Panthers yank tag from Josh Norman, who becomes a free agent

AP

The Panthers have rescinded the franchise tag the team placed upon cornerback Josh Norman before the start of free agency.

He now becomes a free agent.

“After a number of conversations with Josh’s agent, we realized that a long-term deal was not attainable,” Panthers general manager Dave Gettleman said. “We thank Josh for all his contributions and truly wish him well.”

This is a stunner. Norman was No. 3 on PFT’s Hot 100 Free Agent List before the player movement period started. He’ll likely draw plenty of interest — and plenty of money — on the open market.

Norman started all 16 games for the first time last season and had a career-best four interceptions. He was a fifth-round pick of the Panthers in 2012.

154 responses to “Panthers yank tag from Josh Norman, who becomes a free agent

  1. Panthers are falling apart. Cam is a loser, they just screwed their best player, and they won’t have the weakest schedule in the NFL this year.

    Super Bowl? They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs.

  2. His price tag is ridiculous…the Panthers are strong enough in multiple places to take a chance on a lesser talent at that position…at the end of the day its the overall strength of the unit that matters.

  3. Please Philly sign him so Odell can torture his overrated rear end twice a year for the next 5 years.

  4. A guy literally blew off a finger and a half with fireworks and didn’t have his franchise tag rescinded. This one year wonder must have really done something over the line during negotiations for this to happen.

  5. Bizarre to say the least, there is more to this. They franchised him for a reason they definitely didnt let him go because they couldnt reach a long term deal.

  6. Great cornerback and a hothead. Here’s how to avoid the penalties and ejections that will follow him around the NFL. Let him go somewhere else.

  7. Good move by the Panthers to call his bluff. Norman was a system corner and he tried to milk his one good year into Revis status. Let’s see what foolish team wants to throw money at him…….cowboys come to mind.

  8. he is rated as the 12th best corner and he wanted #1 rated corner money. if he gets it, buyer beware. id take a look at film and see how often he really was out there on an island and how often he played outside leverage because he had a safety over the top.
    hes a fool but his bet is there is a bigger fool out there who needs a corner bad enough to overpay and overpay huge for him. plus you get a really high character guy who had a problem paying child support and if memory serves correct, he took off with her on the hood of the car and tried to sling her off, oh btw, she was pregnant at the time and she refused to have an abortion.
    class guy off the field who wants mega money on the field for above average production.
    id skip him all together and draft the best available DB instead

  9. Gettleman knows what he’s doing. Spend that money on someone who won’t be a distraction this offseason. Thanks for the memories Josh.

  10. Makes no sense unless there is something else coming like a suspension. Not being able to come to a long-term deal isn’t a reason to drop a franchise tag. Not for a team who was just in the Super Bowl and has hopes of getting back there again this coming season.

  11. great move by caro. don’t be held hostage. don’t let the inmates run the asylum.

    these all world CBs have a short shelf life. Richard Sherman isn’t shutdown anymore. in fact he seems somewhat ordinary.

  12. Is anyone else suspicious that perhaps there’s more to this story………..like a failed drug test maybe??????

  13. Josh won’t find a home in New England because he Twitter-tweets too much (Belichick won’t allow that). Titans, perhaps, now that gawd-awful Sensabaugh is gone, but can they pay Josh what he wants? A “book-end” for Patrick Peterson in AZ, perhaps? It’ll be interesting who forks over the ca$h.

  14. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:39 PM
    Panthers are falling apart. Cam is a loser, they just screwed their best player, and they won’t have the weakest schedule in the NFL this year.

    Super Bowl? They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs.
    _____
    I’ll bet you are one of those people that laughed until it hurt when Norman called himself one of the 5 best CBs of all time. You probably also called the Panthers and all their fans idiots for even considering paying him more than $1 million a year. But now that we’ve let him walk, he’s their best player. Whatever. You just hate the Panthers because they are better than your team. Unless you’re one of those millions of people who have been lifelong Broncos fans since 02/08/2016.

  15. The Browns have the cash, and probably won’t get Ramsey! Do it Brownies! A young player, two solid CB’s, and plenty of picks to add players.

  16. Oh God! He spent last month appearing on every single sports related TV and radio program in the United States, and now that he’s a free agent there’ll likely be another round of the same. This guy doesn’t miss a chance to talk about himself.

