Urban Meyer says patience will be key for Cardale Jones’ next team

AP

At a time when the NFL is becoming increasingly impatient with its quarterbacks, the man who coached one of this year’s quarterback prospects is suggesting the exact opposite.

Via Marla Ridenour of the Akron Beacon Journal, Ohio State coach Urban Meyer said that the team that takes Cardale Jones will need to be willing to take their time.

“I think there’s going to have to be patience, an excellent quarterback coach that’s going to have to earn his trust,” Meyer said. “There’s going to have to be a great relationship there; he’s a relationship-type guy. He and [former OSU offensive coordinator] Tom Herman were very close and that took three years.

“It’s going to be dictated by the team that takes him, the amount of patience and the relationship he develops with the quarterback coach.”

While not overtly negative in tone or content regarding Jones, Meyer’s words send a message that could make plenty of teams without the luxury of patience scratch the player’s name from their draft board. And that wasn’t the only passive-aggressive commentary from the man who won a national championship thanks in large part to Jones’ performance.

“A really good skill set, intellectual, very smart, wasn’t necessarily very good at school,” Meyer said of Jones. “I wonder if that kind of set him back a little bit. That’s one difference between pro and college — now he doesn’t have to worry about classes and going to school and all that stuff. He can focus completely on football.”

Right, but part of focusing completely on football includes having the ability to, you know, focus completely on football. And everything that goes along with that at the NFL level. Studying film. Mastering a playbook. Putting in the work necessary to connect the dots and get it done in real time.

“I think he’s a very sharp person. He loves football,” Meyer said. “Discipline will be big — when I say do the right thing, the best quarterbacks are complete students of the game and that’s all they do.

“The quarterbacks that weren’t — we’ve witnessed a couple tough situations in the NFL the last couple years — are the ones that are all over the place, more worried about social stuff going on and they fail. This will be big. How he attacks this opportunity is going to be key.”

The candid assessment may indeed be accurate, but Jones probably would prefer that it be communicated privately and not publicly. Since Jones didn’t earn a dime (and Meyer earned thousands of them) based on Jones’ efforts, the least Meyer could do is save the pep talks for phone calls and text messages to the player and confine his remarks to the media to the say-something-while-saying-nothing content that so many coaches have mastered when discussing matters of direct relevance to their team.

“Whoever drafts him will have to have a little bit of patience,” Meyer said. “The unfortunate thing in the NFL: There’s not a whole lot of patience.”

The unfortunate thing in college football: There’s not a whole lot of loyalty.

63 responses to “Urban Meyer says patience will be key for Cardale Jones’ next team

  1. “The unfortunate thing in college football: There’s not a whole lot of loyalty.”

    In the case Jonesand Meyer that appears to work in both directions

  2. jag1959 says:
    Apr 17, 2016 1:24 PM
    “The unfortunate thing in college football: There’s not a whole lot of loyalty.”

    In the case of Jones and Meyer that appears to work in both directions

  3. The pros can only have so much patience while the clock ticks on his contract.

  4. It’s obvious that if Cardale Jones were at Army or Navy, an evaluation like Meyer said would not be necessary.

  5. I’m not a big college football fan, but i do watch the Buckeyes since i live in columbus.

    Cardale Jones will never be a good QB. He doesnt have the mental makeup to make it in the league. All he has is a big arm. He isn’t a leader, and he’s the type of guy that will have a breakdown if he is on a losing team.

  6. So what you’re saying is “How dare he give a candid assessment, rather than play the coachspeak game that we all constantly complain about!”

    Sheesh….the nerve of that Meyer guy. It’s almost as if someone asked him a question about one of his former players or something, and then he had to go and answer it! Outrageous….

  7. Cardale Jones seems like a perfect prospect for Norv Turner and his offense. He and “12 Guage” will put a lot of pressure on defenses downfield.

