More owners seem to be warming to idea of Las Vegas Raiders

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At least one influential owner, John Mara of the Giants, went on the record in March to say that, for most owners, putting a team in Las Vegas would be a “non-starter.” Another influential owner (or, in theory, possibly the same influential owner) has recently addressed the situation via off-the-record quotes, expressing both opposition to the concept but resignation to the reality that, if Oakland won’t ante up to keep the Raiders, Las Vegas should be allowed to snag them.

“I think it would be a tough sell, but I don’t think it’s impossible,” the unnamed owner told Gary Myers of the New York Daily News. “If they put such a good deal in front of the Raiders, it has a chance of getting support. I would prefer not to have the Raiders there. I would prefer they stay where they are. Oakland is a great market, but if there is no opportunity to put a stadium there, it would be hard to blame them for moving. I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to it if it’s the best alternative. If it’s between Las Vegas and being stuck in an awful stadium, there is nowhere else to go.”

Legalized gambling would be an issue, to be sure. But the NFL has been staging regular-season games in England for nearly a decade now, where casual gambling permeates the culture.

“It would be a concern to have exposure to all these people out there, more so than any other area,” the unnamed owner said. “It would have to be discussed and everybody would have to be comfortable with it.”

With Las Vegas planning to fork over 66 percent of the cost of building a stadium at a time when Oakland is willing to kick in roughly zero, it won’t be hard for everybody to quickly get comfortable with an NFL team moving to a place where legal gambling happens — especially since all teams have been residing for decades in places where illegal gambling occurs.

46 responses to “More owners seem to be warming to idea of Las Vegas Raiders

  1. gambling is also legal in Mexico where the NFL has stated its desires’ to host a future game there as well

    in a global economy where it’s possible to bet via a computer from anywhere in the world i have a very hard time believing that the barrier preventing people from leaning on players to throw games and degrade the integrity of the game is the distance from a casino

  2. and a big welcome to Las Vegas as the NFL’s newest official “you better pay for a sparkling new stadium for your current franchise or we’re moving it here” city

  3. I wonder how players feel about Las Vegas?

    For example, Oak has been a nice destination for FA’s because the team is better and the Bay Area in Cali is a beautiful place to live. Would they still be attracted to the Raiders if they were in LV? Can you raise a family there?

  4. As long as the tax payer and PSL buyers finance it, so the owner and the NFL pay 0, it sounds like a good idea.

    I’m still worried the Raiders wont sell enough PSLs and wont fill enough luxury boxes to make a good profit. Maybe rent the luxury boxes by the week to gambling visitors.

    Any city that isn’t willing to pay almost $1 billion via tax payer funding, isn’t worthy of having an NFL team.
    It’s your patriotic duty to support the NFL.

  5. When all the movement talk was going onwith the Rams/Chargers/Raiders, no one was talking about Vegas.
    Kudo’s to Mark for pulling this rabbit out of the hat.

    Think about it for a minute…as an opposing fan or as a player/coach/owner, where would you rather go to watch your team, Vegas or Oakland?
    No contest.

    For the Vegas locals it will be like adding 8 more conventions to the calendar every year and the tourist money just keeps rolling in.

  6. jjb0811 says:
    May 10, 2016 4:12 PM

    New Jersey has legalized gambling too. Nothing ever said about he Giants and Jets playing there.
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    What does that have to do with anything?

    The only place you can legally bet on sports, in the United States, is in Las Vegas.

  7. Catch a show, do a little gambling then go watch a Raider game…….sounds good to me!

  8. dangerbird28 says:
    May 10, 2016 4:06 PM
    and a big welcome to Las Vegas as the NFL’s newest official “you better pay for a sparkling new stadium for your current franchise or we’re moving it here” city

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    Actually, the tourists will pay for it, with a predetermined rise in the hotel & rent-a-car use taxes. Also, it’s being supported financially by Sandy Alderson, who is one of the richest casino owners on the planet and a stauch Republican, as are most of the owners.

    The pressure to vote YES to Vegas will be coming next spring, if not sooner.

    Love it!

