Sean Payton: “I hate guns”

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NFL coaches are conditioned to avoid controversy, seldom saying anything off script even within their small world of ball games.

But in the wake of the shooting death of former Saints defensive end Will Smith, Saints coach Sean Payton was willing to give voice to a stance about guns he knows may not be widely held in his parish.

“If this opinion in Louisiana is super unpopular, so be it,” Payton said to Jarrett Bell of USA Today. “Two hundred years from now, they’re going to look back and say, ‘What was that madness about?’

“The idea that we need them to fend off intruders, . . . people are more apt to draw them [in other situations]. That’s some silly stuff we’re hanging onto.”

The feeling is understandably raw in Payton, having just lost one of his favorite players. But his remarks clearly went beyond the pain of immediate loss.

“I’m not an extreme liberal,” Payton said. “I find myself leaning to the right on some issues. But on this issue, I can’t wrap my brain around it. I hate guns. . . .

“It was a large caliber gun. A .45. It was designed back during World War I. And this thing just stops people. It will kill someone within four or five seconds after they are struck. You bleed out. After the first shot [that struck Smith’s torso], he took three more in his back. . . .

“We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow. I don’t believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms.”

Gun rights remain one of the most polarizing debates in our country at large. And among NFL players, handguns are common.

But as with Ravens coach John Harbaugh’s letter to his team after the bike accident that claimed the life of cornerback Tray Walker, the sheer emotion of a death which could have been avoided caused Payton to step outside his normal bubble, regardless any backlash he could face at home.

236 responses to “Sean Payton: “I hate guns”

  1. “Two hundred years from now, they’re going to look back and say, ‘What was that madness about?’ ”
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    In the rest of the world, they’re saying that already.

  2. He’s right, and God bless him for speaking up. This country is out of control with all of these high powered guns that are legal

  3. He should be free to express his opinion and those who disagree should be civilized enough to let him do so without animosity. Educated people are those who able seriously to consider positions they do not hold and which they find even abhorrent.

  4. “We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow. I don’t believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms.”

    BS. That is EXACTLY what they had in mind.

    Stick to football coach – at least you are marginally competent in that arena…

  5. We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow.

    Straight up lie, no handgun is ever shipped directly to the purchaser. It must first go to federal FFL who must conduct an background check before they can give it to you.

    The more you know.

  6. Real men don’t need to shoot little animals with a rifle or have a handgun for the boogie man.

    Get rid of guns and many lives will be saved.

  7. The truth of the matter is that guns are a major problem in the U.S. Say what you will about “guns don’t kill people”-and thumbs down and name-calling will start dropping as soon as I hit “Enter”- but there are way too many armed dumbasses, simpletons and nutcases on the loose.

    There is something to be said, and not necessarily positive, about a country that has more guns in circulation that it has citizens.

    And please spare the right to bear arms shtick, OK? That was over two centuries ago and I’m pretty sure if the forefathers knew people would be killing each other left and right for no valid reason while invoking the right to bear arms 200-some years later, they would have left that little part out.

  8. ….“We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow. I don’t believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms.”…

    That’s pure comedy right there Sean. Simply put you couldn’t be more wrong. Yes, you can’t wrap your head around it because you are clueless in the subject and only speaking out of emotion.

  9. Coach Payton’s feelings are understandable this soon after Mr. Smith’s death. Later he may realize that firearms in these situations are the outward manifestation of much deeper issues.

  10. Yes, pretty much anybody can go out and buy a gun, and even if you have stricter gun laws, what are the likely hood a criminal will follow that law?Ultimately it’s about human decency. The way human beings treat other human beings is just a disgrace. Does sending someone to prison really fix the issue? Not really, prisons are filled with just as much crime as there is on the outside. It’s a complex issue, but ultimately it starts with one human respecting another’s life.

  11. “It was a large caliber gun. A .45. It was designed back during World War I. And this thing just stops people. It will kill someone within four or five seconds after they are struck. You bleed out. After the first shot [that struck Smith’s torso], he took three more in his back. . . .”

    I understand the emotions that come with the tragic, unnecessary death of a loved one. But the only way you can sum up this paragraph is an uneducated rant. He’s off by about 1/4 century on when the .45 was designed for example.

  12. Well said Mr. Payton. Thank you for using you good name in the cause to end senseless desth.

  13. I am with you, Coach!

    Good for you for having the guts to say it like it is!
    Especially while living in one of the most violent, gun-crazy areas of the country!

    Until humans are 100% rational, and all without any mental issues….there is no place for guns.

    You just became my second-favorite coach.

  14. See this drives me crazy and tends to be a common issue when the gun debate comes up.

    Not knowing the laws.

    You can NOT buy a gun online and have it shipped to your house.

    Bottom line is you can’t. I am gun owner , have been my entire life and always will be , and I support some measures like mandatory background checks for gun sales public or private , but Payton is literally making it up as he goes

  15. they cause more harm than good. Make brave people out of cowards.

    But you need them to fight back against the government if need be right ? Stupidity.

    You’re not defeating the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force you delusional NRA’ers.

    If men just behaved like men, it might be a better country/world.

  16. The comment about ordering guns online is a lie. Unless he has an FFL, the he would be lying about hating guns as he would be a dealer for guns, in which case he must not hate them to much.

  17. It isn’t as simple as “more guns” or “less guns”. After all, criminals have a habit of breaking the law and they will obtain guns either way. There are too many guns in America and you can’t just say, “okay, everyone guns are illegal turn them in by the end of the month.” Crime would probably skyrocket if criminals knew they didn’t have to risk their own safety. The town that mandated every homeowner owns a gun quickly reduces the amount of crime in their town because it turns out criminals aren’t usually willing to risk their lives to commit crimes.

    The key is to have more guns in the hands of people who are mentally stable and trained to use them, if necessary. I tell everyone the same thing – I’d rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.

  18. He’s entitled to his opinion. Tragedies like the Will Smith killing make us all think about this issue. Let’s face it, some people shouldn’t own a hand gun, the problem is, you don’t always know who those people are until they shoot someone. You have insurance for a car accident, you don’t pull out a gun and kill someone because he may be mad at you for smashing into him.

  19. “We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow. ” Payton must know some criminals that ship firearms to non FFL addresses. He doesn’t know what he is talking about. Sorry to read about the passing of Mr. Smith. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

  20. Glad he said something. So sick of hearing that we shouldn’t be talking politics in the wake of tragic gun deaths. That is some stupid logic, put out there by people who never want the conversation to take place.

  21. Thank you for the brave and sane line of thinking. This single issue could be the undoing of the greatest civilization of the past half century. A civilization founded upon modern ideas and forward thinking held back by medieval fear and violence.

  22. Sean Peyton is entitled to his opinion, and his opinion holds as much merit as any ardent NRA supporter on the other side.

    However, one thing is factually indisputable, countries with restrictive gun laws have far less murders than the wild west known as America.

  23. Unless he is a Federal arms dealer he cant get guns shipped to himself, he would need them shipped to a dealer and then pass a background check.

  24. Not pro gun by any means but eliminating them solves only a portion of the problem. We live in a very violent society and have an alarmingly large amount of people with mental problems. Need to work toward resolving all three of these issues.

  25. Preach, Brother Sean. Not a big Payton fan, but he hits the nail on the head right here. Too many guns; too much of an attitude that guns are the answer saturating our culture; too much violence; too much individualism; too much my rights are mine, yours are not worthy. It is doubtful the framers intended to put a gun in the hand of every person and allow them to use it as they think fit.

  26. I blame the gangster culture of inner cities more than guns. It is the whole “you disrespected me? I will shoot you” culture. I mean look at ESPN they have a self proclaimed member of the Bloods (Lil’ Wayne) on First Take! These are the role models for that community and we wonder why we have so much gang violence in the inner city.

  27. Voice your sadness/anger for losing a friend. But leave your political views out of it Sean. Go back to your fancy Dallas suburb and enjoy the millions you get paid for coaching a game and the cushy lifestyle it provides.

  28. Like most who support gun control, this individual’s views are grounded in emotion, fear and dogma rather than reason and evidence. You CANNOT “go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow.” That’s not at all how purchasing firearms works. A 4473 form is filled out out while a NICS check is conducted by the FFL dealer.

