Settlement of Tom Brady case remains unlikely

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Lawsuits can settle at any time and at any stage. Even now, with Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and the NFL Players Association running out of options, the union and the league can work out an agreement to resolve the situation.

In theory, that can happen. As a practical matter, it likely won’t.

Last year, when the NFL wasn’t exactly operating from a position of strength, Judge Richard Berman had no luck persuading the league to make a significant move toward a compromise. The league’s intransigence apparently irritated Judge Berman, who issued a ruling against the league that was clear and direct and biting.

Now, the NFL holds nearly all the cards. If the league wasn’t inclined to bend last year, it won’t be doing so now — unless, of course, enough owners make it clear to the Commissioner that the time has come to push this cloud away from the sport.

For that to happen, the union and Brady would likely first have to secure a decision from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit to grant a rehearing before the full court. If that occurs, the pendulum will swing away from the league, at least a little bit. Even then, the chances of a settlement would be slim.

“This case could have been settled a long time ago if the NFL was willing to be reasonable,” attorney Jeffrey Kessler said Monday on ESPN Radio, via CSNNE.com.

While the NFL may likewise believe that the union wasn’t being reasonable, the impasse that existed a year ago won’t be any weaker now that the NFL has secured a victory that will be very difficult for Brady and the union to overcome. The NFL had plenty of reasons to budge last year. As of right now, it has none.

111 responses to “Settlement of Tom Brady case remains unlikely

  1. The overturning of the suspension just shows how a slimeball like Kraft worked Berman. Shady things go on in that city. Example #2: Chandler Jones.

  2. This battle is a reflection of the power struggle between Constitutionalists and Progressives.

    WE the PEOPLE (Constitutionalists) vs Big Gov Wash DC (Progressives Liberalism)

    Big Gov wants the US Constitution in a museum and part of old history.
    WE the PEOPLE know that our FREEDOMS are at stake and this country is on the verge of complete socialist takeover ruled by Big Gov & Big Corporations.

    Goodel and oblama = corrupt to the core
    Brady & the Patriots = fighters of Freedom

  3. As I recall, there was a lot of talk about a settlement last year, but in order for there to be a reduction of the penalty assessed, Brady had to admit wrongdoing, which he wasn’t willing to do. It’s not really fair to assert that the NFL was unwilling to settle. I’m not arguing whether Brady should or should not have been willing to admit anything or even whether he did or did not do anything wrong, but you all reported on multiple occasions that a settlement had been offered by the league.

  4. Who cares any more since Brady destroyed the cell phone there is no evidence. It is what it is…. no 1st round draft pick and a fine….good enough , now lets draft and play ball.

  5. First of all Kraft had nothing to do with Goodells decisions. This was about power and control, which if players were smart they would get changed at the soonest date possible. I don’t see Brady going for any settlement, because he believes he did nothing wrong. The Billionaire owners want to control every aspect of a players life, if the players don’t do something they will only have themselves to blame.

  6. He could’ve simply admitted guilt and settled for a lesser penalty. Pride cometh before the fall, so sayeth the Psalms.

  7. I’ve noticed in all the exploding hateroids today, that none of them even try to defend the false data anymore – all they do is spew the same old generalized fact-free gibberish. And some (incorrectly) say it’s just about the CBA and the NFLPA is to blame for a dumb CBA (which was the opinion of 2 of the 3 judges) giving Goodell too much power. But there’s that key word in the CBA – “fair” – which changes EVERYTHING! Goodell, if he chooses to act as arbitrator, has to do so in a “fair” manner. Which he didn’t: he lied about Brady’s testimony, lied about the data, ignored texts in which Brady’s preference for a psi of 12.5 was stated, exceeded the findings of the Wells Report without any additional evidence, and even lied about who was behind the suspension of the ball boys, and lead a nasty smear campaign. That isn’t fair, as required by the small print of the CBA. And that means that all the facts about the case are relavant to whether Goodell had the right to suspend Brady.

  8. Respectfully disagree, a settlement seems more likely now than ever. From the league’s standpoint this has been about the power of the commissioner’s office from the get go. In the split decision the majority upheld the commissioner’s power under Article 46 to conduct a kangaroo court and implement an arbitrary punishment if he so chose. They further stated the commissioner as arbitrator had the right to make mistakes of fact and law and not be reversed for them. There remains that portion of Article 46 requiring fairness and the basic tenets of federal law that an arbitrator be unbiased and the law of the shop regarding consistency of punishment and notification that could upon further review easily overturn what the league gained in today’s ruling. As was evidenced by the dissenting opinion.