  17. Giants got 16 left after they gotta pay the rookies….how great would Giants practices be next year?

  18. After the mess they went through with Greg Hardy and his franchise tag that $14mil may be better spent elsewhere. Let someone else deal with him. Wonder if they tried to make a trade?

  19. There’s something missing here. Either he’s about to get busted, or the last negotiating session resulted in the agent promising they would never sign the tender and sit out the year.

    Hopefully the other shoe will drop quickly.

  20. “Career best 4 interceptions.” Not exactly ready for the record books. More ego than stats. Good luck to the team that over pays him.

  21. This is nuts…..Only thing more confusing is the Presidential Primary.

    Cap Space issues will restrict some teams from playing or cause domino affect. This just got interesting.

  22. Anyone chomping at the bit to have their team sign him should pump the brakes. The tag was $14M, the Panthers didn’t cut bait because of that.
    Wait for the other shoe to drop.

  23. This really isn’t fair to Norman
    After nearly every team spends all available money he gets dumped onto the market.

  24. And once again, our Niners will remain silent in Free Agency and the offseason…..

  25. He must’ve punched his QB in the jaw for excessive celebrating during games.

  26. Its things like this that make me hate being a Chargers fan. No they wouldn’t pay for him even though a Norman/Verrett combo would be an easily above average combo.

  27. He’s been bad mouthing his QB in the media. Probably the team had enough. Come to New England, the defense will be top 5.

  28. “elevandoo says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:41 PM

    Why not trade for a draft pick?”

    Presumably nobody wanted to trade for that contract.

  29. I don’t know how this will turn out but Gettlelman is proving he have huge cojones. Respect.

  30. Panthers I’m sure offered him a fair contract but the Giants screwed the market up by overpaying their new corner…..11-12 mil would have been good..he wanted 16 mil…not here….

  31. Look I can’t stand the Panthers but you got to hand it to them for not paying the crazy QB money he was probably asking for long term.

  32. Can you say Nnamdi Asomugha???

    In your best Samuel L Jackson, repeat after me ” Proverbs 16:18″ Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” …add a MF and Royale with cheese in there somewhere for dramatic effect…

    PS- Somewhere ODB is laughing his butt off…

  33. Tampa has both the need for a top flight DB and the cap space to get it done. Norman could stay in the NFC South and have no state income taxes to pay. Mike Smith could Draft Bosa/Buckner/Dodd at #9 and the Bucs would be a stout defensive team!

  34. We’ll see if somebody has $15 mil laying around to sign him. 4 picks doesn’t sound like a whole lot particularly on a team that has a very good defense overall. He will probably end up signing for $25 mil guaranteed somewhere and end up gone after 2 years. Hope it isn’t my guys.

  35. Lots of possible explanations: too much money for a one year wonder; disruptive influence in the locker room; failed drug test; outside trouble; personal conflicts with coaches …. Any team that takes him needs to do a whole lotta investigation. It seems incredible that an agent misread the situation on money so badly – it can’t be about money unless Norman wouldn’t listen. The agents knew where the walk away point was for the Panthers so I agree that there is much more to the story. Norman will need to prove himself in another defensive alignment next year.

  36. fans freaking out about team salary cap to sign this guy:

    1) Huge signing bonus
    2) Smaller year-1 salary
    3) Huge year 2 guaranteed salary when many teams will again have big salary-cap number.

  37. Josh Norman is an ardent Bigot, supporter of hate speech, and does not believe in human decency, or civil rights for everyone equally, inside or outside the law. His comments very strongly suggest that he is a supporter Carolina’s new hate legislation. Now we may finally get to see how the nfl treats an open Bigot, and anti-civil rights activist. Hopefully now we get to see how his hatefulness, and teammates have been masking his average playing ability, and how openly bigoted he chooses to be now without a fellow Bigoted coach to protect him, and without a Bigoted State behind him. Arrogantly, hateful, dehumanizing bullying is Josh Norman personified, and now we get to see if he is a coward about too.

  38. Like other guys said – WOW!

    I can’t believe they simply figured out this soon that they would never come to terms on agreement. Really does seem like there’s something else there.

    Also for the one guy who said it – No way in hell the Vikes are going after him lol. I’m sure they’ll do their due diligence, but if he wants THAT big of a contract that they will pull the franchise tag and let him walk without trying, no way in hell we want him.

