Tom Brady Sr. calls league’s PSI checks “laughable”

Posted by Mike Florio on February 4, 2016, 11:28 AM EST
AP

When last we heard from the father of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, the elder Brady went berserk on the league’s handling of #DeflateGate. Now that the league has made it clear that whatever random data regarding air pressure in footballs the league collected during 2015 games won’t be disclosed, Tom Brady Sr. has more to say.

“That’s laughable. It’s just laughable,” Brady Sr. told Christopher L. Gasper of the Boston Globe. “I don’t unfortunately think it was in the league’s best interest to release something that exonerated Tom. All the rest of it is nonsense. It’s air.”

That may be the last Tom Brady Sr. has to say on the topic, if he can help it.

“My wife and I have decided as much as it affected us last year, we’re not going to let it affect us moving forward,” Brady Sr. told Gasper. “We’re trying to forgive an obvious plastering of our son’s reputation. We’re trying to say, you know what, forgive and forget. As a Christian, it is eating me up inside. It ate my wife up. It’s hard to do. It’s easy to be bitter.”

Tom Brady Jr. likely remains bitter, and for good reason. The league still wants to suspend him four games, and the cloud that hovered over the 2015 offseason has returned for 2016, with Brady’s case headed for a hearing in federal appeals court next month. He still could miss the first four games of the next regular season.

It has caused many to wonder whether Brady Jr. will join all other past Super Bowl MVPs on Sunday, when the league hopes to trot them out for the 50th Super Bowl. No one knows whether Brady Jr. will be there, including Brady Sr.

“He said he would let us know soon,” Brady Sr. said. “I have no idea whether he is going to do it or not do it. I didn’t know he was going to Michigan [for National Signing Day] until I read the paper.”

Before simply showing up on Sunday, Brady Jr. should ask his lawyers to see if his willingness to participate in the dog-and-pony portion of the proceedings could be used as a carrot to entice a settlement of his case. Maybe the 50th Super Bowl is the best backdrop for putting #DeflateGate to bed, once and for all.

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  4. No matter what side of it you are on you have to admit Brady Sr is a lot more charitable than any of us would be if that were our son.

  5. Oh boo hoo …. Your almost 40 year old who makes millions has smear marks on his rep … Mmmmmm…. Kinda goes along with the territory…. Sounds like more whiners from the country club crew

  6. phinfan says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:31 AM
    Daddy to the rescue. I bet he was always one of those annoying parents on the sideline.
    ____________

    Archie Manning. Ever heard of him?

  9. Brady should go, and wear two of his SB rings on his middle fingers.

    Now, let’s keep the story about Blandino’s version of PSI readings being recorded alive. How is that possible that Dean & Roger are so far apart on their information? Sorry, it was rhetorical.

    Every time we hear a new bit of information it gets worse for Haternation. Surely takes some of the sting out of not being in the big game.

  11. The Broncos and Panthers are too boring, so it’s time for Tom Terrific to hog the spotlight from them again. Gotta get some viewership for the league.

    He’ll be back putting together another run next year.

    #1 in jersey sales #1 in rings #1 in life

  15. Settlement? Why settle when the appeals court is going to uphold the vacating of his suspension?

    Surely Goodellbot would give up at that point and throw in the towel.

    Wouldn’t he?

  16. If my son cheats he should pay. Nothing like having parents that enable. The cry baby is guilty, let him pay.

  19. The whole thing can be resolved going forward by simply having the NFL and NFL supervised crew responsible for the footballs are used in each game, rather than each team. They should all be playing with the same regulation ball. Of course, Brady, who was the main advocate or having the teams supply/supervise the handling of the footballs won’t be happy, but the NFL should be more worried about the integrity of the game, rather than whether a team or a player is happy.

  20. The thought that releasing psi data would somehow exonerate Brady is laughable. How does that work again? The ideal gas law proves that the Deflator was receiving autographed items from Brady as encouragement for his dieting?

  21. It’s amazing how many people are just filled with hate on here.

    I’m not a fan of Tom Brady but that doesn’t give me the right to be stupid.

  22. Hoping Tom shows up on Sunday and thoroughly enjoys his time with his fellow S.B. MVP’s.
    And when Roger comes by to shake his hand and attempts to engage in meaningless small talk my sincere hope is Brady will roll his eyes, turn his back and walk away.
    Tom Brady should not miss out on ceremonies that honor him and his HOF career because of a lying sniveling weasel like Roger Goodell.

  23. The only thing laughable is Brady cheating and not manning up to it and Cheatriot fans deflecting the real truth by spewing hate and lies.

    Seriously Brady should just admit he did it. The circumstantial evidence is so overwhelming. Who cares about the science that can’t be replicated. The ideal gas law shows there is an affect on the psi, but you can’t create the exact control environment in a lab (not all the footballs were in the same exact environment through out the game, some were used, some were in a bag, some were being kept dry with towels) when you are talking about a .3 or .4 psi tampering.

    There was suspicion that Brady tampers with his footballs, then a deflator guy sneaks the balls in the restroom and lies about it and using an non-existent urinal. There are texts about big needles and inflating and the only thing deflating is his passer rating and going to espn, and black mailing for new kicks. Destroying cell phones and Brady’s statement that I don’t think I cheat, doesn’t sound convincing at all. And Patriots not 100% complying with investigation like they said they would. Explain that homers.

    Any non Cheatriot homer believes they cheated. It’s not from hate and why would Kraft’s buddy Goodell order a witch hunt. It only makes the league and players look bad.

  25. Keep in mind, to believe he’s innocent I have to accept that “the deflator” was in reference to weight loss. And “I won’t go to espn” was in reference to autographed shoes.

    You can say there’s not enough “hard proof” to say definitevely that he did it, but there is certainly evidence that suggests that they did. Keep in mind there were still 4 balls where the PSI was below even the maximum estimated affect of the “ideal gas law” even with the more favorable guage.

  26. The NFL should just admit the PSI measurement confirm the Ideal Gas Law. They should admit they screwed up and return the Patriots # 1 pick.

    They can save face by docking NE’s # 4 pick for non-cooperation.

  28. Brady needs to stay gangster with this one, how he just won’t let it go. Just ask the president of the United States who missed out on an oppurtunity to meet Brady becuase he is a pats hater.

  29. If every single reading shows that the balls tested are within spec, then that proves that the “Ideal Gas Law” is merely an approximation applicable only to laboratory conditions, as every definition of it states.

    In other words, yes he did. #cheater #deflator

  30. Yes it’s all funny now but it probably would of been a whole different matter if the equipment personal would of been made to come clean under oath. Brady’s court appear was a sham to anything toward trying to find the truth in a court of law.