    It would be in the best interest of the league to now offer Brady a one or two game suspension based on a failure to fully cooperate to cement the disciplinary power the court’s split decision decided abides in Article 46 rather than risk having it undone by further review. The league got what it wanted here but could easily see that evaporate if they lost in the next round. Obviously it would also be in the best interests of NE to have Brady only sit for a game or two. It would not however be in the best interest of the NFLPA to have Brady accept any suspension and only Brady knows what would be acceptable to him. Brady could in fact go so far as to risk the very public hassle of filing a separate defamation suit that could thoroughly clear his name even if it would not impact his suspension.

    The long and short of it is that it would not be at all surprising to see a reduced suspension for modified cause offered and accepted as the best end result for the league, the Patriots and possibly Brady. The NFLPA wouldn’t like it but if Brady accepted it they would have to live with it.

  9. brady is putting himself above the game and becoming a distraction to his team and his legacy

  10. solo681 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:03 PM
    This battle is a reflection of the power struggle between Constitutionalists and Progressives.

    Goodel and oblama = corrupt to the core
    Brady & the Patriots = fighters of Freedom

    ————————————-
    Absolute insanity.

  11. Pats have no first round pick and no Brady until October and will still be in Superbowl contention in late January. You know it and it’s the real reason you hate them.

    Now tell me about how the pats cheat unlike all the teams that tamper, use peds, heat balls on sidelines, use sticky towels, cheat the cap, pump in crowd noise, text the sidelines, put vaseline on jerseys, etc.

    See you in January, deal with it.

  12. These silly New England ranters just don’t get it. Goodell has ALWAYS had the right to do to Tommy what he wanted, because he was voted that right by the very players he governs — and that includes the members of the New England Patriots. The only “Constitution” here is the one called the Collective Bargaining Agreement. And it says the Commish can call “conduct detrimental” as he sees it. So spare us the Patriotic blathering.

    All the Ideal Gas rantings have been just that… hot air. A smokescreen, a red herring. It’s always been about two things here 1) Goodell’s absolute right to rule and 2) the fact that Tommy Brady is not above the same CBA that all the other NFL players have to abide by, despite what he thinks in his privileged mind.

  13. How’s that investigation into Peyton Manning’s (sorry, I mean “Ashley Manning’s”) HGH deliveries going? I certainly hope the “integrity” of last year’s Super Bowl wasn’t tarnished by cheating!

  14. It’s not only the league that would be reluctant to settle now that they hold all the cards. You’d have to think the union would be equally reluctant. If the union settles, the Second Circuit’s opinion would stand. Tom Brady individually might end up with a relatively better result (e.g., 2 games instead of 4 games), but it would be a bad precedent for the union for the precedent to go unchallenged. The NFL didn’t settle after losing in the district court for the very same reason — they did not want to be stuck with unfavorable precedent on Goodell’s ability to discipline players.

    As much as I agree with the Second Circuit was right and wish that the whole thing would be over without any further appeals, I don’t see why the union would want to stop here just to save Brady a game or two. The union’s interest and Brady’s interests are not fully aligned right now. But one thing is for sure — a settlement must be tempting to the NFL to make sure that this precedent does stand.

  15. streetyson says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:17 PM
    I’ve noticed in all the exploding hateroids today, that none of them even try to defend the false data anymore – all they do is spew the same old generalized fact-free gibberish. And some (incorrectly) say it’s just about the CBA and the NFLPA is to blame for a dumb CBA (which was the opinion of 2 of the 3 judges) giving Goodell too much power. But there’s that key word in the CBA – “fair” – which changes EVERYTHING! Goodell, if he chooses to act as arbitrator, has to do so in a “fair” manner. Which he didn’t: he lied about Brady’s testimony, lied about the data, ignored texts in which Brady’s preference for a psi of 12.5 was stated, exceeded the findings of the Wells Report without any additional evidence, and even lied about who was behind the suspension of the ball boys, and lead a nasty smear campaign. That isn’t fair, as required by the small print of the CBA. And that means that all the facts about the case are relavant to whether Goodell had the right to suspend Brady.

    *waaaaaaahhhhhhhhh*

  16. There was no deflation other than what occurred naturally. These New York judges must also believe that cigarettes cause no harm, there is no such thing as global warming and football does not cause concussions. What this serial liar Goodell and his serial lying legal team have done to Tom Brady is a crime and all the fans of all the loser franchises can revel in the witch hunt but one day they will come for you and you will suffer at the hands of this megalomaniac.

