Why no T.O. in Hall of Fame?

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Few can reasonably debate (although Randy Moss has tried) the proposition that Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver in NFL history. After Rice, most would say Terrell Owens and Moss are No. 2 and No. 3, or No. 3 and No. 2.

Regardless, there’s no doubt that Owens’ achievements merit a spot in Canton. So why didn’t he get one on his first try? More specifically, why did Marvin Harrison (with 29 fewer touchdowns, 1,354 fewer receiving yards, and only 24 more catches) get in on a night when Owens didn’t even make the cut from 15 to 10?

The officially unofficial explanation is that Owens’ reputation as a bad teammate kept him from getting in.

“The Hall of Fame ought to be for people who made their teams better,” proclaims Hall of Fame G.M. Bill Polian, “not [those] who disrupted their teams and made them worse.”

At times, Owens was indeed disruptive, for various reasons. But did Owens really make his teams worse? He returned from a broken ankle to be arguably the best player on the field in Super Bowl XXXIX, and the Eagles lost that game to the Patriots not because of anything T.O. did but despite an effort that everyone who was paying attention recognized as heroic and memorable.

Only after the Eagles refused to acknowledge those contributions with a contract providing him greater compensation and protections did he decide to provoke a trade or release in 2005. Was it an ill-advised, selfish move? Yes, but it was compelled by a system that allows teams to rip up contracts when a player underperforms but prevents players from doing the same when they overdeliver.

A decade later, media and fans seem to better understand that, when players choose to act like owners, players shouldn’t automatically be vilified the way Owens was. That said, Owens didn’t help himself by following his time in Philly with a stint in Dallas that featured a fractured locker room arising from allegations that Tony Romo and Jason Witten were conspiring to get Witten the ball more.

To the extent that the words of Polian, who while in the NFL did his own share of disrupting pretty much wherever he happened to be, had any weight in the Hall of Fame voting room on Saturday, does it mean Owens never gets in? Or does it means that he merely needs to spend a year or two in Michael Irvin/Cris Carter-style purgatory before getting a gold jacket?

Bet the farm on the latter. Indeed, Harrison’s ascension came after a delay that undoubtedly was influenced at least in part by the unresolved off-field events that happened in Philadelphia. Those factors aren’t supposed to matter when it comes to Canton, but until the voters are replaced by robots, those issues will creep into the assessment.

Polian’s opinion, clearly motivated by a desire to help Harrison get in over Owens, helped justify preventing Owens from jumping Harrison in the line to football immortality. Eventually, Owens will get in under the same de facto pecking order that, in a strange sort of way, ensures a more orderly progression.

It could happen in an eventual showdown with Moss, who can be accused of something Owens never did — not giving full effort on the field. Here’s hoping that, if Owens gets in and Moss doesn’t (which if they’re up at the same time would likely happen), Owens won’t crow that this means he was better than Moss. Under that argument, Harrison is better than Owens.

Harrison isn’t. Owens should have gotten in before him. But that’s the way the system works, and until someone can devise a better way to make the sausage, better ingredients often will be left on the shelf for the next year’s meal.

131 responses to “Why no T.O. in Hall of Fame?

  1. The Broncos have been to 8 Super Bowls and have 4 HOF members, and this is article critiquing the 2016 class we get?! How about some sharp criticism of that BS!

  2. Randy Moss is the best receiver of all time. No question about it. Jerry Rice drops down to 4th or 5th on my list because he is an admitted cheater. Using stick-um is a huge advantage and was illegal.

    I don’t have a problem waiting a year or two to put T.O. in. I think being a great teammate and leader on your team is important. Remember when he called 49’ers QB Jeff Garcia gay? (he is married to a Playmate of the Year) Talking crap about Donovan McNabb and then plenty of more issues in Dallas.

  3. The NFL is teeming with anal types from the Comish to the fans. TO doesn’t sit well with the anal set. He said some things they didn’t like.

  4. Polian is a stooge. TO did not make his teams worse. He basically made McNabb better, and got the Eagles over the hump and to the SB. Before he got there, they kept losing in the Championship game. Anyone really think Garcia would have been as effective without TO?

    TO is/was a nutcase and a diva, but the guy was a great football player. He was better than Harrison, who got to play with Manning most of his career. Imagine if TO had that luxury.

