Reported Fitzpatrick offer pales in comparison to most starting QBs

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When the Jets leaked word that they’re offering free agent quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick a contract that would pay him $12 million this year, the clear implication was that it’s a good offer. The reality is that, for a starting quarterback in today’s NFL, it’s not a good offer.

According to the salary database Spotrac, there are 16 quarterbacks in the NFL who currently have a contract that pays an average of $18 million a year or more. So half of the league’s starters are making at least 50 percent more than the Jets are offering Fitzpatrick.

Another six quarterbacks are making more than $12 million but less than $18 million. Which means Fitzpatrick, if he took a contract paying $12 million a year, would be paid less than 22 NFL quarterbacks. And among the starters making less than Fitzpatrick are several who are still on their rookie contracts but would surely make more on the open market, including Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Andrew Luck and Blake Bortles. This year’s first two picks, Jared Goff and Carson Wentz, are also in the group of quarterbacks who will make less than $12 million a year only because of the rookie salary structure, not because the market has decided that they’re actually worth less than $12 million a year.

Also bear in mind that the Jets specifically leaked only what they were offering to pay Fitzpatrick this year, not what they’re offering to pay him in future years of a multi-year contract. That suggests that the deal the Jets are offering Fitzpatrick is actually worse than $12 million a year.

Bottom line, despite some reporters portraying the Jets’ offer as “more in line with the marketplace,” the reality is that the Jets are not offering Fitzpatrick the kind of money that you’d expect a quarterback who threw for 3,905 yards, 31 touchdowns and 15 interceptions while leading his team to a 10-6 record to make.

Unfortunately for Fitzpatrick, he doesn’t have a lot of leverage. The offseason game of quarterback musical chairs is over, and he’s the only one standing, while the Jets are the only team with a seat open. He’s probably going to end up taking less money than his 2015 performance says he’s worth. But no one should portray the Jets’ offer as a good deal. By NFL starting quarterback standards, it’s not.

135 responses to “Reported Fitzpatrick offer pales in comparison to most starting QBs

  1. Cheap, crappy organization has no clue what it’s doing. If it wants to win, it will sign fitz. If not, go with geno Smith. What could go wrong?

  2. He had one good year. Let’s not act like 31 TD’s is the norm for Fitzpatrick. He’s clearly not their future, yet they’re willing to pay him $12 million for the upcoming season. Seems like a very reasonable deal for both sides, especially for a guy who has 0 leverage.

  3. I believe in an earlier post I stated the exact same thing. The average yearly salary for a starting QB who is not still playing under their rookie contract is over $17 million per year. $12 million per year represents a contract that is almost 40% less than that average. And like PFT states since we don’t the total value and years of the contract the Jets are offering it may be the contract is worth less than $12 million per year.

  4. Not a good deal? Are you familiar with the concepts of supply and demand? Pretty much the first thing you cover in macroeconomics. Basically, as they apply in this case, if no one wants to pay you a lot of money, you are not worth a lot of money.

    How about greater than/less than? Not even economics. Like second grade math. Is $12,000,000 greater than or less than zero?

    Long story short, I disagree with your article.

  5. Never mind the analysis of the QB market, the actual market tells us that nobody is offering the Amish Rifle more than the Jets, therefore the market has spoken.

  6. I usually think The Jets are crazy, but I actually see where they’re coming from on this one. How can you trust Fitz to throw 30+ TDs. He had a great year and maybe this guy goes Rich Gannon all of a sudden, but most journeymen QBs stay journeymen.

  7. If Fitzpatrick doesn’t want $1million/month, screw him. Tell him to use his Harvard degree and his college major and get work in his field.

  8. So, why doesn’t he sign with that other team that offered him more money? What? No other team offered him more money? Looks to me like 12 mil is his market value. If they Offered him 40 million for one year, should he turn it down? That’s not what other starting QBs are making.

  9. The problem for the Jets is that Fitz seems to have the leverage. He seems fine to not play before his market value. (damn smart Harvard kids) In other words, he doesn’t need to play next year… the Jets need a QB next year.

  10. seems like a fair number to me. meet in the middle. he’s not a ‘franchise’ guy. lets be honest. the guy is old. and with the exception of last year, he’s thrown very close to the same amount of INT’s as TD’s in his career.

  11. I don’t think anyone is reasonably buying that the Jets can pick & choose which of Christian Hackenberg’s college tape they like, and he’ll just turn into that QB and they don’t need Fitzpatrick. If that were true Tahj Boyd, Tyler Bray, and… oh I dunno… Geno Smith, etc etc would all be starting quarterbacks in the NFL right now.