  17. brady cheated. The Pats cheated. My life sucks so I am jumping on the bandwagon of hate to make my miserable existence in my mom’s basement seem just a little brighter. Until a somewhat pretty girl even acknowledges my presence, let me have my contempt for the Pats. Losers unite; embrace the hate; it’s all I got,man, let me hold on to it

  18. If the NFL compromises, they’ll be setting a foolish precedent. They’ll also have people like you, Mike Florio, pointing out that the rich, white QB gets a pass when all sorts of other athletes endure harsh penalties.

    So the NFL has to go all in. Everyone knows this.

  19. I hope I live long enough to see Roger show up at a game in Foxboro. I won’t hold my breath though. Unless he is escorted by Seal Team 6, I don’t like his odds.

  20. I’ve been trying to wrap my mind around the tortured logic of Pats fans about why Brady shouldn’t be punished and I think it comes down to the fact they don’t want their guy to face any consequences for cheating because it’s not fair!

  21. solo681 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:03 PM

    This battle is a reflection of the power struggle between Constitutionalists and Progressives.

    WE the PEOPLE (Constitutionalists) vs Big Gov Wash DC (Progressives Liberalism)

    Big Gov wants the US Constitution in a museum and part of old history.
    WE the PEOPLE know that our FREEDOMS are at stake and this country is on the verge of complete socialist takeover ruled by Big Gov & Big Corporations.

    Goodel and oblama = corrupt to the core
    Brady & the Patriots = fighters of Freedom

    13 – 43
    ==================================
    Solo,

    You’re neglecting the fact that the Pats owner, Mr. Kraft, runs a Big Corporation… so that puts him and the team he owns squarely in the Big Gov and Big Corp section of your rant.

    The Kraft Group is a diversified holding company with assets in paper and packaging, sports and entertainment, real estate development and a private equity portfolio. His sports holdings include the National Football League’s New England Patriots, Major League Soccer’s New England Revolution, and the stadium in which both teams play, Gillette Stadium.

  22. “Pride cometh before the fall, so sayeth the Psalms.”

    No, that is not whateth the Psalms ‘sayeth’. Readeth the Psalms beforeth trying to quoteth the Psalms: “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

  23. Possible settlement: let every opponent of the Patriots take their balls into the bathroom before the games and let air out or put air into the balls and do not allow the refs to check them.

  24. beachsidejames says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:24 PM
    Reduce it to 2 games. Enough already.
    —————–

    Not hard to imagine why 2 games would be acceptable to chippy/james. The Dolphins are NE’s week 2 opponent.

  25. streetyson says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:17 PM
    I’ve noticed in all the exploding hateroids today, that none of them even try to defend the false data anymore – all they do is spew the same old generalized fact-free gibberish. And some (incorrectly) say it’s just about the CBA and the NFLPA is to blame for a dumb CBA (which was the opinion of 2 of the 3 judges) giving Goodell too much power. But there’s that key word in the CBA – “fair” – which changes EVERYTHING!
    ———————————————–

    No, the problem isn’t the “hateroids” it’s the fact that the apologists just don’t understand the decision. It’s been about conduct detrimental, which, as the judges ruled, is whatever Goodell feels like saying it is. He can bust a player for picking his nose if he feels like it. Read on:

    “Here, the parties contracted in the CBA to specifically allow the Commissioner to sit as the arbitrator,” the Second Circuit wrote at page 33. “They did so knowing full well that the Commissioner had the sole power of determining what constitutes ‘conduct detrimental,’ and thus knowing that the Commissioner would have a stake both in the underlying discipline and in every arbitration [falling within his jurisdiction]. Had the parties wished to restrict the Commissioner’s authority, they could have fashioned a different agreement.”

    You got that? The players voted that right to Goodell, and if they don’t like it now, too bad, they should have done a different deal then.

    And here’s another thing for the ranters and all their “we on Brady’s side are for American freedom” blah blah… uh last I looked another great American idea is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. You voted for the agreement Mr. Brady, now take responsibility for your action.

  26. alcottclan235 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:19 PM
    Question: What would JChipman do if she didn’t have the Patriots to hate?
    ———————-

    Lock in on whatever team took their place dominating the AFCE over the Fins

  27. There’s a big difference between the previous settlement talks and where we are today. The NFL is never going to be in a better position than they are right now.

    Right now, they have the 2nd Circuit saying that He-Man Roger can do whatever he pleases when it comes to discipline. That’s what Rog wanted out of all this, and the last thing he wants to do is to jeopardize that by seeing this go any further in the courts. Roger has a powerful incentive to settle this thing right now.

