Broncos, 49ers, Kaepernick need to figure out how to resolve salary issue

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Regardless of whether the Broncos and 49ers have an agreement of something close to it regarding what it could take to get quarterback Colin Kaepernick (there are differences of opinion on that point), one thing seems clear: The Broncos and Kaepernick need to work out how much he’ll make before the Broncos and 49ers can resolve their business, whether that business is already resolved or whether additional work needs to be done to finalize the draft-pick compensation.

The issue of trade compensation has become a distant second to the question of whether and to what extent Kaepernick will reduce his $11.9 million salary for 2016, which became fully guaranteed as of April 1. Kaepernick also is due to make up to $2 million in per-game roster bonuses and a $400,000 workout bonus.

As to 2016, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Broncos are willing to pay Kaepernick $7 million. The Broncos and Kaepernick want the 49ers to pay the balance of $4.9 million. But the 49ers haven’t been willing to pay any of the money because they think they shouldn’t have to pay anything for a player they want to keep.

This, of course, assumes they want to keep him. Many believe the 49ers are saying just enough to create the superficial impression that they want him, but that the door has been left open for a trade. If they truly wanted him, the 49ers would be saying what the Vikings said last year about running back Adrian Peterson, when he was agitating for a trade: “He’s not being traded; he’ll play for us or for no one this year.”

The 49ers easily could take that position, especially since they control Kaepernick for the next five years under the notoriously team-friendly contract he signed in 2014. But the problem is that, if the would-be starting quarterback doesn’t want to be there, it’s difficult for the team to thrive since the starting quarterback must be all in for a team to succeed. He’s a coach on the field, setting an example for the rest of the roster by showing up early, staying late, studying film, and doing all the other things that a quarterback does to inspire his teammates to do all the things they need to do.

So the situation has become awkward and untenable, fueled by well-timed leaks that make a trade seem inevitable. But if Kaepernick wants out that badly, he should be willing to take less. And if the Broncos want Kaepernick that badly, they should be able to work out a deal with the quarterback that has him take less money in 2016 in exchange for something on the back end, whether it’s a new incentive package or the elimination of three or four years of the contract, giving Kaepernick a path to free agency while he’s still only 29 or 30.

That’s the key for getting this done, if the 49ers refuse to pay for the privilege for unloading Kaepernick. And it’s a reasonable position for Kaepernick to take. If the Broncos don’t want his contract as written, then the two sides should negotiate a new contract from scratch. For Kaepernick, one year and $7 million to be the starter for the defending champion could be a lot more valuable than five years and whatever real money and fluff remains from the deal he signed two years ago.

Because that outcome makes the most sense under these circumstances, it’s likely to never happen.

112 responses to “Broncos, 49ers, Kaepernick need to figure out how to resolve salary issue

  1. Combined Forbes value of the Niners and Broncos is 4.64 Billion but let’s squeeze a guy who puts his heart, soul, and body on the line out of his currently negotiated contract. Sounds reasonable.

  2. If I was Kap I would not take a dime less than my current contract. If the Bronco’s want him then pay him. He’s making less than what Peyton was and they saved a ton of money by not signing all those players that bolted through free agency. Bronco’s being cheap.

  3. $11.9 million for a presumed starting QB is nothing in today’s NFL. In fact it’s below average for a starting QB on a non rookie deal. Kaep should not take a dime less. Especially since his contract is the most team friendly contract I’ve ever seen.

  4. You’d think he’d be dying to go to the Broncos. He’s trading future money for keeping that 11mil now. He’s not betting on himself.

    Broncos are NOT being cheap trying to lower the salary of a mediocre QB.

  5. …..although I’m not a Kap fan he should stand his ground. Thats a huge dropoff in pay…the 49ers were dumb to sign the contract…live with it. If you dont want him on your team and don’t want to pay the difference, just cut him.

  6. Sackorpick needs to stick to his guns and not cave in to the donkeys or whiners. He should collect his money and sit if they don’t play him. That’s good money to hold a clipboard. Probably his last shot at that type of money considering he can’t make his second and third reads…….

  7. John Elway to Kaepernick in a private conversation “this is how much money you make and this is how you make money that does not show up on the salary cap”.

  8. Somehow a 15.9 mill cap hit next year is a “team friendly” contract for the niners. The niners should pay every penny of it since they were dumb enough to not cut him last week.

