Rams’ pursuit of RGIII would make for a great story

AP

The one thing I root for when it comes to the NFL is a great story. And while the prospect of Magic Johnson pulling a rabbit from his hat by luring Peyton Manning to L.A. would generate plenty of interest, there’s another quarterback who’s migration to California would be nearly as compelling.

Four years ago, the Rams picked up three first-round picks and a second-round pick in exchange for the privilege of drafting quarterback Robert Griffin III. And the Rams repeatedly reminded Washington of the move, from selecting the players obtained through the trade as captains for a game against Griffin’s team to using the picks as a draft-room rallying cry.

“It made too much sense for us to go ahead and recognize the guys that probably wouldn’t be here had it not been for the trade,” Fisher said in December 2014, explaining his coin-toss emissaries following a game against Washington. “We want to do that before the game. It was a memory that will last them for a lifetime. It was a good idea. I’ve sent other people out for different reasons as well.”

Now that Griffin’s time in Washington is coming to an end (unless they want to pay him more than $16 million fully guaranteed for 2016), the prospect looms of the Rams completing the grift by signing Griffin.

Some will say Griffin is now irrelevant, especially after a season spent in bubble wrap, following a preseason game in which the Lions nearly burst him. But Washington coach Jay Gruden decided that Kirk Cousins fits the offense better than Griffin, and once that decision was made there was no reason to risk owing Griffin that $16 million salary for 2016, since last year it was guaranteed only for injury.

The Rams would need to put Griffin through the paces of a full-blown workout before signing him, to ensure he still can move and cut and throw. But it’s a low bar to surpass the skill sets of Nick Foles and Case Keenum, and if no one else is offering Griffin starter money, it could be easy to get Griffin.

Yes, the Cowboys may come calling for Griffin, offering him a chance to serve as Tony Romo’s understudy and to be groomed as his successor. But the financial package would reflect that status. So if Griffin wants to maximize his earnings and play now, why not be interested in playing in L.A.?

The mere fact that it would be the perfect bow on one of the worst trades since the Herschel Walker debacle makes it worth trying.

103 responses to “Rams’ pursuit of RGIII would make for a great story

  1. Why do we keep using the nickname RGIII for someone who isn’t a starter? Why not call him Robert Griffin?

  2. Here’s a better story: Aaron Rodgers. It’s nearing the time he gets “Favred” like Brett did.
    It’s no secret the California man likes being on the west coast. Living in Wisconsin isn’t quite so glamorous, especially for a woman friend named Olivia Munn who is a rising star. Aaron just turned 32, in the middle stages of a career. The Packers are clearly in decline and are in need of top-tier talent. In the 40’s and 50’s, the Rams QB’s were movie stars. Here you have a man already working in TV commercials.
    “But the Packers don’t have anyone behind him.”
    Wrong. They have a guy who could become a really good QB in Brett Hundley. They also could pick up one of the QB’s on the market this year as a fill-in.
    Why should the Packers give away Rodgers? They shouldn’t. A minimum of 2 number one’s and two number two’s to start with. Think Hershel Walker trade.
    The Packers get Rodgers salary off the salary cap and have more flexibility to rebuild. The Rams get the stud QB for a few more years to market around.

    Insane? Maybe. But how about in 5 years when Rodgers is old, they’ve traded away talent they’ve developed and are stuck with whatever they have on the market?

    But Ted Thompson will draft a bunch of whozits, a couple will become middling players, shun free agency, sit on a pile of money under the salary cap and go scout college players while the Packers keep losing.

  3. It doesn’t matter who the QB is, as long as the Rams are coached by Jeff Fisher they’ll be a mediocre 8-8 area team that plays well against really good teams and plays poorly against really bad teams, but takes a lot of undisciplined cheap penalties regardless of who they’re playing.

  4. The Rams and Fisher have shown they have no ability to groom QBs, otherwise they would have been able to do it with Foles, who showed real ability before, and Bradford before that. RGIII needs a talented coach to fix his problems, and that ain’t gonna happen with the current Rams staff.

  5. .
    Depending on his confidence level, Griffin may be better served signing a one year deal with a team like the Patriots or Packers where he could rejuvenate his career while having a real apprenticeship under Brady or Rogers.
    .

  6. Step 1: Google “rg3 tampa bay”…

    Step 2: Click the 1st link then read…

    He cannot play QB period

    How do you not complete a pass when your protection is perfect and all 5 of your options are wide open? Hooowwww does that happen?

  7. It really is a great match. Griffin’s threat to run would be good for Gurley and Austin.

    I think RG3 could do a lot worse than landing there.