    I bet Roger offers Brady a 2-game suspension with no requirement that he admit anything as to deflation; heck, even that they can categorize it as entirely for destroying the cell phone and supposedly failing to cooperate fully. Before, Roger needed Brady to admit something as to deflation because he needed that on the discipline issue. Now the court’s taken care of that, so all he needs is some kind of penalty on Brady to satisfy the other owners. Reducing the suspension will also make broadcasters happier, since it would only screw up one prime time game instead of potentially two.*

    I doubt Brady would take the deal, and the NFLPA sure doesn’t want this precedent to stand, but I bet the NFL makes the offer.

    * I say potentially because there is actually about zero chance this thing gets wrapped up by the beginning of the season and it’s likely the courts will give Brady a stay while appeals are pending.

  28. Give Brady, McNally and Jastremski lie detector tests..

    I’ll bet everything I have they dont pass

  29. There is hope for mankind after all – common sense prevailed. Everyone knew this was shady as soon as we were told the Deflator was a weight loss term, and Shady coincidentally destroyed his phone.

    I already know the 30 for 30 title about the Belicheck-Brady era: The Deceitful Duo, a Legacy Tarnished

  30. cornerstone2001 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:56 PM
    Give Brady, McNally and Jastremski lie detector tests..

    I’ll bet everything I have they dont pass
    —————–

    Big of you to put that ’88 Cavalier and collection of beanie babies at risk

  31. It’s not all bad, Lets say Garoppolo drops the first game in Arizona but comes back and knocks off Miami, Houston and Buffalo. Now Belichick has another “winning” backup QB he can pawn off on some needy team.

  32. Amazing how 2 Appellate judges can be so stupid and ignore the facts and the law. Unbelievable.

    All these Judges need to be knocked down a million oegs. Corrupt to the Core just like Goodell

  33. All you haters get a life for chrissakes , you’re about as intelligent as a two year old. Grow the hell up. If the NLFPA has any balls they should hold the owners to the fire for allowing this debacle to continue and make em pay thru the nose when the cba come up for
    renegotiation .. They’re all acting like little petulant children .

  34. Brady* should have taken his punishment last year. What would it have cost them? A chance to choke? Big deal. They did that fine WITH Brady*.

  35. It’s always been about two things here 1) Goodell’s absolute right to rule and 2) the fact that Tommy Brady is not above the same CBA that all the other NFL players have to abide by…
    —————–
    Well, that’s not really true. Initially it was all about the NFL thinking they caught NE until their botched science was debunked. Then, and only then, did it become about the liars in NFL HQ vs NFLPA over the CBA. Well played by the NFL. Extremely unethical, but effective (as of today at least).

  36. Jag1959 is totally clueless.
    Hopefully our friend from the grave Mr. Mojo Risin can help.
    “This is the end”

  37. Let’s give the facts again. The Deflater was mentioned one time…ONCE in May of 2014… no football in May…no context whatsoever…NONE!

  38. This is much ado about a little. The point is: Brady cheated, he destroyed his evidence and the Patriots have no 1st round draft pick and no Brady for four games. All this mumbo jumbo Pats fans are spewing will avail the cause of their god not. Brady is a false god, not a god at all. He’s a man who cheats.

  39. Who is The Deflator? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his name was a weight-loss term. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear the NFLPA tell it, anybody could have worked with The Deflator. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick Brady ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone. Underground. Nobody has ever seen him since. He becomes a myth, a spook story that Pats fans tell their kids at night. “Rat on your pop, and The Deflator will get you.” And no-one ever really believes.

    My guess is you’ll never hear from him again.

  40. I’ve been trying to wrap my mind around the tortured logic of Pats fans about why Brady shouldn’t be punished …
    ———————
    I can see understand settling on one side over the other but, given the ups and downs, lack of real evidence, lies and disinformation in this case, to not at least be able to “wrap your mind around” the logic of the other side just shows that your mind is your shortcoming.

  41. This has become the never-ending story. People can agree to disagree. This is a misdemeanor turned into the crime of the century.

    Brady is a big-time competitor. Did slightly underinflated footballs transformed Brady from Ryan Leaf into one of the greatest of all-time?

    What really amuses me is the sycophants getting off on this. Dude, get a life.

    Goodell is a turd. Can we at least agree on that?

