Fitzpatrick offer: Three years, $24 million

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The suddenly public (sort of) back-and-forth continues between the Jets and quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Two days after the Jets (and, yes, it was the Jets) leaked to anyone who was listening that their longstanding offer to Fitzpatrick pays out $12 million in the first year of a three-year deal, multiple reports (undoubtedly instigated by Camp Fitz) indicate that the deal has a total base value of $24 million over three years.

The $8 million annually average would put Fitzpatrick below all starting quarterbacks not named Tyrod Taylor or not otherwise operating under a wage-scale rookie deal.

The bigger takeaway is that the nothing-personal situation between team and player is quickly getting personal, starting with sympathy OTA absences by receivers Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker, continuing with the team’s obvious effort to make Fitzpatrick look greedy, and culminating in Fitzpatrick’s effort to expose the Jets as cheap.

Meanwhile, we’ll continue to say what we’ve been saying for most of the last week: These two sides need to go into a room, lock the door from the outside, and work this thing out. If they can’t, they should shake hands and go their separate ways.

109 responses to “Fitzpatrick offer: Three years, $24 million

  1. If a not very good QB is named teh starter, should they get paid like a middling one?
    Should Fitz get paid as much as Alex Smith or Andy Dalton?
    I don’t think so.

    If the Jets aren’t paying what the market will bear, Fitz can go elsewhere.
    So why hasn’t he?
    Maybe the market is way below what his agent is asking.

    I hope the Jets don’t sign him and go with Geno Smith.
    With A better receiver corps than 2013 and 2014, Geno may do as well as Fitzpatrick, at a fraction of the price.

  2. Give him an opt out clause after each yr so he can renegotiate if he out performs the contract from yr to yr…everything else about the contract is fair….12 million the yr we want you to start and 6 million to be the veteran back up for one of the young guys

  3. Pretty embarrassing offer. I’ve seen people say Fitz has no leverage; however, if he is actually willing to sit out a year or wait for another team to suffer an injury and/or realize their QB stinks, then Fitz actually has all of the leverage. The Jets know they can’t win with Geno.

  4. I wouldn’t take that.

    That’s not even receiver money. Decker and Marshall both make more than that.

    That’s a huge slap in the face in retrospective to what starting QB’s make.

  5. Typical Jets spend a fortune on aging star in Revis and go cheap on QB who did a very good job for them last year. Let’s see how long until Brandon Marshall goes nutty when Geno Smith keeps overthrowing him.

  6. jets in a cap hell and fitzpatrick is coming off a pro bowl type season.

    osweiler makes 18 mil. fitz is at least worth 12 but the jets are in a serious cap hell they simply don’t understand.

    fitz has all the leverage

  7. There are exactly 2 parties consistently pushing the idea that Fitz holds no leverage:

    – The Jets: Who have consistently followed Fitz around on their hands and knees all while insisting they don’t even want him.

    – Michael Silver: Who sucks.

  8. I agree with the offer of an opt out clause each year. I would also like to see what if any bonuses are available for say playoffs, pro bowl, starts, tds…

    I would offer Fitz a lower base with a potential to earn significantly more in terms of bonuses. You want to show that last year wasn’t a fluke? Then put together a playoff season and you can increase your own salary this season.

  9. “Give him an opt out clause after each yr so he can renegotiate if he out performs the contract from yr to yr”

    And

    “I agree with the offer of an opt out clause each year.”

    Why? Why the opt out? Why not just sign a one year deal each year?

  10. The Jets are cheap, and they rarely ever have above average QB play. I don’t see any other QBs out in the market with Fitzgerald’s talent. Pay up. Or else I’ll be laughing all year long when a rival picks up Fitzpatrick after their starter goes down and stomps the Jets.

  11. The Jets are cheap, and they rarely ever have above average QB play. I don’t see any other QBs out in the market with Fitzgerald’s talent. Pay up. Or else I’ll be laughing all year long when a rival picks up Fitzpatrick after their starter goes down and stomps the Jets.