  39. Doesn’t have to be a reason. Carolina could have just come to its senses and decided carrying over $15M to 2017 is better.

  40. Dave Gettleman is my new hero. Get rid of the bad character guys before they contaminate the whole organization.

  41. Come to the Bucs:
    1. Cap Space Bucs can pay you
    2. No State income tax
    3. Get to play the Panthers twice per year min.
    4. Live in FL
    5. Bucs a couple of pieces from a contender

  42. I understand the temptation to go for 30 or 40 million guaranteed (I say that but I really don’t have any idea what that kind of money would feel like) but sign the tag (at 13 or 14 million) and be set for a long, long time. I wonder how involved former player and current owner Jerry Richardson was involved in this decision.

  43. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:54 PM
    He’s been bad mouthing his QB in the media. Probably the team had enough. Come to New England, the defense will be top 5.
    ——————–

    Says the Jets fan whose team is paying Revis for at least 2 more years and doesn’t realize neither of them is worth the money

  44. To bad John Mara didn’t see how good Dave was in the front office, and fired Coughlin and not Jerry Reese.
    After next year, he might wake up and see how good this guy really is, and yes he is very good!
    CT GIANT

  45. 1 hit wonder.

    I was about to say he doesn’t deserver anywhere near $16M/year but then someone told me that the Giants signed Janoris Jenkins to a deal that averages $16M/yr, lol.

  46. I’m not sure why people are “laughing at” Norman. He can now go to a team of his choosing and, unlike the Panthers, some idiot team is going to way overpay him more than his franchise tag number. He comes out as a winner in this transaction. It will be interesting to see what the real story is, but as of now it looks like the Panthers did not make out very well after losing their star CB and getting nothing in return.

  47. At this point in free agency who has the money to sign him?
    The Raiders still have the most room but what he’s asking ($15M) would put even them over the cap.

    If they can get it done, Raiders would have the best offseason in franchise history, that’s for sure.

  48. jrossizzle says:
    Apr 20, 2016 6:15 PM
    Come to the Bucs:
    1. Cap Space Bucs can pay you
    2. No State income tax
    3. Get to play the Panthers twice per year min.
    4. Live in FL
    5. Bucs a couple of pieces from a contender
    ___________________

    Yeah, number for isn’t exactly a plus particularly Tampa

  49. I like this move. Norman is a loud mouth with bigger talk than game. He wasn’t even worth what the Franchise Tag would have cost. The Panthers are better off and Dave Gettleman makes another solid move.

  50. I think what you’re seeing is the Panthers deciding they are not going to make the same mistake Philly did and give tons of money to a guy after one decent season, only to watch him gobble up all their cap space.

    Until Norman can show he is more than a one-hit wonder, I think the Panthers were wise to let him walk.

    That said, the Jags will likely jump in and sign him with top dollars since they still have plenty of cap space. Personally if he actually is more than a one-hit wonder, I’m kinda hoping the Raiders can swoop in and get him. I’d love to see their fanbase get behind them with a strong playoff run this year. If any fanbase deserves it, it’s them.

  51. How do the Panthers fans feel about this?

    He certainly played a part in the teams success last season, this just goes out to remind players, that just because they were tagged doesn’t necessarily mean you have all the leverage.

  52. Alright NFL teams, who wants an open Bigot on their roster in this EVER increasingly diverse country we live in. Anyone? Open Bigot’s services for sale! Anyone want to hire a Bigot that may not support your human rights? Anyone want to give money to a person who may not look upon you as a human being? Anyone? Now your chance!

  53. My guess he wants ridiculous money….
    Man if he’d only have been somewhat reasonable he’d be set…
    If he’s smart he’ll go for the guarenteed money & not some down the road bigger non guarenteed contract…

  54. Hmmmm
    No contending team has the kind of money he wants this time of year
    But
    I heard rumor he wants to go to Green Bay
    Ted Thompson won’t pay crazy money for him
    And , the Packers have too many UFA’s next year

  55. Gettleman gets a lot of praise from Giants fans who wish we would have canned Reese and instead kept Gettleman. A lot of the big time panthers were already there before Gettleman took over.

