Pettine says there are problems with Manziel that must be addressed

AP

Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel still needs to fix his off-field issues if he’s going to succeed in the NFL, coach Mike Pettine says.

“Here is a guy that has an NFL skill set, he’s very talented, if you spend some time with him, he’s a likable guy, you root for him,” Pettine said of Manziel, via Cleveland.com. “But there are problems there that we’ll talk as we’re headed to the offseason about getting addressed. And I’ve said this before, we want to make sure that all of our players are in good shape as people first, players second. Because I don’t think you can be as effective as you can be as a player if things aren’t right off the field. And he’s a good example of that.”

A big problem Manziel has is a complete inability to stop appearing in viral videos. Pettine might have benched Manziel this week for his latest video appearance, but before Pettine could address the matter, Manziel said he had concussion symptoms, resulting in him being ruled out for Week 17.

Pettine is obviously right that Manziel’s off-field issues need to be addressed, but it remains to be seen whether Pettine is the coach to address them. The Browns could fire Pettine after Sunday’s season finale, and then Manziel would become the next coach’s problem.

86 responses to “Pettine says there are problems with Manziel that must be addressed

  1. The only problem the Browns have now, that need to be addressed immediately, are their lousy GM and HC.

  2. So with all that said, here’s my 3 step plan:

    1) Get fired
    2) Have a kegger with Johnny
    3) Never use him in daily

    – Mike Pettine

  3. Johnnie seems to be yet another Bipolar Millennial, who life is dictated by irrational behavior, booze, drugs, & social media.

    Pettine seems to be another crappy coach.

  4. Everytime an article like this appears there are always a small contingent of commenters that defend “Johnny Dreadfull”. It’s a little disconcerting to know that there are a number of people as screwed up (or more so) than that train wreck.

  5. Spoiled rich kid who has a job as an NFL QB. This will not end well. Browns need to trade him to anyone who is vain enough to think they have the ability to fix him.

    Regardless of where he ends up it will not end well. He will be out of the league within two years.

  6. Only a front office organization with serious issues would have drafted Manziel and all the other busts they have over the past couple years. Coach Pettine is a victim of that and will unfortunately probably be the fall guy. Too bad, it’s the GM Farmer that needs to go.

  7. How about ‘ Johnny is slow to mature, and there is a chance he never will in the small Windows of opportunity of the nfl’. Just come right out and say it. Johnny football will let you down, in spending and resources.

    I like Mike for saying that. Easy to read between the lines and it’s a fair warning to any ambitious coach coming to Cleveland. That was Mike’s ‘I told you so’ card.

  8. Bobby Layne, Sonny Jurgensen, Joe Namath, Ken Stabler and Brett Favre all liked to party. The primary difference between them and Manziel is they could play.

  9. If Manziel doesn’t get it by now you have to wonder if he will ever get it. Too bad because he could help a lot of teams with the right system.

  10. I don’t like Pettine (as a coach, I don’t know him as a person and I assume he is a stand up guy) and yes, despite being a Browns fan I consider the organization to be a dumpster fire. I didn’t even want JFF drafted – although he has started to make a believer out of me on the field while we have so many other issues to be addressed. But seriously? Lay off the guy. He is on viral videos. He is 23 years old, he drinks, he takes selfies, and because he is famous his artwork goes viral. It’s called being a young person. Since I am not part of that generation, I don’t fully understand the narcissism that comes with being so, but I do get that it actually is part of being so.

    If Pettine put as much effort into say, coaching a defense or leaving personalities out of it, Browns might be competitive. Sideshows don’t save jobs.

  11. People take viral videos of him because the press and coach have made it known they will turn it into a full blown circus. Instant fame.

    Honestly, the last video was very very tame but because Pettine is known to want bench Manziel if he doesn’t check in with him every 30 minutes they took the video.

    I believe Manziel was benched this week, but if they had said he was benched Pettine would’ve been torn to shreds.

    Pettine is the clown who has made any video of Manziel become national news.

    If they want to bench Manziel because of performance or run ins with the law, that’s fine but he’s getting benched for high school stuff by a high school coach.

  12. poor Johnny, how dare he want to have in life instead of living football 24/7 365 days a year. all these “problems” have happened during his off time when they have no affect on what he does on the field. just admit you never wanted the guy on your team and only played him because you had no choice. no matter what he does you never give him credit more than he did ok. when he gets busted 5 times and suspended for his off field issues then he has a problem until then lay off the guy and let him be who he is. if his off field issues become a problem on the field then you can do something about it but stop trying to make him someone he is not.