  32. He was the first to come out and call it Frame gate. Everyone laughed, said he was delusional. Rationale people inclduing pats haters say the report and agreed with him. Framegate indeed. Only irrational Pats haters think that Goodell and NFL is right, and Brady deserves to be punished for being a great quarterback. That makes me laugh… teeeeeheeeee

  34. At least we know being a crybaby runs in the Brady family.
    =======================
    Yep, the apple doesn’t fall far…….

  35. A sample of some of the dumbest people on the planet: JChipwood, ReligionIsForIdiots, Factsman66, VancouverSportsBra says:

    “Before simply showing up on Sunday, Brady Jr. should ask his lawyers to see if his willingness to participate in the dog-and-pony portion of the proceedings could be used as a carrot to entice a settlement of his case.”

    They also better make sure that the League’s lawyers don’t have their fingers crossed behind their backs when they answer. LMFAO, because it seems to me that is exactly what happened when Kraft and Goodell reached a deal on the teams punishment.

  36. If I was Brady, I would stick my middle finger at the league and not show up to SB50 after all the BS they put him through with no proof. And now no PSI number because it would make the itiots in the league office look bad.

  37. No way Brady should go just to be booed. The only inducement for him to go is that Deion Branch will be there. I doubt he will.

  38. “its air”………..well “its just cork”, “its just pine tar”…….we can say that about any sport, but rules are rules. Its “just air” but every other QB abides by the air rules. Period. And when the weather gets cold, the ball gets harder. (which tom has openly admitted he doesnt like and prefers underinflated ball that are easier to grip) Air pressure was checked this yr and brady’s last 8 games of the yr (coldest games) he had 3 wins and 5 losses. But im glad we got Tom’s daddy’s opinion, someone who is unbiased. But if no balls this yr were under 12.5, then no ball deflated more than 1 psi AT MOST in any games…….but in Gillette they go down 2psi, just weird how that works.

  39. This article is easy fodder for those on their internet throne.

    This scandal is a fiasco driven by money. The wealthy owner have a puppet commish who has the public on his side….easy peasy. All 31 hate him so he is already guilty in the courts, and in the court of public opinion.

    If you look at the facts, it is easy to see, all records were turned over, all texts were turned over, nothing more was requested. Colts balls were deflated, Brady was framed…it is all there right in front of us.

    But the reason Brady is seen guilty is because of three reasons.

    1. “deflator” comment
    2. Brady got a new phone (his old one was not required as was told to him)
    3. Jealous owners and fans

    It’s that simple. Fans jumping to conclusions.

    Brady’s Dad is saying it for what it is and I am sure the moral internet authority will judge him for defending his son like any logical person would do, let alone a father.

    …it IS purely laughable and the following comments are more a reflection of the people posting them.

    Colossal waste of time and money…

  40. RavenzGunnerz says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:39 AM
    If Flacco is there i doubt he will show up. He still has nightmares about that 2012 beating.

    _____________

    2012? The world has changed alot since then.

    Also

    41-7 (in 2013)
    35-31 (in 2014)

    and

    5-11 (not a game, just the Ravens pathetic record last year).

    At least Jumpball Joe will always have that 1 superbowl.

  41. The only positive from this whole ordeal is that the NFL was exposed for the lying frauds that they are. At least nobody believes this garbage anymore.

  43. The problem here is everyone’s take is right, no matter what side you’re on. The NFL’s investigation was a joke. It was biased, unfair, and unscientific. Now they are going balls to the wall trying to nail Brady. On the other hand, everyone knows Brady cheated. It’s not even a question. The real question is whether anyone cares. As an Eagles fan, I really don’t.

  44. What’s laughable is the idea that The Deflator (who was fired and never rehired) was named The Deflator because he’s fat, and that Brady destroyed his phone in the car before he walked in to the interview because, well, he just does that every 6 months.

  45. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:45 AM
    If every single reading shows that the balls tested are within spec, then that proves that the “Ideal Gas Law” is merely an approximation applicable only to laboratory conditions, as every definition of it states.

    In other words, yes he did. #cheater #deflator

    ___________________

    And exactly WHO said every single reading shows the balls were within spec? I’ve never heard that. Not once.

    Btw, there is NO way the balls in the Minny playoff games stayed at 12.5. No way.

    Hater, you got nothing. Give it up.

  46. truthfactory says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:43 AM
    Keep in mind, to believe he’s innocent I have to accept that “the deflator” was in reference to weight loss. And “I won’t go to espn” was in reference to autographed shoes.

    You can say there’s not enough “hard proof” to say definitevely that he did it, but there is certainly evidence that suggests that they did. Keep in mind there were still 4 balls where the PSI was below even the maximum estimated affect of the “ideal gas law” even with the more favorable guage.

    __________________

    What about the Colts “deflated” balls? Don’t they count?

  49. 3 days till the Super Bowl… and it’s still all about the Patriots. 😀

    But seriously…once the 2nd Circuit upholds Judge Berman’s decision it will be interesting to see what the NFL does next. I’m sure Goodell’s seat would be warming up but on the other hand they could go to SCOTUS.

    On the surface it would seem dumb to imagine that SCOTUS would agree to hear this case but now I wonder if it’s not as far fetched as you’d think… it looks like there are landmark issues in play here about procedure, fairness and bias of the arbiter when it comes to binding arbitration. We shall see.

    🙂

  51. All the talk of air pressure and Ideal Gas Laws are moot. One thing is clear from the investigation. The Pats and Brady are not interested in creating a level playing field and showcasing their athletic prowess. They are interested in winning games by “bending the rules.” The released texts mean those employees knew something was amiss. Additionally Kraft can’t wait for this to go away. He sure accepted the punishments quickly for all the crap he is talking now.

  52. Brady should go and take every opportunity to disrespect Roger he can. Hopefully it’s on live TV before the start of the game, when Roger is shaking hands with every MVP and Tom puts his hands in his pocket and tells Roger to keep walking.

  54. Florio, you might have an insider’s knowledge. Will the judge reviewing the NFL appeal have the power (and the desire) to say, “Give us the results of your 2015-16 air pressure tests, and all the relevant data that goes with them (i.e., game temperatures, when the readings were taken, where the games were played and under what field conditions – snowing, raining, cold, hot, high altitude, etc.)

  55. it probably would of been a whole different matter if the equipment personal would of been made to come clean under oath.

    —
    Funny how Patriot Hater says this all the time and yet they either are unaware or choose to ignore the fact…that the NFL specifically, clearly and explicitly said that they did NOT want those two guys to appear at Brady’s appeal and testify under oath.

    If I had any concerns or doubt at the time… when I heard that, that was THE moment when it all went poof gone. 🙂 There really is no reason why the NFL would say such a thing other than them not being all interested in the actual truth.