  5. Did anyone really think “Fair/Impartial” Bill Polian wouldn’t
    push M. Harrison vs T Owens?

    I’ve never been a T.O. fan, and dislike the Eagles, but if you watched that Eagle-Pats super bowl, when he played several weeks before he should have been able, how could you not be convinced he is HOF worthy.

    And for Polian to not mention those shady off season situations M Harrison was allegedly involved in, just shows Polian for the jaded reporter he really is.

  6. Harrison has been rejected twice before getting elected. Maybe HoF just don’t view Owens as a first ballot selection because of the off the field stuff?

  7. Love ME some ME
    Get your popcorn ready
    Bill Walsh thought he was an ass
    Cowboys thought he was an ass
    Eagles thought he was an ass

    His numbers will get him in but football is a team game so he has to wait a year or so

  8. Bill Polian’s statement is exactly why they need to revamp the election process. Too many voter’s particularly sports writers, have this personal vendetta and dislike for TO that has NOTHING to do with his ON FIELD accomplishments. They refuse to disregard his “diva” behavior and choose to punish him for it. Polian’s statement was idiotic is the sense that TO didn’t make teams better. Check Harrison’s playoff numbers Mr. Polian, he was a complete dud. I think current Hall Of Famers should be the main voters, not petty, vindictive writers that have never play a down of any organized football.

  9. Can T.O deny the use of his name and likeness for this sham b.s?

    This HOF crap is just another way that gossipping storytellers try to justify the existence of their profession as anything more legitimate than hair salon rumor mongers.

  10. More bizarre than this is all of the people around Manning who failed to win more than one Super Bowl, but made it into the HoF. Polian… Dungy? No thanks.

  11. How many times have two players in the same position gotten in the Hall the same year? Both Marvin Harrison and T. O. have the stats to get them into the Hall. The question and headline should be why Marvin and not T.O.

    The answer is actually pretty simple. One player was the poster child for professionalism and being a team player and the other was a pain for coaches, teammates, and league officials.

    Congrats Marvin

  12. From all accounts I have read, Harrison. Is a way worse guy off the files then TO and he didn’t even show up yesterday. is he going to show up to the induction ceremony?

    TO may have been a locker room distraction at times, but he’s by no means a bad guy. He played the game hard and he really should have been a first ballot HOF player.

    People really have to stop listening to Bill Polian. He is the most self serving talking head in the game right now.

  13. It’s just a matter of the NFL/HOF/media flexing it’s collective muscle, once again to exert power over a man they hate, yet a man who is every bit deserving as anyone who did make it.

    It really makes a mockery of the HOF, to omit a player, because you don’t like him. Last I heard Marvin Harrison was involved with a murder in PA. Apparently, only superficial character matters and only when it comes to a tantrum on the sidelines.

    Shame on anyone who helped deny TO admittance. There is no WR in the HOF, that is better.

  14. More bizarre than this is all of the people around Manning who failed to win more than one Super Bowl, but made it into the HoF. Polian… Dungy? No thanks.

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    As much as I despise Polian in his current role on TV, he does deserve to be in the HOF because of Indy + Buffalo.

    Dungy, no way. That’s ridiculous.

  15. Let Owens wait awhile before entering Canton. Has strong numbers, but the disruptions did harm the teams he played on. I don’t understand how anyone is entitled to a first ballot induction.

  16. “T.O. is a victim of one of the Patriots’ early cheating incidents.”

    Donovan McNabb was the QB that day, the Pats didn’t need to cheat.

  17. He’s not a people person eliciting the warm and fuzzies with the public. Yes the same people that vote for HOF entrance. That being said, he deserves to be in if stats were the sole concern but that’s just TO being TO.

  18. Randy Moss is the best receiver of all time. No question about it. Jerry Rice drops down to 4th or 5th on my list because he is an admitted cheater. Using stick-um is a huge advantage and was illegal.

    Shows how much you know about football. And you don’t think gloves (including TO) used by players today have much better grip than stick-um. You STILL have to run routes, get open and have speed. To say TO is better than Rice is asinine.

  19. It’s clearly for personal beefs, he DID make his teams better, the ’07 Cowboys only were there because of him, the ’04 Eagles were only there because of him. There is no valid reason to keep him out, other than voters had personal issues with him. Too much “insider” influence on HOF voting. Apparently Dungy is in there too because everybody loves him when his resume doesn’t warrant it.

