NFL wins Deflategate appeal, Tom Brady suspension back on

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The NFL has won the latest round in its Deflategate legal battle, and Tom Brady is once again suspended for the first four games of the season.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has ruled that the NFL does indeed have the authority to suspend Brady, overturning a lower court ruling and reinstating the four-game suspension that Brady was originally handed last year.

The league’s findings in the Deflategate investigation were that Brady was more probable than not to have ordered the Patriots’ equipment staff to deflate footballs below the minimum level of 12.5 psi. Brady has insisted that he did no such thing.

There have been so many twists and turns in the Deflategate saga that no one should assume it’s over, but at the moment the NFL has won and Brady has lost, and the Patriots appear set to start the season without their star quarterback.

305 responses to “NFL wins Deflategate appeal, Tom Brady suspension back on

  1. Joke of a franchise. Only team in NFL history with so many scandals in a ten year period.

    Funny how all these scandals coincide with the only period in their history when they were relevant.

    Stripe all titles. Suspend franchise operations for three years and forfeit all wins since Belicheat took over.

  2. Didn’t this happen once?

    Doesn’t he do some kind of appeal now and get to play anyway?

  3. Simply stunning the degree that science is being ignored. Makes me think we are in the pre-17th century. Goodell ought to be ashamed of himself he really is the worst commissioner in sports history.

  4. This was a no-brainer. Shocked when the lower court doofus made his decision. Obvious Patriot fan.

  5. Garbage. Take this all the way, Tom. In before the Hate Brigade starts yelling “Guilty”….this is 0% about guilt or innocence, and 100% about the disciplinary parameters of the commissioner.

  6. i would love to hear the reasoning of why the 3 judges sided with the NFL even after hearing about all of the lies the NFL’s lawyers said under oath in their court room.

  7. A little more info would be helpful. What is to prevent Brady seeking an injunction while taking it to the next level?

  8. The Colts have been exonerated by the court.

    All of the haters can blab until they turn blue, but nothing changes that.

  9. This is total BS I’m a pats fan but cmon what evidence even is there?? If the NFL isn’t going to release the findings of the PSI of balls weighed this season how can we even consider this debate? Demand the league reveal what the PSI’s of balls were during cold weather games and compare. If the pressure remained constant then the patriots cheated if it didn’t then the patriots didn’t it’s that simple. Panthers and Vikings warm up balls on the sidelines and get a reminder of the rules and Brady gets 4 games and we loose a draft pick? I love football but I HATE the NFL.

  10. There is a 0% chance the Patriots start the season without him. He will appeal, and then the NFL will, and so on and so on…

  11. While I think the entire system is rigged [i.e. someone who rapes a woman, or fails a drug test, gets same ban as someone who deflated some balls], clearly where there is smoke there is fire.

    Tom Brady was super sketchy in the entire thing and obviously was involved in cheating.

  12. I’m hearing it goes back to Berman to rule on the other aspects he stated he would address if it was appealed successfully.

  13. Das Furor Goodell must have a major woodie this morning … As much as I dislike the Pats and Brady I wanted to see the NFL lose this one …

  14. newenglandsports11 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:50 AM
    Simply stunning the degree that science is being ignored. Makes me think we are in the pre-17th century. Goodell ought to be ashamed of himself he really is the worst commissioner in sports history.

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    Whether you agree with the science or not was never part of appeal despite what the original judge might’ve made you think.

    Does Goodell have the power to do what he did under the CBA, that was the only question.

  15. No shock to me, it is clear much behind the scenes power brooking has been going on with the basic attitude “Look we cannot let big business lose a major court case it sets a terrible precedent for other big business in the USA”

    I am sure an appeal will be coming.

    Its time Brady took the gloves off and started filing his defamation law suites there is no way you will win this ban case.

  16. So a judge has now upheld a 4 game suspension, Kraft gave up a draft pick & payed a fine, yet the fan base is still screaming innocence at the top of their annoying lungs.

  17. Its time for the Patriots to finally accept responsibility for endless cheating leading to 4 tainted trophies, they don’t mean anything when they are not earned.
    Shameful organization to say the least.

  18. I feel sorry for Pats fans – they live in such a bubble up there in New England. They think they do no wrong – and yet they constantly and consistently cheat. I mean seriously, do people actually root for the Pats?

  19. Garrapolo does to Brady what Brady did to Bledsoe. It’s been a great run Tom but it’s over. Good luck to you.

  20. For all those who are saying “It’ll just be appealed again” … You have an automatic right to appeal to a Circuit Court, like the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, which issued the relevant opinion today. The only level of appeal after this is the Supreme Court of the United States, which only hears significantly less than 10% of cases, and almost assuredly won’t waste their time with this. It really may be over.

  21. newenglandsports11 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:50 AM
    Simply stunning the degree that science is being ignored. Makes me think we are in the pre-17th century. Goodell ought to be ashamed of himself he really is the worst commissioner in sports history.
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    Science is not being ignored. Ideal Gas Law refers to how a gas will react in ideal conditions. Nothing about the conditions were in a controlled atmosphere.

    Brady chose not to fully cooperate and got suspended.

  22. Not a Patriots fan…four games still seems excessive to me. It’s only because he didn’t cooperate. The team already lost draft picks. I’m starting to hate the league front office. They can be shady and hide significant information about concussions, but want to be heavy-handed with Brady. Hypocrisy.

  23. Simply stunning the degree that science is being ignored. Makes me think we are in the pre-17th century. Goodell ought to be ashamed of himself he really is the worst commissioner in sports history.

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    …this should come as no surprise, as we have about half of the country in denial about what science is telling us.

  24. Nice job riding the positive momentum of 2016 Draft right into the ground.

    The NFL is soon to be America’s 2nd favorite sport so long as Roger is in charge.

  25. No one believes the NFL framed the Cheats or it was a witch hunt, except delusional Cheatriot fans.

    Brady , just admit it and quit wasting everyone’s time.

    The deflator says so or he really will go to ESPN to talk about how he deflated the footballs.

    Enuf is enuf. Cheaters for life!!!

  26. I look for the below headline on PFT website within the next 48hrs.

    “Robert Kraft Has Written A Strongly Worded Letter”

  27. travesty of justice.

    NFL can’t even prove that any balls were even deflated.

    If you can’t prove there was a crime, you don’t get to make a case for a cover up.

  28. That gives the Bills a 50-50 shot at beating the Patriots in week 4.

    The fanboys will celebrate to no end if they manage to win, even without Brady.

  29. I’m expecting this news will fly under the radar and that it won’t get many comments. Too much going on in the NBA.

  30. Anyone who thinks they won’t still end up in the AFC Championship game, at the least, please raise your hand.

    And while you’re thinking about that, remember that this verdict was not a statement on the case, just a statement that the NFL has the right to enforce punishment as they see fit. The case was never made.

  31. Also, if the league was smart, they would DROP the suspension right now. Before an appeal is filed.

    You’ve got a ruling in your home jurisdiction that restores the powers of the commissioner. You don’t want this dragging out. You don’t want to risk losing those powers again before you can negotiate them away in a new CBA.

    So drop it, and move on. Then Brady would have no standing to appeal, and you can move on.