  9. Just get it done. Kap needs to move on.
    His lack of awareness in the pocket, and subsequent picks and wild inaccuracy, won’t be missed.
    Bottomline in SF: when they put more responsibility and weight on his shoulders to carry the offense (sans Frank Gore, Iupati, Vernon and a tough defense) he couldn’t pay the freight.
    Denver’s a good spot. He won’t be asked to be The Guy.

  10. The Broncos aren’t being cheap. There’s a salary cap. They want to save money on the QB position so they can pay the defensive players that deserve it.

  11. If he is worth $12 million + incentives this year to the ‘niners, then that is where his compensation lies. All he has to do is show up to work and that’s what he makes.

    How is it the Broncos were willing to pay Oswieler $15 million a year but now they only have $7 million? If you want him, you want him. If not, don’t low ball the kid.

  12. If I was Kaep, I would stare Elway dead in his crooked horse eyes, and ask him if he wants Dirty Sanchez QB’ing his team all next year….

    Ok then, $12 M it is

  13. This ought to be good, Colin SackorPick and Dirty Sanchez battling for the starting job. I think this about as bad as Anthony Dilweg and Blair Keil.

  14. He went to 3 straight Championship games and a SB.
    They offered Osweiler as much as $16M.

    I hope he tells them to suck it.

  15. Maybe don’t go after him if you won’t/can’t pay what he’s comtracted for? Just a thought.

  16. It’s a business,remember? You are talking millions not peanuts.These things take time, lots of cat and mouse and chicken. Just wait and see who blinks first. When this deal gets done the rest of the dominos will fall.

  17. Congrats on winning the Super Bowl. However, at some point, John Elway may learn that other teams and players will not always bend over backwards and accept a lot less, just to accommodate his needs. Cough Brock Osweiler, cough CJ Anderson, cough Danny Trevathan, cough San Francisco, cough Colin Kaepernick.
    Elway has shown mastery of the low-ball offer this offseason (but he did succeed in trading for the Butt-fumble). Maybe a lifetime of dismissive arrogance and treating others as idiots isn’t always an asset in matters of negotiation.

  18. Thanks Captain Obvious (Florio). If there’s one thing you are great at, it’s beating a dead horse.

  19. They are obviously at least slightly interested in moving him. Kaepernick could have even met with the Broncos much less negotiated with them if the 49ers didn’t give them permission.

    So the idea that they want to keep him so badly is clearly disingenuous. All they had to do was say no to the Broncos.

  20. Soooo, leave niners and money because you don’t think you will start there. Take pay cut in Denver because you think you will start there?
    Sanchez will finish out season starting in Denver with kap pouting on sideline .

  21. … the 49ers would be saying what the Vikings said last year about running back Adrian Peterson, when he was agitating for a trade: “He’s not being traded; he’ll play for us or for no one this year.”

    But you said the Vikings were only saying that to increase APs trade value. You’d claim the same thing if the 9ers said it.

  22. folkcrusader says:
    Apr 3, 2016 10:32 AM
    If he is worth $12 million + incentives this year to the ‘niners, then that is where his compensation lies. All he has to do is show up to work and that’s what he makes.

    How is it the Broncos were willing to pay Oswieler $15 million a year but now they only have $7 million? If you want him, you want him. If not, don’t low ball the kid.
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    Using the money they didn’t blow on Osweiler, Denver re-signed CJ Anderson and Jordan Norwood, and grabbed Sanchez, Okung, and Stephenson in free agency. Completely worth letting Osweiler go regardless of whether they sign Kaepernick, but it means they have less money to pay Kaep than they did Osweiler.

  23. Hard to believe there’s any interest whatsoever in this inked-up chucklehead. As a former qb, one would think Elway should know better. Perhaps CTE is beginning to cloud his judgement…

  24. $14.3 million with $11.9 guaranteed and they want him to take $7 million? Good luck with that.

    49ers Train Wreck

  25. It is called business for a reason. I have no problem with Kaep wanting his contract amount, or even a raise. Similarly, I have no problem with the Broncos, possibly, wanting him cheap. He is currently “damaged” goods due to the off season surgeries. There is no guarantee that he will heal back to his previous form.
    I am, personally, in favor of lower guaranteed money contracts with the bulk of the compensation based upon performance clauses. Pay him $5-7 million with clauses to unlock another $10 million based on performance. That would place him in the position to bet on himself and possibly be in the top half of qb compensation.