  42. chuckshontaspads says:
    Apr 25, 2016 10:41 PM

    Let’s give the facts again. The Deflater was mentioned one time…ONCE in May of 2014… no football in May…no context whatsoever…NONE!
    ======

    Just shows it’s a long term, systemic cheating process by Belicheat, Brady and the Pats.

  43. The bottom line is Tom Brady is NOT above the same laws that apply to every other NFL player.
    ———–
    So you’ve changed your tune (seemingly agreeing that it was NOT always about the CBA) to something most can agree with!!!

    It’s a start, but given your argumentative track record on matters you are frequently in the wrong about, you’ve got a long road ahead of you. Good luck with that.

  44. OMG, the torture never stops.

    I don’t care anymore. The only people who care at this point are the same crybaby haters of excellence, ergo, the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

    It is painfully clear to anyone with even 1/3 of a brain that this whole thing was concocted by Kensil, Grigson, Wells and Goofdell.
    The fact that the moron haters out there buy into the sludge that Goodell is selling just proves the old adage that the minute you drive west or south from the Northeast corridor of this country the average IQ drops by 50 points.

    Oh well, have fun with it haters. It won’t make a difference in the end.

  45. Story Idea for PFT:

    Please write a story about he Nielsen ratings for the draft (all days) and compare and contrast Boston vs. the rest of the country.

  46. youknowiknowitall says:
    Apr 25, 2016 10:35 PM
    It’s always been about two things here 1) Goodell’s absolute right to rule and 2) the fact that Tommy Brady is not above the same CBA that all the other NFL players have to abide by…
    —————–
    Well, that’s not really true. Initially it was all about the NFL thinking they caught NE until their botched science was debunked. Then, and only then, did it become about the liars in NFL HQ vs NFLPA over the CBA. Well played by the NFL. Extremely unethical, but effective (as of today at least).
    ——————————————

    Wrong! Timeline means nothing. This boils down to the conduct issue, regardless of when it came about. The rest you can throw out, and that includes all that science junk. You miss the point completely.

  47. It’s been now proven in court, Shady and the Pats are serial cheaters.

    Of course their owner already admitted it by action of paying multiple fines and forfeiting multiple picks for CHEATING.

    #forevertainted

  48. This just needs to end, who cares which side prevails… fans on both sides know it’s already been settled in the court of public opinion – Ted Wells report on the Dolphins”Bullygate” scandal should have been a clue that nothing positive was gonna come of the Tom Brady” Witch Hunt” other than a protracted legal fight….Wells report had more holes than swiss cheese & Greedy Goodell wasn’t satisfied enough with just the fine & taking their 1st rd pick….so let ’em settle it on the field where it counts.

  49. I hate the Pats but hate Goodell even worse. Fact – there was not enough time for anybody even an experienced ball boy during his 1 minute and 40 seconds bathroom break to deflate any balls – fact – even if Brady wanted his balls soft, the NFL officials test the balls before the game and found them to be within legal limits except 2 which were inflated to standard. Fact – it was a cold day and some balls subsequently were below the limit – big deal. Fact – Goodell has the right to suspend anybody he feels he wants to, the union gave up too much last negotiations on this section of the CBA. Fact the Union must represent their employees up to the highest level.

  50. illogicalvoicesinmyhead says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:06 PM

    He could’ve simply admitted guilt and settled for a lesser penalty. Pride cometh before the fall, so sayeth the Psalms.
    ————————-

    Admitted guilt for what? Brady has maintained his innocence throughout this whole farce, and to this date there has been not one iota of evidence presented that even comes close to showing that anyone directed anyone else to deflate footballs below 12.5psi.

  51. If I’m Brady, I would take my case to the highest court so that this behavior by Goodell and his cadre of corrupt cronies gets called out and thoroughly examined….you know text messages, phone records, all the dirty back room dealing that the NFL Ownership doesn’t want exposed, will become part of the defense’s discovery. I also hope that the NFLPA takes a very hard line at the next round of negotiations between players and management and finds a way to bring the league to their knees. I already know which side I’ll be supporting when that day arrives.

  52. It is painfully clear to anyone with even 1/3 of a brain that this whole thing was concocted by Kensil, Grigson, Wells and Goofdell.
    ———————

    The Judges seem to think different don’t they?…

    The Patri*t Way….