  8. I’m sure this will be thumbed down by all the haters, but I’d like to see Griffin get a shot elsewhere. He was an exciting player and it almost feels like Shanny ruined his career. Hopefully he can get back on track elsewhere. If I were a Rams fan, there are definitely worse options out there. At worst, he’s better than Foles. At best, he has some serious upside.

  9. I think the jury is still out on RGlll. Shanny had no clue how to use him and then litter all played him until he couldn’t walk. Gruden never wanted him and couldn’t figure out how to get rid of him since Snyder wanted him. So he tried to get him hurt.

    Rams, Texas, 49ers, Browns, and any team with an aging qb should at least give him a workout.

  10. Agreed w/fosback:

    As long as we’re still pushing this narrative, will we also talk about, since the trade, which team has made trip*s* to the playoffs, whilst the other hasn’t once?

  11. “Lets see. After the RG3 trade – the Skins have won the NFC East TWICE and been to the playoffs.

    And the Rams? Enough said.”

    Funny thing is Rams have actually won more cumulative regular season games since then. The difference between the NFC East and West.

    Rams 27 wins since 2012
    Redskins 26 since 2012.

  12. But then again with Fisher as the coach, does it really matter one way or the other? Team will never be anything as long as he gets a continual pass on delivering wins.

  13. Hodag54501
    “The Packers get Rodgers salary off the salary cap and have more flexibility to rebuild.”

    Then says,
    “But Ted Thompson……will shun free agency, sit on a pile of money under the salary cap”

    If they are sitting on a pile of money, why do they need Rodgers off the salary cap?

  14. if im a rams fan im sayin noooooo to this. how in the world could you sign a untalented selfish baby like RG-ME. sorry but hes a lazy, unintelligent bum with poor work ethic and no grit and he doesnt even have the raw athletcism he used too

  15. I hope Griffin has success wherever he ends up. Shanahan drove him to major injury and Gruden really didn’t know how or didn’t want to adapt his scheme to Griffin’s strengths.

  16. The Hershel Walker trade doomed the Vikings for at least a decade. You can’t not win a Superbowl for 54 years running without making a couple of colossal mistakes. I mean, outside of hiring Spielman.

  17. “dwhcic says:
    Feb 14, 2016 1:19 PM
    How sad is it the rams got all those picks, yet they still suck. At least the redskins won their division this year.”

    I was gonna say, at least the Redskins have a playoff game and division title to show, though RGIII had little to do with it. Bodes poorly for the Rams front office, doesn’t it?

  18. Interesting to always see how the Rams fleeced the Skins and so forth. It’s easy to look back and say that it was a bad trade now but …

    since the RG3 draft Skins have won the division twice. Rams, never made the playoffs.

  19. fm31970 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 2:06 PM

    “dwhcic says:
    Feb 14, 2016 1:19 PM
    How sad is it the rams got all those picks, yet they still suck. At least the redskins won their division this year.”

    I was gonna say, at least the Redskins have a playoff game and division title to show, though RGIII had little to do with it. Bodes poorly for the Rams front office, doesn’t it?
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    Actually, RG3 pretty much had everything to do with us winning the division a few years ago. If he wasn’t injured he was on the way to having the Skins beat Seattle.

  20. Everyone makes fun of the Skins for trading everything but the kitchen sink for Bob Griffen, and it clearly hasn’t worked out. But what about the Rams? 3 #1’s and a #2 and what do you have to show for it? If anything, St Louis, err, LA should be the ones people are laughing at. You should be in the playoffs by now with the # of picks you stole from Washington.

    Fisher = worse coach in the league

  21. Everybody bringing up the fact that the redskins made the playoffs even after giving up the picks, who cares, you didn’t win a playoff game so obviously if you had those picks , you probably would’ve advanced further or is that too complicated to understand?

  22. I wish RGIII would go to the Eagles. He has the ability to become an elite franchise QB in the NFL. So thumbs down me all you want.

  23. eb 14, 2016 2:25 PM
    Everyone makes fun of the Skins for trading everything but the kitchen sink for Bob Griffen, and it clearly hasn’t worked out. But what about the Rams? 3 #1’s and a #2 and what do you have to show for it? If anything, St Louis, err, LA should be the ones people are laughing at. You should be in the playoffs by now with the # of picks you stole from Washington.

    ——————–

    His coaching record would indicate you are incorrect. What teams go anywhere without a qb? Redskins still messedup and are in a way easier division.

  24. >>”there’s another quarterback who’s migration to California would be nearly as compelling.”<who’swhose<, then hiring an editor may be in order.

  25. thefatlazygamer says:
    Feb 14, 2016 12:38 PM

    Never acquire a QB who is more concerned about his brand than the job he was hired to do.