    #FactsAreFacts
    #TruthIsTruth
    #TruthHurts
    #NFLFearsTheTruth
    #PatriotHaterCantHandleTheTruth

  56. On Bovada it’s 6-5 he won’t show in Santa Clara.
    Line was 7-1 on not showing to White House and they made a killing cause most didn’t know he was not going with Deflategate cloud too current at that time.
    He wont get the F U handshake in his uniform in Santa Clara that so many guaranteed would happen. This will be interesting to watch unfold.
    Goodell giving him ,or attempting to give, a clumsy man-hug and Brady avoiding him w/ awkward smile on his face.
    Roger if he shows maybe you could pay per view it- be a real money maker for you.

  57. I wonder if Montana Sr., Bradshaw Sr., or Aikman Sr. ever had to come to their sons defense to legitimize their legacy? No? Wonder why? Cause when you are truly considered one of the GOAT’s no one ever questions or discredits you. * * * *

  59. phinfan says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:31 AM
    Daddy to the rescue. I bet he was always one of those annoying parents on the sideline.
    ____________

    Archie Manning. Ever heard of him?

    Time to be quiet phinfan

  60. Goodell and his witch hunt, never ending tradition of cover ups, dishonest and the biggest joke is that he is whats wrong with the NFL. No integrity. Big stuffed suit wishing he could be Brady. He cant so he does everything possible to get his name associated with Brady even if its negative attention. Pathetic.

  61. PSI measurements should be made part of each games broadcast. The officials should report the measurements before kickoff, halftime and have them for post game. The league office told all fans of the NFL that PSI was the most important part of football and the integrity of the game. The NFL made all fans believe the patriots were cheating the game. Every fan deserves to know from now on that the league will only play every game with proper equipment.

  62. Tee hee 🙂

    Patriot Hater proves again and again every day that denial really isn’t just a river in Egypt!

    🙂

  63. It’s amazing how the jeaoulsy of the Patriots creates so many dumb comments:

    1) Brady Sr. obviously knows exactly what Tom Jr did or didn’t do and if Tom Jr was even a little guilty, Brady Sr would not be so angry or bitter. The guy owns a huge multimillion dollar estate planning business. He is no dummy.

    2) In hindsight it is pretty obvious that the railroading of Brady was very similar to what happened to Incognito in bullgate and the Saints players in Bountygate…..Goodell and NFL office lied about facts, because they had an agenda to carry out and truth be damn.

    3) if Pats were letting air out of balls, how come Wells and his team in reviewing all video surveliance of past few years home games never saw any other incidence of McNally going into a bathroom or going to an unfilmed area when bringing balls to game? Wells would have at least reported that on seveal (or even one) occasion McNally did not go straight tot e field with the balls….yet reviewing all that video in all those otehr home games, McNally apprently went staright to the field.

    So anyone who still thinks the Ideal Gas Law is debatebale or that NFL offixe did not lie and make this up….sorry your are plain dumb.

  64. pete2112 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:37 AM
    Shut up Mr. Brady.

    —————————

    Why? He was simply answering a question that someone asked him in an interview. In other words, his opinion was solicited…..unlike yours.

  65. There was suspicion that Brady tampers with his footballs, then a deflator guy sneaks the balls in the restroom and lies about it and using an non-existent urinal. There are texts about big needles and inflating and the only thing deflating is his passer rating and going to espn, and black mailing for new kicks. Destroying cell phones and Brady’s statement that I don’t think I cheat, doesn’t sound convincing at all. And Patriots not 100% complying with investigation like they said they would. Explain th

    —

    First he didn’t “sneak the balls ” he walked out of a room filled with NFL officials then walked past a “high ranking NFL official ” per the video and the wells report. And no one said a word.

    As for the text. How do you we know he wasn’t referring to what Henry do BEFORE he brought the balls to the officials? WE DONT because we can’t tell what is and what isn’t sarcasm in a text between 2 friends.

    And stop with the blackmailing again you don’t know if it was sarcasm or not. And it’s quite common for players to give stuff to locker room attendants and other team employees. I know this for a fact because I did my internship with the Bucs in 2001. I have and autographed game worn jersey from Brooks and cleats from Joun Lynch.

    And because he said “urinal” instead of “toilet” that means guilty?

    Answer this. If they were doing something wrong then WHY would Brady text JJ telling him to bring the rules to the officials in reference to what the psi levels should be. If they were doing something wrong why would they want to draw attention to themselves?

  70. The only thing laughable is Brady cheating and not manning up to it and Cheatriot fans deflecting the real truth by spewing hate and lies.

    Seriously Brady should just admit he did it. The circumstantial evidence is so overwhelming. Who cares about the science that can’t be replicated. The ideal gas law shows there is an affect on the psi, but you can’t create the exact control environment in a lab (not all the footballs were in the same exact environment through out the game, some were used, some were in a bag, some were being kept dry with towels) when you are talking about a .3 or .4 psi tampering.

    There was suspicion that Brady tampers with his footballs, then a deflator guy sneaks the balls in the restroom and lies about it and using an non-existent urinal. There are texts about big needles and inflating and the only thing deflating is his passer rating and going to espn, and black mailing for new kicks. Destroying cell phones and Brady’s statement that I don’t think I cheat, doesn’t sound convincing at all. And Patriots not 100% complying with investigation like they said they would. Explain that homers.

    Any non Cheatriot homer believes they cheated. It’s not from hate and why would Kraft’s buddy Goodell order a witch hunt. It only makes the league and players look bad.
    ——–

    This posts raises a lot of good points and got a lot of thumbs down. So I’m curious, to those who think he’s innocent, do you honestly believe “the deflator” is in reference to weight loss??? Giving thumbs down is easy, but explaining why “the deflator” nickname correctly refers to weightloss, and texts about “going to espn” are in reference to autographs is very very hard.

    I’m sure if Manning is found to text back and forth with a guy nicknamed “HGH King”, he would simply explain that it’s referring to “Helping Good Humans King” and you’d buy that excuse too and scream- “No proof! He’s innocent!!”

  71. When the results of the Ted Wells investigation were first published I was convinced Brady was guilty. But the way the league has acted in the aftermath makes me doubt. Why not just check and publish all the PSI data from every game? It’s easily within their means to do so. One can only assume it is because the data doesn’t support their position.

  72. truthfactory says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:43 AM

    Keep in mind there were still 4 balls where the PSI was below even the maximum estimated affect of the “ideal gas law” even with the more favorable guage.

    _______________________

    You’re wrong with this little point. The only people still believing this crap are the ones that don’t want the truth (factory), so arguing with you is pointless. So keep believing the lies feed to you. Keep believing your team should have won something somewhere when they were out played by the Patriots. Hopefully one day your team will be good enough that you stop being more excited about a Patriots loss than a win be them. Hopefully…

  75. superpatriotsfan says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:07

    Why are we still talking about Brady? He lost, losers shouldn’t be in the limelight.