    Also, regarding his claim that firearms are not needed for self-defense; a 2013 CDC study – mandated by President Obama, mind you – found that “defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

    It is understandable that emotions run high after events like this transpire, however that emotion should not curtail the liberties of law-abiding citizens.

  29. It’s a lot easier to take a left-leaning position at a time when the alternative is a three-ring circus.

  30. For once in my life, I agree with Sean Payton. I hate guns, too. I alternate between pitying and laughing at the poor, miserable souls who think they’re showing off their manhood by walking around and brandishing weapons openly in public. All they’re doing is demonstrating how emotionally insecure (and probably how underendowed in the nether regions) they are. We have far too many guns and not nearly enough rational, stable people in this society. It’s sad, sick, and pathetic.

  31. Tell it like it is coach. You will be attacked by every gun nut within 3,000 miles who think that having military grade weaponry at their finger tips is the only way to get through life. Weapons that btw even the military won’t let soldiers touch until they have been properly trained. But any insecure 21 year old, or 45 year old, civilian can wake up one day and decide he has to have by the end of the day.

  32. Well stated @velociraptorwithscissors.

    “We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow.” That is simply a completely false statement and the kind of thing liberals love to latch on to and a myth they’ll perpetuate.

  33. “I could go online and order ten of them to be shipped to my house tomorrow.”

    Um no, Sean. You can’t. But way to showcase your ignorance. Stick to football and putting bounties on opposing players, you hypocritical putz.

  34. It’s not polarising to anybody outside the USA

    well said Sean Peyton.

    The gun laws in the US are insane, any argument to the contrary displays how scarily the “right to bear arms” is ingrained into the American psyche. The NRA (KKK) have done their job well

  35. The man who shot Smith was illegally carry, so he did not go online and order anything much less a gun. In fact most shooters, not all, but most that you hear about came about possessing their guns either illegally or because of failures (not loopholes) in the system.

  36. It is understandable that emotions run high after events like this transpire, however that emotion should not curtail the liberties of law-abiding citizens.
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    This is probably coming from someone that lives in a city where the average youth actually respects life… Not the same in New Orleans…

  37. Tell it like it is, Sean! In a civilized society, all guns should be banned except for single-shot rifles and shotguns reserved solely for bona fide hunters. Queue the NRA apologists and gun-nuts…

  38. Only an idiot blames an inanimate object for the actions of a mad man.

    No guns used in the Brussels attack…

    Nobody talks about the real reasons for gun violence…

    Piss poor or lack of parenting, lack of mutual and self respect….

    And a Mental healthcare system broken, because politicians and big Pharma can make more money by selling drugs to hyper kids and weak minded adults instead of counseling.

    It’s easier to blame an inanimate object than it is to scare off voters by telling them they need to be responsible for themselves.

  39. “We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow”

    False

  40. Good post velociraptorwithscissors. But don’t you realize, this is America bro. If one person is offended by gun violence then guns have to go. The very very very very loud minority always wins in America. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And Liberals always feel that their desires, are always more important than the desires of everyone else around them.

    An example, that isn’t gun related. Business. Liberal musician Bruce Springsteen has decided he wont perform in NC because of the bathroom/transgender thing going on. Liberals support Mr Springsteen’s decision to boycott. It is his music, and if he doesn’t want to do business with the people of NC, that is his right. And Liberals support his right to choose who he wants to do business with. Meanwhile, if a conservative, very religious bakery owner, decides he doesn’t want to bake a cake for a gay couple because it goes against his beliefs, he is immediately lambasted by the Liberals. Like Mr Springsteen, isn’t it his right to choose who he does business with??? The free market will determine if his business practices are acceptable based on whether or not he is forced out of business, or whether he continues to make enough money to support his business. It happens time and time and time again, liberals will always discriminate against people who don’t share their beliefs, in the name of not discriminating, LMFAO.

    (For the record, I am not a conservative, and I actually believe the business owner should bake the cake for the gay couple, I am just making a point)

  41. Let’s solve the problem effectively. Yes, a lot of people will lose money and fight.

    But here’s the deal: Handguns and assault rifles are designed to kill people, and allow the inept to be effective people killers. Collect, melt and heavily restrict these easily defined classes of firearms.

    Sporting shotguns and rifles are not something that can be concealed in a pocket or console or fire crazy amounts of shots. Federal law won’t allow a shotgun to hold more than three rounds if used for duck hunting – to protect ducks! So don’t rile up the millions of legitimate sportsmen that spend billions and aren’t the problem anyway.

    Pick the right battle – its time to get handguns and assault rifles off our streets. As an avid sportsman, and legitimate gun owner, I support this. But I can’t get behind opinions to ban and restrict “guns.” Let’s begin having intelligent, focused conversations about handguns and assault rifles.

  42. Gun violence is a symptom not the problem.

    The problem is the massive inequities in America that are the result of 40 years of the politicians passing laws legalizing many corrupt practices and influence peddling.

    That has created a lot of very angry people.

    So you take the guns away people will kill each other with knives. Even a kitchen knife can easily kill with a 4″ blade.

    Take away blades, then what, baseball bats, golf clubs ? There are so many ways to improvise weapons of murder that just “taking the guns away” will solve nothing.

    We have to get rid of both the Dems and GOP. Both parties are utterly and totally corrupt and every member of congress commits treason on a daily basis selling out our country to the corporations.

  43. Kind of a moot point now. There are more guns than people in the US. No laws can get them out of the hands of criminals, only law abiding citizens. We definitely have too many and our society has suffered for it, but I’m not sure there is an answer.

  44. He has no problem going on about how he hates guns, but not a word about mind set of all the idiots out there that feel they need to shoot someone to settle their differences.

  45. I agree that it’s a culture problem, not a gun problem. It’s sickening when the anti-gun nuts seize on a tragedy to push their political agenda.

  46. Gun haters, don’t automatically assume that gun owners or defenders are nra members. The nra doesn’t give you some special right to own guns. The Constitution does.

  47. Soooo what website sells guns like that? Do you get a quantity discount if you buy 10 or more? Do I have to sign for it or will ups just leave them at my door?

  48. Y, I see the point you are trying to make, but a bakery discriminating against gays is not the same as Springsteen not performing in NC. One is protesting a discriminatory law and the other is using a law to discriminate.

  49. This was a senseless tragedy…but if Will Smith had been killed by a knife wielding maniac, would Payton be saying “I hate knives”? Or if it had been a hit and run by a drunk driver…far more common in a place like New Orleans…would Payton be calling for “Car Control”? A gun is a tool, and like any tool it can be misused by some. There are millions of responsible gun owners who obtain and use them legally…but criminals don’t often do anything legally. Why not criticize the “gangster” mentality that glorifies this type of violence?

    “It’s better to have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it.”

  50. 90lions81
    Apr 12, 2016, 7:43 AM CDT

    I like guns. … I hate Stupid people.

    If he didn’t have a gun he would have stabbed him with a knife or run him over with his suv.
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    I am 100% certain the man would still be alive today if there wasn’t a gun involved.

  51. Payton’s an idiot. You can’t have guns shipped to your house, but since it’s the media that’s showing what he said, everyone will believe it.

  52. oilerthentexandiehard says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:20 AM
    ~~clipped post~~

    Type of weapon has nothing to do with it. The second amendment says nothing about type of weapon.

    In recent times, anytime the government has touched on our rights, they have messed things up.

    Leave the constitution alone, get out of our rights.

  53. As a European who spend a year living in Arizona, I continue to be confused by the purpose and continuance of American gun laws, when it is so obvious it leads to less safety, not more for law abiding citizens. How many more innocent people including children should get killed before the obvious becomes clear for the majority. In Europe we have road rage too – but it usually leads to broken noses and black eyes – not dead people. Do burglars carry arms – no, because they don’t fear getting their head blown off.

    The argument about the constitution is simply pointless. Just because something made sense in 1791, does not mean it makes sense today. And it makes zero sense whatsoever.

  54. The stories of somebody saving heir own life, or that of a loved one, because he was carrying a gun, are few and far between.

    There should absolutely be some gun control. Not elimination of the 2nd amendment, but some control. If anybody says they need a semi automatic, or automatic rifle, for hunting or their own protection, they are lying.

  55. If Payton spent half as much time on this issue that he does on football he would have come to a different conclusion. It’s clear by his statement he doesn’t know the first thing about it. The Brady law has been in place for over 25 years, and there are many cases where the government simply doesn’t slam those who buy them legally and resell them at profit to gangland felons. Chicago PD calls them ‘straw purchasers’.