    =====================================

    Ya mean like Cam Newton?

  26. How is it one of the worst trades? Rgiii won a division title and sold astronomical amounts of merch for the team. This is a business. And business wise, the redskins made out wayyyy better.

  27. RG3 had nothing to do with last years playoff team, but he certainly was a main cog in the first one since he was drafted.

    A playoff appearance helps recruit new guys to your team. So Bob getting the ball rolling on fan excitement and garnering interest from available players. This was a big thing after years of mediocrity.

    I give the edge to the skins on the trade due to 2 playoff appearances.

  28. Has there ever been a coach in history who was better at deflecting attention from his miserable W-L record AND lull the media into writing article after article calling him a genius?

    RGIII almost single handedly delivered a division title to the Redskin potatoes his rookie season. It’s the RPs that have had the superior record, the division titles, and arguably it’s the RPs who have their franchise QB in place (despite the fact that it’s not RGIII), while Fisher and the Rams continue to wallow in mediocrity with no clear QB of the future.

    So typical for people to praise Fisher for pulling off a trade that netted him a few mediocre players and had no effect whatsoever on the bottom line W-L performance of his team. And if RGIII does wind up there and is successful, everyone will call him a genius again when the reality is that if RGIII fit his system so well, they probably would have been better off drafting him 4 years ago.

    Nothing sticks to Teflon Jeff.

  29. Interesting to read a number of comments from people who clearly are not Redskins fans in regards to Griffin and his career to this point. One point is clear and undeniable, 1 year running an offense crafted by Shanahan, and his son, to fit Griffin’s skill set led to ROY and division title. The 3 years after that, where Griffin wanted to be a pocket passer, led to Griffin earning himself the #3 QB position behind Cousins and journeyman Colt McCoy.

    Also, because some have the memory of a gold fish, Griffin hurt his knee his 1st year scrambling out of the pocket on a pass play, not running the read/option. And instead of sliding when he saw the very large Haloti Ngata coming at him, Griffin dove for more yards and got destroyed. He didn’t protect himself. That wasn’t Shanahan’s fault, that was Griffin’s fault. After that, in the playoff game vs SEA, Griffin kept the state of his knee from Shanahan and Doctor’s (there is video proof) until his knee finally collapsed.

    So enough of blaming everyone but Griffin for the current state of Griffin’s career. Griffin is at this low point because of actions and decisions he has made, or forced to happen. Period.

  30. It still amazes me how people still say the Redskins gave up 3 1st round picks for RG3. If that was the case then what did they use to pick Griffin? They didn’t have 2 1st round picks that year. Even if you believe they gave up 3 then that would mean that the Rams gave them a 1st round pick back to the Redskins, hence 2 1st round picks were given up. The Rams do have a QB issue but with all those picks in addition to their own picks they didn’t convert those picks into many wins. Yes they play in a tough division but at some point you can’t keep using that as an excuse. They have more problems than just QB.

  31. armorgan67 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 4:04 PM
    It still amazes me how people still say the Redskins gave up 3 1st round picks
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    Does it really matter ? They still gave up picks that are mean’t to be immediate help. Look at how it affected the Skins ? You could have had 3 maybe 4 starters for your defense which sucks. Sure there are a few top flight players there but it’s a team game and the Skins aren’t all there yet.
    Yes they looked better the 2nd half of the year but you were in the weakest division of the NFL.
    It will go down as one of the worst trades of all time.

  32. It would make a great story. We made one of the worst trades in NFL history, yet still have made the playoffs twice since he’s been here and the Rams with all their draft picks and happenstance have made them how many? Oh that’s right…zero.

  33. Considering since the Griffin trade the Redskins made the playoffs twice and the Rams still haven’t despite all the extra picks. I’d say the Rams still come out looking like buffoons.

  34. As a Redskins fan, I hope he succeeds somewhere. The kid was amazing his first year. Tons of blame to go around including Robert, but the organization needs to take most of it because of the price they paid compounded with their mistakes.

  35. Wouldn’t really matter if they ended up picking him up. He gave us fans a great 2012 year and the Skins made it to the playoffs twice since the trade, whereas the Rams are dwelling in mediocrity.

  36. Jesus, for the last time, they didn’t pick up 3 first-round picks. They gained an additional two, and they switched spots in the first round of 2012. The Rams already had a first round pick that year. They just moved back. That means they picked up two picks

  37. You can’t judge the trade based on who made the playoffs. The Rams still don’t have a QB and they play in a real NFL division with Arizona and Seattle. The Redskins play in the worst division in the NFL.