  26. Of course, this could really be a situation where Elway is tricking Baalke into giving up Kap for a lower-round pick:

    “Okay we will pay him the entire salary if you take a 5th rounder instead of a 3rd.”

  27. Niners should keep him, try to make it work, revitalize his career hopefully in Chip’s offense and be happy their starter is only under $12m….. and make an example of how to manage problems….

    BTW- please draft a QB as top 2 are amazing and could be the future….. Especially if Kap doesn’t work out. If he does, what a trade value he can create for the future….

    Why give Denver a chance to be that good again?? Especially after making so many mistakes this offseason.

  28. This is like something out of theater of the absurd. Kaepernick has a “notoriously team-friendly contract” but it isn’t friendly enough for the Broncosn’ who apparently aren’t offering any more than a mid round pick. The Niners have to pay some of it in order to move him to Denver but have no real incentive to do so, they’ve got the room to keep him after all and by the time camp starts it may well be a seller’s market. There might be a concern about his motivation if they keep him yet he didn’t exactly shine this past year and if he wants to have a hand in where he lands he needs to show himself to good advantage or take less with a chance to make it up in incentives. And all this for a QB that was 35th in accuracy percentage, folded under pressure and is coming off injury.

    I get the idea that Kubiak THINKS he may do well in the pistol and the Broncos risk would be acceptable at the right price but it just makes little to no sense from a Niners perspective to pay some of the contract to get rid of a guy that plays the games premier position in return for very little

  29. No reason I can see why he takes less money. Big deal, he plays for a bad team but still makes his contract but incentives 14!mil? Nope, he is not taking less. It’s not the trade value it’s the compensation due holding this deal up.

  30. patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Apr 3, 2016 10:25 AM
    Salary cap?
    -We don’t need no stinkin’ salary cap.
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    Inflated footballs? Cell phones?
    We don’t need no stinkin’ inflated footballs or cell phones..

    I’m sure the Pats were secretly videotaping Elway & Kaep’s conversations too.

  31. pamperpro says:
    Apr 3, 2016 10:23 AM
    Sackorpick needs to stick to his guns and not cave in to the donkeys or whiners. He should collect his money and sit if they don’t play him. That’s good money to hold a clipboard. Probably his last shot at that type of money considering he can’t make his second and third reads…….
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    Sackorpick? LOL!!! That’s awesome… Nice work.

  32. Does he want out?.take a pay cut..Does he want in?.stay in san fran and play for a guy who made nick foles a pro bowl qb

  33. loserslovetobringupcapgate says:
    Apr 3, 2016 11:21 AM
    patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Apr 3, 2016 10:25 AM
    Salary cap?
    -We don’t need no stinkin’ salary cap.
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    Inflated footballs? Cell phones?
    We don’t need no stinkin’ inflated footballs or cell phones..

    I’m sure the Pats were secretly videotaping Elway & Kaep’s conversations too

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    (a) science. I know it is a hard concept to grasp.

    (b) Wells said, many times, the cell phone was not needed.

    It is easier to fool people than to convince people they have been fooled.

  34. It seems neither team believes he he is the answer at QB. 49ers don’t want him and the Broncos aren’t sure he will win the job over Sanchez. Kap is stuck in the middle but he has leverage in his guaranteed salary. If he moves, it will probably take a reduced salary with a shorter contract like the article says. No other way makes any sense for all 3 involved.

  35. Later today on ColinKaepernickTalk.com we:
    1. Discuss Colin’s salary
    2. Talk to scouts about Kaepernick’s upside
    3. Project how teams that DON’T have a Kaepernick are supposed to be competitive
    4. Post a source that confirms there may or may not be a trade in place for Kaepernick
    5. Wonder aloud why the Browns chose RGIII over Kaepernick in these crazy Kaepernick times we’re all living in

    And so much more Colon Kaepernick – so bookmark ColinKaepernickTalk.com to stay up to date on our favorite mediocre QB!!

  36. Love the fickle posting football fans in America….Okung is raked over the coals for reping himself and giving the Broncos a huge break in his contract, now Kap is being bashed for not taking less to play for a winner?? When can a player ever be praised for standing his ground?

  37. OK Vote time. I am posting this question on a link that is not connected in content intentionally with the hope of getting the most impartial voters possible. (Imagine if I posted on a Cowboy or Skins link!–Not much point.)

