Union disputes NFL’s stance on banning taping of drug tests

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After Steelers linebacker James Harrison complained that he wasn’t allowed to tape his recent drug test, the NFL explained that it bans players from taping tests in order to maintain the integrity of the testing process. But the players’ union says it agreed to no such ban.

In response to the story, NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith distributed a memo to the players, which Harrison posted on Instagram. That memo took issue with the NFL’s stance on the matter.

“Despite what the player was told, and what has been reported, our drug policy regarding specimen collection rules does not specifically prohibit the video taping of a drug test,” Smith wrote. “There are rules in place, however, that prohibit a player from carrying any item other than his collection cup into the restroom when providing a specimen. Additionally, some states may have rules limiting a person’s ability to videotape another person without their consent. If drug collectors desire to change the collection rules, they may not do so on their own as happened in this case. They need to obtain approval from both the NFL and the NFLPA before making any such changes. They do not get to make up the rules on their own. We plan on sending a letter to the Drug Free Sport and the NFL this week reminding them of their obligations to bargain over any changes to the Policy.”

So to the long list of things about which the NFL and NFLPA disagree, we can now add whether or not a player is allowed to tape himself taking a drug test.

35 responses to “Union disputes NFL’s stance on banning taping of drug tests

  1. NFLPA is a bunch of clowns. Is this really worth whining about? You think you’re going to get some sort of trade-off with Goodell because your players want to video tape their drug tests? Grow up.

  2. If it is not specifically prohibited by the CBA I fully support Harrison’s right to record himself urinating. Roger however may determine it to conduct detrimental to the game, something that for now appears totally within his purview. Given the warm and fuzzy nature of his relationship with the commi$$ioner Deebo might well be willing to put that to the test

  3. If I was a drug tester I wouldn’t want the person I’m testing taking videos of me. Seems like a violation of privacy when they are trying to do their job. I feel like the rule that prohibits video taping is also in place to protect them as well. This whole thing is ridiculous. Complain enough about not being able to video tape your drug test and maybe they’ll make it less convenient and make you go into a facility rather than do it in the comfort of your own home.

  4. Wow they even lie about the littlest things.

    I don’t like the Saints much and I thought they were just whining about how Bountygate was handled. The last 18 months tell me that I was wrong to think that. They were railroaded too.

  5. Does this guy film his whole life?
    Excuse me, I ordered a plain burger… And I have proof.

  6. I was drug tested 30 times as a narcotics detective.

    I didn’t do drugs and I didn’t worry about losing my pension to the process. If you’re paranoid, draw some blood and get it dated and placed in an independent lab.

    You sign a seal on both bottles they pour your sample into.

    They take a X amount of days worth of samples and mix them together. As in 40 people’s tests go into a vat and it gets tested. If that test is negative all is well. If it is positive then they test each person individually.

    That is a serious money saving technique but it does make you wonder. With the NFL I would think they they don’t do it on the cheap. But then, you never know.

  7. Apparently he is worried about something. If you aren’t taking anything then who cares?

  8. I don’t care what any union thinks about anything. If it were up to the union, there would be no drug testing or any punishment for anything at all.

  9. The union has a ridiculous take on this issue. I’m fairly certain the CBA does not specifically say players are not allowed to attend meetings and practices butt naked either, yet I believe there would be an issue if someone tried to do it.

    Players are being given a break by having the testing officials come to them. Most companies that test their employees randomly have them come in to work if they are off that day. Complain about stupid stuff like this and the easy fix is to notify the player to report to x facility for a random urinalysis. Since it already states no personal items are allowed, the video recording issue is solved and the rest of the same players are inconvenienced because some moron wants to needle the league. Failure to show up/provide a sample would almost certainly be addressed in the CBA as a test failure.

    By complaining about stuff like this, the union lessens the impact of any actual important concerns they try to address. They should have just told Harrison to provide the sample and stop acting like a child

  10. Yet again the NFLPA puts itself in a position to attempt to increase the NFL’s liability. And the media wonders why tickets prices have spiked. Too many lawsuits from the NFLPA and players.
    IMO players want to video themselves getting tested so that they can show the NFLPA, their agent(s), and buddies, how to beat the NFL’s drug test.

    Military members get drug tested and you don’t hear them crying about it.

  11. It’s always the rich crying about everything. Get over it! It’s part of your job. Lots of jobs do random urine tests and you don’t see their employees crying because they can’t tape it. Why tape it anyways no one wants to see that. Just be greaful they come to your house to test you. We all have to wait in line at the clinic or doctors office to take a test. Come back down to the real world like the majority of us and you will see how stupid you look about crying over these rich people problems.

  12. The rules say you can’t take anything in with you but the cup, so you can’t take a phone or camera to video yourself. I’m sure the testers are not allowed (nor would they want) to hold the camera for you. So, it seems to boil down to whether or not the state you’re in allows someone else to video your tallywhacker while you pee in the cup. It would be a truly good friend who would do that. A weird one, but a good one.

  13. Tapes/videos can be edited. Like government required drug tests, just have an eyewitness. Dude is afraid of something. Which might explain his longevity.

  14. What does he gain from it?

    Does he have some IG filter which shows his urine is clean or something ridiculous?

    What do you get from recording yourself peeing in a cup with someone else watching?…. I mean unless that is your jam. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

  15. Packernet says:
    May 21, 2016 5:54 PM
    Apparently he is worried about something. If you aren’t taking anything then who cares?
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    As another poster already noted, he and the most crooked and inept Ginger of all time are not on the greatest of terms.