  13. pettine is wrong. manziel DOES NOT have an nfl skill set. he is too small and will take too much of a beating to stay in the lineup. the best ability is AVAIL ability.

    while manziel has mobility and can make plays, the broader view is that he will take too many hits, get hurt and be out of the lineup.

    the browns are at fault here. it was a terrible draft choice. any smart GM would have quickly passed on manziel due to his diminutive size.

  14. this is in the category of NWD anymore

    Not worth Discussing ,

    We all know he has worse issues off the field , We all know he isnt an nfl backup,nor will he ever be.

    Johnny , just go back to Texas and use dads money for the rest of your life because nothing else really matters to you ..you’ve proven that the last 3 years you’ve been in the public eye…..

    Please.

  15. The dysfunction of a head coach consistently throwing a player under then bus every chance he speaks to the media is very telling.

    One constant of the NFL is the Browns always needing to address something off the field.

  16. xjippyx says:
    Jan 2, 2016 6:59 AM

    Browns are a circus and I kind of feel bad for Manziel.
    ————————————————–
    Hell, he’s part of the problem.

  17. Article title should be:

    “Owner says there are problems with Pettine that must be addressed”

    The problem starts with the HC. Before Manziel goes Mike’s got to go first.

  18. Petine needs to stop trying to be a junior high coach and attempt to be a pro coach. However, in two days he may just be that….a junior high coach.

  19. The team needs to get that boy working in the community, serving the community to help teach him about life and show him there’s something more important than money, money, money and booze.

  20. “A big problem Manziel has is a complete inability to stop appearing in viral videos. ”
    **************************
    His appearing on video has never been the problem. It’s the action depicted in the videos that is the problem. If he didn’t commit the acts, the videos would mean nothing.

    It’s like saying, the problem was the pictures being taken at Abu Ghriab and not the torture or we can tolerate criminal cop shootings of unarmed people, but not people video taping them doing it.

    It’s about the conduct. The guy told us all he wouldn’t change, it’s not him, it us.

  21. Browns Defense – 1 turnover forced in last 4 weeks.
    Arizona Defense – 11 turnovers forced in last 3 weeks.

    Browns defense has given up more yards/game than the Eagles defense who give up 400 yards a game on average with “time of possesion doesn’t matter” Chip Kelly.

    You have a head coach whose background is in defense who after 2 years turned the browns defense into a bottom 5 defense.

    If you were this head coach would you rather the reporters ask about why your defense is so bad or why the young QB you don’t like is benched yet again?

  22. Manziel needs outside help again, he is what he is, and its a shame if he can’t get his life in order. He just seems unable to keep himself out of the limelight, when he’s not playing football. He has a problem, and unless he wants to “right the ship” nothing is going to change. Doesn’t matter what coaches say to him, he has to want to help himself get right. He has talent, it’s a pity.

  23. Until he gets a dui, he’s only hurting himself. Favre was a drunk. Taylor was a coke head.

    Quit babysitting the guy and let him sink or swim. Either he’ll get arrested or he won’t but until he does quit freaking out bc a grown man legally takes a drink. I mean heaven forbid a 22-23 year old millionaire likes to party. (Gronk does it but he’s just “lovable ol Gronk”)

    Worry about whether the dude can contribute on the field and let him live his personal life.

  24. Dear Pop Warner Pettine:
    You’ve completely mismanaged the Johnny Manziel situation from the beginning of the year. You’re stubbornness and bullheadedness has cost us a chance to win valuable games and has left our first round draft pick largely untested. We understand that he’s a young kid and has lots of money. He’s going to have fun and have a life outside of practice, video and games.
    For your inability to coach a struggling PROFESSINAL football franchise, I bid you farewell on your last day and a half as head coach of the Cleveland Browns. If you’re lucky you may be considered at the college level, if not, best of luck back in high school. Good Riddance!

  25. xjippyx says:

    Browns are a circus and I kind of feel bad for Manziel.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Johnny is the circus.

    Manziel suffers from “Affluenza”.

    Like another rich kid from TX (Ethan Couch) that just got deported from Mexico – where he fled (with his enabling mother) to avoid being jailed after a probation violation (drinking).

    What was he on probation for – drunk driving that killed 4 people and injured several others.