  12. It would be one thing if they were juggling numbers to try to keep a good team together, but this ain’t that. Who else are they gonna spend it on?

  13. intrafinesse says:
    May 29, 2016 7:31 PM
    If a not very good QB is named teh starter, should they get paid like a middling one?
    Should Fitz get paid as much as Alex Smith or Andy Dalton?
    I don’t think so.

    —————————————————————–
    Sounds like you are saying Dalton is a middle-of-the-road QB. He was being touted as a possible MVP candidate last year until his injury.
    I wouldn’t pay Fitz much either. I don’t think he has ever had 2 good years in a row. They should try for a 1 year deal and see how it goes.

  14. I cant believe im seeing a QB like Fitzpatrick hold out, QBs like him should be signing one year prove it deals every year because they have already shown they are not franchise QBs.

    remember when he had a few good games in a row and buffalo paid him bank? didnt he end up getting cut that same year? haha

  15. Hey intrafinese:
    Andy Dalton? Hoo-fah! Andy Dalton is 0-4 in the playoffs. That’s one big goose-egg.

    Mark Sanchez is 4-2 IN THE PLAYOFFS!The anomalies of pay are just that. Somebody in Mgt said yes and wrote a check. Doesn’t confirm a good decision. And time will tell if say, Cincy made a good deal.

    The Jets are just foolish cheapskates. From the millionaire who owns Johnson & Johnson.

  16. 3 year, 39 mil, 24 guaranteed gets this done.

    Fair and reasonable for both parties. Just do it already !

  17. The Jets tried to spin it their way by leaking only parts of the details. Untrustworthy management. No team wants to commit long term to fitz. They only want him as a stopgap qb.

  18. Get in a room and compromise? Why?

    If I want to sell a rental house and the buyer thinks it’s overpriced, we don’t have to split the difference. We can simply walk away and look for somebody else to deal with.

    The same thing here. The Jets can offer whatever they want and if Fitz doesn’t like it he can simply go look for some other deal. In so doing, he might just make them look like fools.

  19. Honestly, this deal sounds about right to me. Fitzpatrick is 33 and last year was somewhat of an outlier in terms of his production. Do you think it makes sense for the Jets to pay him mid-tier starting QB money for three straight years based on what he did last year?

  20. It’s mathematically impossible to pay every starting QB average or better salaries. Someone has to be below average on the pay scale. Makes sense for it to be a below average quarterback.

  21. Didn’t this happen in Buffalo and eventually in Houston? He plays great, gets a big contract and then immediately goes in the tank. Should the Jets repeat the pattern?

  22. Why? Why the opt out? Why not just sign a one year deal each year?

    Having a multi-year deal makes the cap hit less significant for the Jets and would provide Fitz some financial security beyond one year in case he has a significant injury.

  23. The last team that signed Fitzgerald to a nice contract based off his 1 good year for burned. Face it Jets fans, He was nice last yr. But, he is not young and has two good years out of how many? I say give him a 3 yr 36 mill deal with a 18 mill guarantee. With incentives. He was good last yr But even Butt Fumble could throw TDs to those WRs

  24. Man I knew the offer was low but 8 mill a year is pretty crappy, especially w/ no additional incentives. At least give the guy an opp to earn ten mill a year w/ performance payouts. Now I kinda see why fitz is refusing to play for that.

  25. I see a lot of arm chair GM’s bashing the jets. You know what I don’t see? Other teams offering Fitz more money. With each passing week the jets get more and more leverage.

  26. More like $24 Million, TWO years, 14 the first year, guarantee 12.

    Still seems kind of low considering what guys like Osweiler, Flacco, crap even Eli make.

    Not only did Fitz have a really good year last year, he was one of the better QBs in 2014 with Houston, imagine if he had the same Coach, on the same Team, two years in a row? Fitzmagic baby!