  53. I’ve been trying to wrap my mind around the tortured logic of Pats fans about why Brady shouldn’t be punished …
    ———————
    I can see understand settling on one side over the other but, given the ups and downs, lack of real evidence, lies and disinformation in this case, to not at least be able to “wrap your mind around” the logic of the other side just shows that your mind is your shortcoming.
    ———————————–

    Looks like the Judges think Cheating is Shady’s shortcoming huh?……

    The Patri*t Way

  54. Ben Roethlisberger was never charged with a single misdemeanor, yet Goodell busted him anyway. (Funny I didn’t hear any Pats fans crying about that one.) It’s always been about how Roger interprets matters, yet here comes Brady thinking he’s above all that (with the very CBA he voted on btw). Sorry Pats fans, the Golden Boy is not better than any other player when it comes to disciplinary action.

  55. dinosaurcards says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:43 PM

    Then “The Deflator” was, what again? A force of nature?
    ———————-

    No one knows, because Pash botched the investigation.

  56. youknowiknowitall says:
    Apr 25, 2016 10:35 PM
    It’s always been about two things here 1) Goodell’s absolute right to rule and 2) the fact that Tommy Brady is not above the same CBA that all the other NFL players have to abide by…
    —————–
    Well, that’s not really true. Initially it was all about the NFL thinking they caught NE until their botched science was debunked. Then, and only then, did it become about the liars in NFL HQ vs NFLPA over the CBA. Well played by the NFL. Extremely unethical, but effective (as of today at least).
    —————————————-

    Nixon never got busted for the original crime, it was the cover-up that got him nailed. The first charge isn’t what matters always.

  57. igotgamenj says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:08 PM

    Must be great for Pats fans no first round pick and won’t see Brady till the second week of October…
    _______________

    And yet, I dare you to find one Vegas oddsmaker that would bet against the Patriots to win the AFC East again.

  58. God will not stand by and permit the suspension to happen. Tom Brady is innocent and must not suffer. Take it to the Supreme Court if necessary, because justice must prevail over the forces of evil.
    If the justice system means anything in America, Tom will not roll over and give up. He is honest and a truly great Patriot and he must continue to fight to plead his case. Tom Brady is not just a great QB, he is fighting for justice in America. He must not lose. Fight on. Fight on. Fight on. Never give up.
    Patriot Nation join me in prayer for American justice.

  59. Settle?? Are you kidding me? Did WWII settle? Kraft screwed his 31 business partners for years, time after time, reaped the benefits from each misgiving and now you expect them to call off the dawgs with victory being imminent???? Child, please………….

  60. realitycheckbaby says:
    Apr 25, 2016 11:02 PM
    chuckshontaspads says:
    Apr 25, 2016 10:41 PM

    Let’s give the facts again. The Deflater was mentioned one time…ONCE in May of 2014… no football in May…no context whatsoever…NONE!
    ======

    Just shows it’s a long term, systemic cheating process by Belicheat, Brady and the Pats.
    —————–
    Well what happened to this “cheating process” for the Jets game in 2014 when the balls were 16PSI?

    I thought they were guilty at first too but then I did something most won’t- I read more of the facts. It’s actually made pretty clear in the Wells report Brady wanted the balls right at 12.5, he even made sure the officials knew he wanted them at 12.5 by having McNally put the rule with the footballs turned in for inspection. Who would point out a rule they plan to break? And would a perfectionist like Tom want some flunky messing with the balls he hand picked? Cant see that myself But I get that most want no part of actually reading anything that might clear Brady. That’s why we keep getting the same questions over and over,(“Why was his name the deflator?”) because the non Pats fans dont actually read the answers. Aint nobody got time for that!

  61. paul82461 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:05 PM

    Who cares any more since Brady destroyed the cell phone there is no evidence. It is what it is…. no 1st round draft pick and a fine….good enough , now lets draft and play ball.
    _______________________________________________________

    Absolutely true … there is no evidence! That being the case, whether Brady was involved in a deflation scheme or not is irrelevant (unless a person is part of the “Evidence? I don’t need no stinkin’ evidence!” crowd. Nobody, not even Tom Brady, should be convicted without evidence.

    It is also irrelevant that he destroyed his cell phone. The NFL does not possess subpoena powers, so Brady could not be compelled to turn over his cell phone. He clearly stated he would not turn it over. So, what’s the difference between “I destroyed my phone” and “I haven’t destroyed may phone, but I am not turning it over”? Nothing. The result is the same in either case … no cooperation with the investigation.

    That’s where things turn really weird (in my opinion). There is a clear precedent when a player refuses to cooperate with an investigation by not turning over a cell phone. Brett Favre refused to turn over his cell phone and was fined $50,000 and rebuked for not being candid. Tom Brady was suspended for four games.