  8. Translated………The Cleveland Browns, Chicago Bears, or Arizona Cardinals will probably draft him in the 3rd or 4th round. Same time frame as Joe Montana and Russell Wilson. They will develop him. And force great study habits upon him. Arians is simply one of the best at this. Then they will likely shine as a team as this potential great prospect blossoms into one of the NFL great ones. IMO Cardelle Jones is hands down the best QB prospect in this draft. I say look at the tape of this stud. Rising at every big moment thrown at him in college. At one of the toughest programs. And on the biggest stages. He shined bright. WHile teasing us with an unbelievable versatile skillset. Brains, brawn/size, speed, canon arm with silky touch, and NFL quality read regiment. Were I the Cleveland Browns, I’d grab one of his teammates in the first round (Elliot or Bosa). And trade out of that #2 pick to harness 2 #2 round picks. And snatch this guy fast. Before the rush for him starts in the 3rd round.

    IMO Goff, Wentz, Hacklenburg and none of the other QBs are on the same planet as this guy. Just compare his strengths with theirs. His schedule with theirs. And his record with theirs. Cardale Jones is the top QB prospect in this draft. And I think Urban Meyer helped him a ton with those comments. Because the only thing that can stop him is attitude and social media/lifestyle. He solve those challenges like Russell Wilson, along with a coach & organization dedicated to developing him. And I say look out! The steal of the 2016 NFL draft in everyone’s rear view mirror.

  9. I have mixed feelings about Cardale. The way he played in the three games in 2014 was absolutely incredible. However, the Cardale that shared QB duties with J.T. Barrett was pretty awful. All of a sudden it seemed like he couldn’t throw a screen pass. I’m not sure what happened but losing Tom Herman to Houston shouldn’t have made that much of a difference.

    Add to that his penchant for not being shy about saying what he thinks would concern me if I were a GM. He didn’t like the rules at Fork Union (he left in the middle of the year) and made more dumb comments when he was at OSU. He can be a likable guy and he’s easy to root for given where he came from but it sure seemed to me that he digressed in 2015.

    He’s a big guy and it’s fun to watch him run because you know those DBs do NOT want to tackle him because he’s just huge. He’s got a big arm and he can throw. If he can fix whatever happened to him in the 2015 season he has a chance to make it in the NFL. If some team drafts him and he turns out to be the 2015 version of Cardale, he won’t make the roster cut.

  10. First, we could do without the left handed commentary about paying players that is a non starter without reconciling Title IX as there won’t be an agreement with the female bloc on campuses in the current victimhood environment.
    Second, if this guy is that much of a project, he’s done as a QB. Sounds more like a piece of unquarried marble than a sculpted piece in need of some detail work and sanding. (Insert the old ‘ain’t nobody got time for that’ meme here.)
    Last, you can’t have it both ways. Maybe it’s easier for sports writers to have a coach say nothing and put words into his mouth, but it’s refreshing to see a little candor in a sea of canned responses.

  11. Wow, Urban blew him up. What happened to “if you can’t say anything nice about your guy, don’t say anything at a all.”

  12. Gotta love how his former coach says that the coach/qb coach of the team that drafts him is going to have to earn his trust. What team in their right mind would draft someone with the expectation that they will have to earn the players trust. A team shows enough trust in a player if they use a draft pick on them – after that it’s up to the player to prove he was worth the pick. If the player does not show any sort of willingness to learn, be assertive in improving his skill set than that’s on the player. Sorry urban and cardale but once you are in the NFL it’s on you to make it work – not on coaches to baby you and treat you nicely to become your friend so you trust them.

  13. Meyer is saying that a team who might pick Jones is going to have to teach him to be a quarterback and a leader.

    Jones is not an NFL quarterback. He played in a few games and people give him all the credit for whatever reason. When a college team can start 3 different quarterbacks and still manage a championship, it is not the quarterback that is causing the team to win.

    Only a foolish team would pick Jones. Funny thing is, last year guys were on here talking about him being the number one overall pick or a high first rounder. After 3-4 college appearances?. To think that way requires very little knowledge about football. I assume these folks are the same people who think Kaeprnick is elite even though he was benched n favor of Blaine Gabbert. How many people think Trent Dilfer was elite? He has a super bowl ring. He never got credit for leading his team to glory. Why? Because he wasn’t a very good quarterback.