    Affluenza is a real problem that only affects the wealthy…

  26. Vikes passed on Johnny and I’m glad ,,people forget teddy was taken with extra first round pick ,,,vikes previously passed on qbs took Barr and someone else first I think they had 3 first rounders

  27. Manziel has problems? Who knew? Too bad there were no signs of trouble when the Brownies used their number one draft pick on him.

  28. Kenny “Snake” Stabler could party and win. Manziel keeps the Browns relevant. The last good coach they had was Belichek. The fans hated him, the team left town and was replaced by a pick-up team. Best thing to do is let Johnny drink on the sidelines during games. Ratings soar, place gets sold out and Clowns might even win a game.

  29. It’s baffling to me how the NFL, its coaches, the media and fans alike still brush over what the core problems are with some of their players. This kid is an alcoholic. Plain and simple. And most people consistently water that down by calling anything and everything but what it actually is. This dude has a disease. That means he’s sick. So if the NFL and HC really do give a poop about this guy, then perhaps they should learn a little more about his disease and what that means and how that affects the alcoholic, his family and the entire club and call him out for being a destructive drunk! Stop pretending that the issue here are the videos that keep popping up because the videos isn’t the actual problem. His drinking is.

  30. So basically Johnny benched himself before Pettine could do it and wait for the new guy to con….To be honest his viral vids wouldn’t be so bad if someone else was secretly filming them, but they’re selfies coming from his phone smh…..and Pettine love how he sneaks in the state of the team address before the last game you know just in case he doesn’t get to do it on Tuesday…..

  31. gtodriver says:
    Jan 2, 2016 8:49 AM

    Johnny is the circus.

    Manziel suffers from “Affluenza”.

    Like another rich kid from TX (Ethan Couch) that just got deported from Mexico – where he fled (with his enabling mother) to avoid being jailed after a probation violation (drinking).

    What was he on probation for – drunk driving that killed 4 people and injured several others.

    Affluenza is a real problem that only affects the wealthy…

    —————————

    Remind me when Manziel killed someone or got probation on a conviction because of the “affluenza” defense?

    Manziel is abrasive and may not be very warm and fuzzy to some people but to equate him to a kid who killed 4 people and escaped the consequences is just ridiculous.

    The fact he fled the country and had to be apprehended in mexico, yet still will not go to jail in the US is almost beyond belief. The mother will do more time than this kid.

    Manziel has been a model employee and done everything asked of him at the stadium this year. I don’t think you’ll find one player who said he wasn’t working his tail off.

    If Pettine is talking about Manziel he isn’t having to answer questions about his bottom 5 defense which amazingly enough, has nothing to do with Manziel and everything to do with Pettine’s ability to coach.

  32. Guys would almost kill to try and start as an NFL QB and he comes up with a fake head injury?

  33. Maybe the Browns should go after Jay Gruden – he seems to know what to do with petulant, over-hyped spread qb’s.

  34. Pettine should keep his mouth shut.
    They obviously want Manziel gone, fine.
    They aren’t helping themselves get much for him by bad mouthing him.
    Remain silent, and trade him.

    PS – Pettine can go back to being the DC under Rex Ryan, this time in Buffalo.

  35. Memo to NFL owners: Not every coach with a shaved head and goatee can be like Bruce Arians…Start looking more into what’s in a coach’s head and not so much what’s on it.

  36. The only tragedy in all of this is that some kid far more deserving is being kept off an NFL roster cause of Johnny. Yes it’s only the Browns but it’s still the NFL. He’s had his chances. Cut bait, move on and give his spot to someone who will value it.

  37. this guy just has no accountability for his own inabilities to coach an nfl team. terrible coach that should keep his mouth shut. he says the worst possible things. its not johnny manziels fault hes gonna get fired. johnny is just one player. and while johnny has issues to address according to him, pettine should address his own issues when it comes to destroying his own team. not even sure how he got fired. the browns should try to make a move for shanahan and give him personnel control. this roster has to be turned completely over for the browns to be competitive.

  38. I guess I’ve missed something. Has the kid showed up drinking at work? Has he missed meetings or the team flight?

    So he likes the drink? Kudos to the commenter comparing it to Gronk…one likes to party…so does the other. Gronk apparently just comes off a little more likable than Jonny.

