Poll finds Maryland divided on whether Joe Flacco is elite

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The state of Maryland is divided on one of the pressing issues of our time: Is Joe Flacco elite?

Public Policy Polling surveyed Maryland residents in anticipation of next week’s presidential primary, and while polling the state about politics decided to ask questions about sports as well. One of those questions was, “Do you think Joe Flacco is a elite Quarterback, or not?”

The survey found that 39 percent say Flacco is elite, 31 percent say Flacco is not elite, and 30 percent are not sure.

Democrats and Republicans basically agreed on the topic, with Democrats saying Flacco is elite by a 36-32 margin, and Republicans saying Flacco is elite by a 43-35 margin. Independents said Flacco is elite by a 42-23 margin.

The poll also found that 38 percent of Maryland residents consider Baltimore their favorite NFL team, while 22 percent choose Washington. The Cowboys have the support of 6 percent of Maryland, the Steelers 5 percent and the Packers and Giants 4 percent each.

77 responses to “Poll finds Maryland divided on whether Joe Flacco is elite

  1. You know you’re in trouble when you can’t even lock up the homer vote.

    #journeyman

  2. The state of Maryland is divided on one of the pressing issues of our time: Is Joe Flacco elite?
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    I’ll settle this right now. He is not.
    You’re welcome.

  3. I believe the Ravens fans may be a little spoiled. Joe Flacco is one of the few quarterbacks that has one a superbowl. He also is that rare quarterback that can go on the road in the winter time in bad weather and fearlessly beat any team-just ask the patriots. I am an eagles fan and would love a quarterback with his heart and skill.

  4. Regardless of this debate; performed at a very high level at just the right moment to secure a contract to pay Joe Flacco a lot of money because what else could the team do (see Wilson in Seattle and Cousins in Washington among others) other than franchise him? Let the Super Bowl MVP QB walk? And then start who? Bet on himself and won. Good for him.

  5. He looked damn good during the 2012 post season. But the consistency is lacking. Elite? Not quite. He can deliver when surrounded by a solid team, though. Respected is a more appropriate label.

  6. If by elite you meant the top 5 in the league this used to be easy (for me); in no particular order Brady, Peyton, Aaron, Brees and Big Ben. The top 5 now? Brady, Aaron, Big Ben (when healthy), Brees (his numbers are sick) and…? Russell Wilson has two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl title. Brady turns 39 before the season starts, Brees is 37 and Roethlisberger is 34. May be room at the top for someone else soon.

  7. Of course Joe Flacco is elite. He can make all the throws in the NFL. Now you may ask, how come Brady can’t throw the football over 20 yards anymore but he is considered one the best in the NFL? Well he makes it up with his mind and experience in a way not many other QB can do.

  8. Joe’s won 10 playoff games, in 6 different seasons. Don’t bring up Dilfer’s 1 SB season. Ridiculous comparison.

  9. Joe’s won more playoff games than ALL QBs, since his rookie year. More than Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Brees, & Ben. What more does he have to do?

  10. It’s funny to see all the rabid Ravens fans who can’t stand anyone say anything negative about their team. Why so fragile?

  11. He is so much better than people gives him credit for, especially never having a Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald or Deandre Hopkins.

    – Most road playoff wins of all time – 7
    – 10th most playoff wins of all time – 10 (3 more than Aaron Rogers, 9 more than Matt Ryan and Carson Palmer, 4 behind John Elway, 1 behind Staubach)
    – In last 8 Seasons, most completions over 25 yards or more.
    – Most TDs In a postseason – 11 TDs
    – Only QB to have over a 100 rating in 4 straight post season games
    – Quickest to throw 5 TDs in a game (16:03 minutes)
    – Most consecutive playoff games with at least two passing touchdowns -8
    – Only quarterback to start and win a playoff game in each of his first five seasons

    And a Lee Evans dropped pass for another Superbowl. And should have beaten New England in 2014 if not for defense falling apart (2 14 point leads).

    His in season stats are solid, but not spectacular. But he plays in AFC North (tough defenses) and has mediocre talent around him.

    So to a Ravens fan, I believe he is elite.

    And I am glad we took him and not Matt “Ice”.