  32. I love the “science is being ignored” comments. I’ve played football games in Pennsylvania where temperatures were at least 30 degrees colder than that playoff game. And guess what? The footballs didn’t shrink. If this were really about science and not about finding excuses, wouldn’t it be common knowledge that footballs shrink excessively in cold temperatures? I mean, the first time we hear of this excuse is when Brady gets caught? And let’s not even go into the “Deflator” was just trying to lose weight…:D

  33. So from my understanding of this – it doesn’t mean that the court agrees in the NFL’s findings (that Brady was involved in a scheme to deflate footballs, based on the BS report that the NFL paid for), rather it means that the court ruled that the NFL has the authority to suspend him via the CBA and all appeals have to be handled via the process that was agree to. Florio, how about some legal analysis here?

    As a Steelers fan, I still think the whole thing is a complete sham. I’m not convinced he did anything wrong, I wish the NFL would just stop trying to justify Goodell’s actions and drop the whole thing.

  34. “Simply stunning the degree that science is being ignored.”

    If you were paying attention you’d know that this court case has nothing to do with science, or even whether or not anyone deflated anything. It is about the NFL’s right to discipline players.

    They have the right to discipline players.

    Now let’s get this crap out of the court system and get on with their lives. Tom Brady’s kids will still get great Christmas presents.

  35. Brady should sue the League. He has a great case! Forget the legalise, science disproved the NFL’s case. We be living in Goodell’s alternate universe???

  36. This is stupid. I’m sorry but I was for it at first but the NFL should have just let it go. The Pats proved last year too that it doesn’t make a difference.

  37. Ticker tape parade!

    I wish it was for longer. Much longer. But this still is very encouraging.

  38. Brady’s 4th SB is now null and void. He cheated. He had been cheating. No one suddenly starts deflating the ball for 1 game. It’s not about the blow out against the Colts. It’s about every other win – if the deflated ball helped them convert 1 first down then the game is tainted. How many games turn on 1 or 2 plays. The Patriots have a history and culture of cheating. Sadly – how many players have we really wanted to believe weren’t cheating – and we found out they were. Here’s another one.

  39. This will go on forever. After the final appeal Brady will probably file a defamation suit citing the demonstrable lies of Roger Goodell and that demonstrable malice of the owners he works for and that case will keep the deflategate ball rolling for another two to five years.

  40. What a joke of professional sports league. I’ll be watching all NFL games via illegal streams from now on.

  41. publikwerks says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:51 AM
    And on it goes…. So next this moves to the full appeals court.

    —-

    Um…no. The next appellate court would be the US Supreme Court. And I for one would be a little disappointed if they took a case like this – or if the Patriots actually went that far. Talk about tarnishing an image.

    He might have other legal recourse but “the full appeals court” isn’t one of them.

  42. Jimmy G will start and pull a Matt Cassell. Then the Pats will trade him for a million picks (cause in the NFL any QB can be traded for higher than valued picks) and the team will laugh off into the sunset.

  43. they ruled that Godell has the authority to suspend him.

    the decision is correct based on the CBA.

    I doubt the USSC will hear the appeal, but if they do, it could be disastrous to the NFL.

    My bet is that Godell now relents and cuts the suspension to two games if Brady does not appeal.

    My hope is he does appeal and the USSC throws out the CBA as a one sided monopolistic agreement that the players had no negotiation ability.

    The new seat will be appointed by Hillary, it will be awesome.

  44. I hate the Patriots more than anyone but this is really getting old. It’s become a personal vendetta between Goodell and the Patriots. Just move on and let’s play football.

  45. With a congress that brings a snowball to the senate and denies climate change, is it any surprise that we have a court which allows an individual to lose income, prestige, and playing time because the NFL also denies science?

  46. NFLPA: the weakest union is in the most powerful league.

    Good job guys.

    Read the decision, people who think Brady cheated: it says that it doesn’t matter if Goodell’s decision was based on factual errors, it was his decision.

    Also, 2-1 decision, Berman ruled for him before while tearing NFL a new one, and left out more that he hadn’t put in the decision, and it’s back in his court.

    There is no way Brady serves this suspension.

  47. and exactly…how in the world does it benefit the NFL to frame or go on a witch hunt to denigrate the integrity of your biggest star ! It doesn’t. The integrity of the game is now tainted. There will always be an asterik on those wins. That does not benefit the NFL. Most companies would just sweep this under the rug(and maybe the NFL should have done that !) He cheated. Period.

  48. The Bastions of Integrity win…Smarmy, Goodell, Jerrah “Greg Hardy is a leader Jones” Jim “29000 in cash and a dead woman in my apartment”Irsay. Biscotti..”I never saw the Ray Rice Tape”. Be very afaid NFL you have poked the bear yet again.

  49. They just ruled that the league had the authority to suspend him under the CBA.

    League is still corrupt and can’t understand simple science, though.

  50. Before anyone gets on this about Sceince and Gas Laws let me offer the following. The appeal was over the CBA and the League’s ability to wield its own justice.

    Players should not have agreed to (nor the Patriots ownership) such sweeping power at the Commissioners level. But they did, and the rest is history.

    Whether you want to chat about all that other stuff is up to you.

  51. I think the whole thing is BS!! And “NO” i’m not a Patriots fan. But if ya really wanna punish a player, make it the last 4 games of the season, not the first 4. You wont lose a division in the first 4 games, but you sure as hell can lose it in the last 4!!

  52. My pats will still see the the other 5 AFC teams in the playoffs and then the lone NFC team in the Super Bowl. Haters rejoice for now. And then tuck your tail when my pats kick your ass!

  53. The only downside is that Kissing Suzy Kolber isn’t around anymore to give us the phonetically accurate 500 word freakout of Pats fans. “It’s ovah! It’s clee-ah. The oth-ah teams couldn’t stap the Tawmmy Brady erah. So the NFL did it far yah. It’s a dahhhk day.”

  54. newpairofsox says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:50 AM

    Now watch the Pats go undefeated, just to thumb their noses and Roger

    =======

    that’s exactly what you guys said last year. are the patriots going to be angrier this year than last?

    maybe they’ll thumb their noses harder than last year.

    i know! they just need to get their hands on video tapes of their opponents defensive calls. that’ll help them go undefeated for sure.

  55. “It’s only because he didn’t cooperate.”

    Yep. Obstructing an investigation apparently costs four games.

    Next?

  56. ……..Honestly, If the FAN’s have had enough with Goodell and new-age owners, boycotting 3 or 4 games would get their attention. But the owners know football fans are like addicts and couldn’t stop watching in for one week.

  57. Let’s say Brady is guilty. He gets 4 games for altering a football.

    MLB rules state a pitcher gets an automatic 10 games for doctoring a baseball. If you take into account the 162 games played in MLB and the 16 games played in the NFL, Brady should only get 1 game.

    Is Brady guilty? Likely. Was the punishment too harsh? Likely

  58. Have always disliked the Boston fans in all sports & it’s just sports so no matter what it doesn’t matter at all, its all just fun.

    This is once again the NFL getting away with making crap up. This commissioner is turning fans away from the game. Every time you hear his name you get negative thoughts. If Roger is speaking or behind some type of cause you don’t listen. Roger is the face of ruining the football experience.