  56. Josh’s next three years;
    Suspension
    Rehab
    1 year Prove It contract from a 4-12 team
    Big contract.

  57. Something is brewing. Why not just make him play under the tag for two years. Any one with the mullah to pay for a TWELVE GAME corner back. Now if he were a DE Dallas would be all over this!!!! They will know how to deal with twelve game players. Damn!!!

  58. I love all of these people happy because you don’t want this guy to get paid. What kind of losers are you? As far as his situation, I’m thinking that it was probably the price tag because while he is good, he is a system corner and as a system corner, he is not on that top shelf with Richard Sherman who does much of the same that he does. When he does pick his next team, he needs to scrutinize the system as much as the contract to make sure he doesn’t end up like Byron Maxwell last year.

  59. Considering Richardson was a ringleader among owners in the 2011 lockout, and that his career earnings as a player was probably five figures, I doubt he was very sympathetic toward Josh.

  60. Well, he’s either going to leave the Panthers because he’s angry at them or has a better deal from someone regardless of scheme.

    However, he could get lowballed elsewhere due to the issue of scheme and thus return to Carolina.

  61. As long as he didn’t fail a drug test or have an arrest incident coming public…..

    WELCOME TO THE RAIDER NATION!!!!

    Josh you will lock down one side and Sean Smith will lock down the other side!

  62. 4 interceptions in one season? That’s only one less, than Sean Smith had in his three KC seasons.

    Jump on him, Raiders…Over-pay the man!

  63. ttoptom says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:49 PM
    “Career best 4 interceptions.” Not exactly ready for the record books. More ego than stats. Good luck to the team that over pays him.

    ___________________________

    While I agree, interceptions is an overrated stat. I remember when Dealtha ONeal had 10 for the Broncos, but gave up touchdowns galore. When you’re a top corner, you have less chances for interceptions.

  64. Resign hardy , sign Norman, hardy and a norman daily battle with Dez . How much for a ticket for daily practice

  65. I love how every team should look into him.

    This is either because Norman is about to be out of the league (killed someone) or because he isn’t budging in his negotiations on wanting some insane number (16 million per year) on his contract.

    If either case, most teams won’t even bother calling. No team just yanks a franchise tag without reason.

  66. Something is rotten in Denmark!

    Since the inception of the “franchise tag”, which for you older heads use to be called “Plan B”, has any player had it removed once it was given? Their is a whole lot more to this story than meets the eye, just wish I knew what it was.

    Looking at logically, we know it isn’t about the money, franchise tags like draft positions are slotted and are at current market values. Carolina has an excellent defense already and they know who is on their roster. This seems to be of a more personal/character nature.

    This just seems like one of those “If it sounds to go to be true, it probably is”.

    Guess we’ll find out soon enough!

  67. maybe they think he will come back down to earth after being able to feild some offers.. but i dont any one is going to give him what he wants.. not after half of an ok year and then one good year, kid thinks hes richard sherman or Revis all of a sudden

  68. kd75 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:42 PM
    At this point who’s got $15+ mil of cap room?
    =======================================

    The Bears do….. $22 million as of right now.
    They also need a CB.

    If the Bears sign Norman they can pretty much draft whatever position they want with the 11th pick.

  69. Guy got smoked for TDs late in big games by Beckham & Javon Kearse. He’s not that good.

  70. word is he wants over 85 million for 5 years…..can’t blame the panthers….somebody will over pay him…..personally I hope it’s not the Raiders if wants that kind of money

  71. Wow this seems like a complete scumbag move on the part of the Panthers. Most teams with any money to sign him have already spent it. I hate the Pats but I hope he signs a one year deal with them just because.

  72. So, the fade jump on a #2 CB, pay him #1 money and then an actual #1 CB comes on the market, and they don’t have the money.

    Hilarious.

  73. whispersd says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:54 PM
    “elevandoo says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:41 PM

    Why not trade for a draft pick?”

    Presumably nobody wanted to trade for that contract.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    He was tagged, however, he hadn’t signed, so there was no trade ability. Team owned/controlled his rights, but could do nothing more than negotiate with him on a long term contract, or wait until he signed and showed up to work. If he had signed, then a trade could be completed.