  9. illumination666 says:
    May 10, 2016 4:18 PM

    I wonder how players feel about Las Vegas?

    For example, Oak has been a nice destination for FA’s because the team is better and the Bay Area in Cali is a beautiful place to live. Would they still be attracted to the Raiders if they were in LV? Can you raise a family there?

    I can answer that for you right now, if you’re a player would you rather play in a state with one of the highest state taxes in the nation or a state that doesn’t have any state tax? Not to mention Clark county (Las Vegas) is one of the fastest growing counties in the U.S with very affordable housing.

  10. “The only place you can legally bet on sports, in the United States, is in Las Vegas.”

    Wrong. Christie signed legislation legalizing sports betting in 2012.

  11. Mark Davis is worth $500M, how is he going to pay a relocation fee of $500M and still kick in $500M towards the stadium?

  12. I have lived in Nevada and have I lived to tell you all that there is no ocean there – no ocean means no pirates/raiders. Maybe the Las Vegas Horny Toads.

  13. As jjb0811 says New Jersey has legalized for years and Atlantic City is often referred to the Las Vegas of the east so what’s the big deal? I also find it a bit hypocritical of the Giants owner Mr. Mara to oppose a move to Las Vegas when he has his team in a new stadium in a gambling state.

  14. Really don’t see why gambling being legal there would be an issue. Its not as if someone is going to be more likely to bet on or against the Raiders just because they are the home team. As long as it is not permitted in the stadium and the team does not promote it, let them move there.

  15. jaxbeachjagfan says:
    May 10, 2016 4:55 PM
    Wrong. Christie signed legislation legalizing sports betting in 2012.
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    And it still hasn’t cleared the courts and the outlook isn’t good.

    As for the Raiders: Just Vegas Baby!

  16. I’m already planning a trip. NFL in Vegas will be huge for the city. raider nation will travel from all over. Is there any bigger Show to put on in Vegas?

  17. Mara was in favor of Carson over Hollywood Park How did that work out ? Mara is no longer influential as most think he is. Part of the old guard that is briskly being tossed to the side of the road.

  18. nnagi says:
    May 10, 2016 4:55 PM

    Mark Davis is worth $500M, how is he going to pay a relocation fee of $500M and still kick in $500M towards the stadium?
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    The NFL lets him pay the relocation fee over 10 years, so he would make payments as withholds out of the TV revenue. The $500M was for a move to LA, the fee for a move to LV would definitely be less as it is not as lucrative of a market.

  19. intrafinesse says:
    May 10, 2016 4:26 PM

    I’m still worried the Raiders wont sell enough PSLs and wont fill enough luxury boxes to make a good profit. Maybe rent the luxury boxes by the week to gambling visitors.

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    Apparently you’ve never been to Vegas. The casinos would be stumbling over themselves to buy boxes and 50 yard line seats for high-rollers. They don’t need to rent them week-to-week, they want to know what they have available for different gamblers so they can entice Bob from Boston to come watch the Pats play the Raiders in the MGM Suite at the stadium. They would buy multiple suites because they have so many high-rollers they would want to comp access to. MGM also runs casinos all over the world and would readily fly in a gambler from China who happens to be a Dolphins fan in order to keep him happy.

  20. mmack66 says:
    May 10, 2016 4:43 PM

    What does that have to do with anything?

    The only place you can legally bet on sports, in the United States, is in Las Vegas.

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    Wrong. You can also bet on sports in Oregon, Delaware, and Montana. Get your facts right.

  21. John Mara, the head of the New York Nightmara crime syndicate, is irrelevant and should be treated with contempt and disrespect for being a dishonest, unethical, and criminal person. He and his misfit family are complicit in their rico act conduct of contriving a salary cap in an uncapped year and extorting other teams.

  22. Remember those images of the paper cups taped to the ceiling in the Oakland stadium? That’s how bad it is. If Oakland isn’t interested in building a new stadium, then Viva Las Vegas, baby.

    My only suggestion is that the NFL should not accept the offer of $150M from The Sands casino. The league doesn’t need the money, and in general it isn’t a good idea to let the camel’s nose under the tent.