    —-
    That’s because the 4 time World Champions own you.

    🙂

    #UrNOTHINGComparedToUS
    #UrNotWorthyOfBeingIntheSameSentenceAsUS
    #BowToUS
    #BowToYourMaster
    #BowToYourSuperior
    #BowToTheNFLsGreatestDynasty
    #BowToThe4TimeWorldChampions
    #WeAreInYourHeadToSay
    #GetUsedToItCupcakes

  76. abninf says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:53 AM
    What’s laughable is the idea that The Deflator (who was fired and never rehired) was named The Deflator because he’s fat, and that Brady destroyed his phone in the car before he walked in to the interview because, well, he just does that every 6 months.

    —

    No, what’s “LAUGHABLE” is that you don’t have a clue as to what you are talking about!

    The “deflator” was not fired. He was suspended and then reinstated.
    HE WAS THERE ALL SEASON.

    and please, please , please show us the article that says “Brady destroyed his cell yin the car before the interview”

    It’s one thing to have fun and talk a little smack. It’s another thing to be a moron.

  78. truthfactory says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:43 AM
    Keep in mind, to believe he’s innocent I have to accept that “the deflator” was in reference to weight loss. And “I won’t go to espn” was in reference to autographed shoes.

    You can say there’s not enough “hard proof” to say definitevely that he did it, but there is certainly evidence that suggests that they did. Keep in mind there were still 4 balls where the PSI was below even the maximum estimated affect of the “ideal gas law” even with the more favorable guage.

    __________________

    What about the Colts “deflated” balls? Don’t they count?
    —

    They certainly do count. The avg PSI of the Colts balls were about 12.51 while the Pats were about 11.33. Ideal gas could explain why Colts balls were slightly deflated, but the gap between the Colts balls and Pats could not. Plus add in the fact that “the deflator” took those deflated footballs in the bathroom right before kickoff… Then common sense takes over.

  82. luvpeytonmanning says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:00 PM

    Who cares what Tom Brady Sr says.
    —
    You do. 🙂 That’s why you clicked the link, read the article and posted in it.

    🙂

  83. What a joke. Although I think the league got it wrong when it comes to deflategate, Brady’s Daddy should stay out of his sons business. He already looks like a b*%#$ without your 2 cents

  85. I honestly don’t know why I read the comments on here. The case is over, Brady didn’t cheat, the Patriots don’t cheat as an organization, and anyone who doesn’t realize it just hasn’t been paying attention.

    It’s really over, except for the question of whether Kraft will get his draft picks back. That’s the injustice now. The league office has been exposed for the complete sham that it is, Brady is never going to serve a suspension for something he didn’t do, but still the league just can’t have the Patriots as good as they are, year in and year out, for 15 years and counting.

    I knew after the third Super Bowl that the Patriots would be the envy of every other fan, and would suffer the slings and arrows because of it, but unlike with the Yankees you couldn’t claim an unfair playing field due to money, so you had to invent a different reason and cling to it.

    Guess what, the Patriots are the model organization, and the sooner your team’s ownership stops their back biting and whining and starts emulating them, the sooner they might have a chance to succeed.

  86. So the NFL won’t simply tell is the methodology of the PSI tests, nor the results, and N.E haters don’t find that the least bit interesting or sketchy?

  88. Although I’m a Pats fan, I wish Tom Sr would stay quiet. Don’t go the pitifully embarrassing path of Archie Manning. Take the high road like Tom Jr.

    Let us fans state the obvious. If there was even the slightest hint that the psi results backed the NFL’s fanciful claims of tampering, they would have been “leaked” to BSPN, the Indy Star, and all the other disreputable, disingenuous, lapdog spots “news” organizations. By hiding the results and playing coy, the NFL has once again proven that they are corrupt and incompetent!

    Brady and the Pats did not tamper with the footballs. Only the most blind and jealous know-nothings still believe any tampering was done. When the NFL states that there was no cheating regarding psi this year, they don’t mention any psi levels. NE should demand to see the results and then demand back the stolen draft picks and cash!

  90. abninf says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:53 AM

    What’s laughable is the idea that The Deflator (who was fired and never rehired) was named The Deflator because he’s fat, and that Brady destroyed his phone in the car before he walked in to the interview because, well, he just does that every 6 months.
    ————————–

    What’s laughable is that you actually believe any of that BS that you wrote.

  92. Why doesn’t Brady Snr just keep quiet. It’s nothing at all to do with him so stay out of it. Your son is a cry baby we all know that,
    so go away and come back next season. Enough is enough of that name, thanks.

  95. If he goes will he bring the asst equipment manager, the deflator, with him? that MVP is as much as his as it is Brady’s…..

  96. richabbs says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:42 AM
    The whole thing can be resolved going forward by simply having the NFL and NFL supervised crew responsible for the footballs are used in each game, rather than each team. They should all be playing with the same regulation ball.

    ________________________________________

    I agree your proposal makes a lot of sense for the league to implement. But you are aware that the “thing” is in federal appeals court, right? I don’t understand how that is resolved by changing the rules. Ultimately, even those of us who root against Brady and the Pats must acknowledge that the 12.5-13.5 PSI rule was impossible to enforce properly given the pre-game routine that occurred during last year’s AFCCG. You can’t catch someone for speeding without proof they exceeded the speed limit.

  98. What’s laughable is your son promoting UGGS and getting hair plugs on a weekly basis. This is why you’ll never see Tammy take a TV job or appear on TV at all when he retires because it will be too noticeable to cover up and he will hide like the fake little baby he is

  100. Daddy to the rescue. I bet he was always one of those annoying parents on the sideline.
    ____________

    Archie Manning. Ever heard of him?
    __________________________________
    Nice. When drowning, play the Divert card. Maybe you should save the Manning hate for an article on the Mannings? Just sayin

  101. So to summarize, Tom Brady Sr. condones cheating, as long as it’s his son that benefits. Got it.

  102. Was it laughable that he destroyed his cell phone?

    Was it laughable that the “deflator” was just trying to lose weight?

    Eh, Brady Sr?

  104. truckinmack says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:01 PM
    Florio, you might have an insider’s knowledge. Will the judge reviewing the NFL appeal have the power (and the desire) to say, “Give us the results of your 2015-16 air pressure tests, and all the relevant data that goes with them (i.e., game temperatures, when the readings were taken, where the games were played and under what field conditions – snowing, raining, cold, hot, high altitude, etc.)
    ——————————————————————-

    That would certainly be interesting, but wouldn’t the judge simply be ruling on whether Goodell had the right “procedurally” under the CBA to suspend Brady? I’m not sure this about whether or not Brady has done anything wrong from a legal standpoint, as much as it should be….and I do wonder whether or not part of Berman’s rationale for his ruling was due to the belief that there’s no definitive proof of wrongdoing and he used the procedural angle in overturning the case. Regardless, the whole thing is such a joke and truly pathetic the league and Goodell are pushing it.

