Browns owner trusting Jackson to mold QB after top of draft didn’t yield one

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When Browns owner Jimmy Haslam was begging people to trust him after firing the last set of coaches and personnel men, he made sure to point out that his team had the second pick in the draft with which to find a quarterback.

But after not using that pick, and waiting until the third round to take Southern Cal’s Cody Kessler, Haslam’s signing a different tune, saying he trusts new coach Hue Jackson to make it work.

His track record’s been pretty good,” Haslam said of Jackson, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “You all understand as well as we do the importance of that position. You just look at the teams that are really good in the NFL and for the most part they’re really good at that position.

“I think we have a head coach who understands talent at that position but equally as important how to coach them. You’re all at practice, and he’s coaching the quarterbacks hard every day, and I think that’ll make a difference over a period of time.”

Jackson has a good reputation for his work with quarterbacks, but this would be his most impressive bit of alchemy yet.

With Robert Griffin III and Josh McCown and Kessler, the Browns aren’t overburdened with talent — the kind of talent other teams were eager to trade up to acquire. Despite previously using that second pick as a sign of hope for a franchise that needs some, the Browns owner endorsed the pair of trade-downs that netted his team more picks but none until the 15th overall choice (which was used on Baylor wideout Corey Coleman).

“No, we had been talking about various opportunities since the end of the season and I think the guys did a really nice job of working through it and thinking things through,” Haslam said. “You all know the math as well as I do and when you trade out of the No. 2 pick, you get value and I think we turned the No. 2 pick into the No. 8 and then quickly the No. 15 pick into tremendous value and now the key thing is to use that value. . . .

“We got a lot of players,” he said. “When you count the defensive back [Jamar Taylor] we got from Miami, we got 15 players and I think what’s equally important is that we positioned ourselves well for the next two drafts, so we’re excited.”

They might not be good soon, but they have multiple picks in the first and second round next year and the second round in 2018, after all their trades.

So if nothing else, Haslam has more hope to sell in the future.

54 responses to “Browns owner trusting Jackson to mold QB after top of draft didn’t yield one

  1. This won’t end well. Love Hue but he’s biting off way more than he can chew.

  2. Jimmy – You had the opportunity to take a QB in round 1 like Carson Wentz, but elected to trade down and get more Draft picks. Please don’t start bemoaning that you didn’t yield one at the top of the Draft. It was a conscious decision by your employees and “experts”.
    Jimmy Haslam – the worst owner in the NFL.

  3. Haslam sure seems to be the type of person that keeps a close eye on his business. Well, expect when the business is stealing millions from it’s customers. Then he has no idea what his top people were doing or where all that money came from.

  4. “With Robert Griffin III and Josh McCown and Kessler, the Browns aren’t overburdened with talent — the kind of talent other teams were eager to trade up to acquire”

    Ummmm…the Redskins were awfully eager to trade up for RG3 a few years ago.

  5. As a football enthusiast, I’m actually looking forward to the match-up between the Browns and Bengals.

    Being that Jackson is all too familiar with how they operate, I would think that Marvin Lewis would be forced to deviate from the norm in order to secure a win.

  6. “With Robert Griffin III and Josh McCown and Kessler, the Browns aren’t overburdened with talent — the kind of talent other teams were eager to trade up to acquire.”

    Think about this statement and reflect upon it for a moment. Let is sink in.

    1. Irony that RGIII was considered elite talent worth trading up for just 4 years ago. How times change.

    2. Does the story of RGIII strengthen or weaken the implication that teams are wiser to draft a QB # 1 or # 2 and think that they will have “the solution at QB?”

    If a high draft pick at QB = elite, then RGIII is still elite talent and Jackson can get something out of him where others failed.

    If RGIII is not elite talent, then it’s a cautionary tale that a high draft pick doesn’t ensure success and so this year’s # 1 or # 2 aren’t any more certain.

    Bottom line, it’s somewhat of a risky proposition either way. It does seem that Jackson feels that RGIII still has potential and that he can harness it. I am not a huge RGIII fan but feel that owner does owe it to Jackson to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he pulls it off it will be huge. In 2012, RGIII looked like that once in a generation player. But he’s got to stay healthy, and I think that’s the big hurdle.

  7. The Browns and Haslam have made boneheaded decisions the last few years but their 2016 draft was above average. Having the baseball guy onboard is a big deal and it showed with some of the players acquired.

  8. Every year they tell us the future looks good, but it’s usually directly after the end of a terrible season, this time it is closer to the beginning of a terrible season.

    Look at my screen name. I made this account like 5 years ago and we’ve done the “rebuilding” thing 3 times since then!

    I can’t help but root for the Browns because its been ingrained in me from birth, but damn I would like to watch some football this year. I have a 2nd favorite team but they just might become my primary. Tired of paying for a terrible product year after year.

  9. I hope the Browns can get it together. I’m not a fan, but their fans deserve so me success. And anything that keeps the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens from penciling in W’s is good with me.

  10. Being realistic:

    The Browns have just as good a chance, if not better, in RG3 turning into a starting QB as the Rams and Eagles have turning their picks into starting QB’s, and they didn’t have to trade the farm to get him.