    Would the Cowboys trade Romo right now for Kirk Cousins even up?

    Thumbs up– Yes
    Thumbs down No

    THANKS!

  38. @stealthjunk

    It’s not the 49ers fault the Broncos have no salary cap space that’s just the price you pay after you win a SB. Just release Clady and problem solved

  39. I say play tough 49ers. If he stays you find out if he has anything left under a coach/style that is favorable. If he can’t beat out Blaine Gabbert, some team is likely to need a QB at some point in the season and you can trade him them. No way you set a precedent that a player wants out of town and so you pay part of his salary to play elsewhere. Not gonna do it.

  40. Can’t afford to pay a cheap starting qb salary. All of your money is wrapped up in the defense. You won’t be the defending champs for long. Even Fitz won’t take 7 mill to start. That’s why all the Broncos could bring in in Sanchez.

  41. If I were Kaepernick, I wouldn’t take one dime less than what they were willing to pay Brock Osweiler! He actually led his team to a Super Bowl recently. Played in the game and was one Crabtree drop in the final seconds from winning it. Were I he I would consider any demand fro me to reduce salary on an already flawed contract an insult. Especially considering what Denver paid Peyton Manning last year for basically just handing the ball off and throwing interceptions.

  42. notmrknowitall says:
    Apr 3, 2016 10:59 AM
    Thanks Captain Obvious (Florio). If there’s one thing you are great at, it’s beating a dead horse.

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    50 comments including you.
    I would say this was a timely and relevant article.
    So much for self awareness.

    Captain Oblivious has a nice ring to it.

  43. I would like one person here explain to their family why they moved to a different company with the same job and took a massive pay cut.

  44. If Kaepernick is smart he won’t take a penny in pay cuts. If he goes to the Broncos and doesn’t perform his NFL career might be over. He should take every dollar he can get his hands on before that happens.

  45. Given that his “notoriously team friendly” contract is essentially a year-to-year deal at, may I add, WELL below market value for an established starting QB, it’s hard to see that THAT is the problem.

    As to returning from his surgeries the same player as one poster alluded to, the surgeries were on like his non-throwing shoulder, ear lobe, and a mole on his butt… kidding (except the shoulder) but they were not career threatening surgeries for a QB in any way. Actually it was smart of Kap to get them all over with at once and probably enhances his value. He’s the used car with new brakes, tires, and battery….

  46. Elway asking a player to take a pay cut? Noooo. See Peyton Manning, Ryan Clady, Demarcus Ware, and in about a year he will come calling to C.J Anderson asking him to take a cut as well. Enjoy that nice contract while you can C.J. Don’t worry though, you will be offered some “incentives”.

  47. Why would SF pay anyone to take a QB off their hands that isn’t hurting the salary cap? Seems to me Denver needs to pay up or shut up! Winning a SB doesn’t give you any special treatment with other teams! If you need a QB, pay him what he’s worth! Offering him less than they offered a non proven Osweiler is a joke! Good luck with the butt fumbler and a 3rd place in your division next season, you can’t cheat the cap anymore

  48. mongo3401 says:
    Apr 3, 2016 12:04 PM
    I would like one person here explain to their family why they moved to a different company with the same job and took a massive pay cut.
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    Well, I won’t try to explain it to my family, but I will try to explain why it isn’t ridiculous for Kaep to consider taking less money this year.

    If he insists on staying in SF to get his $11.9M, he is at the whim of Crazy Chip. Either he wins the starting job and gets chewed up by Kelly’s ridiculous offense, or worse, he loses the starting job to Gabbert. And next year he is on the free agent market begging for the veteran’s minimum.

    On the other hand, if he gives up a little less than $5M this year,
    He can be the guaranteed starter on the defending Super Bowl champion, surrounded by better weapons, better coaching and just a much better situation all the way around.

    If he can return to even 75% of his previous form, he hits the free agent market looking for at LEAST what Osweiler got this year.

    Many people in their careers take less in the short term to cash in in the long term. It’s really not that ridiculous a proposition.

  49. why should the 49er’s pay a guy who does not want to play for them? he wants traded then he plays for what the broncos are offering or he shuts up and plays for 49er’s. there is no guarantee the broncos will be as good as they were last season so why would he take less to play for them? the 49er;s may suck but he will still get his money so why would he want to take a pay cut?

