Panthers have no plan to try to re-sign Josh Norman on the open market

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The decision to rescind the franchise tag from cornerback Josh Norman could be viewed as a ploy by the Panthers to sign him to a long-term deal based on the current market for his services, since the current market for the services of a 28-year-old cornerback (29 in December) may be a lot less than what his $13.95 million tender would have paid in 2016.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, however, Carolina’s plan — as reflected by G.M. Dave Gettleman wishing Norman well in the statement announcing the move — is to not re-sign Norman.

Of course, that could change if/when Norman learns that the open market in late April has placed a much lower value on him than what the Panthers had offered. This assumes that the Panthers would still be willing to pay Norman what they would have paid before the removal of the tag.

After today, the Panthers probably won’t be willing to put the same offer on the table, especially if no one else is willing to come close to it. And the reality is that, now that teams like the Giants have exhausted the budget on players like cornerback Janoris Jenkins, Norman will have a hard time getting an offer in the same ballpark as what he would have gotten if he’d been available in early March.

It’s easy to blame the Panthers for putting Norman in a bad spot. But he could have prevented this from happening by signing the tender. He chose not to.

93 responses to “Panthers have no plan to try to re-sign Josh Norman on the open market

  1. Keep cheering it on though, haters. When all of the athletic players go to basketball and baseball where they pay their talent and you’re watching this mess erode even more than how bad it has been the last few years, you’ll wish the players were taken care of. The NFL got rid of the rookie mega deals and promised to take care of all of those vets. Instead, only a handful get paid now after their rookie deals and the rest get royally screwed since the average NFL player’s career is 3.5 years. Hey, but we all love the free market until we get jealous of somebody making a lot of money on it that we don’t have the ability to make.

  2. Norman is getting everything he deserves and he can’t blame the Panthers. He had one good year as a system CB and touted himself as the best CB in the NFL (which is laughable) based off of one freakin’ year. There are no less than 6-7 better CB’s in the league. I don’t blame him for trying to milk it for all he could get but the Panthers not only called his bluff, they rubbed a little salt in it too by waiting until after all the FA money was spent to release him. Needless to say, Norman isn’t a very good poker player.

  3. Question: Did the panthers put him in a bad spot, or did his attitude put him in a bad spot? Sometime your mouth can override your true ability. One year does not make him worth that much.

  4. We all like and appreciate the services Josh Norman provided. Let’s not be bitter and start saying he is not worth the $$$. He is one of the best, but if Gettlemen does not want to pay what Norman wants, then move on. If Norman comes back, ill welcome him back all the same.

  5. This has worked out pretty well for Josh Norman:

    A: Make multi-millions playing for his home team the Panthers

    B: Make multi-millions playing for a team other than the Panthers

    A win-win for Josh, he wants to play in California and if that doesent work out he can literally go to the highest bidder.

    Must be nice to be Joshua Norman.

  6. Seattle has a little money. Marshawn is still counting against their cap. Josh could lineup opposite Sherman. A one year deal would work for both sides.

  7. .
    Gettleman marches to his own drum, but he’s fearless and has a track record of success.
    .

  8. Who ever is saying he should’ve signed is moronic. How could his value been any higher than what it is tight now? Learn economics….

  9. @ realfootballfan says: Apr 20, 2016 7:42 PM

    … When all of the athletic players go to basketball and baseball where they pay their talent and you’re watching this mess erode even more than how bad it has been the last few years, you’ll wish the players were taken care of.
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    Ok, so if they want to go to MLB or NBA…have at it. Apart from the issue you will have with your skills not transferring well to another sport…there are only 446 NBA players & 224 MLB players where as the NFL has 1696 players. The NFL has over a THOUSAND more players then the NBA & MLB do combined. You are an absolute idiot if you think the NFL is at risk of you choosing a different career path.

  10. I also love the “he’s a 1-year wonder” dummies. Guess you must not watch too much football because he was pretty good in 2014 too. He definitely fit their system, but so does Richard Sherman fit the Seahawks. That doesn’t mean he’s not good at his job. Let’s dance though. Another good player isn’t getting paid. That makes you happy exactly why?

  11. ctiggs, 29-30 is right about when hard, physical guys like secondary and power runners hit the brick wall and motivation plummets along with production.

    Unfortunately, it’s all too often right after signing a monster deal with fat bonus. Turning up your nose to a guaranteed $13M for one year’s work at the age of 29 doesn’t speak to intellgence or logic no matter what someone’s occupation or financial status.

  12. Josh screwed himself. Coulda made almost $14mil this year and proven himself to be “elite.” We would’ve payed him for his worth if he had another fantastic season.

    Lots of people forget that he was pulled from the starting lineup year before last bc of inconsistencies.

    He was being overpaid with the franchise tag, but refused to be a team player. Didn’t help his own cause by refusing to sign his tender, and also not show up for voluntary workouts.

