Jerry Jones wanted to overpay for Paxton Lynch, Stephen Jones said “no way”

AP

Another Cowboys draft, another case of Stephen Jones telling his dad not to go overboard for a first-round quarterback.

Two years ago, Cowboys owner and General Manager Jerry Jones wanted to draft Johnny Manziel in the first round, but son Stephen talked his father out of it, and the Cowboys took guard Zack Martin. The results speak for themselves: Manziel is out of the NFL; Martin has made the Pro Bowl in each of his first two NFL seasons.

This year, Jerry wanted to trade up with the Seahawks and draft quarterback Paxton Lynch late in the first round, but Stephen said the price they’d have to pay — their second- and third-round picks — was too steep.

No way with Seattle,” Stephen told Jerry, via Peter King of TheMMQB.com. “Too much. They want our two and three.”

As it turned out, the Broncos traded up with the Seahawks to take Lynch. Jerry said after the draft that he wished he’d overpaid and made the trade. The Cowboys ended up using the two picks Seattle was demanding on Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith and Nebraska defensive tackle Maliek Collins. Time will tell if Smith and Collins turn out to be better NFL players than Lynch, but given Stephen’s track record with the Manziel-Martin decision, it’s probably a good thing that the father listened to the son.

87 responses to “Jerry Jones wanted to overpay for Paxton Lynch, Stephen Jones said “no way”

  1. After seeing what was paid for #1 and #2 if your convinced Lynch has good chance to become your franchise QB a 3rd pick is cheap.

    Your #2 is swapped for one and difference in a 3 to a 4 is little. 150 points on the charts.

    Jerry is right to regret this one if Lynch ever becomes ever a top 12-8 QB a Rivers, Carr or the like.

  2. You go Stephen!

    So glad we didnt give up the ranch for Lynch! Happy we got Smith and Collins! Looking forward to seeing Dak develop too. AND oh my lawd we got ZEKE!! ZEKE TRAIN is rolling! Choo choo!!

    Sometimes I think Jerry says stuff just to get his name out there ALOT, but things are working well with our drafts since Stephen and Will McClay got involved!

    Go Cowboys!!

  3. Hearing about the never-ending tug-of-war between Jerreh and his handlers is very sad.

  4. Just imagine how bad the Cowboys would be if Jerruh’s son wasn’t constantly having to stop him from getting everything he wants. This probably happens more often than we realize too.

  5. Epic Fail for the Cowboys in this draft….one good pick, the rest projects….with all that starter talent looking them right in the face.
    Look at what the Jags got at the 5th slot…absolutely destroyed the boys
    My screen name says it all

  6. track record ? manziel-martin is 1 data pt. a single data pt doesn’t make a trend or create a record.

    jeez.

    strategically, romo is old & brittle and won’t make it thru another season intact. jerry might have been right. we saw last yr how dall mismanaged the QB position ie back up QB, so improving their resources at QB position this yr should be a huge priority.

  7. Facts of life: The pendulum always swings. As bad as Jerry was as GM he wasn’t always wrong. Too much stock was put into the Martin over Manziel pick. It gave Stephen too much credibility. He was probably wrong on this one.

  8. Stephen Jones needs to mind his business and stay in his lane. Let Jerruh handle this!

    NFC East

  9. Paxton won’t like playing in the afc west much. We have a guy by the name of Khalil Mack. Maybe you’ve heard of him. The introduction won’t be a fun one for the rookie.

  10. I thought they blew it by taking Elliot over Ramsey. Elliot may raise the offense to a new level, but Ramsey would have shut down half the field. A lesser back would still have done very well behind that offensive line – I don’t think there’s anyone else in the draft who could do for a secondary what Ramsey can.

  11. Overpaying is another term for impatient. That goes along with the same methodology that brought them Hardy and Gregory. It’s poor management. That they didn’t overpay for the pick to select Lynch IS a good sign that someone over there (Stephen?) knows what he’s doing.

  12. I’ll take a potential all pro (praying for full recovery) LB Jalon Smith, a rotational interior rush man DT Collins, and two time all american QB Dak Prescott over QB Paxton Lynch any day…….only time will tell..revisit this “non trade” in 3-5 years..