  12. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Apr 23, 2016 3:55 PM
    Now you may ask, how come Brady can’t throw the football over 20 yards anymore but he is considered one the best in the NFL?
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    If one were to ask that question it probably wouldn’t be asked of a Jets fan that poses as a Pats fan. But a real Pats fan’s answer would be he just wins. BTW PFF’s long ball stats show Brady was among the league leaders (top 5) in long ball accuracy in 2015 in spite of not having a legitimate deep threat receiver

  13. He is not only non-Elite, he’s not even upper tier. He’s in the same grouping as Ryan fitpatrick, Colin keeper nick, Kirk cousins, or Ryan tannehill. He is not better than Romo, rivers, Brees, Eli, dalton, Stafford,

    And he doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Brady, Rodgers or ben who are absolutley the only 3 truly Elite qb’s right now. Wilson and Newton are knocking on the door of eliteNess.

    Jump ball Joe had the luckiest playoff stretch of anyone in the history of the game. Every td he threw that playoff year was a vintage jump ball Joe prayer that was answered.

    Elite? Flacco? Hahaha. Good one

  14. handsofsteelhartofstone says:
    Apr 23, 2016 5:39 PM
    And he doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Brady, Rodgers or ben who are absolutley the only 3 truly Elite qb’s right now.
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    Brees and Rivers belong in the elite group, they are just on weak teams. And that’s coming from a Giants fan

  15. Keep up the talks about wondering which QBs are elite, all Ravens fans know Joe is the guy, wouldn’t want anyone else.

    That Super Bowl he won speaks volumes.

  16. Let’s put it this way: if the biggest game of the year was on the line, would you want, oh, say Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco at QB? Which of those two is really an elite QB? Or we could go with, perhaps, Tom Brady or Joe Flacco. Who’s really elite here? We can keep going. How about Andrew Luck or Joe Flacco? Anybody? Well then, how about Ben Roethlisberger or Joe Flacco? Anyone? Bueller? Are we starting to get the picture here? Flacco is a very, very average QB at best. He’s not in the class of the four QB’s I just mentioned, and there are others who are ahead of him as well. Russell Wilson, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees–sorry, but Flacco just isn’t in their class. He’s okay, and he does have a Super Bowl ring, but then so does Trent Dilfer. Flacco is highly overrated.

  17. theowlknowsall says:
    Apr 23, 2016 5:22 PM
    He is so much better than people gives him credit for, especially never having a Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald or Deandre Hopkins.
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    He still had Torrey Smith when he was at his best, and Steve Smith and Anquan Boldin who are possible HOFers,

    While he may not have had an Elite in their prime WR that teams like to pair with just under elite QB like Stafford, Dalton, or Ryan. It isn’t like they are asking him to get it done with Ginn. Jr. and Funches.

  18. If half dont believe you are. You’re provably not. That goes from pretty much anything.

    But at least he has a lot of money.

  19. I’m from Maryland. There are parts of the state that are like completely different states. I grew up 2 hours from Baltimore, it’s a completely different environment. The western and eastern parts of the state are more conservative, middle extremely liberal. I wonder how this poll broke down the different regions. For a relatively small state, I would say there at least 4 regions with distinct cultures.

  20. Most residents in Montgomery and PG Counties, half of Howard County, half of the Southern half of the Eastern Shore and the majority of the population of all counties in Southern Maryland are fans of the Washington NFL team (especially since that team plays home games in PG County).

    At least half of Frederick County and most of those to the West are fans of the team in SW Pennslyvania.

    At least half of the people who live in the counties of the Northern Eastern Shore, plus most of the people who live in Cecil and Harford counties are fans of the Eagles.

    There are a few Cowboy fans (I question the 6% reported in the poll).

    There are a few Colt fans who were fans of the Colts before Indianapolis stole them in 1983.

    That doesn’t leave a whole lot of Maryland whose population are fans of the Ravens, and there pre-disposed to Flacco. After all, there are only 23 counties in the state.

    And I know several Ravens fans who say Flacco is not an elite QB – some say he will never be one; some say he has the potential to be elite, but that can only be determined after his playing days are over.

  21. Flacco is like the inverse of Andy Dalton. Flacco sometimes plays crappy in easily winnable games but tense to step up in big games. Dalton can’t win a big game to save his life.

  22. He’s not elite, but he’s a winner. I’ll take Joe Flacco anyday over that loser in Atlanta. I think they call him Matty Ice or something.

  23. champs794 says:
    Apr 23, 2016 3:17 PM
    He’s won a Super Bowl. ppl forget that.
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    Trent Dilfer won one for the same franchise. That certainly didn’t make him elite. He’s a good quarterback, who is wildly inconsistent. To be elite, you have to be consistently great. There are two on that list now – Rodgers and Brady.