  14. “Wasn’t necessarily very good at school”
    ===============

    So how did Cardale get into OSU then? All their alums claim it’s a great school and tough to get into. OSU sold its integrity when it hired a scumbag coach like Meyer. Look at what he did inflicting the student population and city with the criminals he brought in. People were raped, beaten, robbed, assaulted, and murdered at the hands of Urban’s army of mercenaries. They definitively weren’t students

  15. The candid assessment may indeed be accurate, but Jones probably would prefer that it be communicated privately and not publicly. Since Jones didn’t earn a dime (and Meyer earned thousands of them) based on Jones’ efforts, the least Meyer could do is save the pep talks for phone calls and text messages to the player and confine his remarks to the media to the say-something-while-saying-nothing content that so many coaches have mastered when discussing matters of direct relevance to their team.

    vvvvvvvv

    Meyer did nothing wrong. He said what he thinks and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Too damned many PC people in this world as it is. It’s refreshing to see someone like Meyer.

  16. Cardale Jones: We aint come here to play school, classes are pointless

    That’s all it took for me to know this kid is a rock head and will never get it. Typical of overrated state university players

  17. I actually don’t mind this. He is doing the same thing Spurrier did with Clowney. As a 3rd rounder with lower expectations, he would develop. If someone expects Jones to be a franchise QB immediately, they are sadly mistaken. Jones will make more money in the long run going on day 3 and learning, than going on day one and flaming out.

  18. Same time frame as Joe Montana and Russell Wilson. They will develop him. And force great study habits upon him
    ==========================
    Uh, Wilson started in the pre-season of his rookie year and every regular season game since.

  19. “Since Jones didn’t earn a dime (and Meyer earned thousands of them) based on Jones’ efforts….”

    STOP IT! Just stop it already. The kid got a free education and didn’t have to work at Subway to pay his way through college.

    There is no doubt the NCAA needs to change. But Title IV makes it prohibitive for football players to get anything more than the backup catcher for the softball team gets. So just stop daily the exploded college kid rhetoric already.

  20. bigbamboom1 says:
    Apr 17, 2016 1:42 PM
    They will develop him. And force great study habits upon him. Arians is simply one of the best at this.
    —————————

    Arians is a good coach but what exactly is that statement based on? What QB has he groomed over time at the NFL level? QB coach at Indy when they drafted Manning, Browns OC, Steelers OC with an established Roethlisberger, OC at Indy with an established Luck and HC of AZ with veteran Palmer. Who exactly has he brought along?

  21. Reading between Meyers lines, Jones will win a Superbowl. It just won’t happen this year. Maybe three. That’s high praise from that coach.

  22. The dude is inaccurate. His nickname is shotgun, which is a terribly inaccurate weapon. Aptly named. He should move to another position or be an undrafted free agent.

  23. Meyer isn’t addressing anything but reality for the majority of draft picks at any position. Most of the players will get drafted based on their raw talent however that will only get you “IN” to the league. In order to “STAY” Cardale will have to develop intense study habits. Think of someone like Drew Brees who didn’t have the QB measurables but with “intense” studying has become a top tier QB. Cardale should approach the game the same way and forget about his significant skill set and focus on becoming a real student of the game. If so, he’ll be alright, if not then he could become the next Jamarcus Russell??!!! Regardless, he’s getting his wish to get paid and if he wants that to continue will have to put on his “Big-Boy” pants. No Excuses now…………….

  24. Personally, I hope that Belichick has stopped listening to Meyer, but several sources have connected CJones to the Patriots. Brady doesn’t look to be going anywhere for a while, and he’ll probably want to play beyond the next 2 yrs, when Garappolo’s rookie contract runs out.