  11. Hubris had Jason Campbell playing high level football in Oakland before JC went down for the season. Don’t just write this guy off.

  12. That pic of Haslam…. he looks like the old guy on Cheech and Chong that keeps laughing when Michael Winslow makes the noises… lol

  13. Haslam NEEDS to let Hue and his 5 year plan take effect. If Haslam can do that and not fire him, they will be VERY competitive.

  14. They had a good draft and have a good quarterback situation imo.

    Make no mistake – the Browns will struggle and likely finish in the bottom 10 of the league. In this rebuilding season, they can evaluate if Griffin or Kessler can be the man or if they need to maybe trade up with many of their extra picks for another quarterback.

  15. If the Brownies did draft a quality QB, the dude would spend his first year running for his life, and probably end up injured.

    Every 3 years, they hire a complete new staff, and team, have a fire sale to give away any remaining talent from previous administration. Thomas is only remaining survivor.

  16. I would LOL at Browns fans believing in RGKnee, but it’s too sad to laugh at them. It’s not their fault their team/owner/front office suck.

    The draft will be another lesson that many folks already know quality>quantity. The Browns will be lucky if they got 2 players that will be around in 3 years. And when you have 14 picks that’s a shame.

  17. Draft didn’t yield one???????

    You could have drafted Wentz… but traded down
    You could have drafted Lynch… but traded down
    You could have drafted Cook… (whos from OH)… you said NO
    You could have drafted Hackensberg… but said no

    Your on your own now.

  18. Hue Jackson had Jason Campbell playing at the top of his game and then Andy Dalton–who we now take seriously as a quarterback. Cleveland has four picks in the first two rounds next year if Griffin (and McCown) don’t improve under Jackson.

    There is a two-of-three chance that Goff, Wentz, and Lynch will flop–at least that what the last 15 years has shown–and we’ll be taking about them with nearly the same contempt we’re discussing Griffin in four years.

  19. phinfan says:
    May 10, 2016 10:44 AM
    Draft didn’t yield one???????

    You could have drafted Wentz… but traded down
    You could have drafted Lynch… but traded down
    You could have drafted Cook… (whos from OH)… you said NO
    You could have drafted Hackensberg… but said no

    Your on your own now.

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    Lynch was probably the play here…didn’t need to draft 500 receivers…

  20. “With Robert Griffin III and Josh McCown and Kessler, the Browns aren’t overburdened with talent — the kind of talent other teams were eager to trade up to acquire”

    Ummmm…the Redskins were awfully eager to trade up for RG3 a few years ago.

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    “A few years ago”…A loooong few years for RG3.

  21. mrmcdougle says:
    May 10, 2016 9:20 AM

    Being realistic:

    The Browns have just as good a chance, if not better, in RG3 turning into a starting QB as the Rams and Eagles have turning their picks into starting QB’s, and they didn’t have to trade the farm to get him.

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    You keep using that word, “realistic”… I do not think it means what you think it means.

  22. I just have this picture of Coach Jackson crawled up in the corner as an Analytics machine and a baseball scout are running the draft.

  23. We have two decent starting QB’s (if they don’t get injured) and drafted a decent QB. Plus we won’t waste any time or energy on the Johnny Football fiasco anymore. We have some taller wideouts and some new defensive players. I think we have better coaches. I like what they’re doing. We will definitely win more games than last year. I would put money on that. But, we have to wait and see. In the end, it’s always a crapshoot until they start playing games.

  24. Hue thinks RGIII is better than any QBs in the draft (and I think he’s right)! Why can’t the media and fans get that message?Within the first couple of games it will be apparent that he is “franchise”& “elite” and the Browns are set for the next 10 years.

    Also,I always ask this question (and always get a ‘thumbs down’) but has anyone seen Wentz not stare down his receiver? That’s just a question. If I was an Eagles fan I’d be worried. I don’t think that film exists.Just one play….that’s all…is there ONE play that shows he is not Weeden 2.0?

  25. Don’t forget Austin Davis and Connor Shaw!

    “If you have two quarterbacks, you don’t have a quarterback”

    What if you have 5 quarterbacks? You don’t have a back up quarterback either?

  26. Andy Dalton did not improve because of Hue. He spent way more time with Dr. Tom House, the last 2 off seasons, and with Ken Zampese his QB coach who is now the Offensive Coordinator. Hue was a play caller, who every game would kill at least one successful drive by trying to be cute (showing the league he’s a genius). Now as a motivator he can talk a better game than any other coach in the league, but quit giving him credit for Andy improving to being an MVP candidate before he broke his thumb. 5 years experience, House, and Zampese were the reason. Miss Hue, but believe the Bengals will have a much better play caller this year.
    Browns if you hit on 50% of the guys you drafted its a successful draft. Better hope the baseball guy know his stuff.

  27. I know RG3 has a lot to prove but it amazes me how the sports writers just overlook him. I know he stunk it up in Jay Gruden’s inflexible offense, but I have to believe Hugh Jackson can be a little more creative with how to use a scrambling QB.