    Enforce the current laws. I would even be on board with a yearly proof of ownership law requiring someone with say 20+ handguns on record to account and report for them yearly, more often if there were large numbers of purchases in specified amounts of time. That would solve for 2 things. The progressive love for more bureaucracy, and cut down on felons getting the guns.

  56. dce101 – Chicago is America’s most murderous and gun violent city, yet it has the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. How do you explain that? Criminals don’t follow gun laws, law abiding citizens do….

  57. dcee101 says:

    However, one thing is factually indisputable, countries with restrictive gun laws have far less murders than the wild west known as America.
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    Another indisputable fact is US cities with restrictive gun laws have far more murders than cities with more relaxed gun laws.

  58. Oilerthentexandiehard, maybe they should put a ban on cocaine, meth, and other drugs to get them off the streets and then see how that works. Oh wait, there is a ban on those things.. How is it that people still have them?? Incase you haven’t realized this, criminals don’t abide by the law.. They will still get guns the same way they do now. Illegally. The man who shot Will Smith was illegally carrying a gun. Think about that..

  59. The comments on this post are evidence of why the United States needs free college for all.

  60. It’s unfortunate that he is either not educated about our countries current firearm laws, or chooses to ignore them.
    No one, except a Federally Licensed Dealer of Firearms, could order .45ACP caliber Handgun “online” and have them delivered to their house. Let alone 10 of then.
    I understand people who are for gun control, but seriously, do some research on gun laws. ALL of these terrible crimes committed with Firearms are already illegal. There are no laws you can create that will affect people who do not follow them.
    Stop forming opinions on sound bites and biased medias.

  61. I love guns, I love to target shoot. I used to go to the range, but have since bought a 15 acre property to enjoy my sport.

    I learned to shoot in the military, I own all my guns legally, I taught my wife how to shoot, taught her defensive shooting tactics, and she has learned the sport as well. She has taken classes and is licensed by the state.

    Our children know there are guns in the house. I have shown unloaded guns to them to remove the mystery and begin safety talks with them. Eventually I will expose them to safe-handling, and one day, hopefully target shooting, if the are interested.

    As a safe, responsible gun-owner I am not in the minority. Unfortunately it is the minority, and probably illegally owned, “gun owners” that are making all this noise.

  62. velociraptorwithscissors says:
    Apr 12, 2016 8:56 AM

    Like most who support gun control, this individual’s views are grounded in emotion, fear and dogma rather than reason and evidence. You CANNOT “go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow.” That’s not at all how purchasing firearms works. A 4473 form is filled out out while a NICS check is conducted by the FFL dealer.

    Also, regarding his claim that firearms are not needed for self-defense; a 2013 CDC study – mandated by President Obama, mind you – found that “defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

    It is understandable that emotions run high after events like this transpire, however that emotion should not curtail the liberties of law-abiding citizens.
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    Obviously the defensive uses are minimized if they are banned. The single most telling stat:

    2014 gun related deaths:

    USA 34,000
    Japan 6

  63. The easy access to guns have destroyed this country. I’m with Sean Peyton on this one 100%. People have been brainwashed and scared by the conservative media, aka FOX News, that they need a gun. When the hell have we ever read about someone scaring off a potential criminal with a gun? It never happens. Life and death situations happen in an instant and no one is prepared to react with a gun. And these situations will NEVER come up with 99.9% of us. How can people become so paranoid and scared that they feel a need to have a gun? Does it make them feel more macho and manly? Just pathetic. Not someone I ever want to know.

  64. Guns are legal in Beverly Hills, yet no drive by’s. Guns are legal in Oakland, yet murders by the hundreds. The problem isnt an inantimate object, its the hearts and minds of the people who resort to violence.

  65. “Collect, melt and heavily restrict these easily defined classes of firearms.”

    — You see, the problem with this statement and statements made by peyton, is that you believe that if they pass a law to do this, that somehow they will all disappear and no one (especially the criminal element) will never be able to obtain one.

  66. Of course, Sean. And after the election of wholly unqualified presidential candidates, we could also say that the intention of all citizens to vote was that they be informed. But since that is not the case, we really should limit or eliminate the RIGHT of some people to vote. In 200 years, people will look back and say “what craziness”, America used to let people who contributed NOTHING to society have a say in its governance! I recognize that this opinion might not be popular with the “takers” in our society, but these uninformed voters have the potential to put America on the wrong track gor generations by voting in half-wits. I just can’t wrap my head around that.

    Right, Sean?

  67. eroschmidt says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:43 AM
    dce101 – Chicago is America’s most murderous and gun violent city, yet it has the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. How do you explain that? Criminals don’t follow gun laws, law abiding citizens do….

    =========

    Could have something to do with the South East city limit of Chicago proper bordering the state of Indiana, an extremely lax state when it comes to gun legislation. Crazy that all the violence seems to be happening on the South side there, too. Hm.

  68. Love the fudd who wants to ban “assault rifles” and pistols but thinks the government will stop at his beloved bolt actions (media retermed “evil sniper rifles”) the 2A isn’t about huntin’ deer Elmer….

  69. Harsher sentences on gun offenders will help. Don’t penalize law abiding gun enthusiasts by stripping their constitutional rights from them.

  70. Look up the number of deaths from medical mistakes – compare that to deaths by firearms.

    Statistically speaking – you’re 300 times more likely to die by your doctor than by shooting of any type.

    No one’s looking to change a system that fosters medical mistakes. Doctors joke about their bad hand writing which leads to wrong meds killing patients. Doctors work 48 hour shifts with little sleep, yet a truck driver has to rest every 10 hours for another 10 hours.

    There’s a difference between reading and understanding. Sean doesn’t understand.

    Course I noticed he has no problem with the guns that protect him and his staff on the side lines or his family in their neighborhood. He feels he’s worth protecting, just not you or me and that’s the pinnacle of liberal hypocrisy.

  71. A criminologist will tell you that it takes something more to stab a person than it does to shoot at a person.

    The crime requires more fire, more anger because actually plunging the blade into someone’s body is up close and personal. More savage.

    So, those who would argue that shooters would just find another way to kill is not a foregone conclusion if guns were not available.

  72. There is clearly a problem in the US when compared to other countries with stricter gun laws. Is it the people/culture or the laws? Status quo isn’t working so why not try harsher laws and see if it makes a positive change?

  73. Payton is an idiot.

    Nowhere in this country can you buy a gun online and have it shipped to your door. You can make an online purchase, but the gun is shipped to a gun dealer and you have to pass a background check before you can take possession. And most states require you to hold a pistol permit for a handgun.

    Either Payton is ignorant of the law or just ignorant in general.

    As for his “The idea that we need them to fend off intruders, That’s some silly stuff we’re hanging onto.” comment. I wonder what he thinks about the armed guards that protect him at the Superdome and elsewhere across the country….

  74. Stop posting lies people. Countries and states with the most restrictive gun laws have the HIGHEST violent gun crime.
    Look at Chicago…..

    Idaho has the most open gun carry laws and they have the lowest violent crime of all states……

    How about actually raising your kids in these inner cities instead of bailing on them and having them grow up in the streets?

    Saying guns cause violence is like saying spoons make ou fat…

  75. Ban sports cars too. And Motorcycles, they kill people too. Wait, no more beer and hard booze. Hey Sean, stick to what you know, football. You can’t just have a gun delivered to your house and there are many, many things in this world that can kill you besides guns.

  76. I don’t particularly “like” guns either, but I went through the three ring circus required here in NY to get one and will use it if needed in self-defense. And that right should apply to anybody else who is mentally fit and responsible as it’s their right.

  77. Anyone who cites the 2nd amendment as a reason we should have guns is uninformed. The 2nd amend was designed so that citizens could be armed so as to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. At the time it made sense because the army had muskets and citizens had muskets, even fight.
    Today, things are slightly more lopsided. Unless the govt is going to allow us to have billion dollar stealth bombers, nuclear weapons, drones, etc. I don’t think the American people will stand much of a chance against a tyrannical govt. army.

    Also the idea that people being more responsible is the issue is pretty crazy. Sure some of us are responsible, but there will always be a large part of the population who is not, and until we can separate all of those people from the smart responsible ones, I don’t like the idea of non hunting/sporting guns being so readily available.