  25. I just finished reading an article in Sports Illustrated, written by Cardale Jones himself. The most shocking comment in the article was about what he learned out in San Diego in Feb of this year at the QB camp run by George Whitfield. Cardale said “George was shocked that after my years playing QB at Glenville and another 3 years at OSU, none of my QB coaches had taught me to place my fingers on the laces to throw a football”. He said, “all these years, I had never used the laces”. That’s just insane.
    It reminded me of when Art Schlicter was being drafted and the QB coach of the Packers noticed that Art was taking the snap and while he was dropping back, he had to keep spinning the ball in his hand until he found the laces before throwing. OSU’s center was doing the snapping during the drills that day, and the QB coach asked him, “son, haven’t your coaches ever taught you how to snap the ball so that the laces will arrive perfectly aligned on every snap?”.
    I’m a huge Buckeye fan, but it is just amazing that talented players can spend 3 and 4 years in that program and not be taught the mere basics of the passing game that many of us were taught by coaches back in the 6th & 7th grade.
    These kids are getting by on sheer talent and the talent around them. Now I understand why Terrelle Pryor couldn’t complete routine 12-yd tosses during warm-ups on the sideline. I watched him once and one toss would sail over the WRs head and the next would bounce in the dirt. Unbelievable to me, because most of us had mastered this muscle memory as kids by throwing thousands of balls in the backyard.
    Amazing but true. I’ll never understand it. Go Bucks.

  26. I wouldn’t waste a pick on him. Meyer is basically saying a team would have to teach Jones to play the position. Jones will never make it in the league. Quarterbacks are generally intelligent. Sounds like Jones couldn’t pass easy college classes.

  27. i thought myer praised more than punished the kid,his assessment was spot on and I think without bias,unlike the dude who wrote this piece

  28. granadafan says:
    Apr 17, 2016 2:06 PM

    “Wasn’t necessarily very good at school”
    ===============

    So how did Cardale get into OSU then? All their alums claim it’s a great school and tough to get into. OSU sold its integrity when it hired a scumbag coach like Meyer. Look at what he did inflicting the student population and city with the criminals he brought in. People were raped, beaten, robbed, assaulted, and murdered at the hands of Urban’s army of mercenaries. They definitively weren’t students

    Are you talking about when Meyer was at UF? I don’t recall hearing any incidents of this since he’s been in Columbus. You would be correct if you were referring to Gainesville but not Columbus.

  29. sparty0n says:
    Apr 17, 2016 2:36 PM
    “Since Jones didn’t earn a dime (and Meyer earned thousands of them) based on Jones’ efforts….”

    STOP IT! Just stop it already. The kid got a free education and didn’t have to work at Subway to pay his way through college.

    There is no doubt the NCAA needs to change. But Title IV makes it prohibitive for football players to get anything more than the backup catcher for the softball team gets. So just stop daily the exploded college kid rhetoric already.

    _____________________________

    You obviously missed the writers point. These coaches pwe nothing to the NFL and everything to their players. Urban Meyer claimed he prayed every day with Aaron Hernandez and he was a redeemed person after he helped cover up Hernandez’s shooting someone in the face with both Pouncey twins and Reggie Nelson being named at the scene.

    So yea, if Meyer can go out of his way to fluff up multiple murderer Hernandez, he can definitely pipe down about Cardale who really went out there and won a shootout with Bama to bring him a national championship. That’s the least you can do for your players. You’re not tied to their teams livelihood or success. You’re suppose to get your players drafted.

    Not like Meyer could ever hang in a system where you have to respect players anyway.

  30. Meyer is telling the truth. Anyone can see the physical talent of this kid. The only questions is mental. It was the same deal with a couple other Meyer QBs, Alex Smith and Tim Tebow. Meyer even said it would take Alex Smith a while to pick up the system, but once he did, he’d be ok. And Alex Smith is off the charts intelligent. Smith never turned into a great QB, but at least he’s a decent game manager. Cardale Jones has way more arm talent than Smith. I’d listen to Meyer. Maybe a good pick for the Saints or Cowboys. Teams with veteran QBs who have a couple more years left, and Jones can sit and learn. Might even be a good pick for the Browns in round three.

  31. JaminJake says:
    Apr 17, 2016 5:53 PM

    sparty0n says:
    Apr 17, 2016 2:36 PM
    “Since Jones didn’t earn a dime (and Meyer earned thousands of them) based on Jones’ efforts….”

    STOP IT! Just stop it already. The kid got a free education and didn’t have to work at Subway to pay his way through college.

    There is no doubt the NCAA needs to change. But Title IX makes it prohibitive for football players to get anything more than the backup catcher for the softball team gets. So just stop daily the exploded college kid rhetoric already.