    Don’t get cheap NY, unless you plan on tanking for Watson, which won’t be easy with RGIII and his merry band of men stinking it up in Cleveland.

  27. gedole says:
    May 29, 2016 8:09 PM
    Is it crazy to think Denver would be far better off with Fitz than Butt Fumble?
    ______________

    Not at 3 times the price. Denver doesn’t want to pay his asking price either. They talked months ago. Denver needs to pay Von Miller. The difference between Fitz and Sanchez is not worth the price. Elway knows what he’s doing.

  28. “…the deal has a total base value of $24 million over three years.”

    Interesting word that “base”, the Jets cap hell is real. Does base mean substantial attainable incentives? There is more here than either side is letting on. The one year or option idea doesn’t work, the Jets won’t have real cap space until 2018.
    As far as the folks calling the Jets cheap, they aren’t in cap jail because they are cheap. Maccagnan is in a tough spot

  29. Jets should cut their losses NOW and see what Fitz gets after he’s gone!nobody else is gonna give this guy big bucks,he better take the money and be glad!

  30. He’s barely worth that much.

    The Jets are notoriously cheap. Instead of getting their own stadium elsewhere, they have insisted on staying in ours for the past 32 years and counting.

    Says a lot.

  31. Modern Day Einstein says:
    May 29, 2016 8:49 PM
    More like $24 Million, TWO years, 14 the first year, guarantee 12.

    Still seems kind of low considering what guys like Osweiler, Flacco, crap even Eli make.
    ————–

    This portion of the post — never mind the rest — is galling considering the unmitigated gall you have to use the name that you use here.

  32. tigershark0052 says:
    May 29, 2016 8:17 PM
    The Jets tried to spin it their way by leaking only parts of the details. Untrustworthy management. No team wants to commit long term to fitz. They only want him as a stopgap qb.
    ————————–

    Of course they did, lol. And Fitz’s team is now doing the same.

  33. I don’t have horse in this race (my team has its own problems) but I’m siding with the player.

  34. This has the feeling of Woody being involved. Year to year doesn’t work since you can’t prorate the signing bonus so they would have a $12 million cap charge in 2016; the Jets don’t have the cap space for year to year. If Fitz takes their deal it’s $8 million cap charge in 2016.

    This situation goes critical in July in training camp when the rubber hits the road. If Fitz is serious – August brings quarterback injuries and a contract for one year $10 million 2016 money with a team able to cut Fitz after the season with no cap hit (probably out of New York so he doesn’t need to pay NY taxes). Geno will be quarterback when the Jets’ defense wins six games in 2016; Fitz is back in 2017; the Jets melt down in 2016. Woody blames the GM and the Jets get a new one in 2017. Still no long term answer at QB; Woody is still the owner; the fan base is disgusted and hates New England even more.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of being a Jets fan.

  35. I can’t believe people are actually behind the idea to pay Fitzpatrick big bucks and thinks this a slap in the face. Just because Osweiler, Bradford, and Chase Daniels were given ridiculously stupid contracts by their respective teams doesn’t mean that is the normal. Doesn’t this sound similar to the Mark Sanchez extension a few years ago? how did cutting a bunch of good players to pay for one crappy QB work out for them? AT LEAST Sanchez still had potential. I remember it showed that they would be better off keeping the core of their team and looking elsewhere.

    Even if Revis is a bit overpaid right now his cap number drastically drops after 2016 and he has had a way better career than Fitz. The contracts with Skrine, Gilchrist, Mangold, Marshall, and Decker drop dramatically too, after 2016. Which will put the Jets at 40 million under the cap without the incoming increase next year. Keep the team, start Geno, he either sucks and you can grab a QB high to add to a good team, or (I highly doubt) he’s the future QB, franchise mo again but work out a long term deal to lower the cap hit, try and sign Richardson and if you can’t agree then roll over some cap space into 2018 to resign both Richardson and Pryor. While doing all of this keep drafting O-line/wide receiver/QB.