    Though I did get to see a glimpse of the future of football last evening …a 7 on 7 HS flag football league. When did this garbage begin?

  59. A short blurb, that’s all? If Brady had won this appeal, we would have been flooded with content. Finally, he gets what he deserved. The “Ideal Gas Law” defense worked at first, but the chewbaca defense won this for the NFL.

  60. SCOTUS is the next step but they have to agree to hear it. I’ll be shocked if they accept the application but if they do I see the vote being 4-4 meaning it defaults to the Fed Appeals Court decision.

    Chances of winning in NE week 2 just went up for my Phins. Not discounting Jimmy G as a viable replacement but he ain’t Brady.

  61. anonymousraven1 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:54 AM
    For all those who are saying “It’ll just be appealed again” … You have an automatic right to appeal to a Circuit Court, like the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, which issued the relevant opinion today. The only level of appeal after this is the Supreme Court of the United States, which only hears significantly less than 10% of cases, and almost assuredly won’t waste their time with this. It really may be over.

    ******************************************************

    Wrong – MMQB spelled out that Brady can now appeal now to the same members of the 2nd district court, and then to the full court or skip to the USSC.

    (Not going to link to a competing site, just google it.)

  62. Round 3 coming up. When one of these judges said it was so obvious Brady ordered the balls deflated- with ZERO- evidence you knew the fix was in. No problem. Here we go again.

  63. Deceased U.S. Senator Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania would be very happy with this latest ruling, which is now once again a true travesty of justice in the United States. The haters will be out in full force and rejoice, also once again until the same system goes after them or their team or player of choice. Since this 2016 Presidential primaries have been going on our country has now become on a level with a 3rd world justice system. Hate all you want but history will prove you wrong once again. This in not over! Tom Brady is innocent and all clear minds have wholeheartedly come to this conclusion after the facts have been thoroughly studied over and over. Roger Goodell has clearly abused his powers but we know what he is. This is another bag job to fight through. The rest of you must be miserable souls.

  64. “…more probable than not…”

    Does that mean that they think there’s a 51% chance that he did it? Where does that hold water? Anywhere?

  65. I wouldn’t celebrate just yet non Pats fans. And I get all the hate but this is bigger than the Pats. These judges just pretty much said Goodell can do whatever he wants proof be damned. Anyone that thinks that’s good for the game needs a check up from the neck up

  66. Everybody needs to calm down and go back to sleep on this one.It is FAR from over.This was just about the NFL having the right to suspend Brady.Now it will go back to the original judge and a even bigger can of worms is about to be opened.This will not be over for well over another year.

  67. Science means nothing when rich people want to get their way. Fairness, nah, life isn’t fair. Those in power do not need to justify their actions. Rules not followed, too bad. Lawyers lying in court and stating opinions as facts, doesn’t matter.

    People with power helping other people with power justify their stupidity.

  68. “Mind boggling the NFL would continue with this sham!!!”

    Actually, if Brady had taken his medicine this would all be over now. The Pats wouldn’t have won the Super Bowl last year and they’d have their quarterback for the entire 2016 season

    Oh well!

  69. its apparent that peoples emotions, not logic, rule their opinion about this.
    Have those who relish in this forgotten that the science used to “prove” this allegation is suspect at best, and quite frankly easily refutable?!? smh im all for punishing cheaters, and im not a pats fan (AZ native, #Birdgang), but if this sham can be done to Brady, watch out..your team might be next.

  70. LMAO!!!!! Hey Cheat Nation, the is the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals Haters as well? ALLLLLLLL of the Judges?????

    Rock on Roger. Fan Boy Army cannot stop you!

  71. reddzen says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:59 AM
    publikwerks says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:51 AM
    And on it goes…. So next this moves to the full appeals court.

    —-

    Um…no. The next appellate court would be the US Supreme Court. And I for one would be a little disappointed if they took a case like this – or if the Patriots actually went that far. Talk about tarnishing an image.

    He might have other legal recourse but “the full appeals court” isn’t one of them.

    ******************************************

    Well, not being a legal scholar, I think I will trust MMQBs breakdown that in fact, Brady can still appeal to the 3 members who just rules, and then to the full 2nd circuit.

  72. People on this site are so dumb. This says nothing about guilt and everything about the NFL power.

    They’ll come for your team next, right KC?

  73. Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Patriot fans. We’ve had to suffer your constant WHINING on EVERY SINGLE thread for the past year and a half. Just go away, you and your cheating, lying QB.

  74. This doesn’t look good for Kessler’s case vs. the NCAA.

    New Rule: treat court cases like Super Bowls. Just because you reach the Conference Championship, it doesn’t mean you haven’t won anything.

  75. I am still confused how supposed under deflated footballs helped Brady when it was the running game that destroyed the Colts. Look at the stats from their 2 meetings that year.
    Get your facts straight before just posting “cheaters” and try to back it up with some well thought out response.
    You hate us because you ain’t us:)

  76. As a Bills fan who generally despises Brady and the Patriots due to their bi-annual murdering of my favorite football team, I feel bad for the Pats on this one. This whole “scandal” got so blown out of proportion and at this point is just absurd. Lose a first round pick and 4 game suspension? That’s pretty ridiculous. Any fan would be upset if this happened to their team over something this silly.

  77. They “broke” what amounts to a useless, stupid rule because each team brings their own balls. Ever seen a video of how balls are scuffed up and conditioned? They work the hell out of them! Who cares if Brady likes them a bit under and Rodgers a bit over? They are the guys who have to throw them and it’s not like the other team’s QB has to adjust to their preference! Just get rid of this dumb rule already… And this is coming from a Raider fan, BTW, who has no love for the Pats and owe thier first SB to another selectively enforced dumb rule: the Tuck rule.

  78. Fake! Fake! Fake! NFL Drama for the sheep…

    Brady will serve 0 games and New England will get their 1st round pick back! GUARANTEED!

  79. I’ve read the opinion, and it’s a 2-1 decision that could be reheard in banc, by all judges on the panel, but it’s long odds- I’ve had many cases in that and other U.S. Circuit Courts cases, and only had it happen once- from a 2-1 decision.

    Basically, the the majority says that the arbitrator acted within the scope of the collective bargaining agreement; the dissent agrees but says that Goddell went beyond the findings of the arbitrator and the Wells report in finding that Brady actively participated in a scheme as opposed to the ‘generally aware’ finding in the Wells’ report; and that length of the suspension was out of line.

    Odds of in banc, or Supreme Court review are maybe 20% ; and even if granted, the full Second Circuit or the Supreme Court would have to stay the suspension – in short, the legal equivalent of a Hail Mary.

  80. This is beyond ridiculous. The guy should have been suspended last year. The patriots havent been able to win a superbowl without the word gate added to it.

  81. From what the judge said, it appears Brady took some bad advise from his lawyer when he destroyed his cell phone in the car before getting out to get interviewed. And then his lie about why he did it.

    Destruction of evidence was incriminating.