    I would have preferred this myself :

    1) DB – Ramsey
    2) LB – Jack or DE Spence
    3) RB Prosise
    4) QB Prescott

  13. It was a good move to get Dak Prescott. It would have been a better move to trade up for Paxton Lynch. But the best move I think would have been to get Conner Cook. I think he’ll be the best of this bunch. The price was right too.

  14. In the coming years, Jerruh will be turning over all his holdings to Steve so that he can pursue his ultimate dream vocation: being the homeless guy who suggests draft picks to Jimmy Haslam.

  15. I would like to thank Stephen and Elway for keeping Lynch as far away from Dallas as possible.

  16. Seems like the Seahawks offered the Broncos a better deal than they did to Dallas. Trade down five spots for a late third round pick, instead of eight spots to the high second round for a much higher 3rd round pick.

  17. Jerrah wants instant gratification because he knows his time is running out.
    Stevie knows he’s got a longer run so he can be a little more prudent.
    In this case, however, the old man may be proven correct when Romo goes down with half the season left and they trot Kellen Moore out there again.

  18. To everyone keeping score at home, Jerry being right or wrong has nothing to actually do with Jerry in this instance. It’s all about whether Paxton Lynch can develop.

    If Lynch develops into a Pro Bowl QB, Jerry was right. If he doesn’t, Jerry was wrong. The “value” of a 2nd and 3rd rd pick means nothing since we are talking about a QB.

  19. Stephen’s approach may be more traditional but it is Jerry that created the empire using his bold intuition. Does the 90s Dallas juggernaut get created with a traditional approach? I think not.

  20. .
    If the Cowboys were intent on getting Lynch, they certainly had the opportunity. Taking the Ravens 4th rounder to drop from 4 to 6 was a no brainer. Baltimore was taking a lineman and Jacksonville was taking in state favorite Jalen Ramsey. Neither was picking Elliott.

    Since Dallas entered the draft with multiple picks in rounds 4 and 6 , putting together a package for a pick hungry team like Cleveland or Tennessee to acquire another #3 would not have been that difficult.

    Miami, Seattle and New England pulled off a 5th round 3 way trade while the Patriots were on the clock.
    .

  21. This has to be rough on Jerrah. When he first bought the Cowboys it was Jimmy Johnson who called the shots and made them a winner…….then it’s been about 20 years of Jerrah muddling things up……and now the kid is showing the ole’ man up. Jerrah can buy a lot of things but he can’t buy respect!!

  22. The…”Most mediocre franchise in sports”…
    ====

    “Mediocre” is gonna look DAMN good to the Iggles this year.

    Enjoy Sam Bradskirt and a last-place finish.

  23. I would have preferred this myself :

    1) DB – Ramsey
    2) LB – Jack or DE Spence
    3) RB Prosise
    4) QB Prescott
    =====

    Very close to what I had. My “picks” for Dallas:

    1) Ramsey
    2) Jack
    3) Kenneth Dixon
    4a) Christian Westerman
    4b) Dak Prescott

  24. Way to welcome Prescott into the organization, Jerrah, by telling you wished you had taken someone else! Hey, I hear Johnny Football, who you also drooled over, is available, CHEAP! But way to go by overpaying with a 2nd for a guy that probably won’t see the field next year! Oh well, another 7 or 8 win season in the making which means you’ll have an excuse to fire the Ginger Puppet coach. Too bad you’re stuck the GM for a while.
    The Dallas Cowboys, a commiment to mediocrity since 1997.

  25. Seattle had an awesome draft. Thanks for the help Denver….

    And jerry, you had the deal with paxton done with Seattle’s help… I do think the kid made a mistake.

    Kinda like when you are sitting on a pair of cowboys before the flop in texas hold em, knowing the odds are in your favor to pick up a third for trips….

    you cant teach the kid something like this…. he has to learn and he will learn it was a big mistake to fold on this trade.

  26. Pastabelly, you are so full of it.
    Hardy was brought in on a proof your worth type deal.
    Gregory fell because of off-field issues.
    If you are going to spout off at least watch some football related news, that even includes BSPN.

  27. Well whaddya know, Dallas haters – looks like they have an effective and well-functioning system in place there.

    If Romo’s healthy, this team is the class of the division and a SB contender. Going to be some tough competition in the NFCE this season, but I think they’re the best of it.