  36. Fitzpatrick is a run-of-the-mill QB who had his best year ever last year. There’s no way he’ll do it again this year. The Jets should say “see ya” to him and move on.

  37. Everybody talks about Osweiler & Bradford making 18m but Chase Danial got a 3 year 21m deal after throwing 77 career passes just to be a backup.
    3 years 24m after 30 TD`s is a low ball offer.

  38. As a Bills fan (who knows all too well about Fitz’s shortcomings), I’m happy either way:

    If the Jets re-sign him, then the Bills get to face Ryan Fitzpatrick twice a season (they swept the Jets last year, and Rex Ryan’s defense owns Fitz)

    If the Jets DON’T re-sign him, then they have to start Geno, Hackenberg, or Petty.

    Either way, the outcome should be favorable for the teams that have to play against the Jets.

  39. Keep the team, start Geno, he either sucks and you can grab a QB high to add to a good team, or (I highly doubt) he’s the future QB, franchise mo again but work out a long term deal to lower the cap hit,
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    Well if your willing to throw the season away then absolutely don`t resign him. The only leverage he has is knowing that the team doesn`t believe in Geno at all.With their first 6 games they will be 1-5 and done with Geno and move on to Hackenberg.

  40. 8 million a year over three years is a slap in the face to Fitz. Years two and three are at 6 million each!! Basically, they want to lock him up as their starter for three years at high end back up QB money.

    Sorry, that is not how it works.

    Fitz should just sit out until they are painfully reminded what exactly Geno never was or will be, a starting QB. Jets management will panic.

    If not with the jets, a contender’s starter will get hurt and Fitz will get a job eventually.

  41. This is a sad world. What hard working person who works their tail off day in and day out just to make ends meet feel bad for someone who thinks $12 million in one year isn’t enough

  42. For as many wrong-doings the Patriots are accused of, its accurate to say hey have the least motivation to cheat of any other team.

    The AFC East is the least competitive division in the league. The Bills, Fins and Jets are so inept, the Patriots can pencil in 6 wins each year. Few teams have LESS incentive to cheat than New England because quite simply, they don’t need to.

  43. There are exactly 2 parties consistently pushing the idea that Fitz holds no leverage:

    – The Jets: Who have consistently followed Fitz around on their hands and knees all while insisting they don’t even want him.

    – Michael Silver: Who sucks.
    ——

    The Jets have consistently said they DO want Fitz. You can’t really have missed that could you?
    Also, who’s Michael Silver?

  44. The Jets management is just stupid. Spend a few million dollars more to sign him and you’re an instant contender; save that few million and lose him and you’ll sit at the bottom of the division for the next few years.

    It’s not like you’re going to have to pay Fitzpatrick some enormous contract for many years. Pay him well for a couple years, groom a new starter, and contend in the meantime.

    Isn’t that what a team that cared about its fans would do?

  45. What an insult.
    Offer him an incentive loaded deal and keep a younger guy in the wings learning, absorbing and getting ready for eventual starting.
    No wonder the Jets suck.
    Their management appears clueless

  46. ryann252013 says:
    May 29, 2016 9:10 PM
    Even if Revis is a bit overpaid right now his cap number drastically drops after 2016 and he has had a way better career than Fitz. The contracts with Skrine, Gilchrist, Mangold, Marshall, and Decker drop dramatically too, after 2016. Which will put the Jets at 40 million under the cap without the incoming increase next year
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    Spotrac has them at $4.6M under next year without the increase and that’s without Mo factored in

  47. There is no way Fitzpatrick is going to take a “prove it” deal at his age. Its up to the Jets to make him a fair offer and paying below every QB in the league but rookies and starters is not going to get it done.

    Who knows where this will end up but already you have to ask how much this has damaged the relationship, the Jets are telling him you are not worth much of anything. There is negotiating and then there is here is an offer to placate the fans but we really dont want you offers!