  82. The lower court overstepped its bounds by trying the case instead of sticking to what they had authority to rule on which was “Did Goodell have the authority under the CBA to suspend Brady.” Had nothing to do with PSI, nothing to do with the Brady “freebies” (the same he provides to PFT to defend him), nothing to do with what gauge they used and nothing to do with the procedure for handling to balls. It had to do with the commissioners power under the CBA, nothing more, nothing less. Had the lower court handled the case correctly, all this would have been over last year. Someone should sue the Manhattan court for not doing their job.

  83. Well at least Brady will be back for the Week 7 Patriots vs. Steelers game at Heinz Field. I do not want ANY excuses when Small Ben in Big Games hangs his sweet, sweet, 13 points of offense on them. And by that I mean I only want excuses from my fellow Steeler fans about injuries and suspensions, etc.

  84. Take it to the Supreme Court. The Commissioner is probably giddy about this decision that confirms his power. Hope that Goodell realizes that he is smearing the reputation and character of the greatest player in the history of the game.
    Brady is completely innocent. Take it to the Supreme Court.

  85. They can ask the supreme court to hear the case, but the supreme court will probably tell them to pound sand. Brady won’t play, come back week 4, they will make the playoffs, and no one will care.

  86. TO BE CLEAR – THE ONLY WAY THIS GETS REVERSED AGAIN IS IF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TAKES IT FOR REVIEW….WHICH VERY, VERY RARELY HAPPENS. THIS SUSPENSION WILL HAPPEN UNLESS THE SUPREMES FEEL THERE IS SOME LEGAL PRECEDENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED ON FURTHER APPEAL.

  87. Go ahead and gloat, finally the NFL got fair treatment! It was so obvious that they are upstanding and full of integrity! They should never have been subjected to this indignity! So glad that the 2nd Circuit emphasized the unlimited power that Goodell can wield and now there is precedent! But we know he would never misuse or abuse that or direct it at our team because our team would never cheat!

  88. TO BE CLEAR – THE ONLY WAY THIS GETS REVERSED AGAIN IS IF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TAKES IT FOR REVIEW….WHICH VERY, VERY RARELY HAPPENS. THIS SUSPENSION WILL HAPPEN UNLESS THE SUPREMES FEEL THERE IS SOME LEGAL PRECEDENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED ON FURTHER APPEAL.

    The remand to judge Berman is with instructions to reinstate the suspension. He cannot disobey those instructions. Only the court of last resort can help Brady now….good luck with that!

  89. I wonder how many of the commentators would accept the Wells Report and disregard of the Ideal Gas Law if their employment was at risk. Having said that, Goodell has now turned draft week into year two of Deflategate, offended sponsors of the nationally televised games Brady will miss and resurrected the idiotic debate over the clearly impeachable report. What a fiasco for the NFL!

  90. acebandito says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:02 PM

    The only downside is that Kissing Suzy Kolber isn’t around anymore to give us the phonetically accurate 500 word freakout of Pats fans. “It’s ovah! It’s clee-ah. The oth-ah teams couldn’t stap the Tawmmy Brady erah. So the NFL did it far yah. It’s a dahhhk day.”
    ——————–
    Dude, where’s my caw???

  91. alwaters9 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:52 AM

    Supreme Court, here it comes.
    __________________________________

    I can practically guarantee that SCOTUS will decline to hear the case; they have much bigger fish to fry this year.

  92. publikwerks says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:04 PM

    Wrong – MMQB spelled out that Brady can now appeal now to the same members of the 2nd district court, and then to the full court or skip to the USSC.

    (Not going to link to a competing site, just google it.)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Appeals Court closed the loop on it going back to the 2nd Court of Appeals by ruling on the open issues Berman didn’t rule on. It’s over.

  93. This can’t be right! Brady is the golden child and everything he touches turns into a rainbow. He’s perfect and wins everything. This will all be resolved by the power of the Patriot god, aka, Belichick. I say the courts award them by declaring them 2017 Super Bowl Champions and appointing Bob Kraft as the new commissioner and president of the United States.

  94. psubeerman21 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:13 PM

    They can ask the supreme court to hear the case, but the supreme court will probably tell them to pound sand. Brady won’t play, come back week 4, they will make the playoffs, and no one will care.
    __________________________________

    You mean week 5, right?

  95. This isn’t even about whether he cheated or not. This ruling was only about whether the commish has the authority.

    The Dolphins, Saints, and Chiefs have been through the same BS from this league. Bully gate? Bounty gate? Tamper gate?

    Krafts biggest mistake was supporting his buddy Goodell when those bogus investigations happened.

    If it makes all the loser franchises feel better to call us cheaters then knock yourself out but you know way down deep where it hurts that the patriots were just better. Brady looked pretty good last year throwing a fully inflated ball, didn’t he? My kids know why the air pressure in the Colts and Patriots balls were low. Because it was January!!!

    Brady’s team will go after the PSI info and Brady plays week 1…and even if he doesn’t Pats still make the playoffs. Enjoy the victory for now.

  96. I have no real dog in this fight but…

    At what point does the Colts investigation begin. How is it that the PSI in the New England Patriots footballs can’t be because of science “Ideal Gas Law”, but 3 of 4, Colts footballs that where below the minimum PSI are? Did it not come out that the Colts started with a higher PSI than New England’s?

    Like I said I have no dog in the fight but it seems clear that someone from Indy had to of deflated there balls if the Gas Law can’t reasonably explain any of this?

  97. citizenstrange says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:13 PM

    Well at least Brady will be back for the Week 7 Patriots vs. Steelers game at Heinz Field. I do not want ANY excuses when Small Ben in Big Games hangs his sweet, sweet, 13 points of offense on them. And by that I mean I only want excuses from my fellow Steeler fans about injuries and suspensions, etc.
    __________________________________

    “Small” Ben? You mean the guy with 3 SB appearances and 2 rings? That guy, who’s had lousy offensive line play in recent years?

  98. All the hate seems to center on a theme of perhaps now we have a chance to beat the Pats. If they are cheating then does missing their starting QB for 4 games, make them any easier to beat or is it because you know they are a better team?

  99. So..

    You Cheatriot fans thought your boy was going to get off???

    Made up all those bogus excuses about the cold and stuff. But you forgot about the text messages didn’t you??

    When your ball deflator admitted deflating the balls for Tom as long as Tom supplied him with signed Jerseys. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.

    No first round draft pick and no Brady. Your effectively done for this year. Stop cheating and this won’t happen to you again.

  100. Congratulations haters. Totalitarianism wins over Democracy. Goodell now has complete power to do whatever he wants to any player and any team, and only be accountable to himself as the arbitrator.

  101. Patriots sycophants, it sucks to be you. No 1st round draft pick and no Tom Brady for the first four games. Your division got tougher. The Jets are the team most likely to take the crown away from you it would appear. Perhaps the Dolphins may surprise. The Bills? Rex Ryan: HA HA HA, no chance.

  102. My goodness!
    Please insert a small micro chip into all pigskins!
    Let it monitor the PSI, Temperature, Humidity, Elevation, GPS, and make that information REAL TIME and available to the public, broadcasters and audience.

    Oh what? The NFL doesn’t want to do that? I wonder why that wouldn’t?

    Because that information might be damning to the NFL’s ongoing court appeals from the Brady Deflat Gate? WE might learn that all of the aforementioned parameters do, in fact, fluctuate regularly?