  105. tvguy22 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:11 PM
    Why no “Jr.” on the back of Brady’s jersey?

    0 0
    He may in fact not be a Junior. Some named alike choose not to use this tag.

  106. truecowboyfan says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:46 AM

    I think there actually might be a more annoying old man than Jerry Jones.
    *********************
    That would be the OTHER Texas owner, B0b McNair.

  107. mmack66 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:21 PM

    abninf says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:53 AM

    What’s laughable is the idea that The Deflator (who was fired and never rehired) was named The Deflator because he’s fat, and that Brady destroyed his phone in the car before he walked in to the interview because, well, he just does that every 6 months.
    ————————–

    What’s laughable is that you actually believe any of that BS that you wrote.
    _____________________________

    And here we someone who stopped paying attention months ago, and even then only read the headlines.

    The word “deflator” was mentioned in a single text (not even from Brady’s phone) out of thousands of texts. Months before the AFCCG. His nickname was “Bird.” Both McNally and Jastremski were reinstated by the NFL and NE back in September.

    Next, Brady destroyed his phone only after he was told by Ted Wells and Roger Goodell that the phone was no longer needed. AFTER HE WAS TOLD IT WAS NO LONGER NEEDED.

  108. abninf says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:53 AM
    What’s laughable is the idea that The Deflator (who was fired and never rehired) was named The Deflator because he’s fat, and that Brady destroyed his phone in the car before he walked in to the interview because, well, he just does that every 6 months.
    _____________________________________

    Wrong again… McNally was not fired and IS working for the Patriots again, was there all season and Brady replaced his phone after the interviewing process. Please get you stuff straight before making your comments.

  109. abninf says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:53 AM
    What’s laughable is the idea that The Deflator (who was fired and never rehired) was named The Deflator because he’s fat, and that Brady destroyed his phone in the car before he walked in to the interview because, well, he just does that every 6 months.

    8 23
    The employee in question was in fact rehired. Might want to get your facts straight before mouthing off.

  110. truthfactory says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:13 PM

    They certainly do count. The avg PSI of the Colts balls were about 12.51 while the Pats were about 11.33. Ideal gas could explain why Colts balls were slightly deflated, but the gap between the Colts balls and Pats could not. Plus add in the fact that “the deflator” took those deflated footballs in the bathroom right before kickoff… Then common sense takes over.

    _________________________________________

    This is inaccurate. As I understand the copious amounts of post-hoc analysis following the AFCCG (understanding that the dataset is incomplete without temperature, time, moisture, pre-game measurements) the consensus was the in fact the measurements taken for the Colts balls were the ones that were outside expected values. One of these analyses was conducted by the Wells/Exponent group. And one logical conclusion from this is that they were brought to room temperature before measuring. But again, we don’t really know.

    Exponent found the Pats balls within the normal range. The evidence used by Exponent to exculpate Brady was the difference in deflation between Pats/Colts balls. With, again, the clear outlier being the Colts balls, not the Pats balls. The temperature difference explains it. Illegal deflation does not.

    You know what would help? A full dataset of last year’s pre-game, halftime, postgame pressure readings. That would clear this whole thing up. If only such a dataset existed…..

  111. richabbs says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:42 AM
    The whole thing can be resolved going forward by simply having the NFL and NFL supervised crew responsible for the footballs are used in each game, rather than each team. They should all be playing with the same regulation ball. Of course, Brady, who was the main advocate or having the teams supply/supervise the handling of the footballs won’t be happy, but the NFL should be more worried about the integrity of the game, rather than whether a team or a player is happy.
    ___________________________________

    Why they can leave them at the hotel like the crew did before the Patriots game THIS season??? You’d think that if there’s a game on a crew’s schedule where they will be extra careful with the balls it’s in NEW England?? Nope they left them at the hotel. League of integrity… lol

  112. Enough is enough of that name, thanks.

    —
    And yet here you are clicking on the topic, reading it and posting in it.

    🙂

  113. What about the Colts “deflated” balls? Don’t they count?
    —

    They certainly do count. The avg PSI of the Colts balls were about 12.51 while the Pats were about 11.33. Ideal gas could explain why Colts balls were slightly deflated, but the gap between the Colts balls and Pats could not. Plus add in the fact that “the deflator” took those deflated footballs in the bathroom right before kickoff… Then common sense takes over.
    ______
    What if the colt balls were submitted at 13.5 or higher and the pats at 12.5? They weren’t all the same for both teams. Common sense would tell you if a guy goes in a room for 1 min 40 seconds and you think he tampered with all 12 balls in that small amount of time, don’t you think the nfl could finish measuring the remaining 8 balls after they found 3 of 4 were under the limit instead of saying “we ran out of time” when their task was to specifically measure both teams’ balls? What does common sense tell you? Maybe 3 of 4 are under, guys. Let’s just stop now.

  114. Lol Tee Hee Lol Tee Hee! More choedah head tears for DuperSunday week! Shut up old fart, enjoy the couch with your cheating son, his cheating coach and corrupt owner and the most delusional, annoying bandwagon fanbase all born on that snowy night vs. The Raiders in 2001.

    The GOAT Four Asterisk Legacy “FOR EH VER! FOR EH VER!” – Squints from The Sandlot

  115. Holy crap! Is there really a $150 Million buyout clause in Goodell’s contract? WOW! No wonder this oaf still has a job. 🙁

  116. So you compare Archie Manning to Tammy Tampons father ??…. Really ??…. Pats fans KARMA is gonna stomp all over you clowns…. And it’s gonna be astronomically hilarious!!!

  119. truthfactory says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:43 AM
    Keep in mind, to believe he’s innocent I have to accept that “the deflator” was in reference to weight loss. And “I won’t go to espn” was in reference to autographed shoes.

    ________________________________________

    No you don’t have to accept that. It would be quite strange, though, if he was named “the deflator” because he illegally deflated balls below the limit after the referee inspected them. If we were to believe that, there would be evidence right? That would be really easy for the NFL to confirm or deny. All they would have to do is record the pressure of the football, and see if it was below the limit.

    Didn’t they already do that?

  120. rutledge3197 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:45 PM
    So you compare Archie Manning to Tammy Tampons father ??…. Really ??…. Pats fans KARMA is gonna stomp all over you clowns…. And it’s gonna be astronomically hilarious!!!