  48. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    May 29, 2016 9:26 PM
    I hope he holds out until week 5.
    —————————

    By definition UFA’s can’t hold out. One would thing a fan (since 1976) would know how it works

  49. The Jets really just don’t have any options. I don’t understand why people think they have leverage. The more time passes the more likely it is that someone will get hurt and the market will open for him.

    Here are the Jets option: Pay Fitz a bit more than what he is probably worth and at least have a chance to get into the playoffs.

    OR

    Don’t pay Fitz and have no chance, probably look terrible as Fitz has a good year on a different team.

  50. kevpft says:
    May 29, 2016 9:31 PM
    The Jets management is just stupid. Spend a few million dollars more to sign him and you’re an instant contender; save that few million and lose him and you’ll sit at the bottom of the division for the next few years.

    It’s not like you’re going to have to pay Fitzpatrick some enormous contract for many years. Pay him well for a couple years, groom a new starter, and contend in the meantime.

    Isn’t that what a team that cared about its fans would do?
    ____________________

    This shows a profound lack of understanding of where the Jets are at as well as their upcoming schedule. With or without Fitz they will not contend this year and Maccagnan knows it. A GM that cares about his team walks a tight rope suspended over a combination of his ownership and fan base’s expectations as well as his team’s current and future needs. Maccagnan is between a rock and a hard place

  51. misterpositivity says:
    May 29, 2016 9:29 PM
    The AFC East is the least competitive division in the league. The Bills, Fins and Jets are so inept, the Patriots can pencil in 6 wins each year.
    ———————-

    The Patriots have gone 4-2 in division 3 years in a row, they have only swept the division once in the last 5 years. Their winning percentage in the Belichick era is .015 higher against the division than it is against the rest of the league. Not only was the AFCE the winningest division in football last year but it has averaged more wins per team than any other division in the last ten years. I’m a Pats fan but a little respect goes a long way.

  52. arealisticpackerfan says:
    May 29, 2016 7:37 PM

    The Jets know they can’t win with Geno.
    _________________________

    And they aren’t winning it all with Fitz under center for the next 2 years… so, why not start the rebuilding now?

  53. Anyone else see that atrocious playoff game Fitz lead? With that said, was the abomination all on him or did the coaching staff go away from what got them there in the first place?? Wouldn’t be the first time coaches out coached themselves…

  54. thebeeper says:
    May 29, 2016 9:25 PM
    This is a sad world. What hard working person who works their tail off day in and day out just to make ends meet feel bad for someone who thinks $12 million in one year isn’t enough
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    I understand this perspective, and the overworked, underpaid view of myself could not agree more.

    However, the fact remains that my services are, sadly, not in demand as much as Ryan Fitzpatrick.

    There simply aren’t enough people on this planet worthy of doing the job we are speaking about effectively enough. Its supply and demand. I would totally go out there and work 23 hours a day to make league minimum, but admittedly, I wouldn’t prove worthy of leading a multi billion dollar franchise.

    The operational budgets of these teams are what they are, because of US. WE are 100% to blame for the market price. If no one watched Professional Football, these guys would have to pay league/uniform fees so the teams could afford to rent the high school fields they would play on*cough* Semi-Pro *cough*.

    So thats the rub. It is what it is. Fitz threw 33 TDs last year and was the MVP of the Jets. He is their most valuable player. Disagree? Watch your record plummet under Geno Smith.

    Keep in mind, I’m not a Jets fan, I find Jets fans obnoxious, but I understand the way the world works.

    Im more offended that government paper pushers take 3 weeks to process anything and get paid pensions for not doing anything for the rest of their lives, if I produced that poor of a turnover ratio at my job I would be let go.

    Pay the man, or let him sit back and be this years version of 20q5 Michael Vick. Fitz is acclimated at joining new teams in new systems and outplaying whoever else they have at the position. The ball is entirely in his court. Wait until Romo goes down again with his robot shoulder, no way Jerry doesn’t pay way more than this ridiculous low ball offer in order for Fitz to come in on a white horse and triumphantly lead the Cowboys to 8-8(not a Cowboys fan either).