  78. You can blame guns all day long, but until the unabated crime in these intercity neighborhoods is solved the issue will remain. Unfortunately the dominant party influence in these neighborhoods is democratic and they won’t acknowledge it for fear of losing votes. Damn losing votes…please help these neighborhoods!!

  79. Good for Payton, and he’s right. Regardless of one’s position on guns, it’s pretty hard to argue that our country has a really unhealthy obsession with them, and a really unhealthy attachment to social and economic structures that perpetuate fear, anger, desperation, and detachment that all lead to more killing.

    We are an unwell nation, and guns are part of the problem – both a symptom and a contributing cause.

  80. So maybe you can’t have them shipped to your house. But in my state you can go buy guns from some guy off of craigslist in a strip mall parking lot, or at a gun show, with no legitimate background check. All legally.

    So much for the oversight of a well-organized militia.

  81. Murder existed long before guns did.
    Violence resides in the heart, not the barrel of a gun.

  82. “There are many other things in this world that can kill you besides guns.” Haha great argument. What else can you use that for. Why cure cancer? There are plenty of other diseases that can kill you.

  83. Every male, under the age of 35, in Switzerland has a military grade firearm. Switzerland has one of the lowest firearm homicide rates in the world.

    Guns aren’t the problem. The problem is socioeconomic as most gun violence is related to gang activity, in the United States. Some people are bad. What saves lives is the time frame it takes for another firearm to show up. Just look at the Republican. Gilfords shooting.

  84. I grew up in rural Ohio…my grandfathers house was full of guns…my fathers house was full of guns…my house is full of guns…we hunt deer, turkey, squirrels and other things…we target shoot…no one in my family, or any of my friends have ever been involved in a crime with a gun…I am always amazed at liberals who have never held a gun who want so badly to take away my second amendment rights…

  85. I don’t blame Sean Payto for his comments. These are emotionally based and even though coaches learn to speak trying to hide their emotions (for instance press conferences immediately after games), those are just that, games! This was a young man’s life and Payton is hurt and said what he said. No doubt it gives you a view of Payton’s politics. But who cares. He is upset and grieving the loss of a friend.

    As to the politics of guns, there is nothing that anyone could say, that won’t draw the ire of someone else on this issue.

    Sadly, the politics of all issues is all about the money. Big money lobbyists and supporters buy their support. That is the most undeniable fact of all in the discussion of guns, or almost anything else controversial.

  86. Obama on Syria: “Syrian citizens should be able to own assault weapons to defend themselves from a government that does not represent them.”

    Obama on America: “There is no reason why American citizens should have assault weapons.”

  87. Yes, guns protect the people from criminals but more importantly, they protect the people from an over zealous govt.
    “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

  88. Voice your sadness/anger for losing a friend. But leave your political views out of it Sean. Go back to your fancy Dallas suburb and enjoy the millions you get paid for coaching a game and the cushy lifestyle it provides.

    —–

    If he got killed by a drunk driver would he be allowed to lament drunk driving? Or would that be too political?

  89. Gun Show Loophole. It’s easier to get a gun now than ever.

    91 people day per day due to gun violence in this country. Yes, many of those are suicides but the point is that guns are the default mechanism for solving problems/disputes in this country.

    Only in America. Literally….only here.

  90. To dcee101:

    You said: “However, one thing is factually indisputable, countries with restrictive gun laws have far less (sic) murders than the wild west known as America.”

    That’s factually incorrect.

    Mexico has restrictive gun laws. Its murder rate per 100,000 people is over *four times* as the murder rate in the U.S.

  91. Take guns from responsible people so that maybe irresponsible people will stop using theirs. That makes sense to you? If the sheep lay down their weapons the wolves will too!

    The 2nd amendment “made sense in the 1700s but not now”? How about the whole bill of rights, maybe the whole thing is outmoded? Who is to say? If you don’t like the constitution, change it, it has an “amendment” provision written into it. Isn’t that brilliant?

  92. illogicalvoicesinmyhead says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:31 AM
    I agree that it’s a culture problem, not a gun problem. It’s sickening when the anti-gun nuts seize on a tragedy to push their political agenda.

    ——-

    It’s almost as sickening as pro-gun nuts who turn a blind eye to tragedy, and measures that could lessen them, while succumbing to their own fearful nature. It’s no surprise that conservatism has a high correlation with being fearful.

  93. Reading through these comments is frightening.

    First of all, if you believe that the 2nd amendment is outdated and doesn’t apply to current guns, then congratulations, you just made the case for taking away your 1st amendment rights. You see, our founders couldn’t have conceived of things like phones, the internet, TV, etc, so by your logic, your 1st amendment rights should be taken away.

    Second, metitometin and your ridiculous assertion that defensive gun use “NEVER happens”. It happens over two million times per year and is reported daily, millions of lives are saved because people are prepared to defend themselves.

    And finally, conormacleod. You argue against semi-automatic and automatic guns. Explain to me the difference between those two and say…a bolt action. Don’t google it, just answer. My guess is that you don’t have a clue and are just scared by terminology. Semi-auto is absolutely a hunting and self-defense gun.

  94. pftthoughtpolicemostwanted said:

    I bet he has a closet film of guns.

    I disagree, he is right I am more right then left but when it comes to guns there is a probably with them. If we never had had them would we have crimes as high and deaths as much as we do.

    The excuse is well there out there so I better get one to to protect myself. It’s like my dad said growing up,”nothing good ever happens after 10:00pm at night.” My point, nothing good could ever come from a gun period.

  95. velociraptorwithscissors says:
    Apr 12, 2016 8:56 AM

    Also, regarding his claim that firearms are not needed for self-defense; a 2013 CDC study – mandated by President Obama, mind you – found that “defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

    ====================

    Did you even read the study? You quoted one estimate mentioned in the study (which is not the estimate of the study’s authors), but you left out the next sentence:

    “On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook
    et al., 1997).”

    Search for the study yourself. It is available free online. It is called “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence”.

  96. In Michigan’s UP there were 15 deaths on snowmobiles between Jan-March. Snowmobiles are way more dangerous than guns.

  97. conormacleod says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:41 AM

    The stories of somebody saving heir own life, or that of a loved one, because he was carrying a gun, are few and far between.

    —-

    What? No they are not. What you are forgetting is that, here, in America, we have a liberal media bias that cherry picks what news gets reported, and then puts their bias into their reporting of said news. So because CNN has their agenda, they absolutely WILL NOT report on news that is counter to their agenda.

    You should really wake up, and stop being spoon-fed how to think.

  98. Dear Mr. Payton,

    You can hate the gun all you want, but the gun doesn’t care. The gun has ZERO ability to kill. The gun didn’t fire by itself.

    Hitler confiscated guns on his way to being a dictator.

  99. We have many guns in my home from 200 years worth of service defending this country from foreign enemies, all so folks can now sit around and complain about having too many freedoms. My favorite is the Brown Bess some hapless redcoats tried to use while burning a barn.

  100. ( . Y . )
    Apr 12, 2016, 6:19 AM PDT

    (For the record, I am not a conservative, and I actually believe the business owner should bake the cake for the gay couple, I am just making a point)
    __________________________________

    Any thoughts as to why you felt the need to qualify your point? You made your point regarding the intrinsic hypocrisy of freedom of choice quite succinctly in my opinion, yet your true beliefs need to be shared.

    “Here’s what the constitution says is fair and balanced – hey, don’t get me wrong, I personally am enlightened, so judge me by what I think not what I say – but here’s what’s fair and balanced”.

  101. Gun-obsessed Australia introduced very strict laws in 1996, after their Port Arthur massacre left over 30 dead. And since then homicide and wounding rates have since dropped dramatically.

    Bottom line – too many Americans see their personal freedoms as more important than their social responsibilities. Guns are just one result of that, and only a symptom of the violence rather than a root cause, but they are like pouring gas onto an already raging fire.

  102. It is true the US has the most per capita gun ownership among the 218 nations and territories that statistics are recorded for.

    And in 2013 (Wiki), the US had an overall Gun Homicide rate of 3.8 per 100,000.

    So Liberals preach their simpleton thinking that US, with the most gun ownership and its 3.8 Gun Homicides per capita should place the US at the top of the list for Gun Homicides among 218 nations and territories, right?

    Now the reality is: the nation with the highest Gun Homicide rate is Socialist Honduras with strict anti-gun laws, outlawing guns for the average person.