    Josh Norman is his own worst enemy. I’ll miss him for what he was being paid last year, but not for what he was demanding for the future (without proving himself).

    I don’t play ball Josh, but I watched you get burned alive by Odell (who should’ve been ejected before he had the chance to) and Julio in the second ATL game.

    You’re NOT the best thing since sliced bread. You’re barely a loaf of bread. Athletes like you are a dime a dozen that have breakout years. Look at Greg Hardy’s inflated states from the last 4 games of ’13.

    Best of luck Josh, but no love lost from this Panthers fan.

  13. I personally hope he dumps the Panthers. If he really wants to rub it in their face he’ll take less money to play for the Broncos.

    Lots of teams need a shut down corner. Someone will make this happen.

  14. boogerhut says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:38 PM
    Hear that Von?

    _________________

    Only difference is Von is the best at his position and just won a Super Bowl for Denver with his strip TD and then strip for Anderson touchdown.

  15. Maybe if he had shown consistency he wouldn’t be in this situation. He had one good season. He wants Revis money? Play like Revis. He hasn’t and does not deserve the cash.

  16. He wanted $19M. Even his agent tried to talk him down. If anyone wants to pay him that kind of money, I say have at it….and good luck!

  17. wjmoffat, Norman is about to learn a little something about economics, much like a few other currently unemployed NFL players.

    To varying extents, Vin Miller, Josh Gordon and Manziel are about to take on some economics lessons also.

    Kam Chancellor on my Seahawks took the course last season; unfortunately he was a slow learner and his remedial time cost us a lot, too.

  18. I will be surprised if he gets anywhere close to 14M for this coming season, which he passed on by not signing. That was fully guaranteed, too.

    I bet he finds an interested market, but restricted in big time offers and ends up banking on himself and get a one year deal done and do it all again next year.

  19. tmcb7 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:53 PM
    Something tells me that the Panthers know something everyone else does not.
    It will come out eventually.

    ——-

    Agreed. Something happened.

  20. Norman would’ve been a good match for a team like the Raiders. Strong, young unit with a bunch of cash. Dunno if they can afford him anymore.

    My bet is on the Jags. One of the only few teams left that can afford him. (Chi, Jax, NY, SF, Cle, Ten)

  21. handsofsteelhartofstone says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:50 PM
    There are not 6 or 7 better CB’s in the league.
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    You’re right, there are more like 12 or 13 better.

  22. I love Josh and wish him nothing but the best. Truth is, he’ll turn 29 this season and this will be the only major contract he’ll get and he knows that. It’s too bad because he’s losing a band of brothers on arguably one of the best teams in football. I wish you well, Josh.

  23. An average CB who was able to muster one above average season in his four year career and expects to get paid like the best CB in the league? Boy is delusional. Glad to see the Panthers use restraint and kick him to the curb.

  24. Why would Josh want to play with a QB who is afraid to even try and recover his own fumble with the SB on the line? Why would any player?

  25. He might be this year’s Asomugha. Nnamdi was good for the Raiders, a total bust for the Eagles.
    Norman really isn’t that great. He’s a system guy. Like Nnamdi.
    Whoever signs him will see that.
    He’s not a stand alone shutdown corner by any stretch.

  26. Hes self proclaimed top 5 all time, the best part is if teams decide not the break he’ll have to do a 1 year prove it deal instead of taking less money on a long term. The 1 yr prove it will be less than the franchise tag

  27. 6ball says:
    Apr 20, 2016 8:01 PM
    .
    Gettleman marches to his own drum, but he’s fearless and has a track record of success

    Track record? Cupcake schedule followed by a loss on the biggest stage. Yeah, that’s a track record.

  28. I can hear Richard Sherman commenting that this Norman situation is EXACTLY why so many players want to play for the Seahawks. The entire organization from the owner, to FO, to coaching staff and to the players…they all treat each other with honesty and respect. None of this “Me, me, me” stuff. It won’t fly.

    The organization has two rules for players. 1. Compete everyday. 2. Be yourself.

    The players have two rules for the organization. 1. Be honest. 2. Respect me.

    It seems to work pretty well.

  29. goutch225 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:47 PM
    49ers still need a corner and have $50+ Million to spend.

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    Yeah, but its the 49ers lololol

  30. Belichickesque move right there. Gettleman is taking cues from the master.

    With Hardy cut and gone with Norman, they probably got rid of their immaturity and cancerous “leaders” in the locker room.

    Again, good move by Gettleman. Keep your leverage as a GM and don’t lose it, otherwise you;ll lose your job as a GM.

  31. Josh has only made $2.9 mil. in 5 years, don’t blame him for pushing for more. Jenoris Jenkins got PAID and he’s never sniffed a year like Norman had.

