Three fights at Raiders OTA practice

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Offseason workouts are supposed to be mellow. On Tuesday in Alameda, California, they weren’t.

Via Scott Bair of CSNBayArea.com, three fights broke out during a single Organized Team Activity for the Raiders.

Offensive lineman Kelechi Osemele and defensive end Jihad Ward threw punches at one point. Separately, guard Jon Feliciano and defensive lineman Leon Orr exchanged shoves. Guard Vadal Alexander and defensive end Damontre Moore got into it late in the session.

“I guess they enjoyed the long weekend or were fired up watching the Warriors close one out last night,” coach Jack Del Rio said. “I don’t know.”

Del Rio may not be sure of the cause, but he understands one of the consequences.

“I think it was great opportunity to teach,” Del Rio said. “Today there some of spats going on, which really aren’t a part of what we do. That’s not how we work or how we have respect for each other. In most every case it was a new guy. I take it upon myself there to let guys who weren’t here know what the Raider way looks like.

“Hopefully we won’t waste time doing things like that. We want to play hard, but [while] being respectful. Real toughness is playing hard without hurting the team. We wanted disciplined players, and we expect those things to occur at a real minimum moving forward.”

Quarterback Derek Carr agreed with Del Rio.

“Guys are fighting to earn a job or roster spot so it’ll be intense, but we have to have the culture around here that we’re not about scuffles like that,” Carr said.

“You never want to see guys fighting, but everybody here is competitive and we’ve all gotten to that point where you wanted to punch somebody in the face on the football field.”

The bigger problem, not mentioned by Del Rio, Carr, or Bair, is this: Fights aren’t going to happen after plays if contact isn’t happening during plays. Two years ago, tales of a Seahawks minicamp fight sparked an NFLPA investigation regarding whether the session included contact. The probe hit pay dirt, resulting in six-figure fines for coach Pete Carroll and the team, along with the loss of OTA time the following year.

57 responses to “Three fights at Raiders OTA practice

  1. I’m old enough to remember when players (especially with the Madden/Flores Raiders) used to get into fights during practice and then laugh about it later over beers. The fact that it’s frowned upon in today’s league has NOT improved the game from my standpoint.

  2. Not in Vegas yet Raiders – so unfortunately what happens in Alameda…

  3. Sounds like the raiders could be joining the ravens in the NFL doghouse pretty soon.

  4. Before clicking on this story, I knew K.O. would be involved. Don’t worry though Raiders fans…he’ll miss 4 games with something. Tough guy, but from my recollection, has tough putting together 16 starts.

  5. Wait for it, these “fighting Raiders” are beasts, best ever at their position, great additions by the amazing incredible 16-48 Reggie Mac, Raiders are back baby, yada, yada, yada……….

  6. If I was a fan of a team that was finally pulling itself out of a long slump, I’d be delighted to hear the newest batch of players had fire in them.

    My team was in a similar position not too long ago. They went from an afterthought to a bully. This is football. You need that fire to turn it around.

  7. araidersfan says:
    Jun 1, 2016 6:41 AM
    I’m old enough to remember when players (especially with the Madden/Flores Raiders) used to get into fights during practice and then laugh about it later over beers. The fact that it’s frowned upon in today’s league has NOT improved the game from my standpoint.
    ————————
    Ah yes, the good ol’ days, when injury-bounties, bribery, roids, stickum or other cheating substances were commonplace, and when coaches forced players to take excessive amounts of painkillers, and when punch-bagged or raped women were ignored or pressured into silence, and when serious concussion was treated with nothing more than the chiding remark the total sissy deserved…

  8. 3 fights?

    Either you have contact going on there, which is most likely the case and not allowed, or you’ve got 6 violent individuals who are going to cost you a game in the future (see burfict and the bengals).

    My money is on the contact.

    Have fun with an extra week off soon!

  9. Every team has a few of these during otas and training camp. Nothing to see here.

  10. The fact that Del Rio would even comment on this worthless story is further evidence he doesn’t know what he is doing thereby justifying his firing from Jags and Broncs. Raiders are a loopy laugh track!