    Say it aint so, NFL. Billionaires tell me why the cost of applying such measures is bad business!

  103. The Pats still make the playoffs. This just means they won’t be able to tank the last couple weeks of the regular season.

  104. we should issue an arrest warrant for Goodell if he should ever be stupid enough to step foot in the commonwealth again and hold him for perjury.

  105. ReligionIsForIdiots says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:50 AM
    Joke of a franchise. Only team in NFL history with so many scandals in a ten year period.

    Funny how all these scandals coincide with the only period in their history when they were relevant.

    Stripe all titles. Suspend franchise operations for three years and forfeit all wins since Belicheat took over.
    ======================================
    These “scandals” coincide with the GOAT QB of all time leading the most dominant run in NFL history and everybody wants to see the King fall. It’s human nature.

    Look, Kraft and Belichick had no idea what Brady would become. They took a chance and accidentally won the greatest pro sports prize of all time. For years the owners have collectively worked to maintain parity so all 32 teams can share the wealth. Then some dork 6th round afterthought came out of nowhere and threw a giant wrench in the machinery by leading the greatest sustained run of success in NFL history. Kraft and Belichick are just as surprised as we are.

    Mangini ratted out Belichick because he knew he’d never beat the Pats as long as they had Brady. Former Jets executives are now NFL executives and they’re bitter. The Colts have been pissed every since 2003 because they’re #1 Golden Boy Peyton was supposed to be the face of the league until Brady messed that plan up. Jim Harbaugh got humiliated by Brady telling him to “learn the rules”. They wanted to keep the Pats from winning and created the entire #Framegate debacle.

    Anyone who says wins and Super Bowls should be stripped are just idiots. That’s not how it works. Every team would have to have every win stripped because no team is 100% squeaky clean, including the Patriots. But if you honestly believe they did anything that every other team hasn’t done, then you’re just plain stupid. If the team you root for had every little speck of their existence critiqued like the Pats, you would have to demand that every one of their wins be stripped.

    But nobody monitors or critiques your team because they don’t win, therefore, nobody cares.

    The legality that no court can step into a collectively bargained arbitration doesn’t apply when all basic fairness is trampled on, which the NFL clearly did. Brady will get a stay, then appeal again and won’t serve a single game.

  106. braunliesandcheats says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:04 PM

    Everybody except for the Patriots fans (sheep) knew he was guilty. Poor Tom. Ha.

    =========================

    I’m no Patriots fan, just someone who likes to use my brain… and I certainly don’t “know” he was guilty and neither do you. The NFL never produced any evidence to show Brady was involved with the deflating of balls. Hell, the league couldn’t even prove the balls were actually deflated intentionally. If you “know” Brady was guilty, you’re actually the sheep in this case…. blindly accepting the narrative the NFL fed you without proof.

    And don’t even try to say that’s what this court battle was about. The court battle was never about guilt, but whether the league had the authority under the CBA to suspend Brady for “general awareness”.

    One other thing I would point out: Last season the NFL implemented random pressure checks at half time. Know how they could clear this all up? Release the results. Did balls tend to lose a lot of pressure during the first half, especially when its cold out? The NFL knows the answer to that question right now… and they aren’t telling. Don’t you think if the results supported their claim that the Patriots balls were intentionally deflated those numbers would have been released the second the season ended? The fact they are keeping them quiet is interesting.

  107. hatersgonnahatehate says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:02 PM
    It goes back to Berman now, who took issue with several other points of the case.
    ********************
    Actually it doesn’t go back to Berman. The appeals court ruled on those issues as well. Citing that they had no merit.

  108. The facts of the case all prove there never was any cheating. Goodell based his punishments by flat-out lying (as shown in the transcript of the appeal he heard regarding Brady’s cellphone), by doubling back and covering his own butt, and then doubling down again. Citing as proof against Brady text messages the league never proved were relevant to anything makes people a fool.

  109. 11stanleycups says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:17 PM
    publikwerks says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:04 PM

    Wrong – MMQB spelled out that Brady can now appeal now to the same members of the 2nd district court, and then to the full court or skip to the USSC.

    (Not going to link to a competing site, just google it.)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Appeals Court closed the loop on it going back to the 2nd Court of Appeals by ruling on the open issues Berman didn’t rule on. It’s over.

    *********************************************************
    MMQB wrote(3/17):
    “With this decision, the Court could directly reinstate the suspension or remand (send back) to Berman with specific instructions. Brady would retain appeal rights, however, to (1) petition for a rehearing in front of the same panel of judges and then to the entire group of Second circuit judges, and (2) a potential appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. In all cases, Brady would request a stay of his suspension while on appeal. Thus, this long-running series could continue for many more months or even years.”

    Now, unless I am mistaken, which I could be, that even excluding a rehearing in front of the same 3 judges, the full circuit court remains an option.

  110. asseenonokra says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:06 PM

    “…more probable than not…”

    Does that mean that they think there’s a 51% chance that he did it? Where does that hold water? Anywhere?
    __________________________________

    In the CBA, under which Roger Goodell has sole discretion to determine whether “51%” represents conduct detrimental to the NFL – fair or not.

  111. Wake up everyone.

    This has NOTHING to do with whether or not Brady is guilty. This Is a Union issue.
    Roger Goodell just got cemented as the
    Dictator of the NFL.

    Good luck when it happens to your team.

    If I am Brady, I sue for defamation of character as there was no proof that anything was done to the balls (Colts balls were tested and 3 of 4 were deflated).

    You all must realize by now Roger is bad for the game and must go. Think about it. Stop thinking about the Pats that you hate and think about what this does for Roger.
    Can you say “Kim Jong-Il”

  112. This is all fake!!!! NFL False Drama…

    Pats will get their 1st round pick back and Brady will play every game next year… NFL knows Brady = ratings…

  113. maddenisfordorks says:

    Didn’t this happen once?

    Doesn’t he do some kind of appeal now and get to play anyway?

    ————————————————————–

    I think he’s done…. next step is the Supreme court and there is definitley not a question of constitutional law here so they won’t hear it…. about time a discipline decision sticks against all of these players who think the rules don’t apply to them

  114. I hope Tawmey takes it all the way, obtains a court victory that actually looks at the facts and Jolly Old Roger and the NFL pay dearly…

    What the defamation of this worth?

    Perhaps billions?

    Go Tawmey, Go!!!!

  115. Good to know that the US Court system can focus in on the CBA and confirm what we already knew,

    Goodell can do whatever he wants to whoever he wants with no proof or reason required.

    Claims of cheating are as unsupportable as they were day 1. But go ahead if it makes you feel better. After all, if you’re not a Pats fan, you probably need something to cheer about, other than football.

  116. This turned personal for Goodell. Its crazy for the NFL to keep pursuing this. The punishment is worse than the alleged crime.

    Tom’s phone must had pics of him doing Goodell’s wife and daughter.

  117. all about art46 and nothing else. All the Court is sayin is that Goodell has the power to make up evidence and be judge, jury and executioner!

  118. I don’t understand why this FOOTBALL issue is going through the public court system…nobody got killed or robbed…it’s a football matter & should be settled internally. Millionaires fighting Millionaires & Billionaires and using tax payer $$.

    They should sell the rights to TV to televise court sessions to recoup the costs.