  20. Lord Manning’s orbit and unequaled excellence will put each in the HOF:

    – Dungy

    – Marv

    – Edge

    – Polian

    – Saturday

    – Wayne

    – Freeney

    Each of these guys would otherwise never get in.

  21. I actually got to give it to Harrison. If you’re going to murder someone & then get away with it, lay low, for a very long time. Don’t be like OJ or Ray Lewis, and constantly be in the spotlight.

  22. Owens was a great player and his stats speak for themselves. But, he was train wreck as a teammate because it had to be about him and when he didn’t get his way, he pouted like a child. Should that count against him ? Yes, if the criteria is that he has to make his team better…he created fractions within the teams. So, its probably not a written rule to be a good teammate, but it is a factor when your playing a team sport. Yes, there are probably players in the hall that were not perfect teammates, but I’m guessing they didn’t cause disruptions to the degree Owens did.

  23. That Bill Polian is in the HOF, never mind influencing who else gets in is a travesty. The guy that used his influence and position to spearhead the neutering of defenses to the benefit of his team is now polishing his ‘legacy’ by pimping former colts Harrison and Dungy over more deserving candidates in Owens and Coryell.
    I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

  24. Moss and Owens are victims of their own creations. Should be first-time entrants into the HOF, but geez, fellas, both of you brought on yourselves. Wait another year or two, serve your penance. Not right, but that’s the way it goes.

  25. The Broncos have been to 8 Super Bowls and have 4 HOF members, and this is article critiquing the 2016 class we get?! How about some sharp criticism of that BS

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    Lets break this down…..one SB was in 1977. Who from that team should have gone in the Hall? No one I can really remember.

    They lost 3 in the 1980’s. Elway was fantastic. Aside from him, who else? Mecklenberg?

    Won 2 in the 90’s. Elway again. I think Davis should be in, but his career was kind of short due to the injury. Who else from that team should be there?

    I am actually surprised at only 4 Broncos, but just because they went to 8, doesn’t mean they should have loads of players in the Hall. They seem to have a lot of really good players, just not hall-worthy.

  26. Owens should have to wait a few years before getting into the Hall of Fame. I’m not suggesting that he should be frozen out as long as Cris Carter was, but Owens didn’t exactly transcend the position like Jerry Rice.

    Randy Moss actually transcended the position, but perhaps even he should wait a couple of years when eligible as he caused some disharmony in a couple of the teams he played with.

  27. In addition, in that 8 you are counting the SB from 2 years ago and the current one, so none of those players are even eligible for the Hall yet. Basically, its just 6 SB’s.

  28. Moss and TO at no. 2 and 3?! Hah! Don Hutson sety records in a non-passing game era that blew TO and Moss away. The league existed before 1990….

  29. I don’t normally like to debate HOF credentials as an outsider but Dungy has the same resume as Billick or Cowher. You don’t hear people making a case for them to get in. Sadly I think this is the effect of The Rooney Rule.

  30. florida76 says:
    Feb 7, 2016 10:05 AM
    Let Owens wait awhile before entering Canton. Has strong numbers, but the disruptions did harm the teams he played on. I don’t understand how anyone is entitled to a first ballot induction.
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    It’s not a matter of entitlement. It’s a matter of justification. It is simply ridiculous to put Harrison in while keeping TO out. TO was a PITA but there is no football reason that can justify selecting Harrison when a better WR is among the other candidates. The same goes for Dungy over Coryell.
    That is not to say Harrison is not deserving but not over Owens, whether it’s the first ballot or the twenty first.

  31. Ask Charles Woodson, or Champ Baily about Marv. My gut tells me they’re more qualified than the commenters on this board about Marv. Oh yeah, Deion’s neck is still swiveling after Marvin blew by him.

  32. It’s not the Hall of Stats, it’s the Hall of Fame. Don’t believe me? Look at Joe Namath’s lifetime career stats. But he had fame aplenty, and so did TO. Put him in.

  33. Don Hutson..lol
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    Put Moss or T.O. in that era and there would have been national fear that they were aliens from another planet..
    Comparing era to era is ridiculous.

  34. Owens was a disruptive, argumentative butt head. He was a horrible “me 1st” teammate, which obviously did (& should) factor into HoF voting.