  74. igotgamenj says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:07 PM
    This would be a great pick up for Miami
    ~~~~~~
    No it wouldn’t. This guy is narcissistic and close to crazy. We already have an overpaid CB that thought he was the man. No way they should get him at the price he wants. (He wants to be the highest paid CB for bragging rights and turned down 11 million a year from the Panthers). Some team is going to find out that he is a decent player that dramatically benefits from the system he is in. Put him in a different system and you get the guy the Eagles pawned off on Miami. (Hopefully Maxwell fits Miami’s system)

  75. platinumraider32 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:02 PM
    Something is rotten in Denmark!

    Since the inception of the “franchise tag”, which for you older heads use to be called “Plan B”, has any player had it removed once it was given? Their is a whole lot more to this story than meets the eye, just wish I knew what it was.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Carolina thinks they are a Defensive Line First team and system doesn’t need an “elite” shutdown type corner or at least need to pay the elite CB price. Time will tell, but that is the only explanation I can foresee.

  76. Jags and Raiders are in play here.

    If either gets him, they will double down by getting an edge rusher to make him even more effective. I like the thrill and danger of this high stakes poker game.

    Who will get Josh Norman?

  77. He wanted $19M. Even his agent tried to talk him down. If anyone wants to pay him that kind of money, I say have at it….and good luck!

  78. platinumraider32 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:02 PM
    Since the inception of the “franchise tag”, which for you older heads use to be called “Plan B”, has any player had it removed once it was given?
    ———————

    Off the top of my head Leroy Hill and JPP come to mind. Hill for $ and JPP for his hand injury

  79. 1nationraidernation says:
    Apr 20, 2016 7:20 PM

    word is he wants over 85 million for 5 years…..can’t blame the panthers….somebody will over pay him…..personally I hope it’s not the Raiders if wants that kind of money
    __________________________________________

    Are you serious??? He want’s that kind of loot? Dude has had how many “good” years??

    Raiders have done a great job not breaking the bank trying to get players, pulease don’t start now!!!! He’d be a great addition but not for QB type dough.

  80. jgedgar70 says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:45 PM
    osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:39 PM
    Panthers are falling apart. Cam is a loser, they just screwed their best player, and they won’t have the weakest schedule in the NFL this year.

    Super Bowl? They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs.
    _____
    I’ll bet you are one of those people that laughed until it hurt when Norman called himself one of the 5 best CBs of all time. You probably also called the Panthers and all their fans idiots for even considering paying him more than $1 million a year. But now that we’ve let him walk, he’s their best player. Whatever. You just hate the Panthers because they are better than your team. Unless you’re one of those millions of people who have been lifelong Broncos fans since 02/08/2016.

    ——————–

    No, he’s one of those lifelong Seahawks fans since 2012. Hence the Panther hate.

  81. jrossizzle says:
    Apr 20, 2016 6:15 PM
    Come to the Bucs:
    1. Cap Space Bucs can pay you
    2. No State income tax
    3. Get to play the Panthers twice per year min.
    4. Live in FL
    5. Bucs a couple of pieces from a contender

    ——————————

    I actually thought this was a serious post until you got to #4 on the list. Hahaha! Good one.

  82. Some team will throw more money at him than what he is worth and he will fade into obscurity. Overrated with only one good year and he wants 16million a year? Yikes. When a good and stable franchise does something like this there is something to it. I just pray that my team does not sign him.

  83. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Two thumbs up to the Panthers. This guy is the most over-rated player of 2015. Let’s see where he’ll go and flop this year. #systemcorner

  84. No way NE is in on him unless he takes a one year deal (Revis type of deal). Someone will come in and give him a 3 year deal.

  85. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    Apr 20, 2016 5:39 PM
    Panthers are falling apart. Cam is a loser, they just screwed their best player, and they won’t have the weakest schedule in the NFL this year.

    Super Bowl? They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs.

    =====================================

    Even if Cam wasn’t our best player (which he is) Luke would be our next best, then KK, TD,Olsen, Kalil, then MAYBE Josh.

    Your take is bad and you should feel bad.

  86. While I would LOVE seeing Norman opposite Sean Smith with the Raiders, I don’t think this is going to happen. Everyone in these comments are saying that the Raiders have the most cap space but with all the spending they’ve done this offseason they only have about $11Mil left over. I think Norman’s price tag is too much. Plus, Reggie McKenzie has shown that he doesn’t overpay for players no matter how good they are and sets up smart deals so, I don’t think he’s going to Oakland.

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