    Lifes not fair.

  55. Why bother wasting even this amount on him? Have an open-competition between Geno, Petty, and Hackenberg and use this season to see what you have in whichever one.

  56. Bills dropped a truck full of cash to his house once after a couple of good games, and then he imploded. The real Fitzpatrick showed up during their last season game. 10 years of mediocrity. He isn’t going to change now.

  57. Everyone keeps saying Fitz should just sit and wait for someone to get hurt and sign on as a starter for them. That is incredibly stupid. First of all, banking on a starting QB position on a contender to get injured is a huge risk. Second of all, no team is going to pay Fitz what he wants to come into a new system and be anywhere as good as he was last year.

  58. This is how the Jets ensure they miss the playoffs again. It is so blatantly obvious that a QB who gets you 10 wins, 3900 yards, and 31 TDs, deserves more than back-up QB money. Chase Daniel is gonna get $7M a year, and he’s gonna be 3rd string.

    But the guaranteed losing comes from the issues with chemistry. Players want Fitz back. They see what he did for them last year, and the way the team has rewarded him, and it doesn’t sit well. Players can see the lack of loyalty. How many years has it been since they had a winning record? So now they wanna be cheap. He’s a perfect match for that system, but it doesn’t matter. Fitz is right to sit and wait. When they get to see the level of suck in Geno, they’ll raise the price.

  59. He should jump all over that. He’s old as dirt, and has an upside worse than Tyrod Taylor, if that’s possible. Journymen QB’s aren’t meant to cash in. They’re lucky continuing to get to play. The market has set itself on this guy, and yes, it’s that low. Glad my team wouldn’t offer him that. He’s not worth that much. Beating up the Bills and Dolphins doesn’t impress me much.

  60. The Jets are notoriously cheap. Yes, they are so cheap they are out of cap space. Overpaid for Revis but they are cheap. Watch the film, Fitz was not lighting it up. He’s a gunslinger who gets his balls tipped at the line a lot. It’s a rough QB situation no matter how you slice it. So why pay thru the nose for a guy with 40-70 career record. It is true, Geno played 2 years with little WR talent. Year one he was chucking it to Santonio and Stephen Hill. Post list franc Santonio. I think holding the clipboard may have done a lot for him. His last start he was 2nd in AFC offensive plater of week. last 7 games ranked 9th in PFF QB ratings in 2014.

  61. I hope the jets mess this one up permanently, and keep their dysfunctional franchise going down the wrong path. This is so Jets/woody Johnson to penny pinch their starting qb going into a year in which they clearly have playoff aspirations. Good job macagnan! Bring on hackenburg, two years before he is ready to play! (If ever!) enjoy the 6-10 season!

  62. This is a fork in the road for Fitzpatricks career. If he takes that deal he will always be considered a low level qb regardless of his success going forward. If he truly believes he can compete and remain a starter in the league, he can’t take this deal. If he isn’t sure, then he should just take the money. He may be better off sitting a few games out and waiting until Romo gets hurt again or something else comes up. He’ll probably get similar money but the opportunity to look like the hero and increase his value.

  63. The fact that jets fans are acting like Ryan Fitzpatrick is… Tom Brady just shows how bad the Jets actually are. Nobody else in the NFL has even considered payinng Fitz anywhere near what the Jets are offering him (and I don’t think you’ll find any fans anywhere saying how stupid their team is for not going out and signing Fitzpatrick) he’s had a decade of up and down play. a good year here and good year there and you guys want the Jets to commit 3 years to a 33 year old journyman QB who has never over a decade in the NFL strung together even decent back to back years.. Does it really matter who has leverage between a very very very average 33 year old QB, and a team that is desperate enough to be begging for said qb to come back. If I’m the Jets I don’t even talk to him anymore.. tell him thats the offer come play or retire, because nobody else is offering him anything

  64. Fitz has no reason to give the Jets a discount, he isnt asking to be paid top tier. Hes asking to be paid as an average NFL starting QB. 8 million is not that. He deserves 12-15 annually, on a 2-3 year deal. The market set the price and hes the one being reasonable. Cant blame the Jets for playing the demand for him and trying to get him cheap, but also cant blame Fitz for saying I wont play if not properly compensated. Lets see how far the Jets r willing to go with Geno as the #1.