  35. TO has better stats than Harrison because he demanded the ball and would throw a hissy fit if he didn’t get the ball. Harrison played within a system and was unselfish. Had he demanded the ball more I’m sure his numbers would match TO’s.

  36. The fact that TO didn’t even make the cut from 15 to 10 shows how stupid and vindictive those who vote are. Tells me everything i need to know.

  37. joker65 says:Feb 7, 2016 9:51 AM

    Polian is a stooge. TO did not make his teams worse. He basically made McNabb better, and got the Eagles over the hump and to the SB. Before he got there, they kept losing in the Championship game

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    In both of the playoff games that got the Eagles to the Super Bowl tha year, T.O didn’t play in either of them. If you wanna argue that he helped Donovan have the best statistical regular season of his career, that would be true, but he had zero to do with them finally winning theNFC cchampionship game

  38. I could debate the “Rice is#1” with ya but to put Moss and Owens at 2-3 is insanity. Better receivers are playing the game at present than those two. Jones, Johnson and Fitzgerald come to mind.

  39. I wouldn’t vote for TO to get in either. All the folks who think TO deserves to be in the HOF are nozzles, just like TO. Football is taking hits over bad characters all the time. Why make a statement to the rest of the head cases by putting a head case like Owens in the hall? He did enough harm to football to never be let in IMO.

  40. His play says he should be in, so these guys need to decide whether ‘character’ is part of the equation or not. They don’t put guys in solely because of their character, so they shouldn’t keep then out for that reason either.

  41. Polian is a fraud and a cheat. He used his position to initiate many rule changes that were used to help his own team to win, at the expense of the rest of the league (See changes that freed his wide receivers to run downfield with minimum impedance). Of course by now, everyone must know about his phony, piped-in crowd noise that was revealed when the recording skipped while on national TV.

    Go away, Polian. You and your opinions and ideas cannot be trusted. You’re bad for the game and have been for years. The continuation of your career has only been made possible by the morons who run the league!

  42. Terrell Owens was a victim of HOF voter prejudice.

    Trust me.

    Remember how worse Favre met his teams in 1999, 2000, 2004-06, 2008, and 2010 and what a bad teammate he was during his career?

    How come he, and Fran Tarkenton, can go in but not Owens?

    If people Google “Fran Tarkenton selfish,” they will find a st. Paul Pioneer press article that reads, “Fran Tarkenton’s Selfish Attitudes No Surprise to Acquaintances.”

    It took Tarkenton three tries, but there is no legend that keeps barking out his selfishness. Especially, for a quarterback that went 60-82-4 with his first two teams, including the first time with the Vikings. If he’s on the purple eater teams that went to a Super Bowl with Joe Kapp, what’s so great about him despite the stats?

    Then again, these are the same people that made Deion Sanders the longest discussion in the room in 2011. Yes, Deion is in but I wonder why great but pretty flawed players like Brett and Aikman had no writer stains.

    I wonder why flashy guys are treated like crap, but the media’s beer buddies can go in??

  43. It’s about what you do on Sunday and when TO was on field
    nobody played harder or produced at such a level.
    Even Brett had his share of drama: Retiring / Unretiring, holding GB hostage while he made up his mind. Sending photos that people don’t want to bring up / remember..
    It’s a shame that voting is agenda driven like a high school cafeteria.

  44. Why are we automatically assuming TO was a first ballot Hall of Famer? Not all players are and why is Marvin Harrison not worthy of the Hall of Fame?

    As a Patriots fan Marvin Harrison is Hall Worthy and a great selection. He is also one of the best ever and would have had more championships in his career if only he had a better quarterback.

  45. Completely belongs in the Hall of Fame. Without a doubt. Not even a question.

    Unfortunately he rubbed people the wrong way, and now they are getting even by making him sweat for a few years. But I don’t think he’ll be denied forever.

    If he is, then those who vote should be ashamed of themselves, and the process should change…. because it would be badly broken.

    A flamboyant personality shouldn’t block someone from the Hall of Fame.

    He was a knucklehead at times, and I absolute was glad someone laid him out when he did that celebration on the Dallas star at midfield (even if I hate the Cowboys), but stuff like that shouldn’t keep you from the Hall of Fame.

    We live in an era where we have the Hardy’s, the Manziel’s, the Rice’s… real scumbags. Those sorts of actions I can understand leaving someone off, but TO was just a harmless knucklehead, not a dangerous knucklehead.