  32. All this means is that now fans of other teams can’t use Josh Norman as an excuse to project their own insecurities and hate onto the Panthers. Guess you guys will have to come up with some new fake issues to get offended by. I have faith.

  33. The Panthers haven’t put Norman in a bad spot. He’s not in a bad spot, at all. Just wait.

  34. Huge ego and a small mind to match with one good season under his belt. No player is irreplaceable and Gettleman made that very clear today.

  35. Meanwhile, Riverboat Ron still sits in a dark room, mumbling softly………………..”Keep Pounding.”

    how’s that working for ya Ron?

  36. Norman is not a shut down, cover guy. He isn’t worth top dollars yet. He is a good player, but he is not a Revis.

  37. These players need to learn that signing the tender doesn’t prevent them from continuing to negotiate a long-term deal it only sets the terms for a one year deal. A deal that is not team friendly and is entirely player friendly since it’s fully guaranteed upon signing. The only leverage the player gains by not signing is if he intends to withhold services into the season and that would be truly stupid on a franchise tender deal so the player carries all the risk by not signing and in this case part of that risk isn’t just injury but the risk that the team might find better use for that money.
    One side will be very right and one side will be very wrong in this bluff and my bet is his deal when he signs with someone won’t be as good as what he would have had based on a two year franchise tender as a baseline.

  38. .
    @boogerhunt

    ” 6ball says:
    Apr 20, 2016 8:01 PM
    .
    Gettleman marches to his own drum, but he’s fearless and has a track record of success

    Track record? Cupcake schedule followed by a loss on the biggest stage. Yeah, that’s a track record

    ———————–
    The Panthers went 15-1 in the regular season which is a rare feat in itself. They can’t control their schedule. It’s issued by the league. In the playoffs they beat both Seattle and Arizona soundly before losing to a good Denver team. They were more successful than 30 other teams.
    .
    .

  39. tylawspick6 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:04 PM
    Rumor is drugs. What a moron.
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    It couldn’t have been the picture at the top of the screen ??????
    LOL…

  40. jr4real says:
    Apr 20, 2016 8:25 PM

    tmcb7 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:53 PM
    Something tells me that the Panthers know something everyone else does not.
    It will come out eventually.

    ——-

    Agreed. Something happened.

    ____________

    like an upcoming suspension?????

    .

  41. thejuddstir says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:43 PM
    Norman is getting everything he deserves and he can’t blame the Panthers. He had one good year as a system CB and touted himself as the best CB in the NFL (which is laughable) based off of one freakin’ year.
    ====

    The Panthers are the ones who put the franchise tag on him, thereby refusing to allow him to figure out what he “deserved”. He wasn’t holding the Panthers over a barrel, they were holding him over a barrel.

    Why do you favor owners over players?

  42. tylawspick6 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:02 PM
    Belichickesque move right there. Gettleman is taking cues from the master.
    ==
    Actually, Belichick has never done that. He has never given someone the franchise tag, waited until free agency was basically over, and the rescinded that tag.

    So, um, what exactly are you talking about?

  43. Why can’t he do what Revis did with the Patriots? Sign for one year at lower money with the agreement of no franchise tag. Then he scores big next year if he is really that good.

  44. It’s all just business Carolina had no obligation to offer more than the franchise tender which they did .. Josh has the right not to sign his tender because he feels he is worth big dollars.

  45. guy has one good year and he thinks hes Revis. i didnt know who he was 2 years ago.

  46. Agreed his ability to get paid big on the open market is much lower now than it was when FA started so his bargaining position is now severely reduced. But I disagree this is something that the Panthers did to Norman. They had a pretty fat payout For the year on the table this entire time. All he had to do is pick it up. I also suspect the catalyst that changed the pucture is the first workouts started and he was not there. A player priced they way he was talking or even how they were offering doesnt just play well (which he seriously does) they also have to set a leadership example showing up for all activities etc. so that they are helping make the whole team better. So as soon as he was not showing up for workouts, even these preliminary ones, he stopped being worth any of the prices that were being discussed. If that’s correct probably did know that this was where they would pull the plug. I don’t know if they advised him of that ahead of time or not, it’s entirely possible they did but he didn believe them.

  47. tylawspick6 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:02 PM
    Belichickesque move right there. Gettleman is taking cues from the master.

    With Hardy cut and gone with Norman, they probably got rid of their immaturity and cancerous “leaders” in the locker room.

    Again, good move by Gettleman. Keep your leverage as a GM and don’t lose it, otherwise you;ll lose your job as a GM.

    —————————————————————

    Yeah, I was thinking that even as I was writing my comment above. The Panthers as a whole are starting to act more like the Patriots in a lot if ways. The higher level of accountability and lack of tolerance for anything other than a team attitude is something the Pat’s have done for years. If the Panthers as an organization are going that way they might be in for a good run here. Last year they were certainly a great bunch of players. But if all you have is a great bunch of players you will flash for a year or two but not sustain it. To be a dynasty it has to come from the organization that keeps it happening year in and year out even as the players turn over. So if this is what we are seeing we might want to brace for the Panthers to be a long term menace.