  24. The main factor in determining whether he is elite or not is does Jon Gruden LOVE him?

  25. Fellow readers newsletterczar and theowlknowsall above are correct: the five best quarterbacks in the NFL remain Brady, Peyton (before retirement), Aaron Rodgers, Brees and Big Ben. They are elite.
    But Flacco’s right there. His postseason play has generally been very good. He made the postseason in the first five years (I think) of his career, something no one else had done. Flacco’s good in cold weather and on the road, and particularly in Foxborough, MA where other quarterbacks falter.
    Down here in Dallas they think that Romo is elite. Compare what Romo has done versus Flacco. What a joke.
    Joe Flacco is an elite NFL quarterback.

  26. I love the guy but don’t care about elite status.

    Here’s a question for you, though.

    Say a DB was to make a bad read and your only shot at winning a January football game in -15 wind chill at altitude, was to heave a fully inflated football 70+ yards away and about 60 yards vertical, with Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil chasing you. Could your guy do it?

    Respect.

  27. Flacco’s a winner. That’s all I need in a QB.
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    What was the ravens record last year? If thats your idea of winning you have low expectations for your team. Setting low goals for your team does tend to make you less likely to be disappointed. You have discovered the secret to happiness.

  28. That’s where the pollsters need to back up and ask the question:

    “Is Maryland elite?”

    Might add another level to.. you know, poll-sting… or whatever they call/justify themselves…

  29. Isn’t it interesting that when a qb makes the playoffs for five straight years, all those players that were on the team with him during those five years made the playoffs too? He did not single handedly make the playoffs. Ravens had a pretty darn good defense in those earlier years and a good running game.

  30. He had a defense anchored by at least 3 hall of famers for the first five years of his career. That helps a lot.

    If not for the Rahim Moore play, there wouldn’t even be a debate about this.

  31. I wouldn’t say he “elite” just yet.
    I put him in Eli’s class.

    but I WOULD say he is fearless, and that’s a quality I would rather have at this point of his career. The “Elite” term is like a lifetime achievement award for most, except maybe Brady, Manning and Rodgers.

    Joe can ball and the classifications don’t mean much

  32. newsletterczar says:
    Apr 23, 2016 3:43 PM
    If by elite you meant the top 5 in the league this used to be easy (for me); in no particular order Brady, Peyton, Aaron, Brees and Big Ben. The top 5 now? Brady, Aaron, Big Ben (when healthy), Brees (his numbers are sick) and…? Russell Wilson has two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl title. Brady turns 39 before the season starts, Brees is 37 and Roethlisberger is 34. May be room at the top for someone else soon.

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    How about the reigning MVP, Cam Newton, you silly goose?

  33. Why is it everyone questions Flaccos ability and snow win even though he did it dominating fashion,yet no one questions Reothlisbergers ability when the steelers won both of his subs in spite of him?

  34. Here’s the real deal – Flacco’s an above average QB, no more no less, who happened to play the best 4 consecutive games of his career during a post season. And while he does play better in the playoffs, thats a bit deceiving because he’s so average during the season.

  35. He’s a great quarterback during the playoffs but he is not great during the regular season playing against regular teams. That is why he is not elite.

  36. How about this response.

    Elite in regular season = No
    Elite in the playoffs = Yes

  37. To try to stay competitive with the elite-rich offense of the steelers, the NFL should allow the other afcn teams to join forces and platoon the QB position – Flacco QB’s the playoffs, Dalton the regular season, and rg3 the preseason. Problem solved.

  38. Not the smartest of polls. When you have 2 teams that play in the same state, and a bordering State to the north that in the 70’s and 80’s had terrible economics conditions and their residents fled to Maryland for employment, the results of these polls are skewed representing that.

    Very few Maryland residents around the DC beltway root for anything Ravens. There are some, but not many.

    Additonally the Ravens are just 20 years old. They are just not starting to see generational growth of their fan base (kids of fans) staking a claim to the Ravens as their team. Washington has had that generational growth for years.

  39. Year after year the Patriots fear one team and one qb in the post season and that is the Ravens and Flacco. Ask the Patriots if they think Flacco is elite.

  40. Oh, your funny. Tom Brady does not fear Joe Flat-tire. There is a difference between being elite and being paid like an elite.

  41. Flacco has had jack squat at receiver and everyone knows it. I would love to see what he could do with an ELITE WR.

  42. Tory Smith – Not a great route runner for his first couple years.

    Anquan Bolden – Best receiver Joe had. Only stayed for a cup of coffee. Wish the Ravens never let him go.

    Steve Smith – Only 1 year with Joe, then got injured. Hopefully this year he can have another great year.

    Bottom line – no consistency at WR for Joe.

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