    No system is perfect. Democracy might be the best way mankind has invented to make decisions, but it has holes in it. Like they say, Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner.

    In this instance you clearly see people using their votes to hate on him for being a knucklehead and disregarding his amazing stats and presence on many different teams, and it’s just not right. If you want to have a protest against TO, then you are seriously wasting your time. Lots of worse players to protest, or issues in general. Seems like it’s taking things a step too far.

  46. We’re just going to forget what Owens did to that franchise in San Francisco, before he tried to burn down Philly and Dallas? What he did to Garcia and his team was disgusting, and he was lucky to find a landing spot in Philly.

  47. Marvin Harrison in Hall of fame is ridiculous..You put him on any other team the guy would of been in the NFL for 4 years.. Harrison was Mannings only target… Jim Plunkett won 2 superbowls and he is not in the hall of fame! That’s crazy to me

  48. Funny! Not one single mention of the TRUE greatest receiver of all time – Steve Largent. He wasn’t the fastest, but he always got open; he wasn’t the flashiest, he always remained humble; he elevated the play of everyone around him by sacrificing fame for success. He realized all along that he played a TEAM sport and not a hollywood version of WWF. And he never, ever cheated! I suppose this is why he gets overlooked although he was enshrined in the NFL HOF in 1995; selected to the pro-bowl 7 times; and he retired as the leading receiver in NFL history in yards, receptions, and touchdowns without the use of the special “sticky” gloves and substances used by others.

  49. When it was determined DeBartalo was going to get in, the gadfly, TO, was out. DeBartalo owned the Niners for 24 years, he doesn’t need to share the stage with a headache.

    TO was a journeyman. If he spent 5 more seasons with SF he probably gets in.

    The real question is why did it take Ken Stabler 30 years to get into the HOF? Investigate that.

  50. Kudos on a very well written piece. I couldn’t agree more w everything in this writing. Furthermore, what a great way to dish very sound advice TO’s way for when he gets in before Moss. Yes, Owens career was stronger than Harrison’s and he did more for his teams than Moss ever did as well. Moss, however, also probably is more deserving than the deserving Harrison.

  51. John McVay was the 49ers’ GM for five super bowl victories. He ran a front office that won super bowls with two different coaches and two different QBs. The 49ers drafted so many HOFers and pro bowlers while he was in charge. They usually picked near the end of every round too. It wasn’t all about DeBartolo’s money because they had the lowest payroll in the league in 1981 when they won their first super bowl. It wasn’t all Joe Montana because Steve Young won too. It wasn’t all Walsh’s coaching because Seifert won two super bowls and had a much higher winning percentage than Walsh. McVay wasn’t a big self-promoter, so he’s easy to ignore, but he should be a lock for the HOF.

  52. The real question here should be why Raider coach Tom Flores is not in the HOF. Is it because he is a raider or that 2 super bowl wins don’t count? How can these panel of voters look at themselves in the mirror and justify why don’t vote deserving individuals into the hall. I don’t know whose worse the HOF voters or so called commissioner Goodell.

  53. Geez, pro football didn’t start in 1985, there are plenty of guys who were as good or better than Moss and Owens..

  54. Team chemistry is fundamental to success in football, TO was defiant towards every coach he ever had and a cancer in every locker room he was in. He has HOF numbers but deserves to wait because of his blatant disrespect for the game
    Also, its not like Harrison wasn’t deserving.

  55. Clubhouse cancer..same as Barry Bonds. This is payback from the sportswriters who had to deal with him. Karma.

  56. Im more upset with the fact that Dungy undeservingly got in. I can think of 4 coaches with better careers that should be in but arent. HOF has lost its luster.

  57. This is starting to get like the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, where you can pretty much get in if you wait long enough and you had a band.

  58. When’s the last time people outraged like this over someone not getting in?
    Never
    That’s because the voters botched this one and they know it. Letting someone in on character is a joke. Hey Dungy how about you be that good person that you are and hand your jacket to mister Owens. You know, the person that actually deserves to be in there. This whole thing just makes me sick to my stomach. “T.O. Didn’t make his teams better” really? Eagles getting to the Super Bowl and him killing the patriots with a broken leg? How about getting Dallas the number 1 seed with a weak defense? How many times has Dallas gotten the number 1 seed since? Oh yeah none. The dude was even putting up numbers when he went to cinci. He’s a savage. Take away the voting rights from these wussified writers.