    Fitz-pay-the-man

  12. Who cares if the Jets offer is perceived as a good one? As is stated on this site repeatedly, contracts have less to do with how good a player is than how much leverage the player has. Nobody has ever argued that Joe Flacco is the best quarterback in the game. Neither Flacco nor his agent made that statement when he hit free agency after winning a Super Bowl, but he still got a contract placing him at the very top (twice, after his recent extension).

    So, if this site will continually advocate that players use every bit of leverage they have to get every dime they can, then it should also acknowledge when a player simply is out of options and must either take what’s on the table or take nothing at all to sit at home.

  13. Tell the Jet’s to pound sand, stay in game shape, and watch them suck horribly as a fan with Geno under center, and when the inevitable catastrophic injury happens to a starter, suddenly Fitz has a FAIR offer on the table.

  14. The Jets are hilarious. They can’t stand a moderate amount of success. Every chance to sabotage themselves they take it. I thought it was general mismanagement now looks more like real stupidity. Regardless it does make me smile.

  15. “Reported Fitzpatrick offer pales in comparison to most starting QBs”

    Well that makes sense, because Ryan Fitzpatrick also pales in comparison to most starting QBs

  16. Give him a base of $12 million. If he exceeds last years performance, give him the money other QB’s are making. If he doesn’t exceed last year, deduct a certain per centage based on other QB performance.

  17. Teams his agent should call:
    Bills
    Browns
    Rams
    49ers
    Broncos

  18. He ranked 24th in QB rating last year, so $12 million sounds about right relative to others. He must just be hoping that the Jets are as idiotic as the Texans, who signed the 25th rated QB to a $72 million contract.

    Besides, you’re only worth what someone is willing to pay you. Given no one else is willing to pay him anything, the Jets’ offer is extremely generous.

  19. Fitz is one torn Achilles tendon from a starting job with another team. Jets need to step up or they wasted getting Forte, Marshall and Decker.

  20. Jets won 10 games last year. They have a first year coach and first year GM who know what they are doing. For the first time in a long time.

    Looks like the haters don’t like it. Don’t worry. The Browns and lions will always suck. Go hate on them.

  21. Fitz was really good for us last year but what guarantee is there that he can be even close to that this year. His history says NO. If the Jets are so stupid and cheap I guess the other the other teams that needed QB’s were just as dumb. A 3yr contract to a guy his age, c’mon. If memory serves me didn’t he cash in a big contract fairly recently only to be cut. Don’t get me wrong I would love to see him back to play and to mentor the young guys but not at the risk in putting us in cap jeopardy again. I also know Geno is not the answer.

  22. The Jets are the Venezuela of the league. The only time they are make the news, it’s bad.

  23. When did $12 million stop being a lot of money? This guy is mediocre and in his thirties. Take the contract and get on with it.

  24. The people who are saying “30+ TD isn’t the norm for Fitz how can you pay him more than 12million a year” think about it…Sam Bradford got 18million a year…has Sam Bradford thrown or is he expected to throw 30TD per year? No!!! Average market value for a QB is waaaaay above this lousy 12million a year so I don’t blame Fitz for holding out.

  25. What has he done with 7 teams, to deserve anymore than that?
    He is what he is, a journeyman QB.

  26. jimjets says:
    May 28, 2016 9:00 AM

    Looks like the haters don’t like it. Don’t worry. The Browns and lions will always suck. Go hate on them.
    ………………….
    For being worried about “haters” (what are you 15?) Kind of ironic how you instantly go into hating. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

  27. What has happened here is that the teams have actually learned a lesson from the Josh McCown signing in Tampa.
    Maybe that is why Branson Marshall is running his big mouth since he played with McCown in Chicago and still does not get it.

    One decent year from a journeyman

  28. Yeah, but all the other startings qbs have a market. Fitzpatrick dont. Simple as that. Just sign the deal.

  29. The Jets know that he’s not a championship caliber quarterback, and they know if they give him a big contract and he has a bad season then everyone who is bashing them for not paying him will bash them for overpaying. Anything besides what they’re doing now is a lose-lose situation.

  30. Love the guy, the story and the myth of Fitz – and I love him playing for the Jets because just as he did with the Bills he always manages to panic and screw up at the end of tight games!
    He is a great story, he is a very capable emergency qb, but he won’t take the Jets to a championship.
    Then again, besides Fitz not having many options, the Jets also don’t have many qb options to replace him.
    I do think Fitzs would be best off sitting back and waiting for the first team that loses their qb for the year and is desperate.

  31. Jets are foolish. Instead of trying to get their QB to pay for less than he’s worth, they should be trying to move Wilkerson to free up the cap room. Fitzpatrick is more important to the team than Wilkerson yet they want him to play for less than Mo. Not smart.