    At number 2 in Gun Homicides per capita is Socialist Venezuela with strict Anti-gun laws.

    With 3.8 Gun Homicides per capita, does that place the US in the top ten for Gun Homicides? No.

    With 3.8 Gun Homicides per 100,000, the US ranks 121 out of 218 nations and territories in Gun related Homicides.

    Guns are not the he problem, bad guys are.

  103. Lets ignore successful cases of gun laws (yes, measurable success), and give in to our fearful emotions:

    Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.

  104. Lets not forget that Payton is the guy who rewarded his own guys for injuring other players. Perhaps he should take a long hard look in the mirror before he decides to preach to others about being responsible and safe.

  105. Sean Payton has a right to hate guns. That’s fine. But people who hate guns have no right to try to take guns away from law abiding citizens who wish to own them.
    The bleeding hearts will never understand the truth that people kill people, guns don’t kill people. Further, they don’t understand that they can create all the laws they want concerning guns, but it isn’t going to stop bad people from getting and using them.
    Jimmy Carter was a lousy President because he tried using diplomacy in everything he did when he was in office. He found out the hard way that you can’t deal with bad guys using diplomacy. Think back to when you were a kid and there was a bully in the neighborhood. The best way to get rid of that bully was to have some other kid beat his butt. You could ask him to stop all you wanted, but the only thing he understood was the same thing he was dishing out.
    It’s the same thing with gun laws. All you are doing by creating more gun laws are infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens to own them and use them as they wish, and the bad guys are not affected one bit. The way to stop bad guys who use weapons to commit violent crimes is get as tough as you can with them, with no exceptions and no leniency.
    Hillary Clinton spouts off every chance she gets about gun laws. She is clueless, but the liberals stand and applaud her as some noble figure. All she is doing is trying to win votes by grandstanding. She’s as phony as her lying, cheating husband.
    Using her logic, we ought to be calling for a ban on cars. Cars kill so many people for reasons such as drunks getting behind the wheel, or people are using their cell phones and texting while driving, or they’re simply not concentrating on what they are doing. So — let’s ban cars!!! (Hillary’s audience is standing and applauding).
    I mean, c’mon people! Stop believing in these Utopian ideals that liberals have. They don’t work and never will.
    We’ve all seen videos of bad guys going into a convenience store and pulling out a hand gun to rob the joint, but the guy behind the counter pulls his out and shoots first and nails the perp or drives him out of his store. Think of what might have happened had the store employee or owner not had a gun to protect himself, which is his right.
    I don’t own any guns, but I will defend the right of any law abiding citizen to own one.

  106. The loopholes need to be closed, all gun owners should be licensed and all guns should be registered and insured…just like a car.

    Keep the “normal” guns for hunting, and allow one handgun per adult in a residence (for protection, blah, blah, blah,) but ban personal ownership of the hardcore crap. Set up licensed ranges to rent and shoot whatever you want, but it stays there when you leave.

  107. If the liberals had their way theor would be no guns. They always miss the boat. Criminals are the problem. Mental health is the problem. It is not thr inanimate object. The gun issue is about control. I personally do not own a gun. It is my choice. If someone wants one then they a guaranteed right to have it..what the left always excuses away is that city’s like Chicago who have the toughest gun laws have the highest murder rates by gun violence. Why is that? Why are states that have less restrictive laws have less gun violence? It is all about the individual.

  108. Dolphinjingle, you make no sense. Despite the fact that the founders may not have predicted that the Internet and cell phone would exist one day, the same purpose behind the 1st amendment applies with equal force to the forms of free speech that existed then and now. That is not even remotely true for the 2nd amend. The purpose or original intent of the founders is completely gone in regards to the 2nd amend. Unless you think a couple pistols will protect you against a tyrannical govt boasting tanks, bombers, nuclear submarines, drones, etc.

  109. But I guess putting bounties on players is ok… It’s not like anyone gets hurt then… Great point Sean, stick to chewing gum and underachieving.

  110. “Unless the govt is going to allow us to have billion dollar stealth bombers, nuclear weapons, drones, etc. I don’t think the American people will stand much of a chance against a tyrannical govt. army. ”

    The same US gov’t that has done such a great job of squashing out ISIS? The group of terrorists who are growing by the day and armed only with suicide bombs and rifles?

    And you forget that our US soldiers are US citizens too…..half of them would probably defect to siding with their family should the gov’t become tyranical.

    The US gov’t would cease to exist within a year if everyone stopped paying taxes and guerilla warfare was waged by every citizen in the country.

    I’m not saying it will ever happen but those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We stuck our own US citizens (Japanese-Americans) in internment camps during WW2.

  111. It’s true … The USA has a pretty dismal record among developed countries when it comes to gun deaths.

    But … if you eliminate a handful of the areas with the strictest gun laws … suddenly the USA has one of the best records.

    Why on earth would anyone want to apply such a failed template to the rest of the country?

  112. Payton should stay inside his little, protected, football bubble… And try to build a Championship team…

    One thing I cannot stand is someone who is in a high profile position, visible like this guys is, talking about something they know nothing about… And espousing untruths…

    Sean, please do tell me where I can “go online and get 10 of them and have them shipped to my house tomorrow…” Cause that’d be a special feat…. And in VIOLATION of the 1968 Firearms Control ACT!!!!

    Please stick to topics you actually know and understand. Obviously firearms and purchasing them isn’t something you understand…

  113. buffalostarwarsfan says:
    Apr 12, 2016 11:07 AM
    Voice your sadness/anger for losing a friend. But leave your political views out of it Sean. Go back to your fancy Dallas suburb and enjoy the millions you get paid for coaching a game and the cushy lifestyle it provides.

    —–

    If he got killed by a drunk driver would he be allowed to lament drunk driving? Or would that be too political?
    =========================
    He wouldn’t be calling to ban alcohol or cars. That’s for sure.

  114. The American public demands two things, guns and drugs. The culture surrounding these items are deep rooted and NO LAW will change either. Some how you have to change the mind set of the population to change either. Don’t tell me guns are legal because I will guess half the guns in this country are illegal. All you need is a few hundred dollars a couple of hours and you got yourself a gun and heroin.

  115. Just an aside, if you use the terms liberal or conservative as a pejorative you lose all credibility with any person who actually thinks things through.

  116. Peyton should focus on X’s and O’s. His personal opinion doesn’t matter. I don’t like crawfish so fishing for them should be outlawed! lol

  117. Lots of other countries available that don’t have big scary guns available. You can always relocate.

  118. joeinoh says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:47 AM

    I love guns, I love to target shoot. I used to go to the range, but have since bought a 15 acre property to enjoy my sport.

    I learned to shoot in the military, I own all my guns legally, I taught my wife how to shoot, taught her defensive shooting tactics, and she has learned the sport as well. She has taken classes and is licensed by the state.

    Our children know there are guns in the house. I have shown unloaded guns to them to remove the mystery and begin safety talks with them. Eventually I will expose them to safe-handling, and one day, hopefully target shooting, if the are interested.

    As a safe, responsible gun-owner I am not in the minority. Unfortunately it is the minority, and probably illegally owned, “gun owners” that are making all this noise.
    —————–
    You, sir, are exhibiting responsible “gun control”. And yet, even though I use those words, no where did I violate your constitutional rights.

    The U.S. absolutely needs “gun control”. If the U.S. had more gun control, a lot more people would live.

  119. Sean Payton comments are typical of people who fail to understand the constitution or would rather be ingnorant on the subject.

    So lets explore the real problem…If Cardell Hayes had been given the maximum sentence for illegal gun possession,Will Smith would be alive today.

    As in Chicago, their is unwillingness by the courts residing in Heavily controlled Democrat party cities to give first time illegal gun possession defendants the maximum for a first time offense, which would be a deterrent for a second time offense if the book was thrown at the defendant the first time around.

    Even in Chicago the maximum is a paltry three years for illegal firearm possession, which would of put Cardell Hays in prison until 2017…Will Smith would be alive today.

    Cardell Hays was given 6 months probation for illegal possession of a deadly weapon that’s why Will Smith is dead!

    So Sean, instead of hating guns, maybe direct some of that anger at the Justice system that manufactures repeat offenders and makes everyone less safe?

  120. usdcoyotesfan says:
    Apr 12, 2016 10:55 AM
    Obama on Syria: “Syrian citizens should be able to own assault weapons to defend themselves from a government that does not represent them.”

