NFL has no comment on possible violation by Eagles with Wentz/Goff talks

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On Thursday, PFT reported that the Eagles secured a verbal commitment from quarterbacks Jared Goff and Carson Wentz that both would accept offsets if the Eagles traded up to No. 2 and made one of them the selection.

Some have suggested that the Eagles violated the rules by engaging in pre-draft discussions with agents representing incoming rookies, pointing out that only the team that holds the first overall pick may negotiate terms before the draft.

The NFL declined comment on the situation. Whether the NFL actually does anything about it becomes a question for the vague, arbitrary process that arises from a habit widespread violations of the rules and limited, selective enforcement.

Regardless, the discussions occurred. And surely other similar discussions have occurred and will continue to occur. Maybe the league will take action, maybe it won’t.

62 responses to “NFL has no comment on possible violation by Eagles with Wentz/Goff talks

  1. Sure but they stink so nothing will happen to them. If it were the Patriots Goodell would insist they forfeit a game or two.

  2. if they made a big deal about the balls they better make a big deal about this and everything moving forward.

    They broke the rules. Thats what the point of deflategate was, right Roger?

  3. Ted Wells, Roger is on line one with a handful of cash and instructions on what you should most likely find.

  4. My confidence in the integrity of the league has been lessened by this incident.

  5. nhpats says:
    May 13, 2016 12:48 PM
    Sure but they stink so nothing will happen to them. If it were the Patriots Goodell would insist they forfeit a game or two.
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    LOL, dang. Pats fans have become professional victims. That’s so 2016.

  6. They’ll have to forfeit the pick and Wentz will go into the supplemental draft. Only fair outcome. I mean Philly made the whole trade up based on illegal info.

  7. PegulaBucks says:
    May 13, 2016 12:51 PM

    if they made a big deal about the balls they better make a big deal about this and everything moving forward.

    They broke the rules. Thats what the point of deflategate was, right Roger?
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    Deflategate was an ill-conceived and poorly executed attempt by Roger Goodell to get his mojo back. It cost him a few million dollars in bribes, but it worked. For now.

    It’s more probable than not that the NFL will announce one of it’s many “investigations” into the matter, and no one will ever hear about it again.

  8. That’s Jeff Lurie and showing his “emotional intelligence” while taking a “collaborative approach” to achieving the “gold standard.”

  9. Oh brother………one violation is a cheapskate team negotiating pre-draft with one or the other that falls to 2nd…….the other is a pretty boy QB who has his ball boys smuggle bag of balls into a closet Pre game to soften footballs……and then sit like a pouty brat with arms crossed for next 5 years causing 25 million or more in legal costs to say…..”nope, wasn’t me.”

  10. whether or not any discipline happens is most likely dependent on whether or not Jeff Lurie joined Robert Kraft and Clark Hunt in the 2011 CBA talks when those poisoning the negotiations (led by poisonator-in-chief Jeff Pash) were removed from the talks, which resulted in a settlement with the NFLPA.

    If he was in….the Eagles are gonna pay…..if not, they’ll be slapped on the wrist Woody Johnson style.

  11. A suspension, $1M, and two draft picks seems to be the going rate for the smallest of infractions, real or imagined. Unless you’re the Jets and all your ex-employees in the league office can just hand-wave it.

  12. Plus…..Jeff Lurie was once a Patriots season ticket holder and bid on buying the Patriots before Kraft did (thank goodness he didn’t)…..that in and of itself is enough to warrant a draft pick or 2.

  13. Did the Eagle snegotiate terms?
    OR
    Did they ask “Will you be willing to play for us? We want to avoid an Eli Manning – San Diego scenario”

    How is the later case a violation, since terms were not discussed?
    The article doesn’t show any evidence that there was any discussion about terms.

    >>Some have suggested that the Eagles violated the rules by engaging in pre-draft discussions with agents representing incoming rookies, pointing out that only the team that holds the first overall pick may negotiate terms before the draft.

  14. how’s that song go ? HATERS gonna hate hate hate , i’ama gonna shake shake shake it off , shake it off.

    FLY EAGLES FLY !

  15. They should suspend Wentz for the first four games and/or take away the Eagles first round pick next year. Sorry Cleveland; you are out of luck.

  16. jackedupboonie says:
    May 13, 2016 1:33 PM

    Oh brother………one violation is a cheapskate team negotiating pre-draft with one or the other that falls to 2nd…….the other is a pretty boy QB who has his ball boys smuggle bag of balls into a closet Pre game to soften footballs……and then sit like a pouty brat with arms crossed for next 5 years causing 25 million or more in legal costs to say…..”nope, wasn’t me.”
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    I was thinking that “the other” might have been the deflategate fraud perpetrated by Goodell, but none of that stuff you mentioned happened, so it couldn’t have been.

  17. jackedupboonie says:
    May 13, 2016 1:33 PM
    Oh brother………one violation is a cheapskate team negotiating pre-draft with one or the other that falls to 2nd…….the other is a pretty boy QB who has his ball boys smuggle bag of balls into a closet Pre game to soften footballs……and then sit like a pouty brat with arms crossed for next 5 years causing 25 million or more in legal costs to say…..”nope, wasn’t me.”

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    So you believe Brady ordered the ball boys to remove less than 0.2PSI from each ball? Damn, he must have some unbelievable touch to perceive such a minute difference in ball pressure…..

    Think about it for a few seconds, it does not even make sense. And it only made sense to Ted Wells if he used the pressure gauge that Walt Anderson claimed he did not use!

  18. Probably why they paid as much as they did to move up knowing they could get popped…. Wouldn’t be surprised if they got to skate by unscathed unlike my CHIEFS who were made an example of for something other organizations have blatantly executed… Too much inconsistency in this league nowadays.