  32. Take the $15M offer the Vikings have on the table for you.

    Actually, on second thought don’t. We want Bridgewater behind center.

    The rest of the NFCN.

  33. the arrogant and classless jets, like the broncos, think there is no cap.

    the only difference is, the jets appear to be avoiding cheating the cap.

  34. “Reported Fitzpatrick offer pales in comparison to most starting QBs”

    That’s because he pales in play to most starting QBs. He’s still available for a reason. It doesn’t matter Jets aren’t going anywhere with or without that average QB.

  35. Newsflash: He’s Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he sucks. His whole career has sucked.

    The fact that anyone would offer him $12 mil, and the fact that he would be stupid enough to turn it down, just shows that its impossible to determine which side is more stupid, the Jests, or Fitzpatrick.

    Thats gold, Jerry! GOLD!

  36. So much drama around such a very average player. But, it’s NY and the dead zone of football season so I guess they have to drum up a buzz somehow.

  37. Fitz has plenty of leverage. All he has to do is refuse to sign with the Jet and wait till the inevitable injuries around the league in the first few games.

    He will be the best QB available at that point and able to get a contract more in line with what he wants.

  38. The Brock something something deal in Houston just messes with my brain. I don’t have a handle on what QBs are worth anymore because mediocre play with an all world defense will make you helicopter rich. I hope things work out for the kid in Houston, and nobody blames him for taking the money, but Fitz was better than Brock last year.

  39. You would think that Woody Johnson would know if finger to about having a Band-Aid for the quarterback position. He does own Johnson and Johnson.

    Then again, he is the biggest problem for why the Jets will never go to a Super Bowl. He is a short-term fix, teaser guy that prematurely believes in his team and thinks they are better than they actually are after every small modicum of success.

  40. I remember when Matt Flynn, of all people, turned one good performance in a meaningless game into a monster contract with a new team. It’s all about being in the right place at the right time. But I wouldn’t feel sorry for Fitzpatrick. I’m sure that he and the Jets will come to some kind of compromise….unless the Jets really want to go with Geno Smith as their starting QB.

  41. This is so penny-wise and pound foolish. You’re in NY and you have been crap since forever. First decent starting QB since Vinny and you want to count pennies.

    You just took a Penn State QB in the 2nd round and took Geno in the 2nd too. YOU NEED SOME STABILITY and Fitzpatrick offers that for the Jets.

    But go ahead and toss Geno out there and they will rebuke the Billionaire owner for trying to save a few million.

  42. The value of anything is what someone is willing to pay. Right now, the Jets are willing to pay $12 mil and no one else is willing to even match that. Maybe, a QB will be injured early in the season and someone will be willing to pay more, but not for more than one season. But then again, maybe a QB will be cut for cap room or just to open a roster spot and the Jets will be able to get one as good or almost as good for less. 12 million is a lot of money. More money than 25 average slobs together will make in a lifetime. Fitz should call the Jets out and offer to play for one year at 12 mil. Then, if he is as good as he apparently thinks he is, at the end of the year he will be sitting in the Catbird Seat.

  43. Roger Goodell and Mike Kensil cannot be happy that their starting QB has been balking at accepting their Jets contract offer.

    What will Goodell and Kensil do if the stalemate continues?

  44. He is the definition of a journeyman. Let’s not pretend like last year’s production was the norm for him.

    Has this guy even been to a playoff game? Let alone win one.

  45. In an auction, the true value of an object is the second highest bid because at that point there are still two bidders who both want the item. That is the definition of the market. There is no market if there is only one bidder.

    Calculating QB averages does nothing to value the market; the situation at hand dictates the value offer. It sucks for Fitz, but his mistake was letting the market evaporate.

  46. Sports reporters, like many fans, often get caught up in stats without looking at the big picture. He had some ok numbers last year, sure, but overall there’s nothing in his career to show that he’ll consistently put up those sorts of numbers from here on. Plus there’s the fact that he hasn’t gotten past the end-of-game choking problem that’s plagued his career.

    $12 million isn’t a great offer but as others have said, he’s not a great quarterback. It may be more important to the Jets to find out what they have in Geno (can he develop) and Hackenberg (was he a good pick) as soon as possible than to have a winning season this year.

  47. I hear fast food is paying $15 an hour up that way so maybe Ryan should consider a career change ?

  48. “Fitz has plenty of leverage. All he has to do is refuse to sign with the Jet and wait till the inevitable injuries around the league in the first few games.”