  59. “Hall of Fame numbers” is an increasingly meaningless argument in the modern NFL, when so many teams and players have gonzo passing yards & touchdowns.

    Like it or not, players like TO are always going to be remembered for their caustic personalities.

    Yeah, he had a fantastic game in the Super Bowl. I bet we all thought “There’s the Super Bowl MVP” at some point. But remember, he threw McNabb under the bus after the loss.

    That’s TO in a nutshell. Great player, lousy teammate. Wanting to win doesn’t make you a winner.

    He should wait years for a call to the Hall, if he ever gets in.

  60. Guys are and have been being kept out of the Hall for far less.

    T.O. fully deserves and earned this humbling and he has nobody to blame but himself.

  61. I don’t see either Owens and maybe even Moss as HOF. Sure they put up great stats, but neither won or made their team better on a consistent basis. Most teams they played on got worse due to their me-first attitude and lost their team spirit . Jerry Rice won it all, put up stats and made his team better for a long time. Harrison the same thing. Another future HOF Larry Fitzgerald might be the biggest reason, one of the worst franchises in NFL history is now a contender. That is to me what should be in the HOF – not great athletes who are also arrogant brainless idiots.

  62. On the field….amazing, top 5 all-time. So he waits a year or two.

    Zimmerman and his prodigy King keep Sabler out. Writers are petulant vidictive bunch, who hold grudges.

  63. Whoever the person is on this thread that said Rice is the 4th WR shouldn’t be allowed to watch football. If Rice played his prime in today’s football where you can’t touch a WR his numbers would be even greater!

  64. Because character counts. At least to a degree described by Florio: he’ll get bypassed his first time or two as an eligible candidate and then get in, at which time he’ll have some over the top, melodramatic tear filled speech about over coming the odds, no one believing in him, etc and then clips of said speech will be aired ad nauseum on ESPN and NFLN with serious comments by serious commentators.

  65. joker65 says:
    Feb 7, 2016 10:25 AM
    The Broncos have been to 8 Super Bowls and have 4 HOF members, and this is article critiquing the 2016 class we get?! How about some sharp criticism of that BS

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    Lets break this down…..one SB was in 1977. Who from that team should have gone in the Hall? No one I can really remember.
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    Ever heard of Lyle Alzado?

  66. silverbackdk says:
    Feb 7, 2016 12:55 PM

    I don’t see either Owens and maybe even Moss as HOF. Sure they put up great stats, but neither won or made their team better on a consistent basis. Most teams they played on got worse due to their me-first attitude and lost their team spirit . Jerry Rice won it all, put up stats and made his team better for a long time. Harrison the same thing. Another future HOF Larry Fitzgerald might be the biggest reason, one of the worst franchises in NFL history is now a contender. That is to me what should be in the HOF – not great athletes who are also arrogant brainless idiots.
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    Just a little tidbit of information for you: Did you know that the 49ers went 18-1 the year before Rice joined their dynasty? That was Joe’s second super bowl win in three years as their starter (not counting 1982 the strike shortened season). The other year, 1983 was one of the biggest refereeing blunders in sports history at RFK stadium. So Rice joined a team that was by far the best team in the NFL. Do you also know that the 49ers didn’t win a single playoff game in any of Rice’s first three seasons? So you can say Rice was the greatest of all times, and put up big numbers, but I have to point out these facts if you’re saying he made the team better. Nothing could be further from the truth.

  67. The fact that Dungy got in ahead of Owens is proof anough that the system is jacked up beyond belief.

    Want more proof? Kenny Stabler should have been in years ago, but they waited until he passed away to finally come to their senses. Its disgusting, but not at all unexpected.

    With each passing year, things like this cause my level of enthusiasm for the NFL to drop a bit more. Its too big, powerful, and corrupt for its own good.

  68. He was a team cancer. You have to wonder a team would make a Super Bowl with him on it. I don’t care what he did on the field. It can’t offset what he did in the locker room.

  69. Better luck next year Owens. Maybe you should have been a better teammate. There’s a reason you played for a handful of different teams, you were an ahole everywhere you went.