    The lack of consistency in punishments is even more obvious with respect to tampering with footballs. When hard evidence was produced that the Jets equipment manager used unapproved equipment to prep K balls the manager was suspended, but no penalty was imposed on the Jets’ kicker. With no hard evidence of tampering, the Patriots were fined $1,000,000, docked two draft picks, and their quarterback was suspended for four games. Justice? Even for those who want Brady suspended, the only honest answer is “Hell no!” But this has never really been about justice, has it?

  62. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:50 PM
    alcottclan235 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:19 PM
    Question: What would JChipman do if she didn’t have the Patriots to hate?
    ———————-

    Lock in on whatever team took their place dominating the AFCE over the Fins
    _______________________________________

    I really don’t mind any other team in the NFL. I just don’t like teams that cheat and this just farther shows the patriots run is a sham. It does kind of stink though Brady won’t be playing against the Dolphins early since they have beat him the last 3 of 5. I guess they figured out you don’t have to place any defender farther than 10 yards downfield since deadarm Brady can’t get it there.

  63. The New Jersey Jets: Actually got caught overinflating kicking balls. Organization not penalized any draft picks, minor fine, person involved suspended one game.

    Must be nice having the front office stuffed with your cronies, huh?

  64. Destroying his cell phone is enough evidence for me that he is guilty! Handing it over could have gone a long way proving he knew nothing about it.

  65. Brady should sue Goodell personally and also the NFL organization for defamation of his character. Maybe $250 million. He has a strong case. Goodell is a corrupt serial liar and has infected the entire organization. Time to bring them all down.

  66. jstamper3377 says:
    Apr 25, 2016 9:23 PM
    Pats have no first round pick and no Brady until October and will still be in Superbowl contention in late January. You know it and it’s the real reason you hate them.

    Now tell me about how the pats cheat unlike all the teams that tamper, use peds, heat balls on sidelines, use sticky towels, cheat the cap, pump in crowd noise, text the sidelines, put vaseline on jerseys, etc.

    See you in January, deal with it…

    ________________________________________

    Would you care to bet on that?

  67. Te NFL “holds nearly all the cards” because it was always right from the beginning.
    Parasites on the league can whine and waste money, but in the end people like the NFL. Power is derived from the people, not the fringe whiners.

  68. He’s guilty, plain and simple. Berman was upset that the league wouldnt settle and that a judge had to rule on something dumb like this- there was no crime so no judges should be involved. Like it or not, EVERYONE signed a CBA saying Goodell has full power and can appeal his own punishments. The patsy’s once again think they are above the law and think after signed the CBA they can just go over Goodells head. You were EXTREMELY lucky Goodell burned spygate tapes and covered YEARS of cheating (which could have led to loss of SB’s or wins over those years), Then this, the punishment should be loss of SB- b/c you did in fact cheat to get there. But a measly 4 game suspension and fine. Take ur lumps cheaters (goodell has helped Kraft time and time again after Kraft has backed goodell time and time again- they are aiding eachother every step of the way)

  69. just like with big ben and hardy, goodell found hard evidence even if each paid off the law and the courts.

    with brady, there is no evidence.

    some people are serious morons in this country.

  70. It is absolutely hilarious how the haters have zero clue about the evidence in this case. All they do is regurgitate the headlines they hear. One post put it right. While Article 46 does give Goodell the right to punish as he sees fit, there is supposed to be some modicum of fairness involved in determining that punishment as well as some actual evidence of wrongdoing, which the NFL said they didn’t have in court. Leaking false reports, hiring dubious consultants (Exponent), lying about testimony, lying to judges–all of which is true–does not seem to project a level of fairness. If the NFL is going to stand by the Wells report, then why did they punish the team when Wells said Kraft and Belichick did nothing wrong? When Wells says he did not need Brady’s cell phone, then who cares if he destroyed it? If haters and the league are gonna quote the CBA, then quote the fact that the CBA does not allow the league to ask for any union member’s personal property. Brady’s cell phone was not a team issued phone. It was his personal property. They shouldn’t have even asked for it because, you know, the league agreed to those terms. Therefore, it should not be held against Brady. Remember that the only person to testify under oath in this whole case has been Brady. Goodell is a chicken bleep coward hiding behind “the shield”, which btw makes me puke when Goodell calls the league that name.

  71. Phone destroyed, a ball boy being nicknamed the deflator because of weight loss (extremely not likely) plus the team has a history of cheating. I ask how can anyone feel sorry for the Patriots? Also one day when the ball boy becomes a man he will admit that he was instructed to deflate footballs for the golden boy who gets special treatment both on and off the field.