    _____________________________

    You obviously missed the writers point. These coaches pwe nothing to the NFL and everything to their players. Urban Meyer claimed he prayed every day with Aaron Hernandez and he was a redeemed person after he helped cover up Hernandez’s shooting someone in the face with both Pouncey twins and Reggie Nelson being named at the scene.

    So yea, if Meyer can go out of his way to fluff up multiple murderer Hernandez, he can definitely pipe down about Cardale who really went out there and won a shootout with Bama to bring him a national championship. That’s the least you can do for your players. You’re not tied to their teams livelihood or success. You’re suppose to get your players drafted.

    Not like Meyer could ever hang in a system where you have to respect players anyway.

    ____________________________________

    I didn’t miss the point. You missed my point. I’ve been reading PFT long before the Ron Mexico days, when Florio was using an AOL account, and the personal attacks on Florio from ignorant fools on here annoy me.

    However, lately it seems every mention of college football on PFT has to include some commentary about the fact that college football players do not get compensated with cash. I was simply pointing out that its getting old.

    Edit: Title IX

  32. kickinpuppies says:

    Can get a wonderlic leak on this guy?
    ==============================

    He got a -5

  33. Cardale Jones is on the same level of development as Jake Coker from Alabama. They will both be a project for whatever team that takes a chance on them. I don’t see anything wrong with what Meyer said.

  34. acerockefellar says:
    Apr 17, 2016 1:34 PM

    Cardale Jones will never be a good QB. He doesnt have the mental makeup to make it in the league. All he has is a big arm. He isn’t a leader, and he’s the type of guy that will have a breakdown if he is on a losing team.

    So, he’s Cam Newton?

  35. Cardale is a big cry baby when things don’t go his way. He’ll never make it far in the league with the attitude he exhibits.

  36. Serious question:

    What college QB that Urban coached has become a great QB in the NFL?

    Took Alex Smith 7 years and the current UM coach to make him look decent.

  37. It’s not Urban’s job to prepare his QBs for the NFL. His job is to win at the college level, which is why he runs his QBs at least 18-22 times a game, EVERY game. Over the course of a season, his QBs have always taken a brutal beating (Braxton & JT both suffered serious injuries).
    If Urban wanted to prepare his QBs for the NFL, he wouldn’t line up in the spread … he would start throwing passes to the TEs and screens to the RBs, which never happens under Urban. He always has NFL talent at TE, but rarely gives them a sniff. It’s not his job to develop NFL careers. He wins doing it his way, which is to out-recruit the other coaches in the B1G and let the talent beat down the other team.
    Unfortunately, when Sparty can keep the game close, you’ve seen Urban go into frenzy-mode on the sidelines where he loses his composure, which affects his play-calling. Afterwards, he apologizes to the team for “messing it up out there for my guys … the play calling was awful … we should’ve run Zeke all day, I had no idea he only touched the ball once the entire 2nd half, are you kidding me?”.

  38. Living near Columbus and I watched all of the games that Jones played in and yes Urban is right a team will need patience with him. Sure he has the physical tools but I question his mental makeup and the fact that Urban’s offense isn’t exactly the type of offense that churns out NFL ready QB’s.
    If you watched Jones he was great at the deep ball, has a unbelievably strong arm, but he can be erratic in the timing routes.

  39. So the take-away for all potential 4 and 5 star high school recruits is–don’t select Ohio State, the coach will throw you under the bus.

  40. puckthafatriots**** says:
    Apr 17, 2016 1:30 PM
    Typical punk move by the Urb.
    ——————————————————————-
    Urban Meyers is a snake oil salesman. He’s the same guy who jumped up and suddenly left Florida, supposedly for his health & to be with his family but then ran to Ohio St.

  41. It will take a long, long, long time for him to be an NFL QB, if ever! Wasted pick for any team to take him unless he moves to a new position!

  42. Jones played around 10 games at OSU.

    So yes, it is imperitive that he is surrounded by a talented coaching staff that will teach him the right way.

    With that big arm of his, I would love to see the Cardinals take him.

    Bruce Arians and that staff will be a great place for Cardalle to learn.

    It will be up to Cardalle to put the work in and determine if he will be successful. He has the physical tools to be a legit NFL QB.

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