    The Rams got a lot of players. The Redskins got a failed player that’s handicapped the franchise for years to come. How can anyone say that the Redskins got the better part of the deal?

  38. The Redskins gave up a lot but somehow pulled Kirk Cousins out of that draft as well which was definitely the more “questionable” pick at the time. Nobody thought his game would escalate to where it has I’m a Michigan State fan and didn’t see him coming.

  39. Rams are the last place RG3 needs to go. Fisher is horrible at getting along with quarterbacks. Ask Vince Young, plus the RAMS have underacheived. Houston would be the best place for him to go. Fisher would definitely finish the job on RG3 that Shanahan started.

  40. Anybody who’d give more than backup money for RGIII is nuts.

    If you think he can start give him a 4 year incentive laden contract with little garuanntteed that either side can void in 2.

    He gets to bet on himself and when is a bust again you can easily part ways.

  41. lingsun54 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 5:47 PM

    The Rams got a lot of players. The Redskins got a failed player that’s handicapped the franchise for years to come. How can anyone say that the Redskins got the better part of the deal?
    ===

    How are the Redskin Potatoes handicapped for years to come? RGIII comes completely off the books this year, they have their QB of the future in place, and they’re the defending NFC East champions.

    I can’t speak for the others, but my point wasn’t who won or lost the trade itself, I just objected to Teflon Jeff getting all of the credit for pulling off this great trade while everyone ignores the fact that it did absolutely nothing to make his team better.

  42. lingsun54 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 5:47 PM
    You can’t judge the trade based on who made the playoffs. The Rams still don’t have a QB and they play in a real NFL division with Arizona and Seattle. The Redskins play in the worst division in the NFL.

    The Rams got a lot of players. The Redskins got a failed player that’s handicapped the franchise for years to come. How can anyone say that the Redskins got the better part of the deal?
    =====

    The Redskins have won their division twice since the RGIII trade. The Rams are the only NFC West since the RGIII trade that hasn’t won their division, made the playoffs, or finished above 8-8.

    Jeff Fisher has coached 21 years and has finished above .500 six times. How this guy doesn’t get called out when Bruce Arians has turned around Cardinals of all teams boggles my mind. Does have incriminating photos of someone important?

  43. hodag54501 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 12:32 PM

    …Why should the Packers give away Rodgers? They shouldn’t. A minimum of 2 number one’s and two number two’s to start with….

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    Keep in mind that the Rams got 3 first round picks for an unproven RGIII. If you are talking Aaron Rodgers, you are going to have to start with a minimum of 6 first round picks

  44. “The Packers get Rodgers salary off the salary cap and have more flexibility to rebuild.”

    Then says,
    “But Ted Thompson……will shun free agency, sit on a pile of money under the salary cap”

    If they are sitting on a pile of money, why do they need Rodgers off the salary cap?

    To AGAIN, make the point, the Packers will need all the cap space they can find to rebuild. The $8 million plus Rodgers $20 million hit could buy some decent players. Not that Ted would. I’m just tossing out an idea outside of “Draft, Develop and Decline”.

  45. jimmybrock says:
    Feb 14, 2016 12:20 PM

    Why do we keep using the nickname RGIII for someone who isn’t a starter? Why not call him Robert Griffin?

    The III represents 3rd string, so we keep him as RGIII

  46. The Rams are my team. Please God no. Don’t sign this complete loser and bum to the Rams. He’s poison on the team, destroyed one set of coaches and almost killed another set before he was benched. Crazy idea.

  47. Cam made the correct decision.

    Had he tried to recover his fumble he might have gotten his uniform dirty. Can’t have that can we?

    Plus, he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to explain his behavior after the super bowl. “I didn’t want to get hurt”

    ———————
    abqhawk says:
    Feb 14, 2016 3:02 PM
    thefatlazygamer says:
    Feb 14, 2016 12:38 PM

    Never acquire a QB who is more concerned about his brand than the job he was hired to do.

    =====================================

    Ya mean like Cam Newton?

  48. How do you define a good trade or one that is a debacle? This trade was neither as both teams remain mediocre at best. While the Redskins did not get the frachise quarterback they hoped for, the fact is that they’ve had more success than the Rams since the trade. With the opportunity that the trade presented the Rams with– and their failure to fully capitalize on it with actual wins, signing RG3 hardly qualifies it as the perfect bow.

  49. greenbaychicksarefat says:
    Feb 14, 2016 2:25 PM

    Everyone makes fun of the Skins for trading everything but the kitchen sink for Bob Griffen, and it clearly hasn’t worked out. But what about the Rams? 3 #1’s and a #2 and what do you have to show for it? If anything, St Louis, err, LA should be the ones people are laughing at. You should be in the playoffs by now with the # of picks you stole from Washington.