    That’s leverage enough to get him better than $12 million for the season? After it’s already started (i.e., not sixteen full games of pay) and every team already has its salary structure set? The only team that would consider pulling the trigger on such a deal is a contender, and those don’t leave $15 million in cap space open during a season. (That’s partly why they’re contenders in the first place, because they’re looking to replace an injured quarterback that makes them a contender, and those – as Fitz knows – ain’t cheap.)

  49. steves11 says:
    May 28, 2016 9:57 AM

    I remember when Matt Flynn, of all people, turned one good performance in a meaningless game into a monster contract with a new team.
    ——————————————-

    Fitzpatrick’s problem is that he turned a terrible performance in an important game into no contract and no suitors.

  50. you forgot Derek Carr being on his rookie contract who might be better than anyone you mentioned. got to love the Raider Hate! its real

  51. Whats the big deal if he only gets 12 million a year for playing a game,the more they make the more they pay in taxes so that extra six million wont end up in the bank anyway.maybe he should try really working for a living to see what its like.

  52. Fitz will happily not play this season and the Jets will finish 4-12 with Geno or some other trash QB at the helm. Idiots.

  53. mjik1988 says:
    May 28, 2016 8:03 AM
    He had one good year. Let’s not act like 31 TD’s is the norm for Fitzpatrick. He’s clearly not their future, yet they’re willing to pay him $12 million for the upcoming season. Seems like a very reasonable deal for both sides, especially for a guy who has 0 leverage.

    —–

    Do you think he has 0 leverage? How much worse will the Jets be without him? I’m guessing below 8-8, especially if a couple of their other top offensive players start to mail it in (say the ones holding out of OTAs right now) because they didn’t get the deal done for Fitz. He has as much leverage as he is willing to go in either getting a deal that he wants or not playing this year.

    We don’t know how much he wants to play this year, so don’t know where he’ll tip, but he most certainly has leverage.

  54. What is wrong with the Jets? They are the definition of average and nobody cares. At least the Browns try, laughably, but they try.

  55. So because other teams are stupid, the Jets should be? It’s more than I would give him. I would have offered him $7 mil with $10 mil as the absolute ceiling and called it a wrap after that if he didn’t want to take it. It’s how they got their cap out of wack by overpaying mediocre Sanchez while Tannenbaum was still there.

  56. “What is wrong with the Jets? They are the definition of average and nobody cares. At least the Browns try, laughably, but they try.”

    So, if I understand you correctly, the Jets will move beyond average by giving an average quarterback a huge contract and tie up a big chunk of salary cap for the next few years.

    Perhaps that’s why you aren’t a GM.

  57. TheDPR says:
    May 28, 2016 10:08 AM
    Sports reporters, like many fans, often get caught up in stats without looking at the big picture. He had some ok numbers last year, sure, but overall there’s nothing in his career to show that he’ll consistently put up those sorts of numbers from here on. Plus there’s the fact that he hasn’t gotten past the end-of-game choking problem that’s plagued his career.

    $12 million isn’t a great offer but as others have said, he’s not a great quarterback. It may be more important to the Jets to find out what they have in Geno (can he develop) and Hackenberg (was he a good pick) as soon as possible than to have a winning season this year.
    ———-

    Obviously you don’t understand. The Jets want him to be their starting QB. The going yearly rate for a starting QB not on his rookie deal is over $17 million. Coupled with the year he just had it would be insane to accept an offer that likely pays him around $8-10 million per season….

    AND you’re right that Fitz is not a great QB. Heck you may be able to argue he’said not a good QB. Maybe he’s just an average QB. Well if that’s the case then the market says an average salary for a QB is $17 million.

    Let’stand say Fitz is below average. Well then a below average starting QB should look to sign for $14-16 million per year. The contract being offered Fitz is likely $8-10 million per season and that’s high end back up money or the type of contract in which you sign a back up who you’re giving a chance to compete to be a starter. Fitz already proved he should be the starter with last season’s play.

  58. This is what happens when you sign a corner who is past his prime to get back at the patriots because you can’t beat them on the football field.

  59. That’s because he’s not as good as the top 30% of quarterbacks. Don’t just go by stats, look at overall body of production. He’s older and he doesn’t have the nickname Picks-Patrick for nothing. He’s a great guy, but every year he starts off looking decent and then he breaks your heart. The first half of the season builds everyone’s expectations and then he totally collapses at the end of the season. It’s the same old story. He’s a 11-12MM a year guy. I like him and wish he would’ve stayed in Houston as a backup, but he is what he is.