  70. Owens is a dick. Moss is a dick. I can’t say that about Rice, but I have no problem saying it to the face of the other two. The HOF is a sham, as I wouldn’t have put Aikman or Irvin in, as I thought they were very good but not HOF players. JMHO, but I thought Dorsett was a better player than Emmitt.
    TO should be a HOF’er, but let him dangle in the wind for a bit to let him know he was a dick.

  71. Bill Polian is clearly biased. These guys don’t get paid for locker room contributions, it’s for their on field achievements. Why should it be any different for the HOF?

  72. T.O.’s paying for that star incident in Dallas. HOF voters consider that disrespectful to the game. Regardless of what Harrison has done, his actions weren’t detrimental to the game itself. To a HOF voter, it a lesser crime.

  73. Polian is a turd. Owens was a diva. Wow…shocker! He was still a dominant beast in his day and clearly one of the best to ever suit up. Dude came from nothing, hell, worse than nothing and had some issues along the way. Who cares! McNabb was a terrible team mate and Owens called him out for being the out of shape slob that he was. So Owens is the bad guy for working his ass off to get into the SB, played like an MVP, and thus wanted to get paid? Polian can go suck one. No one would know his name without Manning. The Colts were an average team with a great QB. If Polian could’ve built a defense they’d have been legendary. #fail

  74. Marvin had better numbers before he hurt his knee, T.O made up and past him . He is a better player

  75. Teams don’t get to “tear up contracts” they have to honor them. Players and teams negotiate more money now in exchange for the team being able to void it later. It’s called negotiations.

  76. If you really believe that Randy Moss did what he did without trying then you have to think he was the best ever.
    You also have to be an idiot.

  77. Marvin Harrison? Chile, pleeze. OchoUno (T.O.) is Top 3 for Most Receiving/Most TDs, what a receiver is supposed to do best. Keep your head up, OchoUno. If Cris Carter got in, then you know you’re in lol

  78. if tim brown, andre reed and marvin harrison had to wait….. then so does T.O…… no way TO gets in his first year

  79. T.O. made every team he was on better. He made a pro bowler out of Jeff Garcia, helped Romo become their franchise QB and helped the hapless Eagles reach the Super Bowl. His numbers are all HOF caliber and it’s a shame he’s not voted because the egotistic media don’t like him. Not to mention he brought entertainment value to the NFL. He deserves to be in the HOF just as much as anyone else who frog leaped him.

  80. joker65 says:

    He was better than Harrison, who got to play with Manning most of his career. Imagine if TO had that luxury.

    Hard to say because let’s face it: Owens had a tendency to be a quarterback killer. How long before he would have worn out his welcome in Indy? Just like everywhere else he played. Owens has to shoulder blame for not having the “luxury” of playing with one great quarterback for most of his career.

  81. The comment Moss can be accused of not giving full effort on the field begs the question, Accused?? Didn’t that nutjob say, Randy plays when Randy wants to play? Or wasn’t it incredibly obvious with the Vikings, Raiders especially, Pats, etc that Randy rarely blocked, didn’t run out plays when he wasn’t the primary WR target? Accused? Come on. Convicted.

  82. Because he was a punk and they wanted to teach him a lesson. He’ll get in but he’ll have to wait… on principal.

  83. He doesn’t deserve the HOF. It’s more than on field, it’s off the field, what kind of Teammate you are etc etc. He is NOT a Hall of fame.

  84. TO deserves to be in. Best receiver in Phila Eagle history. Top 5 in Dallas, Top 2 in San Fran. He is hated because he wears his heart on his sleeve and he is black.

  85. 1.Rice
    2. Hutson
    3. Every other HOF WR

    Owens will get in eventually even though he is not GOAT material.

    Moss will get in but no GOAT. Not even close.

  86. It’s amazing Polian gets paid to be an analyst because he has a bigger agenda for the players and coaches he worked with and against his rivals than anyone on TV. Owens was constantly associated with winning.

    In 2001 the 49ers went 12-4 and in 2002 10-6. From 2000-2002 Jeff Garcia had by far the best years of his career and people back then actually thought Steve Mariucci was a good coach.

    Everyone knows Owens was the only reason those Eagles teams ever got over the hump and past the NFC championship game.

    Lastly the Cowboys had winning records each of the three years Owens was there and went 13-3 in 2007.

  87. We see it every day out here and it’s West Coast bias. The East coast looks down on everything West Coast. Any time there is a vote involved it is more than obvious.

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