  11. Getting a ton of penalties for “extra curricular activities” is no longer the Raiders Way?

  12. Lighten up. Boys are just having some fun and letting off a little steam.

  13. streetyson says:
    Jun 1, 2016 8:02 AM

    araidersfan says:
    Jun 1, 2016 6:41 AM

    Ah yes, the good ol’ days, when injury-bounties, bribery, roids, stickum or other cheating substances were commonplace, and when coaches forced players to take excessive amounts of painkillers, and when punch-bagged or raped women were ignored or pressured into silence, and when serious concussion was treated with nothing more than the chiding remark the total sissy deserved…

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    Ah yes, fighting in practice is a direct cause of bribery, roids, stickum, cheating, painkillers and rape.

  14. streetyson says:
    Jun 1, 2016 8:02 AM

    araidersfan says:
    Jun 1, 2016 6:41 AM
    I’m old enough to remember when players (especially with the Madden/Flores Raiders) used to get into fights during practice and then laugh about it later over beers. The fact that it’s frowned upon in today’s league has NOT improved the game from my standpoint.
    ————————
    Ah yes, the good ol’ days, when injury-bounties, bribery, roids, stickum or other cheating substances were commonplace, and when coaches forced players to take excessive amounts of painkillers, and when punch-bagged or raped women were ignored or pressured into silence, and when serious concussion was treated with nothing more than the chiding remark the total sissy deserved…

    ==============================

    Right, and because fighting during practice is now virtually banned from the league, I wonder how that’s doing in preventing the epidemic of the last 20+ years (which gets progressively worse) of off-the-field domestic violence, rape, PED abuse, DUIs, etc? Of course, role models like Ray Carruth, Leonard Little and Ray Lewis never had problems with fighting during practice.

    And BTW, the idea that the media ‘covered up’ for the players before the internet-era is nothing but an unproven myth.

  15. Wow surprise surprise. Damontre Moore fighting. Guy is a moron and will be out of the league in a year.

  16. Get you “jabs” in while you can hater fans because soon enough the Raiders are going to be beating you up, and that’s a fact.

  17. The Raiders are going to win so much you are going to get tired of it.

    DT 2016

  18. silvernblacksabbath says:
    Jun 1, 2016 8:42 AM

    Exchanged shoves = fight Since when?
    ————————–

    From up there in the article you didn’t read:

    “Offensive lineman Kelechi Osemele and defensive end Jihad Ward threw punches at one point. Separately, guard Jon Feliciano and defensive lineman Leon Orr exchanged shoves. Guard Vadal Alexander and defensive end Damontre Moore got into it late in the session.”

  19. That’s nothing. There were that many fights between Niner fans in the bathroom at their practice.

  20. I can just hear the alarm bells going off in Goodell’s head right now:
    1 – Rule says no contact during OTA
    2 – Pushing and shoving = contact…
    3 – Blandino .. Get my gun.

  21. I know how to stop this cold. Threaten to trade any future combatants to the Vikings. That will put the fear of God into anybody that wants a Superbowl ring.

  22. K O might be the toughest guy in the league, he could take James Harrison and throw him away with a little rag doll.

  23. Um, Coach Del Rio, I thought Raiders football was all about fighting and being undisciplined. The Raiders historically have ranked among one of the most penalized teams in the NFL. Sorry to say, old Jack, but what you saw on the field is Raiders football.

  24. “Offensive lineman Kelechi Osemele and defensive end Jihad Ward threw punches at one point. ”
    =============================

    Yeah, I’m not pissing off a guy named Jihad.

  25. one has to wonder if Al was still alive would a guy like Scott Bair even be allowed at the Raiders practice.

    Bottom line, pretty much on every play guys are throwing punches…..it’s aka trying to shed a blocker

  26. So, my favorite team (Ravens) gets penalized for some bs no practice in pads and nothing ever transpired with Seattle and now Oakland. The league is fixed.

  27. I, for one, am happy to see Del Rio trying to change the Raiders culture – or at least the perception of Raiders culture. I’m not a fan of the organization, but a winning Raiders TEAM that’s not alienating potential fans (or its own players) is good for the game.

  28. Kelechi Osemele (KO) used to get into it regularly at the Ravens OTAs.

    Guy’s a big, competitive, beast. You signed the guy b/c he plays with a chip and is an Alpha. Wouldn’t worry too much about that one.

  29. ravensfan56 says:

    So, my favorite team (Ravens) gets penalized for some bs no practice in pads and nothing ever transpired with Seattle and now Oakland. The league is fixed.

    _________________________________________

    Seattle lost OTA time and Pete Carroll was fined. This was just reported about the Raiders…even the NFL doesn’t punish that quickly.

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