  60. jimjets says:
    May 28, 2016 9:00 AM

    Jets won 10 games last year. They have a first year coach and first year GM who know what they are doing. For the first time in a long time.
    ————————————————————–
    But they won those 10 games with Fitz not Geno!
    Geno is so bad he got punched out by his own teammate and nobody in the locker room stood up for him.The thought of him starting has kept Marshall and Decker out of OTA`s in protest. The first 6 games are Cin,Buff,KC,Seat,Pitt & Ariz. Think about those defenses? It will be over in 6 weeks with Geno starting those games.How much is your season worth?

  61. Everyone keeps saying Fitz has no leverage but Geno is his leverage. Why sign a deal like that now when you can wait and see if another team has an injury knowing full well the Jets will be there later because their only other choice is Geno Smith.

  62. Pete Carroll is a 9/11 truther says:
    May 28, 2016 8:49 AM
    Teams his agent should call:
    Bills
    Browns
    Rams
    49ers
    Broncos
    __________________

    Well obviously he should fire that agent immediately and hire you. smh

  63. He’s really just not that good but there simply are not enough decent quarterbacks for 32 starting positions. It is what it is. Jets probably have more to lose here. All Fitzpatrick needs to do is wait for a quarterback to get hurt and he has a brand new contract and a possible fresh start somewhere else (i.e., if the Jets haven’t already cried Uncle and upped their offer). One preseason game without Fitzpatrick might be all that is needed to get a bigger contract.

  64. I agree with everyone saying Fitz is average at best as a starting QB. and 8-10m is a lot of money but like others have stated the average starting QB salary is 17m now.Chase Daniel got 3 years 21m and he has thrown 77 passes in 6 career seasons so a 3 year 24-30m deal off a 30 TD season isn`t something he should be in a hurry to sign.Going thru the off season without your starting QB in the building and low balling him is not good for chemistry and team building.

  65. Of course there are options, Fitz can sit or retire and the Jets have other QBs on the team. But if they want to be competitive they better open the vault and pay up.

  66. I compare it to selling a luxury house. Since there are not a lot of 18 bedroom, 15 bath houses sitting on 29 acres of land, its difficult to get a true comp to peg your price to.

    Just like there are not a lot of 34 year QB’s who threw 31 TD’s in just one season, and it just so happens it was last season. Good luck to both sides and for Jet fans, it could be worse. You could be stuck with management that actually thinks Bridgewater is a real NFL QB.

  67. No dog in this fight but… not one person in here would work for half of what their peers make. And “one good year”? Have any of you had one good year at anything? Like a year, where in your line of work there are only 31 other jobs like yours and you were one of the better employees at said job? Seriously – one. Just one. After that good year, how happy were you when your gazillionaire boss came at you and said, “Sorry – no one else wants to give you more than we do.” Weren’t you so stoked?! Didn’t you run out to tell the world, “The market has spoken, this rules!”
    Gawd – make up your minds: Are the owners money grubbing thieves who want you to buy stadiums for them.. or are they just market indicators?

  68. Maccagnan is between a rock and a hard place. The Jets are 2 years away from significant cap space but that space will come at the expense of wholesale roster departures. Meanwhile they won 10 games last year against an easy schedule but have a brutal one this. Even with a significantly better QB than Fitz they are unlikely to be any better than 8-8 this year a tough sell to a fan base that just got a taste of hope after the recent trainrex. Yet with Geno at the helm they would be lucky to win 5 against that schedule. Damn tough spot

  69. Fitz will be 34 in November. He’s had 2 relatively good seasons in an 11 year career. He is a bridge. Not an answer. The offer is a SMART offer.

    Fitz has a career passer rating of 80. That’s worse than almost anyone you listed MDS. His comp % is barely over 60.

    He is a journeyman qb at the end of his career looking for one last major payday.

    Good on the Jets for not being fools.

  70. the fly in the ointment is some of the jets other offensive players ie decker, marshall support fitz. so jets if they play hardball, possibly cut fitz, run the risk of destroying the locker room/having a mutiny.

    jets peaked last yr anyway. they will be worse each yr til bowles is fired.

  71. Geno and the threat of a 4-12 season is Fitzpatrick’s leverage? Because they’re a Super Bowl contender with Fitz?

    Todd Bowles is in his second year, and he’s got bigger plans than getting to another improbable, overachieving 10-6 season with a quarterback who is not the long-term answer. They cave and give Fitzpatrick $16 million a year for the next two. Where does that get them? Past the Patriots, Steelers, Bengals, or Chiefs? Nope. Even with the Colts, Texans, Broncos, or Ravens? Maybe.

    How ’bout they just keep the difference between what Fitz wants and what they’re offering – or just keep the entire amount if Fitz prefers making nothing to making $12 million – and put that towards genuinely elite players. That just may pay off bigger in two years than hitching the wagon to a guy that’s never been The Answer anywhere (else).