  28. They’re ok at QB for now, glad they addressed other positions. Smartest thing they’ve done in a while. Wish they would have gotten Brandon Doughty instead of Kessler though

  29. Browns fans act like they haven’t watched RGMe the last couple years. For one he won’t last in the AFCN. He can’t protect himself as is, let alone against the defenses he’ll face TWICE a year.

    I’m not going to hate too much on Browns fans. Tis the season for blind optimism, but everyone else knows IRGIII’s career was over after Shanny left him in that playoff game. Browns fans really know, even if they think he is elite. He’s damaged goods, and not even Hue can save him from the beating he’s about to take behind that makeshift line they’ve got “protecting” him.

    Good luck with RG3-7 (the last time he was a starter) though Cleveland fans.

  30. troylok says:
    May 10, 2016 1:41 PM

    I know RG3 has a lot to prove but it amazes me how the sports writers just overlook him. I know he stunk it up in Jay Gruden’s inflexible offense, but I have to believe Hugh Jackson can be a little more creative with how to use a scrambling QB.
    ————————-

    The last thing you want is that guy scrambling around. He’s too fragile and makes poor decisions.

  31. He is right… the draft didn’t yield a franchise guy….

    Just because your team put their hopes in Wentz or Jeoff, don’t get salty that Cleveland passed them by.

  32. Browns fans chill for a minute. I am a die hard Redskin fan let me tell you RG3 can play , there was so much behind the scenes drama during the Shanahan and Gruden era he never really had a chance nor did those coaches have his back.

    This kid can make all the throws, Hue Jackson will be sure to utilize him in a scheme that fits his talent.

    Gruden is an idiot he has had one good season in DC , Cousins has had one good season so the jury is still out, Gruden refused to use a scheme that worked for RG3 nor did he like him personally for what ever reason.. As long as you all have a deep threat , decent running game and a reliable tightend you will be in for a treat . Good luck

  33. Must be tough for Brown fans – but keep your head up guys, you at least have one thing in common – both had their last playoff wins with belichick coaching.

  34. rg is a shot football player Cleveland and the fact is hue fell into what gruden left him in cinncy,the only thing that you browns fans have is the memory of what could have been..carson wentz

  35. I think Hue is the one man that can keep RGIII’s ego in check. Lets face it, his track record with average to bad quarterbacks is pretty darn good. He is a Bust Whispered.

  36. Conner Cook is from just outside Cleveland, and he was the best player in this draft. They had multiple chances to pick him. RG3 is like Michael Vick. They’re unstoppable until they go on the injured list. Then what? I don’t think there is a QB coming out next year that is as good as Conner Cook. Is Haslam going to clean house again in two years? These guys just missed the 2016 version of Tom Brady. Oh my!

  37. I look at it like this, the Browns need almost everything so a lot of picks make sense. So if they make at least the average on picking these guys they will have bettered the team. I don’t know much about the QB they drafted but III will get them through and if things go the way they could go, a early pick in a better QB class next year might turn out to be the better move. It’s not likely they will make the playoffs in Jackson’s first year no matter who is at QB.

  38. imnotsorryisaidthat says:
    May 10, 2016 6:10 PM

    rg is a shot football player Cleveland and the fact is hue fell into what gruden left him in cinncy,the only thing that you browns fans have is the memory of what could have been..carson wentz
    —————————————————————-
    I am going to resist the temptation to use capitalization, punctuation, and the correct spelling to make this millennial’s post readable.

    What does it say when someone can’t write two readable sentences in their native language?
    Yeah, get off my lawn, but more in the Clint Eastwood “Grand Torino” style.

  39. Some folks are sadly optimistic, but RG3, has been in NFL for 4 years, and has not solved most of his fundamental QB problems. So, what makes you think he’s gonna change now. Last year he was beaten in competition, by a young dude with much less experience, and blew several excellent chances, before he ended up riding the pine.
    I personally believe he was a bargain basement opportunity, who will be quickly discarded.

  40. Don’t forget the true story:

    Hue WANTED to take a QB at #2, when the team at 1 didn’t need a QB. Another team traded into 1 to take the QB that Hue wanted.

    Hue didn’t like the #2 QB as much as the #1 QB. He valued the #1 QB more highly. So instead of taking the #2 QB (who may not have even been Hue’s 3rd or 4th choice according some stories) who he DIDN’T like, he traded out to get more picks. Which makes sense for a team that 1. Needs a lot of picks because they lack talent and depth everywhere and 2. Has a history of taking 1stRd QB busts just because they are there and they need a QB and a guy happens to be available that no one is in love with.

  41. And people are too focused on RG3. The pick wasn’t about him or Josh McCown. It was about the QB not being available to draft in the 1st round because the Browns didn’t have the #1 pick. If the QB was still going to be there at 2, they would have taken him. This says more about Goff vs. Wentz as assessed by the Browns, than anything about RG3. The Browns basically thought Goff was P. Manning and Wentz was R. Leaf and they didn’t want Leaf.

    Matt Hasselbeck was a 6th rounder in that draft by the way. Rather have him or Leaf? Most people would rather have drafted Charlie Batch (2nd) or Brian Griese (3) than Leaf, too.

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