    —

    You can pretty much discredit any comment if they use the word “KARMA”.

  123. Anyone with a IQ over 10 (except Goodell and possibly also his hamfisted lawyers Dash/Pash/Trash whomever) KNOW that Berman made his ruling absolutely bulletproof. Maybe that $1M+ for completely wasted legal fees could have been spent more wisely on those NFL veterans who no longer know their names because of head trauma, Rog? Hope the judge this time order the stolen draft picks be given back to the Pats and for Goodell personally to be fined $10M and banned from management of a pro sports leagues for perpetuating this fiasco. He’s an insane loser and a disgrace to the league.

  124. “Of course, Brady, who was the main advocate or having the teams supply/supervise the handling of the footballs won’t be happy, ”

    Keep telling the lie. Brady and Manning didn’t “advocate” anything. They were invited by the league committee looking at the ball handling process to comment on what they’d like.

  125. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:45 AM
    If every single reading shows that the balls tested are within spec, then that proves that the “Ideal Gas Law” is merely an approximation applicable only to laboratory conditions, as every definition of it states.

    ———–
    This one made me laugh. You think that none of the tested balls lost any air pressure? And the Ideal Gas Law turns out to be completely irrelevant? I don’t think “approximation” means what you think it does.

    But thanks for the chuckle.

  126. all born on that snowy night vs. The Raiders in 2001.
    —

    “I can never play for the Oakland Raiders. Their fans are a bunch of jerks.”
    — A real quote from Tom Brady

    🙂

  127. luckyforus says:
    Feb 4, 2016 11:43 AM

    The only thing laughable is Brady cheating and not manning up to it and Cheatriot fans deflecting the real truth by spewing hate and lies.

    Seriously Brady should just admit he did it. The circumstantial evidence is so overwhelming. Who cares about the science that can’t be replicated. The ideal gas law shows there is an affect on the psi, but you can’t create the exact control environment in a lab (not all the footballs were in the same exact environment through out the game, some were used, some were in a bag, some were being kept dry with towels) when you are talking about a .3 or .4 psi tampering.

    There was suspicion that Brady tampers with his footballs, then a deflator guy sneaks the balls in the restroom and lies about it and using an non-existent urinal. There are texts about big needles and inflating and the only thing deflating is his passer rating and going to espn, and black mailing for new kicks. Destroying cell phones and Brady’s statement that I don’t think I cheat, doesn’t sound convincing at all. And Patriots not 100% complying with investigation like they said they would. Explain that homers.

    Any non Cheatriot homer believes they cheated. It’s not from hate and why would Kraft’s buddy Goodell order a witch hunt. It only makes the league and players look bad.
    =========

    Amen Brother!! Let me add this….
    All Cheaters, cheat for life, it’s ingrained.
    The Titles**** Are**** Worthless****
    Need those hushed internally to speak on behalf of the Brady helmet scheme….it’s been hushed for too long.

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  128. This just in: “Father defends son.”

    I don’t care what side of the fence you are on with this one. Anyone whining about Brady Sr. over this one must just enjoy having something to hate.

  130. If it’s your family name being destroyed, it’s easy to be bitter. You build that good name and jealous ex- Jets zealously try to destroy it. Haters are outraged that the father is outraged by the smear? It’s more than laughable for Goodell to bypass what the true intent of that PSI testing should be.. Proof that the Patriots footballs were tampered. There was no tampering then, there was no tampering now. Ignorance and malice is what created Deflategate.
    Should Brady attend the NFL hoopla? I hope not. The NFL does not value his hardwork, dedication and contribution to the sport. Why should he add more value to it? Better spend the time with his family which suffered much from the sham scandal.

  131. 2015 will forever be the year Tom Brady won two Super Bowls: one over the Seahawks, and then one over Roger Goodell. Remember, Goodell got so flustered he asked cops to go check on his vacation home in Maine in case somebody tried to TP it. Brady haunts his oddly sweaty dreams.

  132. Amen Brother!! Let me add this….
    All Cheaters, cheat for life, it’s ingrained.
    –

    I think you meant to say Haters hate for life.

    Seeing these two “impartial” commenters propping each other high comedy indeed. How pathetic are the lives of those whose sole purpose is to feebly attempt to torment fans of a team that has owned them for 15 years?

    There will always be a flat earth society. Hateroids are all charter members.

  134. The one thing the haters have in common is their lack of real facts. They didn’t bother reading the Wells Report or the numerous reports that debunked those theories. They don’t know, or care to know, what the ideal gas law is. They don’t want to hear that Judge Berman sided with Brady and basically embarrassed the NFL and their case in court (in the NFL’s chosen venue btw).

    Deep down they realize that Brady is everything that they are not – therefore regardless of the facts, their lives are not complete unless they continue with the hate – so keep it coming….I find this to be very entertaining.

  135. Serious question… Why all the hate for Brady? He is a machine! Chill out haters. You’ve fallen for the NFLs trap. Read the facts they will set you free of all your hate!

  137. Let’s turn the clock back to 2004 when Tom said after the AFCCG – “It’s easy when you know the answers to the test”

    This was atuned to the spygate scandal and the swept under the rug green dot scandal that has really yet to rear its head in full force 🙂

  139. I’m not sure how anyone can claim that Brady fully cooperated when Brady himself offered to serve a two game suspension for non-cooperation. Brady admitted he didn’t fully cooperate, this subject isn’t debatable.

  140. With all due respect to Pats fans and the Pats organization-and I do respect both. Why keep dredging up this stuff when we have two pretty good teams getting ready to play in the SB?

    Love the Pats but don’t care what Brady Sr. thinks and do enjoy debating Panthers/Broncos.

  141. Its nice to hear a Brady not talking about the game, because that means the PATS ARE NOT IN IT. Just 7 months guys, and you’ll get to play again. Unless TB gets suspended.

  142. Funny, my car tells me every morning on these cold days that the ideal gas law is real, that things lose air pressure when it’s cold. Then I drive a while, stop, get my coffee, turn the car back on and since the tires have warmed up (it’s called friction) the little light on the dashboard tells me my tires are good. Never had to to put any air them. Sad that my car is smarter than 90% of you people.

  144. Oh flash it must pain you so that your overrated team with its “dynasty ” that you claim is 15 years old but yet just one title in ten years …. Please child … Sit back realize that is just about over and you can do is tap on about Tammy and the good old days ……you don’t like karma cuz it’s coming …. Deal with it

  145. The NFL INTENTIONALLY left him off the Super Bowl 50 Quarterbacks poster they released prior to the season. It was a GLARING omission for the player recently selected at the GREATEST SUPER BOWL PLAYER EVER, even if it was by BSPN. I think we can all agree on that.