  50. People can hate all they want,if the Broncos Land Kap watch the Broncos vault into a perennial super bowl favorite,the last time I checked when kap had a good defense and a good O-line and running game he was beasting,well Denver has a good D they lost a few players but if the offense even gets a little better it should balance out the overall team,plus all he has to do is run to extent a few drives kubiak is a master at managing games and minimizing his teams weaknesses lets go Broncos get it done Elway!!!

  51. At the beginning of FA Kaep contract was bad. Now Fitzpatrick, Griffin, and Oswieler all are in line for stupid money… as backup talent with upside. Kaep in the current market is fine in his current contract.

  52. “to what extent Kaepernick will reduce his $11.9 million salary for 2016, which became fully guaranteed as of April 1.” – if I’m Kaepernick I won’t take any pay cut at all. If this contract is supposed to be so “team friendly” over the next five years, why would he? Why should a player leave money on the table. Maybe he’ll like The Chipster’s offense of “organized stop watch chaos”.

  53. Since when has the salary cap ever concerned the Broncos??!!
    They will just ignore it like they did in the past & call it an accounting error….
    Most illegitimate titles in the NFL
    But don’t worry the league will just bury it like the HGH story on Their Poster Boy…..

  54. Teams always pay portions of contracts to help facilitate trades,it just don’t be 4-5 million it’s usually a million or so they’ll meet in between somewhere and it’ll be done before the week is up so get used to seeing Kap in Orange and Blue and giving teams defense nightmares you have to gameplan for him he’ll open up run and passing lanes just from his threat of running.

  55. Lots of idiocy going on from ALL sides if the goal is to win championships. It may not be.

    Kaepernick sucks, and his next starting gig very well could be his last. His best shot to succeed is being on a great team. As of right now, he IS NOT a STARTER in this league. He’s getting paid 11.9 million because the 49ers didn’t cut him. Other then for trade purposes, was a dumb move. He does not fit Chip Kelly’s offense. He doesn’t. Just because you can run fast, doesn’t mean you are a good fit. The main point in that offense is…. MAKING READS. You know like… making progressions for a drop back QB. Very similar. Plus his body is starting to break down from the punishment he’s taken.

    If you think that him or Sanchez will be any better then a broken down Manning, you’re sniffing glue. He can and will be slower mentally by far. He can and will be more inaccurate because of that. I’m sure Kaep can throw to a spot. His problem is while routes are being run and a defense is coming after him and he has to have that timing down with the 2nd, 3rd, 4th option. He doesn’t, that’s why he is so terrible. Many bad QB’s are like this.

    It’s not that he’s inaccurate, it’s that when he’s making a decision to throw to someone, he’s throwing to spots ahead or behind them. Or he just air mails it. It’s timing. That’s a mental screwup. Give him one choice and set the play up to get that guy open, he can hit it. But put all these moving parts of an offense around him and ask him to diagnose the defense, make the right read and connect on the throw… that’s where he really sucks.

    So for Kaepernick to be playing hardball and not want to give up basically a third of his money this year to go from a horrible team to defending champion AND the only shot he has in the league to become and stay a starter, is complete and utter idiocy from Kaepernick. Does he want to be an NFL starter? Does he want to be in the NFL? Broncos are his best shot, and probably his only shot. Even then I doubt it. He was gifted this situation, and he’s screwing it up.

    What a moron.

    John Elway is a moron. He was put in a tough spot, but there were better QB’s out there. Still are. Yet he chose Butt Fumble and now wants to trade for Kraep. Talk about a fecal situation.

    There is no way in hell he should be going after Kaepernick. Fitzpatrick is available. Josh McCown could probably be pried away. Hell even Brian Hoyer can be had. All three are better then Kaepernick. Why they want to trade for a mental headcase who can’t process information and whose body is built off athleticism but just had three total surgeries (one on his knee) is ludicrous.

    So they are going after a guy who isn’t even a starting NFL QB material. Elway also said he wanted guys that wanted to be here. So Elway is offering to take a horrible QB, on a horrible team, who isn’t even a starter on that horrible team… and wants to bring him to the defending champion. Almost guaranteed to bust out in Denver. This guy is playing hardball against Elway? Yet Elway still wants him? Elway is willing to cut other guys who actually can help the Broncos in order to bring this guy on?