  48. donnymacjack says:
    Apr 20, 2016 8:52 PM
    I can hear Richard Sherman commenting that this Norman situation is EXACTLY why so many players want to play for the Seahawks. The entire organization from the owner, to FO, to coaching staff and to the players…they all treat each other with honesty and respect. None of this “Me, me, me” stuff. It won’t fly.

    The organization has two rules for players. 1. Compete everyday. 2. Be yourself.

    The players have two rules for the organization. 1. Be honest. 2. Respect me.

    It seems to work pretty well.

    ———————————————————-

    The hitch in that is when a player feels that the only way they are being respected is to get paid a ton more to everybody else. The problems with that mentality are…..
    1) as soon as they get that ton more they are the new bar others try to get paid against, and as soon as others then get paid more they don’t feel respected any more.
    2) it might make them feel respected to get paid more than everyone else, but now by that same standard everyone else is not respected.

    Seattle has actually had some of that action with guys not feeling respected unless they are the biggest paycheck.

    The Patriots pay fair market value for skill level, but no extra big pay checks there. Yet the respect given and felt there is is among the highest in the league. (If not respected then not on the team) So how do they have their players feeling so respected if they aren’t pouring buckets of money over their heads.

  49. He’s got Dallas written all over him. Jerry knows he needs someone to try and stop Odell.

  50. I’ve been saying it since the season was over. His ego was either going to get him hurt during the off season, or his stupidity was going to doom him by refusing to sign a contract that was to pay him over 13 Million dollars for a single season. This dude has NO ONE TO BLAME BUT HIMSELF for this happening. I applaud the Panthers for sticking it to this guy, and kicking him out on the street. And by the way, I hope no other team offers him more then 3 million for this coming season. It would serve him right for being an idiot.

  51. lapantherfan86 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:05 PM
    All this means is that now fans of other teams can’t use Josh Norman as an excuse to project their own insecurities and hate onto the Panthers. Guess you guys will have to come up with some new fake issues to get offended by. I have faith

    Don’t worry, you still have your QB for that

  52. It’s clear from reading the comments that the good people of Charlotte simply don’t get it and have been brainwashed by NFL owners propaganda.

    If the bottom line is winning championships there is no way that anyone can make a case that this move gets you closer to that goal even though you were so close last year.

    They might not be able to see it right now but the fans wl be the real losers here.

  53. Word Play: Isn’t it funny how the word “Rescind” sounds like “REJECT” lol

  54. Anyone notice Kert Cousins ran to sign his tag, so fast it was before free agency opened.

  55. lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    Apr 20, 2016 10:00 PM
    tylawspick6 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:02 PM
    Belichickesque move right there. Gettleman is taking cues from the master.
    ==
    Actually, Belichick has never done that. He has never given someone the franchise tag, waited until free agency was basically over, and the rescinded that tag.

    So, um, what exactly are you talking about?
    =====

    Actually, That’s a Jeff Lurie move. The Eagles have done that to several players, most notably Jeremiah Trotter, one of the most popular players on the team at the time.

  56. What if …
    Norman signed the tender and made 13.9 MM guaranteed for 1 year?
    Wouldn’t he be in a much better position now?
    Now he’ll struggle to find a job paying 10-12MM.

  57. lapantherfan86 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:05 PM
    All this means is that now fans of other teams can’t use Josh Norman as an excuse to project their own insecurities and hate onto the Panthers. Guess you guys will have to come up with some new fake issues to get offended by. I have faith.

    __________________

    We’ll always have Cam rubbing it in people’s faces when he does well and pouting like a kid when he doesn’t. Until he can stand up and take the criticism when things don’t go his way OR stop showing up opponents, people will be annoyed with the Panthers. Can’t be Mr. Dab and Dance when you’re winning and Mr. Boohoo when you’re losing. Choose one.

  58. lapantherfan86 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 9:05 PM
    All this means is that now fans of other teams can’t use Josh Norman as an excuse to project their own insecurities and hate onto the Panthers. Guess you guys will have to come up with some new fake issues to get offended by. I have faith.

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    How about we go with a QB who was afraid to even attempt to recover his own fumble with the biggest game of his career on the line?

  59. southpackalacky:
    lifelongwhodat:
    nhpats:
    Yeah that’s exactly what I thought you haters would bring up. I guess I was wrong in thinking the witless masses could come up with some new material. Cam has been the same guy since day 1. The only thing that changed this year was the outcome of the games. I didn’t hear any complaints when the Panthers were getting whooped on a weekly basis.

    nhpats, just be glad it wasn’t your team taking the field that day. The league didn’t need to send Brady off with a W.

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