  72. A: With Fitz the Jets are a contender and fun to watch.
    B: Without Fitz the Jets’ will be a plodding/boring team that won’t make the playoffs.
    I think it is worth it to take option A.

  73. Classic faulty logic in this article, just because everybody is overpaying the quarterback, doesn’t mean the Jets should. There are 22 starters on D and O on each team, the qb takes all the credit and all the blame so I understand a premium for the position but QB pay has gotten to be ridiculous with teams mortgaging their future to sign marginal QB’s when they think they are “one player away” I don’t want Sam Bradford as my starter, I don’t want Brock Osweiler and I don’t want Ryan Fitzpatrick. Out of those three however I would probably want Fitzpatrick because he has more of a track record than Osweiler and a better injury history than Bradford but all 3 are mediocre at best and not worth more than 7.5 mil/per. Gimme a solid OL instead and you can make anyone put up those stats in today’s NFL (not Gino Smith, that guy is garbage)

  74. so the jets stance seems to be: take less than market value, or they’ll give bryce petty game snaps at some point. also the owner thinks cte is a myth. any leverage the jets seem to have is the owners willingness to self sabotage his team.

  75. lscottman3 says:
    May 28, 2016 11:57 AM
    is he any worse than earl morrell
    Last I recall Earl led the dolphins to a perfect season, something all other QB’s can only dream about. =)

  76. Actually I am pretty sure Fitz is content with retiring if the Jets dont pay him accordingly, which is why its funny the Jets r losing this negotiation with all the leverage. I guess Fitz has more they we say since the Jets alternative is Geno Smith starting.

  77. Johnson continues to prove he is not only an ineffective owner, he is also a man who continually uses a compliant media to sell his lies to his team’s fans.

    Goodell and a small cabal of NFL owners have made lying through the mefia commonplace.

  78. skoobyfl says:
    May 28, 2016 10:18 AM
    I hear fast food is paying $15 an hour up that way so maybe Ryan should consider a career change ?

    Given that Fitzpatrick is a Harvard Grad it would not be a huge surprise if the can get a job at a New York or Boston or Chicago investment bank where he would still be making millions.

    That alone could be playing into his thinking that if the Jets will not pay him at least X dollars, then it is not worth continuing to play.

  79. No big deal the Jets have geno. Right?

    Fitz is actually smarter than the guys in the Jets fo. If he doesn’t want to play for a certain number then he wont. It is calculated I am sure and not just some emotional thing.

    If he agrees to 12 then that sets him at 12. What is kaep making again?

  80. HE HAS NEVER WON ANYTHING!!! Why should he get paid elite QB money, when he has accomplished absolutely NOTHING?????

  81. The experienced, elite backup type money being offered is what he is worth in that backup role……….Except, the Jets need a starting QB……..

    If Fitz sits and waits, some starting QB will be hurt and he will make more money signing a one year deal with that other team. He doesn’t need the Jets to play this year as the chances that a QB will be hurt this coming season is virtually 100%.

  82. It doesn’t matter if you think he’ll take the team to the championship. What matters is if the QB will make the team competitive. That is the only way you keep you fan base happy and potentially win over new fans of the team. If the QB plays poorly then the OL will be bad, receives and RBs will look bad, and defense will have nothing to play for. He should be paid for what he is worth to the team as long as he is on the team. A few years of bad QB play will cripple a team and fans desire to support them. He is worth at least average QB money. Meaning 15MM plus. The Jets are playing with fire.

  83. quicktaker says:
    May 28, 2016 12:25 PM
    A: With Fitz the Jets are a contender and fun to watch.
    __________________

    Contender? Take a look at that schedule then get back to us on which 11 they win. Maccagnan has to take the long view. They have a ways to go before they recover from years of bad contracts and some painful misses. It’s got to be tough because they look close on the surface but their cap hell is real. Hope the ownership and fan base is patient because there’s a lot to like so far in Maccagnan and Bowles.

  84. Supply and demand.
    Jets only team with opening.
    $12m is a huge amount of money.
    Fitzpatrick is worth backup money.
    He has never won anything!

    Thing that most people don’t realise is Fitzpatrick is an incredibly intelligent individual who not only understands his market worth, but has also invested his money wisely and can retire right now and live a life of luxury.

    Just because the Jets are the only current team with an opening at starter, doesn’t negate the fact that Fitzpatrick to many is the only starting quality QB currently available.

    As each day goes by, there are more chances that another team’s starter goes down with an injury, and Fitzpatrick will be the first player they call. Hell… even the Patriots might get involved if Brady remains suspended for the first four games and they decide they don’t currently have faith in their backups. Fitzpatrick could probably earn at least half of what the Jets are offering him for the season, just to play four games!