    What a moron.

    Then you have the 49ers. They suck. They are run horribly. Kaepernick is a dead weight to them. But they are pretending they still want him. They are pretending that they are fine with keeping him. I’m sure they are, they need to hit that minimum salary floor.

    But aside from such technicalities, the 49ers performance on the field was greatly hampered when he was out there. He doesn’t fit Kelly’s system. He would either be ran into the ground, or make mistakes in his reads and throw picks. Likely both. You have to make quick reads with Kelly’s offense. I don’t think he can. All evidence throughout his career shows he hasn’t been able to yet.

    So the 49ers luckily have someone willing to take this guy on and actually give back some compensation to a guy they are ultimately going to cut. Rather then have to deal with that next year, they should just get it out of the way this year. Here is a team willing to trade for him, yet they don’t want to help eat about 5 million dollars? Are they interested in winning?

    Seriously the fact that between the 49ers and Kaepernick, this trade helps BOTH immensely… neither one wants to give up 5 million dollars to make it happen, or share the cost, is ludicrous.

    It’s like a bum turning down a hundred dollar bill because you aren’t giving him a thousand dollars. The 49ers and Kaepernick, whether they recognize it or not, are in a desperate situation football wise. They should thank their lucky stars there is a moron out there willing to take on Kraepernick the Krappy QB. There won’t be many, if any other offers. After this it’s sink or swim on the 49ers, and he sure won’t swim. Then an offseason cut.

    John Elway is willing to buy a $500,000 beat up Pinto. Yet the sellers are screwing that offer up.

    The only reason Kaepernick shouldn’t take a cut, is because HE KNOWS HE SUCKS, and will never live up to that contract, or any contract. He indeed might have the mentality that he’s done, and just to hold on and go through the motions as long as possible to collect the most possible. It’s possible. He was destroyed mentally last year. But I don’t know if that’s the case. It would be hard for even John Elway to not realize such a situation in a meeting with Kaepernick.

    The whole situation from all sides just doesn’t make sense.

    If this collapses I will laugh at the 49ers and Kaepernick for losing out on a great deal for both.

    If it doesn’t, I will laugh at Elway for bringing on an absolute horrible QB when there were QB’s that aren’t anywhere near elite or even very good, but they all were several notches better then Kaepernick.

    What a situation.

  56. 49ers are playing his as if they want a pair of 2nd round draft choices.

    Broncos are playing this as if they want Brady performance at Ponder prices.

    Get the deal done, I want to watch this kid getting ragdolled and tossing pick sixes twice a year.

  57. I would like one person here explain to their family why they moved to a different company with the same job and took a massive pay cut.
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    job growth, career success, huge incentives (see P. Manning); healthy relationship with management…………………………..should I continue? You may go now!

  58. Man, people still salty Broncos are champs. You’d think you’d all be adjusting at this point 😂
    __________________________________

    Haters hate success. Why, it is something they will never sniff. Sad, but that’s the way it is.

  59. Everybody stop! Now watch every move John Elway makes and you’ll be a lot smarter. Every GM around the league should be watching and learning from this guru. If not, they’ll be sitting and watching from their couch on super bowl Sunday. The sooner you realize this, the better off you’ll be.

  60. Trade a Good Player from Denver that’s making a lot of money to clear cap room for Kaep. 9ers with almost 60 million in cap space can afford it. 9ers become better, Denver makes room for Kaep and both teams are happy 🙂

  61. chiwizlive says:Apr 3, 2016 12:36 PM

    People can hate all they want,if the Broncos Land Kap watch the Broncos vault into a perennial super bowl favorite,the last time I checked when kap had a good defense and a good O-line and running game he was beasting,well Denver has a good D they lost a few players but if the offense even gets a little better it should balance out the overall team,plus all he has to do is run to extent a few drives kubiak is a master at managing games and minimizing his teams weaknesses lets go Broncos get it done Elway!
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    That’s ridulous. If he was any good the 49ers would try to keep him. He’s regressed and is now a project .

  62. There’s no reason to trade him until they get the guy they want in the draft. Period. They have the cap space and right now they are gaurenteed to have a quality back up.

  63. @ lukedunphysscienceproject who said:
    “Many people in their careers take less in the short term to cash in in the long term. It’s really not that ridiculous a proposition.”