  119. kevinpowell says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:58 AM
    Brady’s 4th SB is now null and void. He cheated. He had been cheating. No one suddenly starts deflating the ball for 1 game. It’s not about the blow out against the Colts. It’s about every other win – if the deflated ball helped them convert 1 first down then the game is tainted. How many games turn on 1 or 2 plays. The Patriots have a history and culture of cheating. Sadly – how many players have we really wanted to believe weren’t cheating – and we found out they were. Here’s another one.

    —————-
    So then since the Colts balls were also under-inflated you are saying that Luck and the Colts were deflating balls all along then? You myst be because you claim that “nobody deflates balls for just one game”. So when is Goodell going to suspend Luck?

  120. What a bunch of losers….this just guaranteed pats win Sb 51 when a pissed off Brady takes it out in the rest of the league. Love the fact that he’s kicked your asses so much over the years that y’all are blind to the facts here, and just need some small hope your team can actually compete with the pats, especially the rest of the AFC east. Not gonna happen.period.

  121. For everyone talking about going to the supreme court… shut up. The supreme court has real issues to deal with. I love football, but in the grand scheme, none of this actually matters.

    It would be the equivalent of asking the supreme court to rule on whether or not Justin from The Bachelor was really allowed to make out with Jessica in the hot tub when he had already told Katie how much he cared about her.

  122. Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2016, 12:10 PM EDT
    Richard M. Berman
    AP
    When Judge Richard Berman issued his ruling scuttling the Tom Brady suspension, Judge Berman refrained from addressing multiple other arguments supporting the potential reversal of the discipline imposed on Brady as a result of the #Deflategate situation. The move was viewed as an opportunity for Judge Berman to overturn the suspension a second time, if the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit disagreed with Judge Berman on the initial grounds for wiping out the suspension.

    In reversing Judge Berman, however, the Second Circuit opted to rule on all open issues, blocking any further effort by Judge Berman to defeat the suspension.

  123. The only way for the NFL to level the playing field; make something up and suspend the best player so everyone else can catch up.

    This lack of integrity is why the NFL doesn’t get any of my money.

  124. Tom Brady finally became a good role-model in teaching the generations to come that cheating always comes with a consequence. Winners never cheat and cheaters never win. Thank-You Tom Brady!

  125. It’s quite clear that Brady had the equipment guys deflate the footballs–his text messages to them, and from them to him, are all the proof one needs. A three-judge panel has reviewed all the evidence and reinstated the suspension, and rightly so. Why Judge Berman skuttled it in the first place is incomprehensible. Brady’s “who me?” defense is laughable. We’re talking about the Patriots here–a franchise that never misses a chance to bend or break a rule that might lead to more victories.

  126. dohczeppelin says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:42 PM
    For everyone talking about going to the supreme court… shut up. The supreme court has real issues to deal with. I love football, but in the grand scheme, none of this actually matters.

    It would be the equivalent of asking the supreme court to rule on whether or not Justin from The Bachelor was really allowed to make out with Jessica in the hot tub when he had already told Katie how much he cared about her.
    —————————————————————-
    So when a player on your team is suspended because the commissioner wants him suspended I hope you maintain that thought. Fair or unfair, proven or not your guy is out cuzz the commish has the power to do what he wants. That was the ruling made.

  127. For those who think this will be appealed to the Supreme Court, keep this little factoid in mind:

    The Republicans steadfastly refuse to consider any Supreme Court candidate to replace the late Orrin Hatch. Because Obama will be the POTUS until January 21, a new court justice will not be sworn in until after Super Bowl 51.

    Until that time, there is no tie-breaker justice sitting on the bench. So IF the Supreme Court decides to hear the case, and if the justices are split even, the decision by the Second Circuit stands.

    But regardless, don’t pin your hopes on the Supreme Court taking the case, they most likely won’t.

  128. Regardless of what happens with Brady, the NFL is going to regret this. Can’t wait for negotiations on the next CBA. The players now know that relying on the NFL to act in good faith a mistake. No more generic language. Only acts and penalties that are specifically spelled out will be allowed. The players are currently at risk for not only having to sit out games at the whim of the Commish, the Commish has blanket authority to steal money from the players. And that is exactly what Goodell and the NFL is doing to Brady. In the case of the players, it’s a live and learn lesson that won’t be forgotten.

  129. Yes Patriots fans, I agree with you on one thing. This is silly. The sad part of that statement is: why would Tom Brady jeopardize his legacy on something so silly? That’s the real tragedy in this story. If he’s truly the talent everyone believes him to be, why risk it?

  130. ohand16 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 1:03 PM
    Tom Brady did NOTHING wrong
    *************
    Legally he did.

  131. The fact that NFL’s lawyers had to lie in court about the facts of the case tells you all you need to know.

    This will be good for Brady in the end. Now it goes back to Bermans court, where he gets to judge the facts and guilt. Previously he only got to judge the process itself. And he still saw through the NFL’s BS. Now that he gets to actually decide the facts, hell blow the entire case to shreds and show the NFL was on a witch hunt.

  132. Everyone saying he cheated, glad he’s suspended, or liking statements against Brady….obviously have not followed this at all.

    Keep some facts in mind:

    1. Simple science proved that no deliberate deflation occured.
    2. The NFL (under oath) told a Judge there was no evidence of tampering.

    Not sure why people think Brady is guilty of deflating footballs. I guess either ignorant or but hurt.

  133. This isn’t the end of the story. I hope he fights it til the bitter end.

    Yes, the commissioner’s office has the right to suspend players. I don’t think anyone would debate that. What the commissioner’s office DOES NOT have the right to do is suspend a player based on the “We don’t have proof, but we just feel he’s guilty” argument.

    As for all of you on the “Cheaters gonna cheat” rant…NO team can be as good as the Patriots have been for the last 15 years if they had to rely on cheating. It would have been impossible to do for that length of time. You just hate the fact that the team is THAT good.

  134. For those who say “it’s all about the CBA” and the players should never have agreed to give Goodell such unlimited power, the law still implies that such power must be “reasonable.” The fact is that his power isn’t unlimited. If it were, then he could just suspend anyone he wants at any time. Obviously, the Courts have placed a “reasonableness” requirement as the NFL has lost the last several disciplinary actions that found its way to the Courts. And this too, shall be overturned.

  135. dukeearl says:
    Apr 25, 2016 1:05 PM

    ohand16 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 1:03 PM
    Tom Brady did NOTHING wrong
    *************
    Legally he did.
    ————-

    What law did Tom Brady break?

  136. Will this thing ever end?

    For those that think it’s “unfair” because deflating the ball didn’t matter and they would have one anyway. He did inflate the ball and he did destroy his phone. He should be punished . . . period. I’m not sure it should be 4 games but maybe 2.

    That being said. It doesn’t change the fact that Brady is one of the greatest QB’s of all time.

  137. If this were a murder case, Goodell – and the courts – would happily sentence Brady to Death Row for circumstantial evidence of murder

    … despite the fact that the “victim” was alive and well and strolled into the courtroom

    The only way the NFL can assert that any actual deflation took place is to pretend the Laws of Physics don’t apply

    So sad that the NFL owners and commissioner themselves have now proven themselves corrupt and unfair. There is no integrity on the field when the Commissioner cheats off the field.