  65. Take it or Leave ! It’s that simple, if Fitz thinks he can duplicate last season or Improve upon them elsewhere then Go ! If you think standing around arguing with the Jets by putting their offer on Blast will change their mind then think again. Pretty simple, last I checked No Team in the Conference has a QB outperforming some guy named Brady and until that happens everyone else is second-fiddle. Go BEAT TB & the PATS, then go back and renegotiate your contract !!!

  66. Not one person commenting or reading this thread has a Ryan Fitzpatrick jersey for a reason..he’s mediocre, so therefore his deal is mediocre. Brandon Marshall said he went to the jets to play with geno smith. He should focus on that now.

  67. After seeing what Bradford got, I’d would laugh in the jets face too if i was fitz. Go be a backup somewhere for a year, hell Chase Daniels got 7 million a year from the eagles. Hit free agency next year.

  68. He has no other offers anywhere near what the Jets are offering him.

    And Fitzy and his agent who keeps whispering in his ears, “this is why you hired me, trust me I know what I am doing” still have another month to play the game.

    Once we get into July, Fitzy loses any leverage he thinks he has, then they negotiate the best deal they can with MM and Jets holding the winning hand.

  69. Why should he accept 8 mill per year, when a qb who has started a total of 7 games in the nfl in Osweiler gets 18 mill per? What about the precident set in Philly? Backup Daniel is getting 7 mill per to hold a clipboard, and even if thrust into starting, doesn’t have any more gameday experience than Osweiler. Bradford, 20 mill per? For a qb with a sub .500 win % over his career, and on many of those teams he had top 10 defenses and running games to shoulder the load. Any other time, in any sport, when a team crosses the line bigtime by vastly overpaying for subpar talent(Redskins, Texans, Eagles to name a few, the number is now set and other teams can’t backslide in being forced to pay what now has become the pay scale for whichever position those teams overpaid for? If Fitz caves then what does that say going forward? Some teams will pay what ends up being 3-4 times salary a year for a guy than he is actually worth(all three mentioned above), but if you win ten games and have a pro bowl type year, you are only worth what #2, and on some teams, the #3 qb is currently making….come on now!

  70. Fitz should sign a one year deal at $10 million. If he has a good year, especially if the Jets do some damage in the playoffs, Fitz will be in position for the Franchise Tag and make out better than if he signed a three year deal for what his agent wants now. He needs to bet on himself again. If Fitz had played the Jets final game like a winning QB, instead of a career also-ran, there would have been no conversation. He blew it. Now he has to take his medicine and prove he can lead a team to the playoffs.

  71. The Jets fan base is Long Island. So they move to Jersey where the Band Aid factory is.

    They could have had their own world where Pilgrim State is. But no, lets be the red headed step child and follow the Giants around.

    The organization is messed up because the owner is a trust funder.

  72. Just because another team makes a mistake doesn’t mean the Jets have to do the same.

    If the Jets aren’t offering fair market value then why hasn’t Fitz signed with another team?
    Answer – his fair market value is 8MM, or less.