    Actually it is. In the NFL there is no such thing as long term for player with such short career spans. Especially when, as a mobile QB (or even stationary pcket one for that matter), he is only one unlucky hit from calling it a career. As the original poster said: Try telling that one to your wife and kids, while you just walk away from guaranteed millions already in hand! Long term guarantees are only for owners and commissioners.

  64. dejc421 says:
    Apr 3, 2016 1:35 PM
    chiwizlive says:Apr 3, 2016 12:36 PM

    People can hate all they want,if the Broncos Land Kap watch the Broncos vault into a perennial super bowl favorite,the last time I checked when kap had a good defense and a good O-line and running game he was beasting,well Denver has a good D they lost a few players but if the offense even gets a little better it should balance out the overall team,plus all he has to do is run to extent a few drives kubiak is a master at managing games and minimizing his teams weaknesses lets go Broncos get it done Elway!
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  65. Yea your comment about it being ,ridiculous is ridiculous,I assume that’s what you meant,first of all its Kap that wants out not the 49ers why keep a player that don’t want to be around,another teams trash is another teams treasure,we see players revitalize there careers with a new team all the time this is the NFL and Kap has shown you he can succeed in this league so I don’t think it’s a bad idea to give it a shot if Elway believes it could work why should anyone doubt him with the success he’s had as a GM.

  66. They figured out how to cheat the salary cap before, this time shouldn’t be any different.

  67. @dejc41 who says”
    “That’s ridulous. If he was any good the 49ers would try to keep him. He’s regressed and is now a project .”

    Are you kidding me! Your comment is ridiculous. Have you already forgoteen what really happened here? That team fired his Super Bowl coach and mentor. WHile the entire team retired, quit, or was suspended, lost to a massive wave of injuries, and was traded around him. Then Balke and York cheap out on him in contract negotiations, while asking him to be a one man savior for a reconstructed last place ball club and awful new coach! Kaepernick didn’t regress one inch! He lost all desire and got hurt. The team regressed massively! And turned to a guaranteed loser in Gabbert. Who proceeded to do what he has done best his entire NFL career so far. LOSING!

  68. If I was the Niners with all their extra cap space then I am willing to chip in some for Kaep’s salary to get a trade done, but I am not paying anything for free. I will send him to Denver for their 3rd and Denver can work out his pay -or- I will send him to Denver and pay half of his 2016 salary but Denver will need to send me their 2nd -or- I will pay all of Kap’s 2016 Salary and send him to Denver for their 1st. Converting extra salary cap into draft picks sounds fun.

  69. Just tell us when the deal is done, FFS. All this speculation is absurd for the level of talent involved. It’s really not a big deal.

  70. bigbamboom1 says:
    Apr 3, 2016 2:17 PM
    @ lukedunphysscienceproject who said:
    “Many people in their careers take less in the short term to cash in in the long term. It’s really not that ridiculous a proposition.”

    Actually it is. In the NFL there is no such thing as long term for player with such short career spans. Especially when, as a mobile QB (or even stationary pcket one for that matter), he is only one unlucky hit from calling it a career. As the original poster said: Try telling that one to your wife and kids, while you just walk away from guaranteed millions already in hand! Long term guarantees are only for owners and commissioners.
    ===========

    Actually, it’s not. QBs get paid tens of millions of dollars well into their 30s. Fitzpatrick is looking for $15M plus per year on a multi-year deal.

    It’s not like they are asking him to give back $25M. It’s less than $5M, and if he bets on himself and has a big year, He is most likely looking at an Osweiler sized deal, which despite your strange statement that guarantees are only for owners and commissioners, contains $37M GUARANTEED.

  71. A little bit of fluke success from Kapernick got him over paid. Are the Broncos going to try and resurrect the gimmick that made Kapernick famous? No one else is using it. Why? Because it was a gimmick and defenses figured it out.

    How good is Kaepednick? He is good enough to sit on the bench behind Blaine Gabbert. Is that 12 million dollars good? Not a chance. The 9ers might have to eat half of his contract, which would be worth it if they get a 4th rounder to boot. The 49ers know what Kaepernick is and they are going to be willing to pay to get rid of him. Kaepernick s the most over rated quarterback of all time.

  72. As good as some of you think Kaepernick is, I would expect 20 teams t be offering 1st rounders for Kaepernick. Then the winner of the Kapernick lottery could offer him 25 mill a year.