  28. Hate to admit but Stephen actually seems to know what he is doing. Jerrah needs to set aside the ego and just kick back and let Junior take full control.

  29. jerryyouradisgrace says:
    May 2, 2016 9:44 AM
    Epic Fail for the Cowboys in this draft….one good pick, the rest projects….with all that starter talent looking them right in the face.
    Look at what the Jags got at the 5th slot…absolutely destroyed the boys
    My screen name says it all
    ———————–
    Elliott will make the pro bowl as a Rookie and Garrett thought Ramsay was very overrated after watching 14 games of film play by play.

    Last 6 drafts Dallas has drafted 5 pro bowlers in the first round. 4 all pros.

    Keep hating

  30. Going to be some tough competition in the NFCE this season, but I think they’re the best of it.
    ====

    I don’t see the “tough” competition in the NFC East. Redskins barely won the division when everyone else was total crap, the Giants overpaid dramatically for free agents, and the Birdies have a new coach and a QB who doesn’t want to be there.

  31. A couple of years ago, when Kaepernick was tearing up the NFL, Mike Brown came forward and said that he tried to draft Kaep, but was over ruled and the team went with Dalton. He would never have said this had he known Kaepernick was going to flame out so fast and Dalton would continue his rise. This deal in Dallas is the same thing, an owner opening up his big mouth, but at the same time giving a glimpse at the behind the scenes stuff as a way of saying “don’t blame me if it doesn’t work out, I’m not in charge anymore”.

  32. quicktaker says:
    May 2, 2016 10:24 AM
    Stephen’s approach may be more traditional but it is Jerry that created the empire using his bold intuition. Does the 90s Dallas juggernaut get created with a traditional approach? I think not.
    ————
    Too funny.

    If you knew a thing or two from the past you would know that the draft format used today league wide, pts ranking for players etc. Wad first used in the early 90s by the cowboys and jimmy johnson.

    Thanks for displaying your lack of football knowledge. Bash Dallas at all costs I guess

  33. boca12 says:
    May 2, 2016 10:35 AM
    Seattle had an awesome draft. Thanks for the help Denver….
    ——-
    You took an oline man wit a 6th round grade in the first round……..you need your old GM back

  34. jerryyouradisgrace says:
    May 2, 2016 9:44 AM

    Epic Fail for the Cowboys in this draft….one good pick, the rest projects….with all that starter talent looking them right in the face.
    Look at what the Jags got at the 5th slot…absolutely destroyed the boys
    My screen name says it all

    Your screen name says it all….too bad it should be you’re

  35. Great decision to hold off.

    Lynch is a three or four year project. He hasn’t played in anything like a pro system and with his long delivery he will telegraph throws for INTs for a couple years until they work it out of him.

  36. lol….I can’t believe how many comments from non-Cowboy fans are on this article about our draft 🙂 Talk about playing right in to the media’s hand.. Readership and TV ratings are what it is all about, people! To the poster who said we might become “relevant” again, let me assure you we have never been irrelevant! Do your research, especially on what team gets the highest TV ratings. I see so many gripe about the ‘Boys televised games and how many get flexed back into prime time. There is a reason for that. Love us or hate us, the AP poll, once again, voted the ‘Boys the favorite team, with the best fans…it’s called research 🙂 Try it..smh

  37. So now we know who is genuinely in control here. Mister Jerry Jones: do not ever run for President. This incident will only come back to bite you in the rear-end.

  38. LOL this article is wrong, the cowboys DID offer their 2nd & 3rd to Seattle, Seattle said NO because Denver offered their 1st & 3rd

  39. 700levelvet says:
    May 2, 2016 9:49 AM

    The…”Most mediocre franchise in sports”…that only has 5 more Super Bowl wins than my disgrace of a franchise.

    Fixed it for you.

  40. Jerry must be wimping out in his old age if he’s letting the little brat tell him what to do nowadays.

  41. They offered the Bills at 19 in the first round only a third round pick to move up to their spot. That trade wouldn’t work in the 3rd round to move up 12 spots let alone in the first round. Just shows you how out of touch he is. Unless you throw the 2017 first rounder, 2nd rounder in 2016, and another 2017 2nd rounder you are not moving anywhere from the second round to 2/3 down in the first round to draft anything.