    Fisher = worse coach in the league
    ————————————

    Draft picks mean very little.

    The Browns draft early all of the time, and are perennial losers, while the Patriots pick late all of the time, and have even had a few draft picks stolen from them, and they are perennial contenders.

    Fisher is an 8-8 coach, and no amount of high draft picks are going to change that.

  50. @armorgan67

    Math is quite simple in this case. Year of the draft, the Rams didn’t just give away their first round pick, did they? Pretty sure it cost the Skins their own first rounder. That’s 1. 2 subsequent first round picks added to the “1” brings the total to three. Why does anyone struggle with this concept?

  51. Hey those Division Titles all you Redskins fans keep hanging your hat on, well your team still sucks. In the worst division no less. Yey, you’re so awesome! As pointed out by another post: ‘Skins 26 wins Rams 27. Your QB is a bust and y’all are just butthurt about it.

  52. Shanahan was garbage way before RG3 got there. He always took issue with certain players. Every year, it was a different one. One that didnt look like him. Just took time to see the writing on the wall. Glad that lame duck is gone. How are you going to keep an injury un-noticed when a licensed doctor examined it. And you are wearing knee brace in a game you shouldnt have been in in the first place?

  53. The Great Gimmick is the biggest draft bust in history.

    You could protect this clown with the Great Wall of China and he’d still be sacked over 40 times in the season.

    He cannot read a defense. Never could.

    He won’t improve. He hasn’t improved since he took the thumb out of his mouth in childhood.

    He can’t lead. He is a tree on the field.

    He won’t prepare. He is in fact the least prepared person on the team.

    He is blind. Obvious pass rushes that even your mother can see are invisible to him.

    Fragile. Two glass legs and a lead brain. No wonder he falls down so much.

    Elusive? After his rookie season a tank can maneuver more easily than he can.

    Stupid. Has yet to master the concept of getting out of bounds or sliding to give himself up to avoid hits.

    Deep passing blunders. Unless a wide receiver is open by 10 yards, he can’t complete a pass downfield.

    Effective passing range: under 12 yards max.

    Most likely to throw a negative four yard pass than to complete a 10 yard pass.

    Two Minute Efficiency. If he has six minutes he can make it to the two minute warning and gain 20 yards.

  54. Here we are 4 years later and the Skins have their QB of the future and they have won 2 division titles since. I love the excuse (in a whiny voice) “our division is too tough”. Please. With all those picks, the Rams were poised to join the other teams in the division but yet it didn’t happen. Before you use the “our division is tough” excuse, I could buy it if every one of those picks turned out to be All-Pro and they still didn’t make the playoffs. I don’t think that happened. The Division’s too tough is a BS excuse.

  55. Don’t be salty, and let’s stop with the terrible division talk. The only reason the nfc west is better now is because the whole division was picking in the top ten for 20 years straight. It’s called parity, it’s how the league works. And if I recall, didn’t the vastly superior Rams get dominated by the redskins this year? The same game that Donald got ate by a rookie scherff. But hey don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story!

  56. Best of luck to Rg3 wherever he lands. Stories of redemption are always good. Hes never been a criminal, which some organizations seem to favor, has always been great in working with the kids in the D.C area, took his lumps being relegated to 3rd string like a man so I hope he does well even if he doesn’t cut it in the NFL. There are a lot of bad actors in the NFL. You could do worse than giving a 100% healthy RG3 a fresh start somewhere else.

  57. These new LA players all better have top notch agents, the LA market is excited about the return and the off field opportunities are available just because they will be living in LA.

    The Shannys tailored that rookie season offense to Bob’s skill set to help the transition to the league. Roberts ego might be telling him he is ready to be the starter but going to be a backup and learning more might be the best long term decision for his career.

  58. whatdidn’thappen

    Inaccurate statement again. The Vikings weren’t doomed for a decade after the HW trade. They had the best team in the NFL in 1998.

  59. Please explain how this was a horrible trade. The Redskins won the division with RG3. Which, relative to the rest of the Snyder years, was akin to going to the Super Bowl. The Rams haven’t even reached .500 and the guys they drafted are mediocre. CMON MAN.

  60. It’s tough – as a Skins fan – to want to see Griffin succeed. I don’t care where he goes, as long as it’s out of the NFC East.

    Griffin & the organization shared success & failure. In 2012, Griffin & the players around him, executed well. In 2012, the coaching staff installed an offense & called plays that created success. In 2013 & 2014, the opposite occurred. In 2015, Griffin was a non-factor & the Skins succeeded w/out him.

    It’s time for the Skins to move on.

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