Report: NFL investigating Ravens for having players in full pads during rookie camp

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The current Collective Bargaining Agreement bars teams from practicing in full pads until training camp, but the Ravens may have violated that rule during their recent rookie minicamp.

Jamison Hensley of ESPN.com reports that the NFL is investigating the Ravens for using full pads during a session at that camp. A team official told Hensley that the Ravens are not aware of any investigation by the league, but said that there was “a five-minute period” during one practice that saw players in full pads during a non-contact punt drill.

Per the report, the Ravens were unaware that the same rules from the rest of the offseason program applied to rookie minicamps and the players were pulled off the field after Ravens tight end and union rep Benjamin Watson clarified that the rules were the same for all practice periods.

Ravens coach John Harbaugh has said in the past that he thinks the current rules governing offseason work are detrimental to both teams and players.

Practice sessions are taped, so it shouldn’t take long to verify what happened if there is an investigation by the league. Past violations of practice rules have seen teams lose organized team activity days. The Ravens hold their first OTAs on May 24.

78 responses to “Report: NFL investigating Ravens for having players in full pads during rookie camp

  1. I guess HC Harbaugh really, really needs to read the rules! Brady is right again!

  2. They were out there for 5 min and the union rep said, “hey, I think this against the rules” and after checking they said, “yep, you’re right”. As long as they stopped right there, which it seems they did, I would chalk this up as no harm, no foul.

  3. “The players were pulled off the field after ex-Ravens tight end and union rep Benjamin Watson clarified that the rules were the same for all practice periods”.

  4. “Per the report, the Ravens were unaware that the same rules from the rest of the offseason program applied to rookie minicamps”

    Not the first time they were unaware of some rules…

  5. We all know by now, that just because something is taped, doesn’t always mean it will be reviewed properly by the league office.

    ESPECIALLY when it has to do something with the Ravens.

  6. Given recent events, I expect the Ravens will be docked a 1st round draft pick and fined 250k.

    ..or not, since they’re in on the Colts/Jets/Ravens axis against the Patriots. Who will somehow get the blame for this.

  7. The arrogance of Harbaugh once again. He doesn’t like the rules so he decides to not follow them until he is called on it.

  8. superbowl49champions says:
    May 16, 2016 5:53 PM
    But if it where someone else..
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    …they would have continued practice in full pads, denied that anyone told them it was against the rules, destroyed the practice tapes, told their employees not to cooperate, and then fought any penalty up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

  9. They were out there for 5 min and the union rep said, “hey, I think this against the rules” and after checking they said, “yep, you’re right”. As long as they stopped right there, which it seems they did, I would chalk this up as no harm, no foul.
    ————————————————-
    So they only cheated a little bit…..so it’s okay. Imagine the outrage if it were the Patriots.

  10. superbowl49champions says:
    May 16, 2016 5:53 PM
    But if it where someone else..
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    stealthjunk says:
    May 16, 2016 6:35 PM
    …they would have continued practice in full pads, denied that anyone told them it was against the rules, destroyed the practice tapes, told their employees not to cooperate, and then fought any penalty up to the U.S. Supreme Court.
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    Or simply paid the guys under the table to keep it quiet and then handed out PEDs like pez

  11. My guess is that they will lose one day of OTAs……..there has to be some consequence for not following the rules due to negligence as well as intent. At least a team fine will result.

  12. Sad that every little equipment hiccup is now a federal case thanks the Goodell and his brain trust. But if some guy pummels his wife or sends HGH to her it has no bearing on the integrity of the game, none.

  13. $1 Million

    A first round draft pick

    A fourth round draft pick.

    That should about do it.

    Much worse violation than a little tick of a psi in a ball.

    Much worse.

  14. …they would have continued practice in full pads, denied that anyone told them it was against the rules, destroyed the practice tapes, told their employees not to cooperate, and then fought any penalty up to the U.S. Supreme Court.
    _______________

    Nope. Big difference between the two.

    The Ravens are actually in fact guilty…

    …whereas the Patriots are actually in fact not.

  15. Wwwhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Nooooooooooo. Harbaugh breaking the rules? Oh wait. You need to know the rules in order to break them. I see now.

  16. orrnumberfour says:
    May 16, 2016 7:22 PM
    Much worse violation than a little tick of a psi in a ball.
    _________________

    A 5 minute practice in Pads in May with teammates, is worse than allegedly altering footballs in the AFC Championship game?

  17. Ignorance is no excuse, right Roger. Sounds like the Ravens need a little comeuppance. 1st Rd pick, $1 million. That sounds about right. Guess the Ravens need to read the rule book and figure it out

    I am loving the excuses and justifications. It’s no big deal, it’s just 5 minutes coming from the same people that think being generally aware of something that they can’t prove happened is worth a death penalty. Lmfao. Love it

  18. These whining ravens and their pathetic thankless coach(Belichick vouched for Harbaugh to Newsome about the Ravens job) again not knowing the rules but nothing will happen they are in the Axis of Evil with the Jets, Colts and 345 Park Avenue

  19. Its likely they could have proved what happened, if Brady would have cooperated with the investigation, instead he was acting as if he had something to hide by destroying his cell phone.

    The Ravens should face penalties, because I believe they are a repeat offender if I recall correctly, and they should be subject to fine, and loss of a draft pick.

  20. Will ESPN interview a 100 former players and ask them if they knew the rules about this? Better get Mark Brunell some tissues….

  21. Rule book problems??

    What coach of what team went out in a press conference and admitted to everyone he knew nothing of balls, pressure, inflation, etc.? I think that press conference was carried live nationally.

    Last I checked those ball requirements are listed where? Come on, you know it Pat’s fans. We’ll wait. Rhymes with Fool Look.

    Wow. That may apply.