    The Jets players appear to support Fitzpatrick, and I think the Jets will be fools – assuming they wish to compete this season – if they don’t up their offer to at least $16m.

  85. “If Fitz sits and waits, some starting QB will be hurt and he will make more money signing a one year deal with that other team.”

    The only team that would be so desperate to a replacement-level quarterback is a contender, and contenders don’t have more than $12 million laying around after the season starts, especially considering – if he’s replacing a team’s injured starter – that he definitely won’t be playing a full sixteen games with that team. In your scenario, there’s neither the money nor the incentive for another team to pay him more than what the Jets are offering.

  86. Those saying Fitz is being stubborn….it goes both ways.

    If youre the NY Jets GM, is going 6-10 with Geno Smith or ruining a rookie Qb by throwing him into the deep end of the pool only to be fired at the end of the season worth more than paying an extra $1-3 million of someone elses money to have a shot at the playoffs again?

  87. The Jets are a few million dollars between a solid, promising season at the minimum, and a disastrous season. Can’t believe they’re playing hardball.

    They will have a terrible season without Fitzpatrick.

  88. egomaniac247 says:
    May 28, 2016 2:25 PM
    Those saying Fitz is being stubborn….it goes both ways.

    If youre the NY Jets GM, is going 6-10 with Geno Smith or ruining a rookie Qb by throwing him into the deep end of the pool only to be fired at the end of the season worth more than paying an extra $1-3 million of someone elses money to have a shot at the playoffs again?

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    I see your mistake. The Jets have no shot at the playoffs even with him. Their schedule is much harder and Fitz doesn’t put together 2 good seasons in a row regardless. That’s why Buffalo canned him soon after giving him that big contract.

    The only person who wins is Fitz.

  89. Losing as a favorite in week 17 and missing the playoffs probably has something to do with this.

  90. “the reality is that the Jets are not offering Fitzpatrick the kind of money that you’d expect a quarterback who threw for 3,905 yards, 31 touchdowns and 15 interceptions while leading his team to a 10-6 record to make”

    True- but it may be in line with what a QB who has been on 6 teams in 10 years and has almost a 1 to 1 TD to INT ratio if take out his one big season.

  91. How many of those QB making 18 million are 33 yrs old not named Brady or Brees? Its an age thing along with no market for Fitz, Fitz made his money already and succeed in NY because of the talent around him and looking at his history he’s due to be injured this yr….I like Fitz, take the 12 million put in a opt out clause that he holds and then put up big numbers again and I’m sure he’ll find a sucker to pay him good money…

  92. But almost all of those QBs have taken their teams to the playoffs and many have won multiple championships. Fitzpatrick is closer to Sanchez than he is to Rodgers. He had his chance to make a claim on a bigger payday in the must-win game against Buffalo to close the season. He threw three picks.

  93. May 28, 2016 10:38 AM
    Come to new England and choke in the playoffs with us!

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    Pot, meet kettle.

    WIDE LEFT!!!!..!!….!!!!!

  94. 4 times the Jets have won more games than they did in 2015. In 56 years!
    Running the starting QB out of town either seems apropros or colossally stupid.
    Your call.

  95. Fitzpatrick is kind of like Sam Bradford. He’s just a stop gap player. The Jets only need Fitz until Bryce Petty is ready. They don’t need him for three years. Petty is probably ready to go right now. I’d just hand the keys to Petty and see what happens. The goal is to win the super bowl. You know you aren’t getting there with Fitz.

  96. $12 million for a quarterback seemingly no one believes in is a great deal. It’s awesome compared to what they were rumored to really want to pay him, which was more around 8 or 9 mil. Fitz will just prove the naysayers wrong, like last year.

  97. Jets need to revise their offer to a 2yr/$35Mil deal, with SB of $9Mil, 1st year salary of $2Mil, 2nd yr salary $24Mil… if he plays like a mid-level QB he’ll get his $$$ in year 2, otherwise he starts for a year and is gone. Harvard grad won’t go for it, but it’s got the $$ he’s looking for.

  98. $12million is fair for Ryan Fitzpatrick. He’s already proven when given big money (Buffalo) he doesn’t live up to it. He is what he is. He’s a litter better than average but he’s not your franchise QB and he’s not a Pro Bowler.

  99. David Smith are you kidding me? It was a fluke Fitzpatrick played good last year. This guy has made plenty of money for losing games. Why is Fitzpatrick demanding to be paid like an elite qb? HE’S NOT! Statistics show he will be worse this year. The jets need to put their foot down and say that’s it. No other team wants him. Fitz may have screwed himself!