    We also just saw (and continue to see somehow) how some jealous billionaires and said Ginger have successfully framed (in the court of public opinion forever) and for the moment, in reality/civil court an innocent man.

    And even if he WERE guilty of said equipment violation, it was supposed to be about a 25k fine, that turned into draft picks and millions in fines (to an organization their own report specifically stated was not involved in any way and had no knowledge of) and a FOUR game suspension to a guy they claim “more probable than not may have been generally aware of something”

    I wouldn’t take any chances with those NFL clowns either. If they will frame/overpunish a guy who had a sterling reputation and no ill will toward the league office, why the heck wouldn’t they frame a guy known as a borderline dirty player, obnoxious, and who frequently has been at odds publicly with the league office.

    PS: I love Harrison, but that is his reputation.

  16. I work in a field where drug testing is regular and our drug tests are conducted by a reputable local clinic – one that’s not under control by the NFL front office, which has a far worse reputation. Absolutely I would want to record the process. I don’t even play and I don’t trust them.

  17. Install a built in security system in bathroom or just set up a dash camera

    I don’t trust the NFL on anything anymore and neither should the players

  18. broncomath101 says:
    May 21, 2016 5:19 PM
    If I was a drug tester I wouldn’t want the person I’m testing taking videos of me. Seems like a violation of privacy when they are trying to do their job. I feel like the rule that prohibits video taping is also in place to protect them as well. This whole thing is ridiculous. Complain enough about not being able to video tape your drug test and maybe they’ll make it less convenient and make you go into a facility rather than do it in the comfort of your own Home.

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    You are missing the point. There is no rule in place. The collector made it up and the NFL for some reason said the rule existed. The NFLPA is saying there is no rule in the CBA.

  19. james harisson should be disgusted with himself. normaly im on james’s side, like when he made sure his son got into heaven and got into a small dustup with his wife. but not in this case. hes clearly trying to brag and show every one how big his man part is and frankly thats just unecesary and vulger. shame on u james!!!

  20. inFan68 says:
    May 21, 2016 6:01 PM
    The union has a ridiculous take on this issue. I’m fairly certain the CBA does not specifically say players are not allowed to attend meetings and practices butt naked either, yet I believe there would be an issue if someone tried to do it.

    Players are being given a break by having the testing officials come to them. Most companies that test their employees randomly have them come in to work if they are off that day. Complain about stupid stuff like this and the easy fix is to notify the player to report to x facility for a random urinalysis. Since it already states no personal items are allowed, the video recording issue is solved and the rest of the same players are inconvenienced because some moron wants to needle the league. Failure to show up/provide a sample would almost certainly be addressed in the CBA as a test failure.

    By complaining about stuff like this, the union lessens the impact of any actual important concerns they try to address. They should have just told Harrison to provide the sample and stop acting like a child

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    Alternative View…..

    >The league has shown itself to be incompetent, self serving and corrupt when administering punishment: Recent Examples: Saints/RayRice/Deflategate/Concussions/etc… all under Goodell

    >Players have no rights to due-process, Goodell can and does preside over appeals of his own decisions.

    >Players do not have the right to see the evidence against them – ex. Wells report details were never released…Why?
    Brady’s Appeal transcripts were not released either – until Judge Berman forced them to be released. It was immediately clear Goodell lied about Brady’s testimony and – recall – Bradys testimony was whole basis of Goodell’s decision not to reverse his earlier ruling

    Players should be paranoid.
    Player should take extra steps to protect themselves

    They dont know who will be next……

  21. After the Deflategate lies, misinformation, and fabrications, how can anyone trust the League? There’s no one left on Earth that be lives NE tampered with their footballs. The simple fact that the Colts’ balls were also illegally low is all the proof rational people need.

    The League is run by former NY Jets. Just look at how that franchise has been run since Namath! THESE GOONS COULDNT RUN THE JETS! Now they’re running the entire league! Look at how they target certain teams, but let other teams (Jets, Broncos, Ravens) slide.

  22. The NFL might like to remind the NFLPA in their response that the routine and specific process for taking the samples is set and actually adding the video taping of the process is new and would require concurrence from both parties.

    Even if he was somehow able to video the process, if tested positive he wouldn’t be able to rely on the video to show anything to correct that finding? I am not sure what he intends to use the video for, but gaining information on the process for later use in developing strategy and beating the process seems the only logical reason.

    Once again, the NFLPA has taken on a fight that makes them look bad and one that they just can’t win. They should have come out and said their member was concerned with the process and they will do all they can to ensure he is tested and treated properly. End of story…..

  23. FinFan68 says:
    May 21, 2016 6:01 PM

    The union has a ridiculous take on this issue. I’m fairly certain the CBA does not specifically say players are not allowed to attend meetings and practices butt naked either, yet I believe there would be an issue if someone tried to do it.
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    As we learned from the decisions of the two Federal judges that Goodell bribed, if it isn’t in the CBA, then it is okay.

    They were the bozos that claimed that if a player was expecting a fair appeal hearing, it should have been in the CBA.

    That is the NFL as it now exists under Roger Goodell.

  24. “Smith wrote. “There are rules in place, however, that prohibit a player from carrying any item other than his collection cup into the restroom when providing a specimen”
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    So, the admission is made by the NFLPA that carrying a camera or cell phone into the test room is prohibited. Yet, in the same breath, they claim that the NFL is exceeding it’s authority by prohibiting filming? Shows how stupid Smith is, doesn’t it?

  25. Nflpa doesn’t trust NFL and deservedly so. They’ve already tried to steal 120 million from players, lied in federal court twice and federal judges doty and Johnson thing roger wouldn’t know what the cba is if it hit him on his head.

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