  138. It’s amazing how so many hate Goodell, yet he handles deflate-gate with such incompetence and he’s totally awesome!

    This whole process has been a joke and the NFL should be embarrassed. This is coming from a Dolphins fan. I guess I’m happy that the Dolphins will be playing the Patriots without Brady, but the simple truth is that he should be on the field week one.

    All the Patriots haters, Brady haters, etc. are pathetic.

  139. bradjamesbroncositaly says:
    Apr 25, 2016 1:00 PM

    Yes Patriots fans, I agree with you on one thing. This is silly. The sad part of that statement is: why would Tom Brady jeopardize his legacy on something so silly? That’s the real tragedy in this story. If he’s truly the talent everyone believes him to be, why risk it?
    ———————–

    The most obvious answer is that he didn’t.

    Winning the Super Bowl, along with his performance last season, would lead anyone with a brain to that conclusion.

  140. This all goes back to the destruction of the cell phone which held key evidence for or against Brady. I’m convinced (die hard Broncos fan) that TB destroyed it because it held intimate info between Giselle and himself, and honorably he fell on sword to protect her.

  141. EJ says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:48 PM

    Tom Brady finally became a good role-model in teaching the generations to come that cheating always comes with a consequence. Winners never cheat and cheaters never win. Thank-You Tom Brady!
    ———————————————————

    The problems is they did win the year of cheating scandal. So, yes, cheaters do win.

  142. EJ says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:48 PM

    Tom Brady finally became a good role-model in teaching the generations to come that cheating always comes with a consequence. Winners never cheat and cheaters never win. Thank-You Tom Brady!
    ————————————–

    I wonder if you should be charged for withholding evidence? Clearly, you have proof in order to assert that he did in fact cheat. Especially given that the NFL twice told a Federal Judge that there was no evidence. To the contrary…science proved that it was just that…science at play.

  143. If Tom Brady had done nothing wrong he would have preserved the text messages on his cell phone so he could be exonerated. Instead he destroyed his cell phone. Evidence either sets you free or implicates you. Brady obviously knew he was guilty in tampering with the equipment personnel to alter the weight and feel of the ball because he preferred an under inflated ball. A minor offense? Ok, but what rules should be enforced and which ones ignored? If you’re arguing for Brady, its obvious that you’re a Patriot Homer!

  144. basedrum777 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 2:03 PM

    So who’s hoping he retires rather than take the suspension?
    —————————

    I’m hoping he takes the suspension. It’s more of a detriment to the NFL in general if he isn’t playing.

  145. The lower court made a huge mistake in overturning the suspension in the first place. It was done under the collective bargaining union contract and those things are set in stone. The judge on that case should be removed from the bench and stripped of the season tickets that Kraft gave him.

  146. If you’re a New England sports fan there is only one course of action:

    Stop watching football.

    Stop going to the games.

    Stop buying the jerseys.

    Just stop.

  147. As evidenced by the 2008 season, we don’t need a QB to win. Belichick can plug anyone in at QB and we will win. It is our system that is wins the games not the QB. Eat your hearts out haters.

  148. Regardless of where you fall on this, I’m still baffled how the appellate court could decide that article 46 supersedes collectively bargained provisions in the CBA. More importantly an equipment violation can now be interpreted to violate the integrity of the game.

    Players better hope they wear the correct shoes and socks from here on out. Because that’s where we are right now. Just sayin.

    Wow. Just wow.

  149. noknoknokpenny, I actually hope football dies. It’s going to anyway. More and more players are retiring very early due to head injury concerns. How many ex-players have died/committed suicide due to CTE? And now we get Thurman Thomas.

    At this rate, without any changes, the NFL will be done in 50 years.

  150. bradjamesbroncositaly says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:21 PM
    Patriots sycophants, it sucks to be you. ______________________________

    Yeah, it does suck – since 2000 we only have 12 of 13 division titles, 6 AFC championships, and 4 Super Bowl championships. It’s tough but somehow we’ll get through it.

    btw – I’ll take Brady for 12 games over your QB for 16

  151. Listen up, you haters; because of the player’s union approving of CBA wording it gives Goodell supreme authority to do as he pleases, even WITHOUT evidence! Yes, that’s what these judges just decided.
    You hear me? This could happen to your favorite player next!

  152. Still no proof. For all you Pats haters, we love you. You crack us up. Don’t worry, Gillette Stadium will continue to sell out. If the suspension stands, Jimmy G will win at least two of four, Brady and Belichick will take the Pats to the playoffs and will likely appear in the Super Bowl. For most of your teams, there is no shot at the playoffs – NONE – we really do understand your envy disguised as pathetic righteousness. For the 5-6 other contenders, Patriots Nation looks forward to seeing you in January!

  153. Until the NFL starts overturning SB wins for PED usage (a MUCH more serious violation), then any talk of SB wins being vacated over ball pressure is beyond hypocritical. Especially when you consider that a far more similar violation to ball deflation would be the use of stickum, which the league says “affects the integrity of the competition and can give a team an unfair advantage” and yet merits nothing more than a small fine (and a collective yawn from most fans, ala Jerry Rice).

  154. 13chpshps says:
    Apr 25, 2016 2:12 PM
    If Tom Brady had done nothing wrong he would have preserved the text messages on his cell phone so he could be exonerated.

    I love this one. As if, if he did turn over his phone and nothing incriminating was found that would somehow clear him. More likely people like you would just say he must have deleted anything incriminating. There’s also the fact they already had any convos between Brady/McNally/Jastremski from McNally and Jastremski’s phones. WE know this because Wells/Goodell made the more frequent communications between them after the scandal broke seem suspicious even though it actually makes perfect sense

  155. patsandwannabees says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:28 PM
    Wake up everyone.
    ~content clipped~
    If I am Brady, I sue for defamation of character as there was no proof that anything was done to the balls (Colts balls were tested and 3 of 4 were deflated).
    ****************************
    Only problem with that is there was no defamation of character. Courts just decided that Goodell was within his rights.

  156. jld62 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 10:12 PM
    Until the NFL starts overturning SB wins for PED usage (a MUCH more serious violation), then any talk of SB wins being vacated over ball pressure is beyond hypocritical. Especially when you consider that a far more similar violation to ball deflation would be the use of stickum, which the league says “affects the integrity of the competition and can give a team an unfair advantage” and yet merits nothing more than a small fine (and a collective yawn from most fans, ala Jerry Rice).
    ***********************
    The penalty was not for ball pressure. The penalty was for not cooperating with the league during an investigation.
    That is far more serious than either ball tampering or stickum. Players and teams need to be forthcoming during investigations. Brady and the Patriot organization were not.

  157. The issue was whether the NFL Commissioner had the power to make the decision to suspend Brady. The Court ruled he did have that power according to the CBA. Note that 31 of 32 teams voted to approve the CBA, with only the Pittsburgh Steelers unanimously voting against it for the very reason this matter went to court: The Steelers felt the CBA gave too much power to Roger Goodell; and over the past few years, it’s been proven they were right. NFL teams are stuck with the CBA as it is, with Roger Goodell in full control to do whatever he wants so they only have themselves to blame. Tom Brady can continue to appeal, but IMHO, he’s wasting his money. Take the hit, do the time and save your money for your kids’ college. Moving on…

  158. WHOO-EE! Look at all dem haters! I love all you haters! In your stupidity you’re giving Brady and the Pats more and more ammunition! Great, keep it up! The Pats will kick your sorry team’s ass even more now!

