Sean Payton: Rob Ryan saying it wasn’t his defense is “silly”

AP

In a new interview, former Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan hinted that he wasn’t allowed to coach the defense the way he wanted to because head coach Sean Payton took some authority away from him. Payton says that isn’t so.

Payton said this morning on PFT Live that the defense in New Orleans — which set an NFL record for the most touchdown passes allowed in a season — was Rob Ryan’s defense.

“The idea that it wasn’t his defense, or he wasn’t in charge of it, is silly,” Payton said.

Payton said the Saints’ defense repeatedly struggled with fundamentals like getting the right calls and the right players on the field.

“When you’re struggling as bad as we’re struggling for two years, and some of the same problems keep coming up — you know, 10 guys on the field — those are things that just are hard to live with,” Payton said.

Whoever you believe, there’s no doubt that Ryan and Payton didn’t see eye to eye. Now Ryan works in Buffalo for the one coach he’s sure he can see eye to eye with, his brother Rex.

82 responses to “Sean Payton: Rob Ryan saying it wasn’t his defense is “silly”

  1. Yeah Rob, you did a ‘damn good job’ with the 32nd ranked defense, last place finish lol. Blame it all on Byrd but you couldn’t even get 11 players lined up correctly on a consistent basis…. a lot of times it was 10 players SMDH

  2. “struggled with fundamentals”? That’s a Rex specialty! Rob will fit right in…

  3. The Rex and Rob show in Buffalo is going to be great. Hysterical quotes and comments after every loss. The usual bravado leading up to each loss. They should do all the post game press conferences together.

  4. im pretty sure every one know who wins a credibility check here, the worse thing possible a position like a coach to do, is not take responsibility, if you cant see your own faults its impossible to improve.. Rob is incapable of doing so at this point and that is why the only person that would hire him is his own brother

  5. Here’s another great reason why Buffalo will continue to miss the playoffs. If you invite the circus to town, you have to deal with the clowns and elephant droppings.

  6. It wouldn’t surprise me if Payton took authority away from him. Rob Ryan couldn’t even get the correct personnel on the field!

    I can’t even count how many times we had to waste a timeout because of too many/few men on the field or not having the correct alignment. Payton was always screaming at him on the sidelines.

    Good Riddance!!!

  7. The Bills just can’t help themselves. Not happy with one big mouth who can’t coach, they hired his brother, who stinks even worse than Rex does.

    The Bills will be an also-ran for many years to come with these two blowhards in charge.

  8. Considering Ryan’s history of only having a defense rank in the top 15 twice in his career as a coordinator….. i’ll go with payton.

  9. Rob has been an awful Coordinator since his days in Oakland back in the early 2000’s. He has done terrible in all of his stops including the Browns, Cowboys and Saints. I can’t seem to figure out how he keeps getting jobs. His last name has carried him long enough. Now it’s time for him and his brother to ride off in the sunset together…

  10. That pitiful 2014 defense was Ryan’s fault, it turned into Payton’s fault when he brought Ryan back for another year.

  11. “New Orleans — which set an NFL record for the most touchdown passes allowed in a season — was Rob Ryan’s defense.”
    And then he moves to the division with Tom Brady. This will not end well for Buffalo.

  12. Rob Ryan was a joke as defensive coordinator. On any given night, you could find him atop a barstool in any one of a hundred haunts in New Orleans. He isn’t much of a coach…but he is a hell of a drunk.

  13. Payton: “You see, Rob. We want our players to injure their players. It is called a bounty for a reason.”
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    Translation: My team got beat many times by Saints in last 10 years WHAAAAAA

  14. sb44champs says:
    May 27, 2016 10:03 AM
    Payton: “You see, Rob. We want our players to injure their players. It is called a bounty for a reason.”
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    Translation: My team got beat many times by Saints in last 10 years WHAAAAAA
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    You sound almost as bad as the Asterisks fans

  15. If there’s any truth to the old saying ‘Sometimes you get the best light from a burning bridge’ then Rob needs shades right about now. He didn’t just burn his bridge with Payton, taking out that one took out all of them. If only he could be that efficient on a sideline.