    Tom should give them what they wanted. He should not be there. I think it would make a better statement on where he is with this issue, and where the NFL is. It’s a farce, designed to increase the stranglehold of the owners on the players through the CBA.

  146. I think Brady did what he was accused of and I also see his father’s point.

    If the NFL is going to go to the trouble of collecting the data to prove or disprove that balls are, or are not, going to lose pressure during cold weather games, they should release their findings.

    The circus this controversy has created went past ridiculous a long time ago and will not end until the league is more transparent about what they did or did not find.

    And I write it again, while I believe that Brady did what he was accused of, I also do not believe that they were winning because of it.

  147. I had my fun on this last year please please not again. I Don’t like anything to do with the Patriots but if the truth be told and that goes for 99.9% of people calling Brady this and that including myself if he came up to us and said hello we would all cream our pants.
    Signed a fan of THE MIAMI DOLPHINS

  151. brady will not show. At the mere sight of The Denver Broncos defense brady will stumble two steps and fall to the field.

  153. Here we have an all-time great who did absolutely nothing to those footballs in that AFCCG,

    and yet he was framed and bashed so badly that public opinion polls put him with murderers like OJ Simpson on the list of supposedly disreputable characters.

    Morons simply ate up the NFL’s lies.

    Tell me that you wouldn’t be furious if someone in your family were set up with bogus allegations like that.

  154. I just have to laugh at people attempting to use the Ideal gas law to try to prove anything here. The law itself is derived from kinetic theory and there are 3 major assumptions made in order to simplify the expression down to the famous PV=nRT. No actual gas actually meets the requirements for the assumptions, but it is close enough if you can control the conditions a bit. So given that, trying to use it after the fact to determine how much said balls should have deflated is probably going to have some significant error as compared to the actual results.

  155. Not reported in this article, but in the article used to originate this story is the following:

    “If Peyton wins this thing that’s great. He’s going out on top,” said Brady Sr. “It bothers me that people are trying to pile on Peyton Manning. Until there is hard evidence don’t do to Peyton what they did to Tommy last year, pile on without proof and evidence. It’s unjustified.”

  156. After thinking about deflategate for more than a year I have come to the conclusion that the real problem has nothing to do with the Patriots.

    Why do we care about ball deflation? Because Goodell made us all care. People that think the Patriots cheated, people that don’t. Tom Brady Sr.

    Everyone suddenly cares about something that has never mattered in the history of the NFL.

    The officials touch the ball on every play. I am sure in any past year they would just replace balls that seemed to soft to use on the field and have them pumped up again, like all of the rest of us have done in every pick up football game since we were kids.

    Goodell turned something that was never a big deal at all into something scientists from every university around North America have suddenly studied and tested.

    The purpose was not to protect the integrity of the game. It was to sensationalize, polarize and manufacture controversy and in turn more popularity for the NFL.

    It worked completely and it’s horrible.

    He’s doing the same thing with the catch rule now. We all knew what a catch was since the first time we touched a football and now suddenly nobody knows. It now creates plays that polarize fans.

  157. It’s always funny to me when people call the Patriots “overrated”

    I think they need to look up the definition of “overrated”

  158. You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t pay much attention to the words of a man who raised his son to be morally bankrupt.

  159. It was also in the league’s best interest not to release (and destroy) spygate evidence. The largest “plastering” of the league’s image.

  160. This league is becoming more and more of a joke. Goodell and greedy billionaire owners are making a mockery of the sport with witch hunts, incompetent officials and poor player safety. All to keep the ratings up and sponsor $ coming in.

    It’s getting more like the WWE. Brady was just a pawn in their game. This weekend’s SB50 is all set – the passing of baton from Peyton to Cam as league face. Great script – NFL finally accepts black QB.

    The league is a fraud led by frontman Goodell.

  161. rutledge3197 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 12:45 PM

    So you compare Archie Manning to Tammy Tampons father ??…. Really ??…. Pats fans KARMA is gonna stomp all over you clowns…. And it’s gonna be astronomically hilarious!!!
    —————————

    In the context of meddling fathers, Tom Brady, Sr. doesn’t even compare to Archibald Manning, who not only helped cover up Peyton’s teabagging habit, but cried and whined so much when Eli was about to be drafted by the Chargers, that they decided they didn’t need that, and chose somebody else.

  162. A.) Tom Brady took OATH to Tell the Truth

    Goodel REFUSED to take Oath to Tell the Truth.

    B.) Judge Berman asked NFL Attorney Pash : “What EVIDENCE d you have against Brady”

    Pash answered : “NONE Your Honor.

    C.) SCIENTIFIC FACT disproves that there was man-made intentional deflation of the footballs

    NFL answered with = We do not understand or know how cold weather deflates football psi. We NEVER did any testing = EVER.

    D.) The NFL said it was about ‘INTEGRITY of the Game’

    INTEGRITY means you value Truth & Facts as the highest level of communication and leadership requirements.

    Yet Goodel LIED on National TV and has not stopped LYING.

  163. Ok for all you Pats fans that wanna be Brady’s boyfriend… At least Mannings father played the game … What the hell did daddy Tammy do ???….. You clowns are such losers

  165. A) The texts referred to as the ballboy as “the deflator”
    B) They mention how he likes the balls ion the text
    C) Brady destroyed his phone before they were going to examine it!! (like everyone does that)
    D) Everyone involved in football knows the Patriots cheat!!!

    Brady image will be tarnished forever as a CHEATER!!!

  166. Ask Tommy Senior how many times a year he destroys, not recycle or wipe clean, but DESTROYS his phones

    Oh Tom Jr. buys him a new phone every year? Ok then, Oh, you say he takes the old one? Well, I’m sure he has a good privacy reason for it. Do you guys text? Oh you do? Do you have those records? Oh, they were destroyed too? Well never mind then.

  168. You people really have an unhealthy obsession with Tom Brady’s phone and Jim “Bird” McNally taking a leak.

  169. MIT and Wells Report both say under those conditions that day, Pats footballs should have been between the range of 11.2 and 11.5. Averaging both gauges, the Pats balls measured at 11.3. Perfectly acceptable.

  170. Goodell is the ONLY ONE mentioned here who will touch the Lombardi this year….I see NE waiting another decade just like they did before the last one. I’m glad my team helped them lose home field advantage. No team has ever lost 4 of their final 6 and won anything. At least they kept that streak going. TB”s hits this season took a year off his career, just one more shot for him and its over. AND he’ll probably be suspended a few games. Bring on the Jimmy!

  171. rutledge3197 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 3:58 PM

    Ok for all you Pats fans that wanna be Brady’s boyfriend… At least Mannings father played the game … What the hell did daddy Tammy do ???….. You clowns are such losers
    __________________________________________

    Run along jealous Troll….15 years of dominance in the NFL, 4 Super Bowls, AFC Championships, Conference Championships…The only loser here, is you.