  159. dukeearl says:
    Apr 26, 2016 8:10 AM
    jld62 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 10:12 PM
    Until the NFL starts overturning SB wins for PED usage (a MUCH more serious violation), then any talk of SB wins being vacated over ball pressure is beyond hypocritical. Especially when you consider that a far more similar violation to ball deflation would be the use of stickum, which the league says “affects the integrity of the competition and can give a team an unfair advantage” and yet merits nothing more than a small fine (and a collective yawn from most fans, ala Jerry Rice).
    ***********************
    The penalty was not for ball pressure. The penalty was for not cooperating with the league during an investigation.
    That is far more serious than either ball tampering or stickum. Players and teams need to be forthcoming during investigations. Brady and the Patriot organization were not.
    =========================
    Misdirection. I was addressing the hypocritical notion that the Patriots SB wins should be vacated on the grounds that they had gained an unfair competitive advantage. Lack of cooperation is irrelevant to that point.

  160. “and 100% about the disciplinary parameters of the commissioner.”

    Which is spelled out in the cba, which isnt old. Most fans dont get it, but Brady is being suspended for not cooperating.

  161. cornersss says:
    Apr 26, 2016 2:52 PM
    “and 100% about the disciplinary parameters of the commissioner.”

    Which is spelled out in the cba, which isnt old. Most fans dont get it, but Brady is being suspended for not cooperating.

    Well technically he was suspended last May for “violating the NFL policy on the integrity of the game”. It wasn’t until the appeal in July that the phone came up. The Wells report was being shredded by anyone with a brain and the science all but cleared them so then it became about the phone. But that was at the appeal, he was already suspended.

  162. EJ says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:48 PM
    Tom Brady finally became a good role-model in teaching the generations to come that cheating always comes with a consequence. Winners never cheat and cheaters never win. Thank-You Tom Brady!

    The actions of Colts and the NFL office disprove your claim.

    Besides, this ruling had Z E R O to do with cheating or footballs. It was only ever about article 46. The power to do whatever you want against all logic and reason. Those cheering that Brady is a proven cheater are only showing their jealousy but their ignorance as well.

  163. edgarpoe3 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:57 AM
    I love the “science is being ignored” comments. I’ve played football games in Pennsylvania where temperatures were at least 30 degrees colder than that playoff game. And guess what? The footballs didn’t shrink. If this were really about science and not about finding excuses, wouldn’t it be common knowledge that footballs shrink excessively in cold temperatures? I mean, the first time we hear of this excuse is when Brady gets caught? And let’s not even go into the “Deflator” was just trying to lose weight…:D

    lol OK. So I guess you think the Colts cheated too? I mean the science is bunk so how do we explain the Colts footballs losing pressure? And why was the league concerned about the footballs/PSI inthe playoff game in Minnesota?

    Pretty sad your comment got so many up votes. I mean really lol

  164. Only problem with that is there was no defamation of character. Courts just decided that Goodell was within his rights.

    Goodell equated what Brady was accused of to using PEDs
    Goodell called Brady’s testimony “not credible” while Goodell lied about Brady’s testimony(documented, proven)

    And the biggy: Many believe Brady lied and is a cheater due to lies and twisting of facts

    Sure seems like he’d have a case but I doubt he goes that route. But he is reportedly pretty angry so who knows. But the court ruling has 0 to do with any possible defamation suit. The ruling just says he’s the Commish he can punish as he sees fit, that’s all they ruled on-the CBA and what’s allowed. Strictly concerning the league. He wasn’t granted permission to slander anybody in the real world

  165. Yourteamcheatstoo.com
    Wellsreportcontext.com
    IdealGasLaw.com
    Any article by MFlorio

    At least Pats nation has these feel-good sites articles to click on.

  166. abninf says:
    Apr 25, 2016 12:11 PM

    From what the judge said, it appears Brady took some bad advise from his lawyer when he destroyed his cell phone in the car before getting out to get interviewed. And then his lie about why he did it.

    Destruction of evidence was incriminating.
    ————————–

    He didn’t destroy his cell phone, in the car, before he was interviewed by Wells. He said he got a new phone because he broke his old one. Where is the lie in that?

    Goodell is the one that lied, and characterized it as Brady “destroying” his phone.

    Besides, his cell phone wasn’t evidence, so he could do whatever he wanted with it.

  167. evilhoodyshoody says:
    Apr 26, 2016 8:29 PM
    Only problem with that is there was no defamation of character. Courts just decided that Goodell was within his rights.

    There is absolutely defamation in this case. Goodell made statements that are not only unsupportable, they are outright lies.
    The courts decided that Goodell was within his rights to pass judgement on player discipline with or without cause or evidence. Defaming isn’t listed in the CBA as one of his rights.

  168. evilhoodyshoody says:
    Apr 26, 2016 8:29 PM
    Only problem with that is there was no defamation of character. Courts just decided that Goodell was within his rights.

    Goodell equated what Brady was accused of to using PEDs
    Goodell called Brady’s testimony “not credible” while Goodell lied about Brady’s testimony(documented, proven)

    And the biggy: Many believe Brady lied and is a cheater due to lies and twisting of facts

    Sure seems like he’d have a case but I doubt he goes that route. But he is reportedly pretty angry so who knows. But the court ruling has 0 to do with any possible defamation suit. The ruling just says he’s the Commish he can punish as he sees fit, that’s all they ruled on-the CBA and what’s allowed. Strictly concerning the league. He wasn’t granted permission to slander anybody in the real world
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    He’d have to prove intent. All he has is Goodell doing his job. (wether we like it or not that is what it has become.

  169. dukeearl says:
    Apr 28, 2016 10:43 AM
    evilhoodyshoody says:
    Apr 26, 2016 8:29 PM
    Only problem with that is there was no defamation of character. Courts just decided that Goodell was within his rights.

    Goodell equated what Brady was accused of to using PEDs
    Goodell called Brady’s testimony “not credible” while Goodell lied about Brady’s testimony(documented, proven)

    And the biggy: Many believe Brady lied and is a cheater due to lies and twisting of facts

    Sure seems like he’d have a case but I doubt he goes that route. But he is reportedly pretty angry so who knows. But the court ruling has 0 to do with any possible defamation suit. The ruling just says he’s the Commish he can punish as he sees fit, that’s all they ruled on-the CBA and what’s allowed. Strictly concerning the league. He wasn’t granted permission to slander anybody in the real world
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    He’d have to prove intent. All he has is Goodell doing his job. (wether we like it or not that is what it has become.

    So, Roger would have no issue with handing over his cell phone as well as those of Kensil, Grigson etc. Copies of all messages between them beginning with the Ravens DCG game. We are talking integrity here, right?

  170. Our great QB and coach will win anyway. Go ahead make a new rule, have a bogus sting and lie about it, be ignorant of elemental physics, steal a draft pick. Can’t stop greatness.

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