  23. I guess I’m just a sentimental old fool, but the Raiders belong in Oakland. And I’m a Pats fan.

  24. I am praying that this doesn’t happen. I want to preserve NFL history and Oakland is a big time football town. Don’t screw over these loyal fans, you guys already destroyed the Browns. Leave Oakland alone! I wish I could do more than whine on comment boards for Raiders fans, I really do. I got your back, I’ll troll my butt off for you guys.

  25. lanjoith says:
    May 10, 2016 4:57 PM
    Las Vegas Raiders sounds cheesy. Need to be called Vegas Raiders or Nevada Raiders.

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    Las Vegas Bandits

  26. You’ll notice, the owner with any real power goes on record saying it will never happen. Some anonymous guy says off the record that he thinks it could happen.

    It’ll never happen, but this is as fun as watching their fans thinking this is the season they’ll finally get over the loser hump.

    Priceless entertainment. See ya same time next year.

  27. Casual gambling is big in Europe. There are a number of soccer teams there that have “Bet365” plastered on the front of their jerseys as the primary sponsor. And every stadium has a betting business listing on the advert runner on the sidelines.

    As far as living in Vegas, it’s probably OK. If you had a kid there growing up, he can go to Bishop Gorman High and be a star. While Vegas has had it’s share of economic problems, it’s not all The Strip.

  28. Why would you move to a city that is designed to provide an unrelenting temptation to gamble and drink booze – to impair your judgment to resist the temptation to gamble and be fiscally responsible.

    Every intent of Las Vegas is to siphon money from your pockets. I mean there is nothing to do in Las Vegas but to gamble and carouse.

    Plus the Raiders moving to Vegas dilutes the Cardinals, Chargers, and Rams’ fan bases because the Raiders are so popular in that region. When I went to Phoenix last week that’s all they were talking about.

    Plus even if it’s an antiquated notion to think the mob influences Las Vegas-which nobody would ever know because Cosa Nostra is more secretive than the CIA. Nobody knows what they have their hands on or where there wetting their beaks. Las Vegas and Professional sports will always have a stigma of conspiracy and corruption.

  29. More owners are warming up to the Vegas idea because they realize that getting a new stadium in Oakland is a lost cause. Oakland has zero to offer. Staying there would be a waste. The financial potential of having Super Bowls in Vegas off the charts.

  30. I want a new stadium as much as any Raiders fan, but Nevada? I’m not to fond about my team playing in a desert. I’m not feeling it.

  31. It would be a great for the league and the Raiders to go into an untapped growth market like Las Vegas. Las Vegas isn’t really that close to any other NFL market:

    270 miles from Los Angeles
    297 from Phoenix
    747 miles from Denver

    It would not just be visiting tourists that would go to games. People in cities like Henderson, NV and other cities around Las Vegas would adopt the Raiders as their home team.

  32. Obviously Oakland would be preferred but it looks like the City isn’t willing or able to do anything but get in the way of getting a deal done. They won’t help with financing or offer up the land. They sign a ten year lease with A’s that basically takes the coleseum site out of play. Since Oakland isn’t going to work Lad Vegas seems like an excellent option. They have money and land and are willing to work with the Raiders. It’s a short flight from Oakland or LA. I think it will be popular with players. Plenty for the single guys to do and it is actually a nice place to raise a family. Housing is very reasonable and you don’t pay state income taxes! That’s a huge raise for everyone. The casinos will most likely buy up all the luxury boxes so it makes financial sense for the team. Let’s get a deal done so my Raiders finally have a decent place to play.

  33. mmack66 says:
    May 10, 2016 4:43 PM
    jjb0811 says:
    May 10, 2016 4:12 PM

    New Jersey has legalized gambling too. Nothing ever said about he Giants and Jets playing there.
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    What does that have to do with anything?

    The only place you can legally bet on sports, in the United States, is in Las Vegas.

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    Exactly! And no athlete would ever “illegally” bet on sports.

    Plus, there is simply no way for these athletes to even get to Las Vegas unless they were actually playing there. I mean, it’s not like they have the free time or discretionary income to just go there on their own whenever they like.

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