    Obama on America: “There is no reason why American citizens should have assault weapons.”

    ________________

    I guess we should never let a good sounding quote get in the way of facts, should we?

    Well, I searched for the first Obama quote (above) in Google. Much to my surprise it was not there. I think perhaps Mr. usdcoyotesfan took some artistic license and came up with that quote relative to the Obama administration allowing Syrian rebels to be provided with guns. Something a number of past president’s have done to combat governments in other nations. Without researching I can think of several, mostly Reagan era.

    Now, I am no political doctorate, but I do see false statements from miles away.

    I get passion on this issue. But don’t make stuff up!

  121. cornerstone2001 says:
    Apr 12, 2016 10:31 AM
    Stop posting lies people. Countries and states with the most restrictive gun laws have the HIGHEST violent gun crime.
    Look at Chicago…..

    Idaho has the most open gun carry laws and they have the lowest violent crime of all states……

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    First, Chicago isn’t a state nor is it a country. Second that statement is completely untrue. The five states with the fewest gun deaths per capita are Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York, in that order. All states with stringent gun laws. The 10 states with the highest gun deaths per capita are Alaska, Louisiana, Montana, Arizona, Nevada, Mississippi, New Mexico, Arkansas, Alabama and Tennessee. All of these states have very lax gun laws.
    I’m not anti gun in the least. I own several and shoot at least once a month. I do however feel there should be stricter regulations with regard to purchasing fire arms. In many states it’s easier to buy guns than it is to get cold medicine.
    Also, mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years for anyone caught carrying or discharging illegally.

  122. Claiming that guns have nothing to do with killing is so dumb I don’t know where to begin. Why do people use guns, pray tell?

    “If he didn’t have a gun he would have stabbed him with a knife or run him over with his suv.”

    You don’t know that. At all. Guns are much quicker and much, much easier.

    Guns are incredibly dangerous. To attempt to dispute that fact is to invite ridicule. Something is truly wrong with your brain.

  123. “We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow. I don’t believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms.”

    Yeah, that about sums it up. The NRA has too much power, and it is costing people their lives.

  124. it is very evident that the rate of gun ownership does not directly correlate to the number of gun crimes whether you are talking different cities or countries

    anyway, it’s useless to discuss as guns will always be part of American society and until our culture gets less violence focused, there will be a ton of violence of all types

  125. the only real argument gun supporters have is best summed up by Jim Jeffries

    “I like my guns”

    All the other arguments are nonsense. Not saying it’s not a valid argument – people like all sorts of things that are bad for them – like smoking, alcohol, etc. But all the other safety and security arguments are nonsense.

  126. buffalostarwarsfan says:

    If he got killed by a drunk driver would he be allowed to lament drunk driving? Or would that be too political?

    ————————————————————–

    No, it wouldn’t, but “lamenting drunk driving” is not an analogue to Payton’s comments about guns.

    The equivalent would be Payton lamenting that people are allowed to drink and implying that alcohol should be banned.

    I’m confident that Payton would not make those statements.

  127. “downwithroger says:
    Apr 12, 2016 10:32 AM

    Anyone who cites the 2nd amendment as a reason we should have guns is uninformed. The 2nd amend was designed so that citizens could be armed so as to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. At the time it made sense because the army had muskets and citizens had muskets, even fight.
    Today, things are slightly more lopsided. Unless the govt is going to allow us to have billion dollar stealth bombers, nuclear weapons, drones, etc. I don’t think the American people will stand much of a chance against a tyrannical govt. army.

    Also the idea that people being more responsible is the issue is pretty crazy. Sure some of us are responsible, but there will always be a large part of the population who is not, and until we can separate all of those people from the smart responsible ones, I don’t like the idea of non hunting/sporting guns being so readily available.”

    Says someone who clearly didn’t pay attention to how the VC kicked our B-52 loving arse in Vietnam or how the Afghan folks repelled both the USA and USSR using little more than muskets and homemade IED’s. You clearly do not understand how insurgency works. Our active and reserve military is less than 2 million folks right now…and all the planes, bombs, and guns they need to go to war are made by regular American citizens. So, while there is a HUGE advantage in technology in use by our military, there is an overwhelming advantage in adding up the collective firepower of citizens to fight back against our own government should the need arise. It just doesn’t take much to make an IED or to turn any given urban environment into a tactical nightmare for troops bound to a centralized logistics operation and who need centralized command and control to operate effectively. Let’s also not discount the number of cops, etc. who would be able to use some of their military style gear in an insurgency. Study the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan before you make a silly comment like this.

  128. Just wondering, does Amazon do Prime, same day shipping on those guns? Any chance Uber is getting into gun deliver, they are now delivering food.

  129. stellarperformance says:
    Apr 12, 2016 11:56 AM
    The loopholes need to be closed, all gun owners should be licensed and all guns should be registered and insured…just like a car.

    Keep the “normal” guns for hunting, and allow one handgun per adult in a residence (for protection, blah, blah, blah,) but ban personal ownership of the hardcore crap. Set up licensed ranges to rent and shoot whatever you want, but it stays there when you leave.

    ————————————————–
    Another example of not knowing the law…There are no loopholes, all legal gun owners have to be licensed and pass a background check. Illinois requires you to submit to a full Illinois state police background check for the opportunity to obtain a FOID Card, which is a permit just to buy a firearm. In Illinois, there had never been a murder or illegal shooting by a FOID Card gun owner…EVER!!!!

    The idea anyone can just waltz to their local gun show and buy an UZI, Grenade launcher, 357 magnum or 38 special is propaganda spread mostly by the Democrat party and anti-gun groups.

  130. There thousands of people who have guns that should not have them. If anybody can figure out how to keep guns away from those people i am all ears. An Australian style confiscation will take my guns but not the crook down the street who bought it illegally. He would still have his and insurance that i would be unable to protect my home.

  131. That is fine Mr. Payton. You can hate guns as this is America and you have that freedom of opinion. On the other hand, I love guns and feel they are vital for Americans safety and shooting sports rights. Besides that it is a constitutional right. Just a little fact.

  132. Steph says:
    Apr 12, 2016 10:08 AM
    eroschmidt says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:43 AM
    dce101 – Chicago is America’s most murderous and gun violent city, yet it has the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. How do you explain that? Criminals don’t follow gun laws, law abiding citizens do….

    =========

    Could have something to do with the South East city limit of Chicago proper bordering the state of Indiana, an extremely lax state when it comes to gun legislation. Crazy that all the violence seems to be happening on the South side there, too. Hm.

    ———————————————–

    It’s illegal to sell a firearm in Indiana to a person that IS NOT a resident of Indiana and who has passed a proper State of Indiana background check…nice try!

  133. @nyneal says:
    Apr 12, 2016 11:56 AM
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    Guns, What a fun topic. I totally understand that people kill people, not the item they chose to use. But the cases made that cars, or people texting, etc. kill people too, just doesn’t hold water.

    One simple question in rebuttal, what is the sole purpose of a gun? Now don’t tell me what else it can be used for. What is it’s sole purpose? I have thought long and hard on that question and it’s to maim or kill. Something to provide lethal harm to something else.

    Cars, cell phones, texting, etc., certainly can create lethal results if misused. But don’t try and sell that argument. No one is buying!

  134. Always makes me laugh when people say guns should be outlawed.

    Yet look around at who guards politicians, celebrities etc?

    Armed guards that’s who.

    And for you people who want guns banned.

    Who do you call when a crime is being committed against you?
    A police officer with a gun.

    I’d rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.

  135. If he didn’t have a gun he would have stabbed him with a knife or run him over with his suv.

    _____

    Killing someone by knife is far more personal and difficult than by gun. You have to get up close, pretty much right into the person. Takes a lot more courage and a bit more thinking then pointing a gun at someone and pulling a trigger from a few feet away. And Smith would be able to defend himself, he was a large strong man.

    Running him over with a car? Really? Smith would have time to move out of the way or avoid the car. With a gun, you don’t get that time.

  136. Idaho has the most open gun carry laws and they have the lowest violent crime of all states……

    _____

    Idaho? Whats the population there? 10?

  137. remember when Ronald Reagan spoke out against assault weapons?