    So if he isn’t doing anything illegal, and he isn’t drinking on the job or missing meetings? What exactly is the problem? Admittedly this new generation of kids likes to video themselves doing stupid things 24-7 and they are incredibly narcissistic, but….Until he does something at work or about his work that is in violation of his terms of employment…isn’t it his business and not ours (or the NFL’s)?

    If the Brown’s don’t like his play…their right is to fire him. It is his right to live his life the way he chooses.

  39. thetruthcampaign says:
    Jan 2, 2016 10:03 AM
    Affluenza doesn’t mean rich, privileged murderer. It’s about being rich and privileged and getting off because of it.

    ————————–

    Actually the “affluenza” defense has been used one time in one trial and honestly should’ve been thrown out of court at that time.

    Some people like you want to use this ridiculous term in a broader brush.

    What conviction (“getting off”) has he escaped because he’s rich and privileged?

    He’s shown up for work every day on time and hit the playbook hard according to all reports at the Browns.

  40. egomaniac247 says:
    Jan 2, 2016 8:43 AM
    Until he gets a dui, he’s only hurting himself. Favre was a drunk. Taylor was a coke head.

    Quit babysitting the guy and let him sink or swim. Either he’ll get arrested or he won’t but until he does quit freaking out bc a grown man legally takes a drink. I mean heaven forbid a 22-23 year old millionaire likes to party. (Gronk does it but he’s just “lovable ol Gronk”)

    =================================

    rob gronkowski doesnt drink alcohol during the nfl season. hes said that on numerous occasions. when its time for work gronk is all in all the time. hes the perfect patriot player. football first, then fun after you win alot.

  41. What I don’t get is, the talented black players throughout the league are partying too, yes some are getting arrested but, the team does not own you on your own time.
    Johhny partying should have nothing to do with football unless he fails to show up and perform.

  42. henoshows says:
    Jan 2, 2016 10:08 AM
    Guys would almost kill to try and start as an NFL QB and he comes up with a fake head injury

    *************************
    Suggest you go to the movies and see the movie “concussion”. Another viewpoint that will cause you to look at the NFL in a different manner. Goodell must go for thousands of reasons.

  43. Please keep J. Foosball and all his NFL talent as starting QB for the Clowns next year.

    Sincerely
    Cincinnati, Baltimore, & Pittsburgh

  44. I don’t know why viral videos are such a problem. Everyone in America has a recording phone. Is Manziel supposed to become a hermit? It’s silly, fans know these guys aren’t pure as the driven snow.

  45. Manziel has been a model employee and done everything asked of him at the stadium this year. I don’t think you’ll find one player who said he wasn’t working his tail off.
    =====================================
    @eagleswin, ah, so he didn’t have such a raging party that he and Josh Gordon missed team practice because they were hung over? Oh, and he isn’t going out to bars when he should be studying the playbook? He didn’t hit his gf and threaten to throw her out of the car? He didn’t violate the Brown trust, lie about partying and didn’t get his friends to lie to the Browns’ face? So he didn’t have to go to rehab and then promise to abstain from drinking? Gee, what a “model employee”.

  46. Manziel is an adult. If he wants to screw up his NFL career then that’s his problem. It’s not like he’s harming anyone anyway. This phony “outrage” over his desire to have a good time is absurd.

  47. Manziel is a spoiled rich kid. A lot people his age drink a lot (like myself). A lot of us arent quarterbacks in the NFL though.

  48. Maybe the Browns should have addressed those problems with Manziel BEFORE they wasted a draft pick on that head case. I thank God every day that my Vikings took Teddy Bridgewater before Manziel was drafted. Teddy will be around in ten years and winning Super Bowls with the up-and-coming Vikings, while Manziel will either be out of the league (or losing games for Jerruh in Dallas) relatively soon.

  49. Manziel is a stone alcoholic with character issues although he is talented. He is never going to work out in Cleveland so they need to get rid of him no matter who the coach is. They should go back to the drawing board and draft someone else who is talented but is not a flake like Johnny Football.

  50. How much money does the NFL make from the breweries. If they don’t want the players to drink maybe they should stop taking money from the beer companies.
    Wow … a coach who throws a player under the bus weekly seriously what player would play for that coach.

  51. … he says on his way out.

    If a team drafts a QB in the first round a coach has to put him on the field, not in rehab.