  100. If the Jets wanted me to hold the clipboard for $12 million, I’d jump at the chance because… it’s 12 MILLION dollars! Where else are you going to make that kind of money, Fitz? Take the money, invest it well, and call it a career.

  101. I have never seen a guy get so many passes batted at the line or deflected downfield and not have one get picked. Someone needs to run the tape and figure out if this was some kind of Elias Sports record. Bills should of had 2 pick six’s quarter one week 17. Minkovich knocked about 4 down.

    JM

  102. Sign a one year deal, play well and prove to other teams you are worth more than what 50% of other qbs make in free agency next year. He won’t forgot how they tried taking advantage of him.

  103. Fitz has shown that with a good OL and WR squad he can lead a team, win, and build momentum.

    Whatever contract disputes they have, it seems like a relatively easy fix: put in escalators. Offer a base salary and write-up some bonuses: $1m for making it to the play-offs, $1m for playing the whole season, $2m for wining the division, etc.

    Whatever the Jets do they cannot go in with Geno as their starter. Geno is where Fitz was five years ago… potential, but still putting things together. Personally, I think Fitz is a better QB overall. I don’t think the Hack is ready to go… he’s kinda like a Gabbert. Needs time to develop.

  104. Too many people here are butt hurt over their own financial circumstances to actually see what the article is saying. Either that or you just lack reading comprehension fundamentals. The article isn’t about supply and demand. It isn’t about whether 12 million is more or less than 0. There are 22 QBs making significantly more than him. Yet there are only about 4 or 5 who arguably earned that right. The rest of the league make less because they are still on rookie contracts that set artificial limits. To take less than a rookie devalues yourself. Why would anyone do that? If he is a free agent, he stands a better chance of making what he wants if he just says no and wait for some team to lose a QB and becomes needy. He’ll get the money he wants and simultaneously give NY the finger.

  105. vincespowersweep says:
    May 28, 2016 8:44 AM
    “Reported Fitzpatrick offer pales in comparison to most starting QBs”

    Well that makes sense, because Ryan Fitzpatrick also pales in comparison to most starting QBs

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    Well someone had to say it.

  106. Reminds me of Welker who thought he could demand a huge FA contract and left NE in a huff. Guess what the rest of the league thought he was a short slow system player. Fitz has played for half the teams in the league his is who they think he is.

  107. I actually think there is an answer here: an incentive laden contract. Pay him bargain basement salary guaranteed, then tie incentives to performance (starts, completion %, minimum TDs, # of wins, playoff appearance, etc.). If he plays like a star, he gets paid like one.

    By the way, I don’t think either side is wrong here, though I do think Fitz has slightly more leverage if he’s willing to retire. He’s under no obligation to play for less than he feels he deserves and has every right to hold out for as much as he can get.

    The Jets have every right to offer what they feel is fair for his performance and not budge…if they’re willing to roll with Geno Smith and whoever else they’ve got (and the consequences that come with that) if Fitz walks away.

  108. dretwann says:
    May 29, 2016 11:00 AM

    Too many people here are butt hurt over their own financial circumstances to actually see what the article is saying. Either that or you just lack reading comprehension fundamentals. The article isn’t about supply and demand. It isn’t about whether 12 million is more or less than 0. There are 22 QBs making significantly more than him. Yet there are only about 4 or 5 who arguably earned that right. The rest of the league make less because they are still on rookie contracts that set artificial limits. To take less than a rookie devalues yourself. Why would anyone do that? If he is a free agent, he stands a better chance of making what he wants if he just says no and wait for some team to lose a QB and becomes needy. He’ll get the money he wants and simultaneously give NY the finger.

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    If you think anyone is going to sign him for more than 12M per year (or $750K per game) after the season starts, you’re on crack. Please show me any one example in the modern free agent history of the NFL where that happened.

    At it’s simplest level, this is supply and demand. The demand for a starting QB with mediocre career stats in the NFL stands at 1 – the NYJ.

    I really like Fitzpatrick, and to be clear, this is not between Fitz and Woody, or Fitz and the Jets, or Fitz and Mikey Mac. It’s between the NYJs front office and Fitzpatrick’s agent. If anything, the agent needs to level with Fitzpatrick. And maybe he has. And the game now is wait until mini-camp before you sign, or even training camp. But to think its a good idea to stick it to the Jets by waiting until someone loses a QB during the regular season is ludicrous. As if the Jets would care at that point. Because it’s not going to be a playoff team it happens to, it’ll be a bottom feeder. And the Jets maybe bottom feeding at that point, too. But at least they won’t be stuck with an albatross contract around their neck.

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