    “I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth or home defense. But I do believe an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon nor needed for home defense.” – Ronald Reagan

    if he were running today, he wouldn’t stand a chance with today’s Republican party

  138. privatecowboy says:
    Apr 12, 2016 1:06 PM
    Another example of not knowing the law…There are no loopholes, all legal gun owners have to be licensed and pass a background check……blah, blah, blah.
    ////////////////////////////////////

    You’re right. Another example of not knowing the law.

    Eleven states, including Illinois, require background checks at gun shows. Another six sites require background checks at gun shows for handguns only.

    Thirty-three states don’t. At all. That doesn’t qualify as a loophole to you?

    Register all guns…all guns. License the owner and don’t give them a license without proof of insurance.

    Just like a car.

  139. Guns aren’t the problem. I’ve carried a gun everyday for 14 years with never a problem, accident or had to use it. The problem is with the people of the inner cities.

  140. As a United States Marine let me give you a little history lesson. If it were not for guns we would not have the country we have. The sooner people start realizing that guns don’t kill people, PEOPLE kill people, we can get to the core of the problem. If someone runs another person over with a car we don’t blame the car, we blame the person behind the wheel. Wake up and start blaming the hand holding the gun, not the gun itself. No guns = loss of freedom

  141. Troll Nanny says:
    Apr 12, 2016 2:02 PM
    I need an assault rifle because:
    A) I’m part of a well-regulated moo-lisha
    B) Zombie apocalypse is a’comin’
    C) I wish my dinkie-winkie was bigger

    ===
    Face it folks, any grown man who needs an AK-47 to go grocery shopping isn’t a patriot – he’s just a garden variety coward.

  142. Let’s see…. The suspect was a felon who possessed a gun. That is already illegal. We also have a law against murder. That didn’t stop the suspect either. Do you people really think more laws are going to prevent anything? No. It won’t. To think so is living in a pipe dream. Drugs are illegal, yet I can get them anytime I want. Bad things happen you can’t legislate bad people’s behavior. You can’t. Bad things happen. That’s why I carry a concealed gun but hope I never need it. But if I ever need it I’ll thank myself for carrying it religiously.

  143. Payton should stick to coaching, his ignorance about firearms and the process of purchasing them is astonishing. Buy 10 of them and have them shipped to his house tomorrow. Riiiight…

  144. (Legal) gun owner here. I think Sean is wanting to simply point out that in an already broken city like New Orleans, magically removing guns from the equation would benefit all. An unrealistic fairy tale, sure, but he’s not wrong.
    He has every right to hate guns.

  145. “Bottom line – too many Americans see their personal freedoms as more important than their social responsibilities.”

    —Yeah, that tends to happen if you live in a free Country. But until all the lowlifes, that could care less about being responsible citizens, (and are willing to kill you over a fender bender) are no longer around, I’ll keep my freedoms just the way they are.

  146. After the death of his cornerback, I suppose he wants to ban motorcycles too?

    That too was another senseless death!

  147. mrmcdougle says:
    Apr 12, 2016 11:12 AM
    illogicalvoicesinmyhead says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:31 AM
    I agree that it’s a culture problem, not a gun problem. It’s sickening when the anti-gun nuts seize on a tragedy to push their political agenda.

    ——-

    It’s almost as sickening as pro-gun nuts who turn a blind eye to tragedy, and measures that could lessen them, while succumbing to their own fearful nature. It’s no surprise that conservatism has a high correlation with being fearful.
    _______
    As a libertarian I wouldn’t know much about that, as I find both liberalism and conservatism to be too extreme. Thanks for proving that prejudice exists on both sides of the aisle, though.
    The solution is far more complex than trite slogans and self righteous indignation, from either side of the debate.

  148. There’s nothing wrong with guns just as there’s nothing wrong with knives. The difference in outcome is chosen by the person who wields one.

  149. He’s entitled to hate them under the same constitution that allows me to own them. BTW, the gun didn’t pull it’s own trigger

  150. steeltroll says:
    Apr 12, 2016 8:18 AM
    He should be free to express his opinion and those who disagree should be civilized enough to let him do so without animosity. Educated people are those who able seriously to consider positions they do not hold and which they find even abhorrent.

    Educated people can also determine the difference between an opinion, and a Constitutional Right. Just sayin’

  151. His point is that purchasing and owning a gun is easy. Nitpicking on semantics doesn’t change the fact that HE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Look at the murder rates in places like Canada, Australia, Germany, UK, etc where handguns are heavily regulated. But hey, maybe you’ll change your mind when it’s your dad, brother, or teenage kid.

  152. yooperman says:
    Apr 12, 2016 11:16 AM
    In Michigan’s UP there were 15 deaths on snowmobiles between Jan-March. Snowmobiles are way more dangerous than guns.

    ———————-

    And I can attest that close to 100% of households in the UP have at least one gun.

  153. All these bounty comments are idiotic at best… The man just lost one of his favorite players to guns and a city slowly slipping away by violence, cut him some slack already….sheesh

  154. Since Ive actually lived in some of the countries that have restrictive gun rights I can say that anyone who says the crime rates are lower are lying. There may be less gun violence but there is just as many murders plus double the robberies and muggings. A criminal is a criminal no matter what weapon they are carrying.

  155. Couple of things…

    First, for those of you that want to bring up the bounty situation, just a reminder that there was NO EVIDENCE of that ever happening. The players involved all had their suspensions lifted, and fines nullified. The penalty that SP received was an obvious “statement” by the NFL and was not appealed by the coaches for fear of further suspension, due to the coaches not having any sort of union to back them up.

    And more importantly, I own multiple guns for home defense, due to my living in New Orleans. Although it might not be as easy as SP described, the last gun I purchased less than a year ago, I bought online and had delivered to my FFL the following day. Granted I have a clean record, but the background check was a joke, took about 2 minutes. No psych counseling of any kind. I am totally in favor of stricter gun laws. It should not be as easy as it currently is to get one.

    Lastly, concerning the “if it wasn’t a gun, he would have used a knife or his car” argument, no one can argue that it is MUCH easier for a coward to pull a gun and shoot someone, than to go about “defending himself”in any other way. Introduce drugs, alcohol, or mental stability into the equation, and you start to see how it’s a bad idea for most people to have a gun on them, or in their car.

    I understand that even if guns are outlawed today, it will be at least 10 years or so (my own calculation, no scientific backing) before any real difference will be seen in the amount of illegal guns out on the streets, but something must be done, and penalties must be stiffer for reckless use. At a minimum, make sure anyone involved in improper use of a firearm never has legal access to one again. And in my mind, get these people off the streets for good. In this case, I’m in full support of “eye for an eye”. I know it would never happen, but how bout we shoot them exactly how they shot someone else, to see how that might change THEIR lives forever.

  156. The term… SHALL NOT be infringed, in the 2nd Amendment is legalese. It tells law makers and Judges they have No, Zero, Zilch authority to infringe on my Constitutional right to own and bear arms.

    The only legal way to restrict gun ownership is by appealing the 2nd Amendment. That process is spells out in the Constitution.

    Good luck on getting a Congress person to write that proposal up.😆
    Then you need 3/4 of the States to approve it. Then it takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate.

    Guns are here to stay!

  157. Coach if you hate guns so much why do you have an armed security detail at every game you coach?

    I smell a hypocrite.

    Don’t like guns don’t buy one.
    Don’t like to drink stay out of the bars
    Don’t like tattoos don’t get any.

    Land of the free , you get to do as you choose as long and you don’t break the law or infringe on others rights.

  158. “It was a large caliber gun. A .45. It was designed back during World War I. And this thing just stops people.”
    =================================

    The .45 Colt was developed in the 1870’s.

    The .45 ACP was developed in 1904.

    He ought to at least know what he’s talking about if he’s going to try to yap about something.

  159. I had a family member ( A small lady) who is only here today and was not raped do to having a EVIL GUN and CCW permit when a man already wanted for rape tried to kidnap her into his truck. She shot him once he survived and she was safe. If you think we should not have guns then when my family member is hurt you should be charged with the crime. God forbid you ever need to defend your self. I feel sorry for your un protected family

  160. Sean hates guns but he most certainly has never been hunting or had to procure his own food to feed his family, sans going to a grocery store and buying his dinner.

    The SECOND AMENDMENT protects the FIRST AMENDMENT.

    I hate the war on drugs, and not even 40 years after its inceptions=== Majority of Citizens will tell how detrimental to the Country that War has been. Still, no sweeping changes have been made on that front. Even when the majority of States have declared Marijuana LEGAL – the FED stills sees it as a Schedule I DRUG. A Plant that grows from the dirt that you and I walk on.