  52. kcchefs58 says:
    Jan 2, 2016 12:41 PM
    Manziel is an adult. If he wants to screw up his NFL career then that’s his problem. It’s not like he’s harming anyone anyway. This phony “outrage” over his desire to have a good time is absurd.
    ====================================

    You couldn’t be more wrong. He’s hurting his TEAM by his actions if he’s not ready to play and/ or is suspended. He’s hurting employees of the team whose careers and livelihoods depend on the win/lose record and Johnny’s actions have contributed to that. He’s hurting the bottom line of the Browns as sponsors leave. Stop justifying his actions. Yes, he’s and adult and go out and party all he wants. The Browns and the NFL can refuse to employ a party animal.

    People give Ken Stabler and Brett Favre as examples of partiers. Well, the flip side are the countless others who couldn’t perform due to their partying including Ryan Leaf and Johnny’s very own teammate Josh Gordon.

  53. liquidchaoss says:
    Jan 2, 2016 3:19 PM
    Its weird how guys like AP, Hardy get slack on what they did yet Manziel gets put under a microscope for every little thing he does.

    _________________________________________

    Johnny hasn’t played well. If he had, he could get away with more.

  54. granadafan says:
    Jan 2, 2016 3:00 PM

    You couldn’t be more wrong. He’s hurting his TEAM by his actions if he’s not ready to play and/ or is suspended. He’s hurting employees of the team whose careers and livelihoods depend on the win/lose record and Johnny’s actions have contributed to that. He’s hurting the bottom line of the Browns as sponsors leave. Stop justifying his actions. Yes, he’s and adult and go out and party all he wants. The Browns and the NFL can refuse to employ a party animal.

    People give Ken Stabler and Brett Favre as examples of partiers. Well, the flip side are the countless others who couldn’t perform due to their partying including Ryan Leaf and Johnny’s very own teammate Josh Gordon.

    ———————————-

    Keeping in mind the NFL didn’t suspend him and the police didn’t arrest him so his not playing is only decided by Pettine. It also sounds like you do believe he is the most talented QB on that team.

    There are also countless other players who were highly hyped, didn’t party and were busts.

    Sam Bradford and RGIII come to mind. Unfortunately for the Browns, if Manziel is let go, one of them will likely be the QB of the Browns next year.

    I do agree that the NFL and the Browns can refuse to employ him. However, he has broken no NFL rules so he will not be suspended or banned. It would be very simple to just cut him and if he is not a fit for the Browns that is what they should do. If the other 31 teams decide not to employ him, that’s on Johnny.

  55. Manziel apologists like to forget about the time the team had to send security to his place to wake him from a drunken stupid because he was missing a team meeting. That kind of explodes the narrative that “he’s just a kid who should be allowed to party all he wants”.

  56. ok…..a few things here….1) i know Mike Pettine is being honest, but i’ll be honest here too. i doubt Pettine is coaching Monday. 2) i doubt Johnny Manziel will be there by the end of the offseason either.

    my guess is that the Browns will trade Manziel to Dallas, what for, i dont know. the Browns will likely draft a QB with the top pick in the draft. honestly, i would like them to draft Cardale Jones and they still could. the draft could end up like this…Bosa with the first overall pick, then Cardale in round 2.

    as for Johnny, he’ll end up in Dallas and for his sake, he cleans up his act because if he doesnt, then his future in the nfl is slim.

  57. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Hey Pettine, you do know you live in a glass house, right?

  58. @eagleswin

    We get that you are a Manziel apologist.

    But please, try to be honest in your attempts to defend him.

    Manziel is not the perfect employee that you are attempting to make him out to be.

  59. gtodriver says:
    Jan 2, 2016 5:54 PM
    @eagleswin

    We get that you are a Manziel apologist.

    But please, try to be honest in your attempts to defend him.

    Manziel is not the perfect employee that you are attempting to make him out to be.

    ———————–

    Does that mean you are a Manziel “hater”? You do seem to love labels.

    Not sure i’m an apologist. I said he did everything that was asked of him at practice and was praised for studying the playbook this year. If you can show me that he missed a practice this year or was criticized for not studying the playbook this year than i will admit i am wrong.

    The only trouble he got in off the field was the trouble Pettine made for him.

    He’s young and immature but it doesn’t say in his contract that he has to be in bed by 9 or go to church on sundays. He’s not really someone i’d want to hang out with but he’s on the roster and as long as he’s on the roster you should field the best team possible.

  60. Eagleswin

    Is it a good thing for a person with a concussion to fly to Vegas?

    I didn’t think so.

    Funny, as you were apologizing, he’s out in Vegas partying…. 😀

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