  42. this was all cooked up, as was the manziel stuff a few years ago, to make the son look like he’s capable of taking the reins.

    no way jerry isn’t getting that qb if he really and truly wanted him since he is the de-facto coach, gm, chief medical officer as well as being the public relations spokesperson. so he’s going to let junior run the draft? think not. judge by what people do, not what they say….

  43. abninf says:
    May 2, 2016 12:06 PM
    The…”Most valuable franchise in sports”
    _________________

    Yep, a lot of people do enjoy a circus

  44. I love how this quote is being misreported. Stephen was telling Jerry that the price was too high for what they had hoped to pay. Peter King then IMMEDIATELY goes on to note that Stephen asks Jerry for thoughts, clearly leaving the window open for Jerry to decide to pay more. And Jerry decided to say nothing.

    This was not the case of Stephen telling Jerry what they’re going to do, but rather a case of the media taking a quote GROSSLY out of context. Lame.

  45. Almost all of you guys are CLOWNS.

    Do you REALLY think Paxton Lynch is ‘the guy’?

    REALLY?

    It’s all about the coach and the system the player is in. Would Tom Brady or Peyton Manning be regarded as high as they are if they had gone to Cleveland, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee/Houston?

    Have any of you losers even thought about maybe it isn’t the player himself but the team around him?

    YES – Dallas needs a really good backup QB because they are going to need it, but Lynch is YEARS away from that.

    IMO if they wanted a decent rookie QB they should have gone after Connor Cook. But who knows even on that one, but I know he is much MUCH more ‘Pro ready’ than Lynch is.

  46. @6ball,

    As the saying goes, hindsight is 20/20. The Cowboys wanted Elliott, and he was the highest player on their boards. Why trade to 6 and have the possibility of having another team trade to 5 for Elliott, and then miss out on both Ramsey or Elliott?
    Baltimore was trading up for Ramsey, NOT a lineman, and they were offering a 4th rd pick, not a 3rd. Not enough trade bait for Dallas, and too rich for Baltimore if Dallas required a 3rd rd pick for Ramsey.

    Leave the drafting to those who know what they are doing. Dallas had a very solid draft. Prescott was a great value at where he was picked, and not getting Lynch was a blessing in disguise, as Jaylon Smith, Collins, Tapper, and Prescott are on the team as a result.

    Like the rest of the haters, your post was unequivocally inept. The results of the draft will speak for itself. You can stop the armchair QB’ing of the draft like you know something.

  47. Not for nothing, and I absolutely hate the Cowboys, Stephen Jones is right. :/

    Let’s examine the ole trade chart developed by none other than Jerruh’s glory hole pal, Jimmy Johnson:

    Seattle’s 26th pick was worth 700 points on the trade chart

    Dallas’ 34th pick (2nd round) was worth 560 points + Dallas’ 67th pick (3rd round) was worth 255 points. Total of 815 points.

    The point difference, 115 points, is roughly equivalent to the 96th pick (End of the 3rd round compensation picks). In fact, 815 points is theoretically enough ammunition to trade up to the 21st overall pick (valued at 800 points on the trade chart).

    I hope Jerruh takes his team back soon. This whole “draft responsible” idea doesn’t fit in Dallas. Bring back the glory hole.

  48. All I can say is Cowboy fans should be grateful that things worked out the way they did. First off I believe that Prescott has more upside and should be the better of the 2. Getting Dak in the 4th is a better value than trading back for Lynch in the first. The Boy’s, as long as they’re healthy, will be in the thick it this. And I personally agree with their moves, if Smith gets healthy he just might be that key cornerstone player on defense that only comes along once a decade or so.

  49. “Time will tell if Smith and Collins turn out to be better NFL players than Lynch”

    Lynch would have sat for 4 years. Useless.

  50. collectordude says:
    May 2, 2016 10:03 AM
    At least one smart jones in that organization

    I know all them dumb self made Billionaires!

  51. With basically the same personnel on defense and a healthy romo and good run game 2 years ago dallas was one play away from the nfc championship game. Without taking one nfl snap i think zeke elliott is a better back than murray.

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