  19. I Hate Roger “My daddy was a senator and he told me I’d be NFL commissioner one day” Goodell…

  20. Arlen Specter would turn a blind eye towards this if he was still here…even though he was blind when he and Eagle fans thought filming from the wrong location cost them a Super Bowl and not their puking QB.

  21. I’m assuming that it’s the Eagles that cried to the NFL about the Chiefs tampering case. If that’s the case, there’s no way the Eagles should be able to get away with something like this.

  22. John Mara is still Chairman of the NFL’s Management Council Executive Committee. And the Eagles are in his division.

    This is the same group that levied salary cap fines on the Cowboys and Redskins, and hit the Saints with bounty-gate penalties.

    I would be very concerned if I was an Eagles fan.

  23. so now chief fans will begin to see how Godell operates.

    amazing the thinking of some people, for .2 psig a fine of million dollars, a number one pick and a number 5 pick, and then a four game suspension. BUT, a franchise QB conversation that determines if you will make a trade, something that impacts the league for possibly 12 years, just brush it away?

    Really?

  24. Cheaters. Put an asterisk beside all of their Super Bowl Championships.

    Oh wait, the Eagles don’t have any Super Bowls Championships. LOL

  25. 205diamonds says:
    May 13, 2016 1:07 PM
    Will they get the Jets or the Chiefs treatment?
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    Lurie has been a solid rubber stamp for 345 Park Ave, just like Woody Johnson. Hunt has asked too many questions. What way do you think it’s going to go.

  26. So we’ll be seeing Chiefs-level penalties any day now, right, NFL league office? Right?

    Right?

  27. And, as usual, the wobegotten pats* fans twist this into serving their “victim” narrative.

    Is there any thread that’s safe from their whining?

  28. Actually a pretty serious charge if true . If one or both said no would the Eagles have traded up ? The entire draft could have been impacted by this violation if true . Interested to see how Roger ” the enforcer ” Goodell handles this if proven true .

  29. Gee I wonder why Pats fans are known for being crybabies?
    Could you imagine how they would react if something actually bad happened to them? Talk about mentally soft….

  30. Not sure where there should be a problem with this. It’s not like they could sign one and then say HaHa, you can’t draft em. They picked second they talked money to obviously the 2 guys they had 1 & 2, what did it hurt.
    And cheatriot fans every time you open your mouths you alienate yourselves further from every other fan in the world. You sound like the snot nosed little whiney brat that cries till he gets his way. Nobody likes that kid, or you.

  31. Tralfaz because they did it before the traded up to number 2. so if the Qbs would have said no they may not have traded up which would change the ENTIRE draft.

  32. The terms are already written in stone before anyone is even drafted.

    The Eagles and EVERY other team in the NFL talks to potential players and their agents prior to the draft, that is their JOB.

    To say that it influenced anything is outrageous. The Eagles already moved up once, and everyone knew they wanted to move up for either of the two QB prospects. The Facts that they talked to them and their agent and it didn’t change their mind that QB1 or QB2 were going to be the guy, that is part of the draft process.

    Great Article Mike.

  33. what’s outrageous is too assume it had no influence. only teams drafting number one can negotiate anything, at the time Philthy was picking 8

  34. How is asking a player if we trade up to get you, will you be willing to play for us, a violation? I doubt any salary numbers were talked about considering he just finally signed his contract. Also Chiefs fans don’t act like the eagles got the pick that was stripped from you. You still got maclin and WE DID NOT. And to you patriots fans you are a joke!! None of you seem to realize that the infraction with deflategate wasn’t that big of a deal until you denied, denied, denied! I mean why would he destroy his phone the day before meeting with investigators who were going to want to see that very same phone. All the crap after the actual deflating of the balls is what got you guys in that much trouble. It’s like if you get pulled over by a cop and start giving him an attitude. Chances are that any break he was going to give you just went right out the door! Get over pats fans, it happened wether you believe it or not.

  35. If they broke the rules. They are cheaters and must be punished as so!!! Lower the hammer. This an integrity issue.

  36. They didn’t ask that though, they asked specific contract issues such as contract offsets. It is against the rules period to talk contract specifics (which offsets are)/before being on the clock in the draft. It really isn’t difficult to understand.

  37. Boy this really had an effect on any other team out there, right? Crybaby Pats fans are frothing at the mouth trying to compare in-game cheating to pre-draft, slam dunk 1/2 picks being talked to about contracts beforehand. Nice try guys.

  38. It doesn’t matter if it would have helped or hurt another team. The fact of the matter is that they willingly broke a standing rule. I will make it simple if you run a red light in the middle of nowhere with no one for miles it does not mean that you didn’t break the law it just means that you got away with breaking the law. They got cought so pay the fine and go on and don’t do it again.

  39. “It’s about the ***INTEGRITY*** of the game!!”
    — Just Another Senator’s Son (aka Just Another Fortunate One)

    What’s that, Roger? What d’ya mean, “Never mind”?! Are you trying to tell me that the NFL has two diametrically opposed sets of ethical and competitive standards, little man?

  40. tlefczik4: “How is asking a player if we trade up to get you, will you be willing to play for us, a violation? I doubt any salary numbers were talked about considering he just finally signed his contract.”

    The advantage of breaking this particular rule is that information is power. Philadelphia illicitly obtained information which made their draft preparation easier and reduced the risk of exercising their choice on draft day. EVERY manager in EVERY business knows full well how crucial such seemingly small edges are to EVERY organization’s success or failure.

    Martha Stewart went to Federal prison for a similar violation, which secured her a competitive advantage in the secondary market for financial securities. While the Eagles’ alleged violation isn’t currently illegal, given that the NFL is an interstate business, the government would be free to make it so.

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