  22. Ravens caught cheating again? Maybe they will call a press conference and have Janay Rice take the blame again.

  23. Given what occurred, they should lose one day of OTA’s and I am saying that as a Patriot’s fan.

    Then again, Tom Brady should have paid a $25K fine if he was in fact guilty (I am a homer and do believe he is innocent).

    The problem is the NFL office will throw a dart while blindfolded to decide the penalties. Welcome to Roger’s NFL.

  24. Golden boy Hardballs doesn’t know the rules AGAIN? That’s quite often he doesn’t UNDERSTAND rules! #karma! He is the biggest crybaby coach there is. Cry to Goodell now Noballs

  25. C’mon Roger! Do what you do best. After all, having full pads for 5 minutes is an equipment violation that definitely affects the integrity of the game and is a blatant violation of the CBA.

  26. Everyone around the league knows that the Ravens wear full pads at rookie minicamp.

  27. shaggytoodle says:
    May 16, 2016 8:52 PM

    Its likely they could have proved what happened, if Brady would have cooperated with the investigation, instead he was acting as if he had something to hide by destroying his cell phone.
    ————————

    Brady did cooperate, and provided all of the information from his phone that they wanted.

    The simple fact is that they couldn’t prove that anything happened, because nothing happened.

  28. Cleary Harbaugh was intending his rookies to be more acclimated to full pads, gaining an edge over all other rookies in the NFL this year.

    Every minute in full pads counts.

    Meanwhile New England is in need of yet another new equipment guy because he didn’t think of it first. Oddly, this guy’s nickname was, “clips, straps, and buckles.”

  29. John Harbaugh should just act like Dave Chappelle’s friend Chip and just claim “I didn’t know I couldn’t do that.” any time he can.

  30. In 2010, the league made the Ravens cancel their last week of scheduled OTAs because the team had broken the rules concerning the type and length of practices they were running.

    That’s a pattern of behavior, that’s repeat offender status, that’s a team blatantly flaunting the rules, that’s a te-… Oh, never mind. There’s no way the league is actually going to consistently enforce its rules. Enjoy missing one day of OTAs next month, Baltimore.

  31. Nothing will happen to the Ravens because the Commissioner plays favorites. This will be another good example of how Goodell will ignore the rules when he wants to, because John Harbaugh didn’t know the rules.

  32. Oh my god, they are cheaters. Accused of cheating how dare they. Now everyone will hate them. How will they sleep at night?
    Oh I forgot about the woman beater and the guy that went states evidence against his buddies in a murder case, oh yes and screwing Cleveland fans and packing up and moving in the middle of the night.

  33. The most forgotten part of the “SpyGate scandal” is the fact that Goodell played the videos on a loop for reporters at the press conference when he announced his punishment. The reporters got to watch the footage on a loop prior to Goodell’s stepping to the podium. (I will always remember this, because the NFL Network’s Rich Eisen cracked one of the better jokes in sports TV history. It was, essentially, “This is the first time ever that a journalist is watching a video in a hotel but doesn’t have to pay $9.99 an hour for it.” What a line, Rich.)

    Footage from Patriots videotapes is played for reporters on May 13, 2008. (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

    Perpetuating the idea that the footage never saw the light of day is something that is routinely brought up by obsessed Steelers fans who still feel cheated from 2001 and 2004 (even though the Patriots won in ’01 with a blocked field goal and punt return and ’04 in a 41-27 romp).

  34. Are Patriots really trying to compare this to their own teams cheating scandals? Really?
    A bunch of guys who won’t make the team were wearing football pads is the same as video tapping and deflating footballs and stealing the opposing teams playbooks.,….
    I also love how PATRIOTS fans think the NFL is against them when their owner is best friends with the commissioner and Patriots have a deal with CBS THE ONLY TEAM IN THE NFL that has a deal with a network….Come on…

  35. C’mon Harbaugh you are better than this. If you did it intentionally or didn’t know the rules neither are a good look. You’re a great coach so Ravens fans forgive quickly. Let’s take the OTA hit and move on.

  36. Lol so funny and sad that a backup tight end had to inform his coach that rules apply to Rookie Mini Camps? Seriously?

    Like, you didn’t know that Johnny Boy? Since its the rookies you just do whatever you want. Haha

    Who are we kidding though, the same thing will come from this as the “Manning HGH Investigation”. Nothing. And I put that in quotations because there is no Manning HGH Investigation.

    Nobody else finds it strange that a guy who had multiple neck surgeries and couldn’t throw 10 yards according to his own family MAGICALLY comes out and breaks Brady’s single season TD record? If Brady didn’t literally have everything you could ask for I’m sure he’d be a little miffed. But whatever, I’ve accepted that Manning is a cheatin fraud but that nothing will ever come of it.

  37. GO FOR TWO SPORTS says:
    May 17, 2016 9:40 AM

    Are Patriots really trying to compare this to their own teams cheating scandals? Really?
    ————————–

    Yep, though there is a difference. Deflategate was a fraud, and the Ravens were actually caught, on film, breaking the rules.

  38. A couple of chestnuts from the spygate hysteria can be applied here:

    If these illegal practices didn’t help the Ravens, then why were they doing them?

    How do we know what else Baltimore is doing to break the rules? Is the NFL going to show that practice tape to the public? If not, they’re covering for the Ravens, just like they did with Ray Rice.

  39. In case you don’t understand, for the NFL or NFLPA to investigate it, the issue has to be raised by a player.

    If someone does and they take away an OTA day (which Ravens probably deserve) we will see Patriot fans in an uproar that it is not enough. It is a certainty like death and taxes.

  40. Let it go Patriots fans, you are not the 1st to think you were treated unfairly. Suck it up. Live with it and let it go.

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