  16. Here’s the problem… Rob Ryan looks like a bad A** so people think his defense will be too but in reality his defense is usually terrible. Ryan also coached Raiders defense and you saw the same thing with Saints. Ryan sending players on the field when they already have too many out there. Ryan also never blitzes…He has a soft style of defense.
    Meanwhile Rex Ryan is great at defense. He’s not a great head coach, he does not understand offense at all.. He has this belief you don’t need a great QB or offense and you can win… It’s VERY rare in this time that DEFENSE does EVERYTHING and win. Now we did see Broncos do that but they also had Manning who is smart. Plus let’s be honest here, that Broncos team was one of the weakest teams ever to win a superbowl. It was a complete fluke they beat the Patriots in the playoffs. Then they ran into Cam Newton who simply choked in the big game..

  17. I’ve been watching “Football Life” episodes about the ’93 Houston team & Randall Cunningham which features Buddy Ryan. He was a turd IMO & so are his sons. Their defense isn’t the problem, it’s always someone else’s problem

  18. He had similar outbursts when he was fired from jobs in Cleveland, Dallas, and now New Orleans. Translation: He’s not a good defensive coordinator….. period.

  19. Who was responsible for the New Orleans defense when they were putting price tags on opponents heads? I think opponents should go for Sean Payton’s knees on all plays to the New Orleans sideline. For life.

  20. Why all the shade at Sean Payton. He is a top tier NFL head coach. I wish we had him in Philly. And secretly, many of you feel the same way about your team.

  21. Worst defense in the NFL (see how they deteriorated the past three years) and Rob Ryan says: I did a damn good job with Saints and got fired for it. Simply epic…

  22. Who was responsible for the New Orleans defense when they were putting price tags on opponents heads? I think opponents should go for Sean Payton’s knees on all plays to the New Orleans sideline. For life.
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    Not one player injured in the 3 year ‘bounty’ period… Get out the basement for once

  23. As a Bills fan, I wish Whaley and the Ryan boys would just shut up…

    Losing is embarrassing enough without all of the other sideshows going on…

    Cue “Send in the Clowns…”

  24. Yes, yes, yes…
    Now Payton should be making the best decision for his team, work with the GM, cut the umbilical cord and let Bree’s go so a team can be built with players… Way to much money to spend on another .500 ish year!!
    AGAIN, CUT THE UNBILICAL CORD AND TRY TO COACH YOURSELF AND MOT RIDE SOMEONE BREES COAT TAIL FROM THE PAST!!!

  25. Hey, laugh at Rob if you will, but the Ryans will stop at nothing to further the dynasty they helped establish in Foxboro…

  26. Rob hasn’t done anything notable aside putting one good defense together in 2013. If he wasn’t a Ryan nobody would care about him.

  27. It’s fitting that the brothers are together….for their “last stand.” Besides being twins, they have many other attributes in common:
    1 Both are fat.
    2 Both love to brag about what they’re going to do.
    3 Both fail to ever do what they say they’re going to do.
    4 Both waste no time in blaming others for their failures.
    5 Both have been able to fool owners/GM’s forever.
    6 Both have won multiple SB’s……on paper.

  28. Yeah Rob, you did a ‘damn good job’ with the 32nd ranked defense, last place finish lol. Blame it all on Byrd but you couldn’t even get 11 players lined up correctly on a consistent basis…. a lot of times it was 10 players SMDH

    this is the NFL… shouldn’t guys know when they need to get out on field?
    and there was rumors before he came to Buffalo, that Ryan’s D was too complicated for the young players on NO….and SP in fact did take creative control over the D to simplify it, but the problem is that the players werent good enough for the most part to effectively run a baseline D. They needed to run deception but werent football smart enough to effectively run his D>

    People cant be shocked at this other than it was the name Ryan. Other than when Williams was his D cord. SP has not had great D as they always focused on the high powered Offense.
    I am not saying Ryan doesnt deserve some blame, but SP runs that team and make no mistake, he has as much input in that D as he does the O.
    But regardless, at what point do coaches not take responsibility because a player cant be out on the field when he is supposed to?

  29. Hey, laugh at Rob if you will, but the Ryans will stop at nothing to further the dynasty they helped establish in Foxboro…

    by dynasty, do you mean beating them more than any other coach in the league? because he has….so your comment makes no sense other than a typical NE troll…..
    must be tough to be a fan from a city living in the shadows of NYC…. little brother you will always be…

  30. He has sucked everywhere he has been. Might have a initial spike in terms of effectiveness, but then teams figure him out. No in game adjustments at all.