    Kiss The RingS!

  172. gysot says:
    Feb 4, 2016 2:54 PM

    brady will not show. At the mere sight of The Denver Broncos defense brady will stumble two steps and fall to the field.
    _________________________________________

    And land squarely on his 4 Super Rings and 3 MVP trophies.

    Run along Troll…Patriots, TB12 & Pats Fans WIN AGAIN!

    Kiss The RingS!

  173. There has never been bigger cheaters that twist things more while seeking greater appeasement.

  174. If the Patriots hadnt been caught cheating the first time, they never would have been accused of it the other times.

  175. A) The texts referred to as the ballboy as “the deflator”
    B) They mention how he likes the balls ion the text
    C) Brady destroyed his phone before they were going to examine it!! (like everyone does that)
    D) Everyone involved in football knows the Patriots cheat!!!

    Brady image will be tarnished forever as a CHEATER!!!

    ————————————————

    The haters are drowning in their own ignorance.

    A) There was only 1 text by McNally himself 8 months before the deflategate game in the middle of a 6 month off season period where he was not involved with the team. He referred to himself “as the deflator”. There was no context around that text that had anything to do with footballs, psi, or the Patriots. In the thousands and thousands and thousands of texts and emails that Wells went through on 5 Patriot company cell phones there was no other mention of the word “deflator” – none. McNally is only at the stadium on the days of home games (8 regular season and maybe a playoff or 2). He has a real life and real job outside of the Patriots. The text was made at a time during the year when he was not involved with the team 8 months before the deflategate game.
    B)The Wells report clearly states that Brady wanted the balls set to the legal level of 12.5 psi. There are no other texts that say otherwise – none.
    D) I am totally impressed how “everyone” has decided to make you their spokesperson. How did you ever swing that? Impressive!
    C) What part of this quote from Wells do you not understand?

    -Ted Wells, 5/12/15:
    And I want to be crystal clear. I told Mr. Brady and his agents, I was willing not to take possession of the phone. I said, “I don’t want to see any private information.” I said, “Keep the phone. You and the agent, Mr. Yee, you can look at the phone. You give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word that you have given me what’s responsive.”

    The NFLPA was adamant they did not want Brady to set the precedent of Brady handing over his private phone. Brady, a celebrity, had already told Wells that Wells was not getting the phone. Brady handed over all relevant information during the appeal.

  176. By the way Gooell lied on Mike and Mike. He was asked if the NFL called for the termination of the Pats equip guys. He said NO Ok then why do the Pats have to ask the league for their reinstatement?

  177. cb3313 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 6:13 PM

    Run along Troll…Patriots, TB12 & Pats Fans WIN AGAIN!
    ““““““““““““““““`
    Not the AFC Championship….SLAP!

  179. ninjapleazee says: Should worry about teaching your son morals and ethics
    ==========================

    Let’s start with Goodell

    You ARE aware that anyone with half a brain now realizes and can see the proof that this was a frame job by Goodell and certain jealous owners in the first place, don’t you?

    I mean we know Roger likes to pretend like the Laws of Physics don’t apply to footballs – and thus “someone” deflated them.

    But apparently YOU have deluded yourself too!

    You might not realize it – but people are laughing at you

  180. Frame? Did they destroy Brady’s cell phone and frame him? Did they fire the ball boys immediately when the news broke? Half a brain would be a person that can see through the BS unlike all the Patriot faithful. Because he was able to snake his way out of if doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

    Once a cheat always a cheat. The Patriot way.

  181. Well told TB did not need phone just what was on it.
    The league told the Pats to remove the equip ppl involved The Pats did so at the behest of the league

    your half of the brain see the made up stuff the correct half of the brain sees the truth.

    NFL way accuse a team at the behest of the other owners screw up an investigation tell lie after lie and hope the simpletons buy it without asking intelligent pertinent questions

    They and you did

  182. gotdebttoo says:
    Feb 4, 2016 4:07 PM
    Ask Tommy Senior how many times a year he destroys, not recycle or wipe clean, but DESTROYS his phones

    Oh Tom Jr. buys him a new phone every year? Ok then, Oh, you say he takes the old one? Well, I’m sure he has a good privacy reason for it. Do you guys text? Oh you do? Do you have those records? Oh, they were destroyed too? Well never mind then.
    ==============
    I seriously wonder how many times it has to be repeated … Brady provided records for the destroyed phone at the appeals hearing. The NFL decided not to look at them. Never mind indeed.

  183. I’ve heard this many times the Patriots are a culture of cheating. Really they are?
    OK here we go I will now disprove this
    Deflategate. Judge Berman asked the NFL if they had any direct evidence of ball tampering all they could say was no. Hmm
    Oh and TB was the first guy to EVER be suspended for equipment violation. That type of violation only came with a fine before so why now?

    I lump formation gate and the tuck rule together with this question. If those two were against the rules at the time of the alleged infraction why the rule change to make them against the rules?
    Also tuck gate the Jets won the division that yr by beating the Pats on a Sunday 9/23 and one of the reasons was THEY benefited from the tuck rule.

    Spygate I give you that one that is the haters mantra

    Walkthroughgate having evidence to back up the allegation would be nice

    Smowplowgate HC Shula was also offered the use of the plow turned it down in hopes to catch the Pats cheating. His gamesmanship backfired Also Commish Rozelle said no rules were broken

    There is one other cheat that was in the Billy Sullivan era called IRgate the Pats were caught fined and lost a draft pick. I believe that was in 86

    So where is this culture of cheating? oh I get it is in your heads like the Pats success as it causes your jealousy

  184. Bronco’s Von Miller who intercepted a throw from Tom Brady in the division game said “it felt flat…” Is Tom Brady still doing it..? I’ll keep little children and footballs away from good Catholics…

  185. factman66 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 1:45 PM

    I’m not sure how anyone can claim that Brady fully cooperated when Brady himself offered to serve a two game suspension for non-cooperation. Brady admitted he didn’t fully cooperate, this subject isn’t debatable.

    ________________________________

    Wrong again!

  186. Yes it is because you lack fact. TB offered to serve a ONE game suspension to appease the league like Kraft chose not to fight. They did so to prevent a black eye that the league was giving the game that serves them financially rather than fight and make the league look foolish which it does as it is run by fools

  187. Lets follow the logic here…

    So nobody cheated with air pressure because the NFL was now known to be pro-actively monitoring, and the only team that was known to do it fired the balls boys. Given the above, we all know nobody would be stupid enough to deflate balls, YET, Tom Brady Sr, thinks that what happened in 2016 exonerates what the Patriots have been doing for 8 years?

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