  72. As sick as I am about having to hear Goodell and read anything about him, I am hopeful that this is not over. It is not unusual for these decisions to hang on just a single word. sometimes the word is addressed in the decision and sometimes it is ignored. In this case it was both, which means it needs to go to the full second circuit. As streetyson correctly states above, the hinge word is “fair” ie, Goodell has to rule in a fair manner. And that will be the basis of going to the full court.
    I don’t think anyone argues that the NFL PA gave Goodell way too much power in the CBA. But I firmly believe that the NFLPA never considered that this would be unfairly applied, especially in as gross a manner as deflate gate.
    I really think the NFLPA only has two real options. The first is to appeal and ensure the appeal addresses the necessity of arbitration fairly. And if the appeal is denied or is lost, then I just can’t see the NFLPA waiting until the end of this CBA to have it changed. And what is clear is if the courts ratify that Goodell does in fact have that level of power, then that is worth going on strike for.
    And as much as I would hate to see a strike, it would be one of those times when I feel it is fully justified. Let’s hope it doesn’t go there. But if it does, so be it. Nobody deserves that level of power.

  73. It’s time for Brady to suck it up and serve the suspension. It’s time to move on. No one cares anymore. This is yesterday’s news. What difference, at this point, does it make?

    Brady can serve the suspension, and then use it as motivation to be as mad as the netherworld, and to get back to the Super Bowl. But the courts have spoken, and the issue is settled. It’s time to move on.

  74. Admitted guilt for what? Brady has maintained his innocence throughout this whole farce, and to this date there has been not one iota of evidence presented that even comes close to showing that anyone directed anyone else to deflate footballs below 12.5psi.

    —————————————————————-

    to say those text messages brady sent himself is not even circumstantial evidence just shows how slanted and biased your opinion is, and don’t get me started on the destroyed cell phone

    there was something that was going on there, do i think its the reason they won? no, but if were gonna let roger suspend big ben for 4 games for nothing then i don’t have a problem with him suspending tom, and the players gave him the right to do so in the CBA

  75. @brownsareclowns:

    i do not think the 2 junior judges are ignorant or stupid. i think they were paid off.

    chief judge katzmann’s words are very strong. he is also honorable and was not up for taking the nfl’s payoff.

  76. “My husband can’t throw the football and (deflate) it too…”
    Signed,
    Giselle

    Apparently, the League Office sees it differently.

  77. Why settle? The NFL needs to send a strong message to the pats franchise about their bending and breaking of the rules. This goes back a long time and is overdue.

    The NFL is more important than any one player…or team. Play by the rules or get punished. Don’t see what’s so hard to understand here Boston.

  78. “Must be nice having the front office stuffed with your cronies, huh?”

    I love that the Jets and the League Office are inside the Pats fans heads!

    We play chess while you play dirty…

  79. by dragging this on an on it will just follow brady into retirement. If he would have just admitted the obvious over a year ago, most of us mostly would have forgotten about it.

  80. troy43mvp says:
    Apr 26, 2016 8:26 AM
    Phone destroyed, a ball boy being nicknamed the deflator because of weight loss (extremely not likely) plus the team has a history of cheating. I ask how can anyone feel sorry for the Patriots? Also one day when the ball boy becomes a man he will admit that he was instructed to deflate footballs for the golden boy who gets special treatment both on and off the field.

    ——-

    The phone wasn’t asked for, the ball “boy’s” nickname wasn’t the deflator, and he’s actually a man.

    Although you’ve got nothing correct here, what we do know is that you are sick of Brady and the Patriots winning.

  81. Denny Chin who is a liberal judge and also the swing vote in his decision against Brady, went to law school with John Mara, co-owner of the NY Giants. Chin and Mara were classmates ’78/’79. Mara was one of the biggest proponents of going after the Patriots and Brady. I’m sure there was no bias, though liberal judges usually side with workers unions, except in this case. Interesting?

  82. bubbybrister/shovelpass says:
    Apr 26, 2016 9:23 AM
    “Must be nice having the front office stuffed with your cronies, huh?”

    I love that the Jets and the League Office are inside the Pats fans heads!

    We play chess while you play dirty…
    _______________________________________

    Right…In our heads like, puffs of air, warm Gatorade, bugs and wire taps…

    Patriots are in your kitchen and eating you out of house and home. The goal of the NFL is to win the most games, not the popularity contest.

    You play name calling and cute little #s, while the Patriots win championships.

    Advantage – Patriots!

    Run, don’t walk, back to Troll Fantasy Island.

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