope this goes away. I would like to remember him as one of the greatest without blemish…..I’m just saying, I wish Brady had been given the same treatment.

  39. STILLlolatpatshaters says:
    Dec 31, 2015 8:39 AM
    #cheater
    #NoRespectForTheDirtyFilthyDoper
    #SuspendHimNow
    ———————-
    This is what gives us, Pats fans, a bad name. I know the haters did it to Brady, that’s exactly why we shouldn’t do it to Manning.

  40. And yet we are so quick to jump on the bandwagon and persecute a player who has already proven he can accomplish miraculous feats and break records long before 2011, but yet is crucified when a documentary that needed a lot of views makes allegations against one of the best quarterbacks in the league (and I repeat one of the best quarterbacks BEFORE 2011) who somehow, even if he were using HGH still showed extreme declination in his physical strength and size and health when other athletes on this substance either at least maintained if not improved their abilities. And yet we believe allegations where the only “evidence” given is from Sly who was verified to be no more than an intern at the clinic and had absolutely no authority to send OR prescribe HGH. And maybe just consider the fact that his once arrogant behavior while being interviewed is now apologetic and withdrew his statements because he realized how big this has gotten and is now being investigated and he doesn’t want to be discovered as a liar. Did anyone ever stop and wonder if this guy just wanted attention?

  41. “Can we please stop giving headlines to these AlJazeera losers? Furthest from a Peyton defender (Redskins fan) but can we make sure sources are legitimate before plastering stories everywhere?”

    LOL

    Al Jazeera is one of the most credible, unbiased, and trusted news sources in the world.

    Where are you people getting this idea that this is some rinky dink news source?

  42. lost188 says: “Did anyone ever stop and wonder if this guy just wanted attention?”

    ———

    Uh, Sly was recorded without his knowledge, I’m not sure how this would translate into he wanted attention. When I read the first sentence of your post I thought you were going to mention Tom Brady, this is exactly what happened to him.

    The belief is that if Peyton used HGH it was to help recover from the neck surgeries, I haven’t heard anybody suggest that he was doing this before 2011. Agreed that we should not convict without more evidence but he had a serious injury and may have just wanted to heal quickly, Peyton is human.

  43. Man, PM could have just came clean and gone the Andy Petite route, even could have lied and spun it a bit like “I took it because I wanted to heal. My bad, but it wasn’t a banned substance at the time. In hindsight, poor judgement.” People already love the guy and he would have gotten a pass.

    For some reason he chose the Lance Armstrong/Roger Clemens/Alex Rodriguez route and he has dug himself into such a hole there isn’t any chance to come out, he has now lied and has to try to will/spin this away.

    I don’t think he can. I mean, if he wife got it it’s so damning, and that seems to be the case. Once the government gets involved he is going to have to come clean or let his wife take the rap for getting a script for HGH, which she obviously doesn’t have a need for.

    I’ve lost a ton of respect for the guy not because he took it, but his throwing people under the bus and just trying to play people for fools. Maybe when you are that close to a situation and you’re used to everyone kissing your ass and saying how wonderful you are you start to believe you’re untouchable. I think his goose is cooked and we’re going to get some lame ass apology after he is forced to come clean. His people should have told him to just fess up and move on. I don’t think people would care all that much.

    Now he is has built a path towards Clemens infamy. Geezo, what a fool he is to try to play the collective sporting world as dopes. He deserves what’s coming. The dude blew it, not only for him but the Manning legacy.

  44. Peyton Manning is taken the Roger Clemens route… emphatically deny, “Bring it on… and the sooner the better”, and throw you’re beautiful wife under the bus. Real classy guys!!

  45. He argues that they are bringing his wife into the scandal. Mr. Manning, YOU brought your wife into this! YOU had HGH shipped to her. It’s five days later and you have not denied that your wife received HGH in 2011 in multiple shipments in Florida. Just confirm that you’re wife did or did not receive these shipments. A simple “Yes” or “No” will suffice.

  46. Creed says:
    Jan 1, 2016 3:56 AM
    Man, PM could have just came clean and gone the Andy Petite route, even could have lied and spun it a bit like “I took it because I wanted to heal. My bad, but it wasn’t a banned substance at the time. In hindsight, poor judgement.” People already love the guy and he would have gotten a pass.
    =========================================

    +1
    If innocent, a pro-athlete has been subjected to these false allegations many times by age 39. And would probably not even flinch at another one.

    So why the over wrought hissy fit denial? Strikes me as a bit out of place and telling. The story would have died as stillborn, instead he gave it legs.

    And the public has already learned from Lance, McGuire, Bonds, A-rod, Clemens, Braun etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc that the more strenuous the denial, the bigger the lie and creepier the character of the false icon.

    He is rolling out a 1996 defense to a 2016 public. He is gonna go down.

  47. Of course he welcomes it. It wasn’t until 2013 until they really tested it, he sat out 2011,btw. these people (pats fans) seem not to acknowledge that. But the ones that do give themselves away by saying “but Rodney Harrison was caught”. Lol

    Peyton has been under every kind of testing prior and after each new contract with the Broncos, along with traditional NFL testing. So the NFL are gonna test him again, go back and look, and confirm what they already know…he’s clean.

  48. There won’t be a any physical evidence.

    Manning carefully chose his accomplices on this one.

    The institute probably used a method of shipment that can’t be tracked. The packages would be small-first class US postal Service would do the trick.

    He used his wife to receive his drugs. She can’t be compelled to testify against him in court. She also won’t incriminate herself.

    The only trail left would be financial documentation. This is where Manning was particularly smart in picking Dr. Guyer as his dealer. Dr. Guyer has a long history of dirty financial dealing involving drug shipments, Ponzi schemes, and avoiding the IRS. He is the perfect candidate who wouldn’t think twice about cooking the books to hide transgressions.

    The league is a bunch of bumbling morons who would have difficulty investigating the amount of soil on their own backsides. Cracking this drug ring would be an impossibility.

    The only thing he will need to deal with now is that he is beholding to Dr. Guyer. The payments will probably stretch well into the future to ensure silence.

    The only thing Manning didn’t anticipate was a rogue insider with knowledge of the situation getting duped into admitting what he knew on video. He never anticipated a respected news organization, without an axe to grind, stumbling on to this bombshell.

    He’ll walk but will forever have to dance to the tune of a cheater. The court of public opinion will always have their doubts no matter how many Ari Flieschers’s are hired to spin the information.

  49. Jasonculhane: The NFL never tested PSI on footballs during games before January of 2015 yet persecuted the Patriots and Brady for supposed deflation which wasn’t even proven.
    If it’s anywhere near possible the Manning was anywhere near HGH, he, the Colts, Broncos and anyone who could have possibly have been generally aware of the situation should be dragged through the mud and given the harshest penalties ever handed down in the history of the NFL (as was done to the Patriots and Brady).
    It hurts when the ball’s in your court doesn’t it. Need some Preparation H?

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