  73. god some of these posts just drone on and on….I wont even read them if not less than 3 sentences….In that respect, sf is going to have to write a check to get out of this miserable situation and denude themselves of 12m…

  74. I know Kaepernick is dumb but he’d be an absolute idiot to accept a salary reduction.

  75. “He went to 3 straight Championship games”
    ————————–
    One of them sitting on the bench watching Kyle Williams deprive Alex Smith of a chance to go to the Super Bowl

  76. IF COLON CRAP-ER-PICK WAS TO SOME HOW LUCK OUT, AND HAVE SUCCESS IN DENVER IT SURE WOULD MAKE THE 49ERS LOOK STUPID!

  77. Elway mortgaged the Farm for the Ring.
    He cut his Cap to the bone to do so.

    Now, he swung and missed on Osweiler, essentially painting himself into the corner.
    Kaep and his Agents did the current deal with SF.
    Think they’ve regretted it ever since?
    You bet they have.

    Now, they think there’s an opportunity to make amends with a team that is essentially BROKE?
    Good luck with that theory.
    They won’t squeeze SF, so they’ll target Kaep, to make the Contract concessions.
    Baalke doesn’t have to blink.
    If Denver wants him, they’ll pay what SF is seeking.
    For me, it would start with flipping Picks.
    Denver gives SF the 31st for the 37th.
    That’s about equivalent to a 4th in Trade Value.
    Then I’d ask for a future 3rd.

    Otherwise?
    Sing for your supper in SF Kaep.

  78. the Niners hold all the cards here…. if Johnny boy wants him give up the pick and pay the salary…….. if not you have the Sanchize good luck with that 🙂

    Niners dont need to do a thing meet us on our terms or Kap sits simple this is exactly why they did this contract with Kap.

    Your move John…..

  79. eddiea25 says:
    Apr 3, 2016 11:30 AM
    Straight up swap, Kaepernick for The Galloping Chicken, Jimmy Garoppolo.
    ———

    Now, there is simply no way this poster spelled both of these players correct without using cut and paste.

    I don’t understand how this fits into the conversation, or what the galloping chicken even means.

  80. This is the Broncos we are talking about. They know how to cheat the cap better than anyone and have been caught twice doing it. Kap should sit tight and wait for elway to mysteriously come up with the dough.

  81. You left out a third option – the 49ers should pony up the $4.9 million if they want to get rid of Kap that badly.

    Let me see if I understand your position. Kap signed a team friendly deal a couple of years ago. Everyone, whether they are pro player or pro owner, agrees on this. Now that the team has soured on Kap, he should sacrifice money GUARANTEED in his contract to make life easier for the Niners and the Broncos. How messed up is that? You do your team a favor by signing a team friendly deal and they repay you by trying to take even more of your money.

    Moral of the story – no team friendly deals for you!

  82. know this, they say defense wins championships, Denver proved this last year…now, can a defense carry not just one, but two horrible QB’s? you need not look further than the 2012-13 49erswhen they carried one. good luck Denver, you won’t make the playoffs this year

  83. Kaepernicks agent asked to be traded so the 9ers were nice enough to let him seek a trade.This money difference is between Elway and Kaep.I’m pretty sure if Elway were to give him 2mill more then Kaep would probably take it but 9ers shouldn’tgive up a dime you want out you got it now take a pay cut and get out!!

  84. He takes a pay cut he might as well just now out now. Other players will Have to lean to like it cause it could be a domino effect. You show no berries if you take this pay cut when you don’t have to and it won’t look good.

  85. Kap should refuse a pay cut. Teams ask players to sign contacts for a reason. Teams cut bait often and it is time Kap should refuse because he has a right to get the salary he was offered. Bad or good he has a right to the terms of his contract. Elway wants him for cheap. Don’t give in Colin!!!

  86. The real sticking point with Kaepernick isn’t money. It’s whether or not Elway will permit him to wear #7.

  87. “In a world where Brock Osweiler gets $18 million per year, Kapernick shouldn’t give one single dime of a discount off that contract.”

    Os getting $18M doesn’t establish a new market value, it just establishes that the Texans paid more than they had to, and paid more than they should have.

    Kaep isn’t worth $12M. The 49ers, at least, know that much.

  88. His chance for playing time is only in Denver. That 4 million difference will be more than lost on his next deal after being backup for another year.

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