  161. I hate Vicodin abuse.

    I hate bounties paid to injure players.

    I hate people that fail to understand that without the quintessential right to defend ourselves, our very right to exist – then all our other rights become meaningless.

    Sean Payton claims if the Foundesr were alive today, they would detest the current gun culture and laws.

    That’s akin to saying – if the Founders were alive today, they would detest vapid reality TV, and likely be in favor of censorship on the internet and elsewhere.

    Sorry buddy, the Found Fathers were far more prescient than that,

    Inherent rights are inherent for a reason – the right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, personal property, and the protection of all of the above – it doesn’t get much more basic and fundamental than that, does it?

    Besides, can you imagine living in a totalitarian world where only cops, security and military could possesses guns and maintain a monopoly on violence? (Not to mention unthinkable contingencies: foreign invasions, aliens, etc.) Such potential slavery makes me shudder, and it should make any thinking man shudder too.

    Without the 2nd Amendment, none of the other would be possible – and we’d be wise not to forget that any time soon, or ever.

  162. People often forget the part that comes before the right to keep and bear arms……is a well regulated militia.

    Not anarchy

  163. someone above said:

    “One simple question in rebuttal, what is the sole purpose of a gun? Now don’t tell me what else it can be used for. What is it’s sole purpose? I have thought long and hard on that question and it’s to maim or kill. Something to provide lethal harm to something else.”

    My response:
    I have owned a gun(s) for over two decades, and never once, have I aimed it another human being.
    Thank God.

  164. eljefedelmundo says:
    Apr 12, 2016 8:43 AM
    You need someone willing to kill AND a gun.

    Which of those two is easier to regulate?

    —-

    Which of those two is an inalienable Constitutional right?

  165. In Aurora, CO it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon, discharge a weapon unless on range, and have a loaded weapon.

    These laws made it easy for James Holmes to walk into a movie theater, kill 12 people, and injure 50 more.

  166. “These laws made it easy for James Holmes to walk into a movie theater, kill 12 people, and injure 50 more.”

    It is much easier to have a patsy, yes, this is true.

  167. conormacleod says:
    Apr 12, 2016 9:41 AM
    The stories of somebody saving heir own life, or that of a loved one, because he was carrying a gun, are few and far between.

    —————————————-

    I’ve been involved in two such incidents and I live in an upper-middle class neighborhood. No shots were fired in either case, but the presence of a firearm was enough to save myself and my family. That’s all I need to know.

  168. gotdebttoo says:
    Apr 13, 2016 12:49 PM
    People often forget the part that comes before the right to keep and bear arms……is a well regulated militia.
    ———————————–

    People often forget that the term “well-regulated” had a very different meaning in the 18th century.

  169. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. But people with guns kill people, right? But people who kill people with guns, kill people with guns until they are stopped by other people with guns. That’s the thing the anti-gun people miss.

    It’s a basic fact that there are good people with guns and bad people with guns. Anti-gun types ignore this distinction, and blame gun violence on guns in general. The problem is the measure they want to take to eliminate guns just increases the ratio of bad people with guns. That’s not a good thing.

    To put it another way:
    Person killing people with a gun = Bad.
    Stopping a person from killing people with a gun = Good. However, it usually takes a gun to make that happen.

  170. I often wonder what our forefathers would have thought about the 2nd amendment if they could see all the carnage that occurs for no apparent reason today. Remember during their time, people used one shot muskets that required about 15 minutes to re-load.
    They could not possibly have envisioned this age of 9mm, uzis, ak-47s and multiple shot weapons intended for military use winding up in the hands of idiots out of control.
    I still believe Sean Payton is right and for humanity’s sake, we must do something to stop this lunacy. It makes no sense to see day after day someone getting killed over dumb reasons.

  171. I often wonder what our forefathers would have thought about the 2nd amendment if they could see all the carnage that occurs for no apparent reason today. Remember during their time, people used one shot muskets that required about 15 minutes to re-load.
    They could not possibly have envisioned this age of 9mm, uzis, ak-47s and multiple shot weapons intended for military use winding up in the hands of idiots out of control.
    ——————————

    I often wonder what our forefathers would have thought about the 1st amendment if they could see all the idiocy that is published for no apparent reason today. Remember during their time, people used printing presses where the typeface was set manually.
    They could not possibly have envisioned this age of radio, television, computers intended for educational use winding up in the hands of idiots out of control.
    I still believe George Carlin is right and for humanity’s sake, we must do something to stop this lunacy. It makes no sense to see day after day someone getting their feelings hurt over dumb reasons.

  172. I just wish there was an IQ test or something that kept guns out of the hands of people that can’t mentally handle it…whatever that means.

    I just want a guy with a gun to be able to THINK about what is happening instead of just reacting emotionally like a child.

  173. I hate it when guns jump out of display cases on their own, cruise around town, and randomly take shots at people.

    Interesting to note that Coach had nothing to say about the degenerate that used the gun.

  174. oy vey…you cannot walk off the street in any state and just buy a gun, despite the numerous answers some have found on Google.

    Yes 13 states have background checks and those that don’t, by law have to use the Brady Law (psst…this means an FBI criminal background check) for gun purchases made to non-licenced or licenced consumers.

    You must have a FFL to sell a handgun at gun store and at a gun show you must have a FFL either as a seller or if out of state you have to ship to FFL receiver. You cannot purchase a handgun from a gun show from a FFL dealer if you do not also reside in the same state hosting the gun show or gun store.

    lastly, all gun deals have to start or finish with FFL dealer and the idea that a dealer is going to risk prison or a large fine by not following the rules in plane stupid.

    The ATF conducts record audits of all FFL dealers routinely and if you’re a poor keeper of records, then selling guns is not a good business.

  175. Great job Coach!!
    Showing what a true leader you are.
    Leaders are not afraid of the pansies of the Not Real Americans corporation.

  176. I HAVE A STRONG DIS-LIKE FOR UNINFORMED CHEATING LIAR’S LIKE PEYTON. MUST BE TRING TO COVER HIS ILEGAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION ISSUES!

  177. Meanwhile another 100 people are dying each day due to gun violence. Carry on with your 2nd Amendment takes and just watch the innocent fall. Only in America.

  178. thegonz13 says:
    Apr 12, 2016 8:23 AM

    The truth of the matter is that guns are a major problem in the U.S. Say what you will about “guns don’t kill people”-and thumbs down and name-calling will start dropping as soon as I hit “Enter”- but there are way too many armed dumbasses, simpletons and nutcases on the loose.

    There is something to be said, and not necessarily positive, about a country that has more guns in circulation that it has citizens.

    And please spare the right to bear arms shtick, OK? That was over two centuries ago and I’m pretty sure if the forefathers knew people would be killing each other left and right for no valid reason while invoking the right to bear arms 200-some years later, they would have left that little part out.
    __________________________
    Thank You! Well stated. I own a shotgun for hunting, a 22 for keeping my aim straight, and a deer rifle and pistol for just in case. That said, I keep them locked up, quiet, and only because I have little faith in what mankind is becoming. While gun companies keep producing guns and ammo, they do nothing to educate. Oh, that’s the people’s job? Good luck with that. People are idiots. An unfavorable outcome is inevitable.

  179. Despite all of our guns, according to UNODC, USA is ranked 91st in world in intentional homicide. If you consider the “elephant in the room” that nobody wants to talk about (urban violence/gang bangers) for fear of being called racist by the PC police- USA would drop almost to bottom of the list.

  180. I often wonder what our forefathers would have thought about the 2nd amendment if they could see all the carnage that occurs for no apparent reason today. Remember during their time, people used one shot muskets that required about 15 minutes to re-load.
    They could not possibly have envisioned this age of 9mm, uzis, ak-47s and multiple shot weapons intended for military use winding up in the hands of idiots out of control.
    ————————————————

    The same can be said for lots of things as the world has changed: Two examples- 1) more powerful drugs, do we ban them so those that need them can’t get them for fear of those who would abuse them? 2) internet/cell ph tech. – do we ban either because predators have snatched, raped, kidnapped and killed kids using this…. Terrorists have plotted terror attacks that killed far more easily and widespread than a guy with handgun.

    The only answer in any of the above, including guns is to focus on and punish the CRIMINALS who will ALWAYS break the law, not themajority of millions who are responsible people.

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