    >>Wonka22 says:
    May 30, 2016 8:31 AM
    Why should he accept 8 mill per year, when a qb who has started a total of 7 games in the nfl in Osweiler gets 18 mill per? What about the precident set in Philly? Backup Daniel is getting 7 mill per to hold a clipboard, and even if thrust into starting, doesn’t have any more gameday experience than Osweiler. Bradford, 20 mill per? For a qb with a sub .500 win % over his career, and on many of those teams he had top 10 defenses and running games to shoulder the load. Any other time, in any sport, when a team crosses the line bigtime by vastly overpaying for subpar talent(Redskins, Texans, Eagles to name a few, the number is now set and other teams can’t backslide in being forced to pay what now has become the pay scale for whichever position those teams overpaid for? If Fitz caves then what does that say going forward? Some teams will pay what ends up being 3-4 times salary a year for a guy than he is actually worth(all three mentioned above), but if you win ten games and have a pro bowl type year, you are only worth what #2, and on some teams, the #3 qb is currently making….come on now!

  73. You would turn down 8MM, to be a back up for what 1MM?
    At this point in the off season, What team will pay a backup QB a lot? Fitz can be a back up, then go free agent next year when he is 34/35? Will he make more then?
    He’s being offered fair market value.
    Take it or retire. LOL

    >>psubeerman21 says:
    May 30, 2016 6:58 AM
    After seeing what Bradford got, I’d would laugh in the jets face too if i was fitz. Go be a backup somewhere for a year, hell Chase Daniels got 7 million a year from the eagles. Hit free agency next year.

  74. The only reason Fitz isn’t signed and won’t get what he wants is because the Jets are in cap hell…same as the Dolphins were until Dawn Aponte worked her magic and remade Suh’s contract so they could sign various free agents and Wake redoing his contract as well. So since the Jets son’t have Aponte, and Marshall and Decker want Fitz so bad, maybe they should stop being posers and redo their contracts so the Jets can signb Fitzpatrick. Folks, it ain’t rocket science!

  75. He has no cards to play for this season. No other teams are interested in him for $12M. He is 33 years old, has never lead a team to the playoffs and is unlikely to get any offers. Its not a good contract, but he needs to get the money while he can.

  76. how come jamies winston who went to florida state gets payed more then ryan fitzpatrick, who went to harvard btw. somethings not right here. could it be reverse rascicm?? not sure, but seems like it.

  77. The problem with Fitz pushing for the solution you describe- locking both sides in a room and either coming to an agreement or going their separate ways is that he has nowhere to go. Whatever you think of the Jets offer, it’s obviously the best one he has or he would already be gone.

    I know that people of your ilk like to roll their eyes at the free market and the concept that what someone deserves is exactly equal to what someone is willing to pay them, that you would prefer to use some formula of your choosing to determine what people are entitled to make.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick is 33 and will turn 34 midway through next season. He has played for 6 teams in 10 years. He has had two above average seasons. After the first one, he was given a huge contract by the Bills and immediately fell on his face. And he was much younger then.

    The market has spoken on ol’ Fitzy. If he holds out until training camp and waits for someone to get hurt, he may get another offer. But it ain’t going to be three years at $24m with $12m guaranteed in year one.

  78. Fitzpatrick is kind of like the fast food workers who are protesting for $15/hour. In both cases, neither will find anyone willing to pay what they want. Maybe Fitz can go to Bernie and Hillary and see if they will help him.

  79. goldenboyoffootball says:
    May 29, 2016 10:03 PM

    Four letters J E T S….. you should be in Jersey with this type of negotiations Embarrassing.
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    They are in New Jersey.

  80. realtruthteller100 says:
    May 30, 2016 11:53 AM

    how come jamies winston who went to florida state gets payed more then ryan fitzpatrick, who went to harvard btw. somethings not right here. could it be reverse rascicm?? not sure, but seems like it.
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    It could be that Fitzpatrick is not that great of a quarterback.

    Good quarterbacks don’t have a closet full of jerseys from different teams.

  81. Well before he said he’d rather retire than play for $7M. So sign it, play one year for a good salary and then retire.
    As a Jets fan I don’t care if he plays or not. Chances are last year was an anomaly or a result of an excellent receiving corp.
    Lots of Jets haters out there, but if it was their team there day the same thing; no reason for them to compete against themselves. The front office is being smart.

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