    Suck for my Raiders and has sucked everywhere else. Dallas fired you, Saints fired you and now you say you were just grabbing a paycheck?

    You suck.

  31. It had nothing to do with the Saints giving 1/3 of their money to Drew Brees and not having funds to add talent to their defense.

    Don’t get me wrong, there is fault on the defense AND the personnel.

  32. One coach has a Super Bowl championship and the other has been run out of town at every team he’s coached for.

  33. Cowboys D had the same issues when he was in Dallas. 12 men on the field guys running on late, sometimes 10, not knowing what the play call was or what spot to be in….I like his style but at the end of it he’s just not a good teacher of defense.

  34. LOL I remember when Dallas fans said that Rob was the great defensive coordinator the league had seen in the last 20 years. Idiots.

  35. I definitely don’t miss him as a Dallas fan. I remember one play there was 13 yes THIRTEEN players on the field. How that happens at the professional level is astounding to me. Doubt he will do much in Buffalo since his brother already has his hands on the defense.

  36. Wonder if the Pegulas cringe every time the Ryans open their mouths, the way most of us Bills fans do? It’s a shame a half-way decent roster will be wasted again this year. You wouldn’t need a Belichick or Parcells to get to 10 wins with this talent. A competent coach would do.

  37. phootballphorever says:
    May 27, 2016 2:01 PM
    LOL I remember when Dallas fans said that Rob was the great defensive coordinator the league had seen in the last 20 years. Idiots.
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    yeah right, and I remember when you said your team would win the super bowl…

  38. Yep, Payton brought him in with the intention of NOT letting him run the defense. Gotcha. Everyone’s fault, but Rob’s, huh??

  39. I can’t wait for the season to start. It will be too fun to watch the absurdity of the Ryans thumping their chests in success or coming up with excuses if they fail.

  40. I believe Ryan. Of course the head coach has final say of everything. But most importantly, the GM has control of the roster. With a better roster, both Payton and Ryan are winning super bowls and getting along just fine.

  41. Scapegoat city. Population 2.
    They’re both accountable and responsible. Drew Breed isn’t Iron Man anymore, yet he has little-known talent around him. No significant running game. Right end not what it was. Yeah the defense sucked but what coach doesn’t have some degree of day about what’s being fielded? That’s what Head Coaches do. If the defense isn’t being taught fundamentals during practice on the same field as the head coach who is responsible?

  42. While Rob Ryan has never been suspended for a year and fined a kings ransom for deliberately trying to cripple players, etc. , I’ll have to take his side here. Payton is a megalomaniacial creep.

  43. Oh…Let the Buffoonery begin…I can’t wait for this seasons “Ryan Brothers Farewell Tour” to kick off….lol

    oh good grief… a phins fan talking smack about side show circus events? You’re owner is really the owners very own side show main event. you’re team has and had enough issues to keep yourself preoccupied.

  44. Yep, Payton brought him in with the intention of NOT letting him run the defense. Gotcha. Everyone’s fault, but Rob’s, huh??

    actually it was partially his fault. He was given players to stupid to understand his game plans and when SP made him cut back on scheming, he was saddled with players unable to succeed without the trickery. Its really not hard to figure out.

  45. tooz72 says:
    May 27, 2016 9:45 AM
    Rob Ryan is MAYBE the third best defensive coordinator in his family, MAYBE

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    That’s not much of an insult. Whatever you think about Rex as a HC, he was a heck of a D-Coordinator. Their father (Buddy) was one of the best of all time.

    That’s like saying Dennis Hull (over 300 goals) was no good because he was the 3rd best hockey player in his family

  46. Remember when saints fans were bragging about RR after one season? What happened?

  47. The Steve Spagnuolo led 2012 Saints defense allowed the most yards in the history of the league. The Rob Ryan led 2013 Saints defense allowed the 4th fewest points per game and was 2nd best against the pass.

    NO has been trying to fix it’s poor defense since the ’09 Superbowl year. Loomis and Payton got so desperate, they traded away Jimmy Graham to try and fix it. I don’t think it takes any stretch of the imagination to think that after watching the Seahawks win a championship with defense, Sean Payton would try to emulate that success, bringing in Brandon Browner and asking Ryan to emulate the Seahawks simple, but well executed defensive scheme.

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