Rivera fears sideline video will undermine coaching

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As the NFL continues to nudge toward the inevitable expansion of tablet use from still images to video, some coaches worry that the adjustment will dramatically change their jobs.

I want to get beat on the field,” Panthers coach Ron Rivera recently told Kevin Clark of TheRinger.com. “I don’t want to get beat because someone used a tool or technology  —  that is not coaching at that point. I work all week, I’m preparing and kicking your ass. All of the sudden you see a piece of live video and you figure out, ‘Oh crap, that’s what he’s doing.’ And how fair is that?”

Some would say it’s fair because the potential advantage is available to everyone. In the same way Rivera’s opponent can have a Eureka! moment during a game, Rivera can do the same thing. And Rivera’s planning during the week will include planning to make a Rocky Balboa-style switch back to southpaw at the exact time the other coach says, ‘Oh crap, that’s what he’s doing.'”

Rivera separately is concerned that using tablet video will result in the NFL doing other crap, when it comes to technology.

“Where does it end?” Rivera told Clark. “Can you get text messages or go out there with an iPhone and figure out where to go? What are we creating? I know there are millennial players, but this is still a game created 100 years ago.”

Rivera is right. But 100 years ago, no one was paying the NFL $400 million over five years for in-game product placement. And the NFL’s Surface sugar daddy surely wants to have its baby used to its full capabilities. Curiously, the conversation doesn’t make that connection. Then again, maybe it doesn’t have to.

“The coaching video on the sidelines is about [the] sponsorship with Microsoft,” one high-level team source recently told PFT. “That being said, we should look to embrace it at some point. Just come out and say it. Let’s not sugarcoat it.”

Rivera’s concerns notwithstanding, other coaches don’t see the addition of video to the tables as a major change.

“I think it benefits the offense a tick more and yet the information we’re gathering right now from the pictures is pretty clear,” Saints coach Sean Payton recently told PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio. “The pictures that we look at on that tablet give us a pre-snap picture, we get a post-snap picture, then we get an end zone picture. So you kind of have a good idea as to what is taking place and so just putting it on a rolling video so you can actually see it in it’s entirety I think probably aids the offenses a little bit more.”

Still, Payton envisions limitations on how widespread the sideline video will be.

“I know this, I’m never going to want to have a team sitting on the sidelines with 15 or 20 of these tablets during a football game,” Payton said. “So if and when that thing gets passed I think it’s going to be a small number, maybe two on each side of the ball [and] one for special teams.”

Payton also knows one other important thing: Adding video to the tablet won’t have a major impact on the partnership with the manufacturer of the tablet.

“With regards to marketing for Microsoft is going see any difference between a coach or player looking at photos or a coach or player looking at video. In fact, it would look exactly the same,” Payton said.

He’s right. It would look the same. However, using the tablets for greater purposes will serve only to increase the opportunities for the tablets to malfunction. So if/when (when) video is added to the tablets, everyone involved needs to be sure that they always work.

60 responses to “Rivera fears sideline video will undermine coaching

  1. You ever see someone drop their tablet or smartphone? They’ll jump in a tank full of sharks while connected to a 12000 volt generator to retrieve it. A fumbled ball in the Super Bowl? Not so much.

  2. Microsoft could spend $1B on marketing and people still won’t buy the inferior product.

    Friend works the sidelines at NFL games…says on more than one occasion he finds these tablets in the garbage … tossed aside by frustrated coaches.

  3. Ron Rivera: defender of hate-speech, and anti-civil rights advocate. ironic of him coming from a culture that is currently, and seemingly always, fighting for their own equality. A true Bigot is crying, what should we do?

  4. The new england patriots will be cheating in the future.

    That is an absolute certainty.

  5. Rivera is right of course. Eventually simulations will creep in that are indistinguishable from real events and before long, we will be watching computer-simulated games. It will solve a lot of the injury issues as no one will ever really get hurt. So that will allow the NFL to keep kick off returns. And although the game would only be played via computer simulation, the players of each team have to carry injuries as though really injured to maintain the casualty counts of the computer simulation. (Quasi-plagerism acknowledgement here… I admit altering text that describes the Star Trek, A Taste of Armageddon episode for more graphic discussion).
    But on the other hand, the NFL can add back hits and tackles to make the game more interesting as it was back in the day. The possibilities are endless.
    I suspect rather than the NFC Champs playing the AFC Champs for the SuperBowl, it will be the Microsoft Simulators vs the Apple Simulators. And in order to maintain the authenticity of outcomes, and hence ensure NFL owners continued income from fantasy football (sorry, I meant integrity of the game), all plays will be based on random number generators for each players.
    Can you imagine the possibilities. Games can be simulated to be played anywhere in the world. You would be able to answer those transgenerational questions once and for all ie was Joe Montana better than Tom Brady. The revenue possibilities for selling playing opportunities in games would be huge (downside would be Goodell would want to play quarterback for all teams and would select himself to be MVP every season). The simulation software is so powerful already, it would automatically calculate the loss in pressure in footballs played in Greenbay in December even if Goodell continues to refuse to publish the data collected. And adjust quarterback ratings accordingly.
    So Rivera is right to be concerned. But I think he has another 5-6 years before the encroachment becomes real. But if I was a big 10 school or something, I think I would start looking for a new revenue stream.

  6. Advances in technology are part of every sport. They make the games better, and the players safer. Should we make every tennis player use a wooden racquet because new racquet technology makes some ” average” players better than average?

  7. The reality is you can’t stop progress you can only adapt to it.

    Look at the music industry. The labels tried to crush mp3 technology when it came out and refused to go digital with their products initially. It has cost that industry billions of dollars as a result.

    Technology will continue moving forward and there’s nothing that can be done about it.

  8. So pretty much Spygate is going to become legal again if coaching staffs are allowed to use sideline video…guess BB’s only mistake was trying to use it when the NFL didn’t profit off of the company recording the video. What a bunch of hypocrites…

  9. umm, this contradicts what goodell said about spygate.

    NE never used what they captured in that game that day. no team apparently did with nfl personnel standing right there.

  10. Actually, the league CAN stop the encroachment of technology. NASCAR limits the technology used in the race cars to keep costs down and the racing competitive. The cars would be faster if exotic computer controls and engine management systems were allowed. The team(s) that could afford the most or best engineers would win with technology, not skill, strategy, and teamwork. Riviera is right. Let’s play football, not video games.

  11. I am kinda surprised he didn’t say he was worried about the Patriots hacking his tablet for an advantage.

  12. Bigotry: good; technology: bad. got it riverboat.

    and if Cam is just “scratching the surface” still, then get to coaching ronnie boat water. time’s a wasting.

  13. omgspaz says:
    Jun 4, 2016 9:55 AM
    So pretty much Spygate is going to become legal again if coaching staffs are allowed to use sideline video…guess BB’s only mistake was trying to use it when the NFL didn’t profit off of the company recording the video. What a bunch of hypocrites…

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    Yesterday you admonishing your fellow Pat’s fans to let it go….today you are whining like them……YOU sir are the hypocrite.

    Rivera is being a bit extreme here. Limit the number of pads and it will be just fine for BOTH teams than no one will be tempted to cheat like the Pat’s do.

  14. Get rid of clip boards with coaches notes on them, get rid of those plays QBs strap to their wrists, get rid of radios which coaches use to communicate plays to QBs, get rid of phone lines between press box and the sideline, outlaw taking photographs of the field, etc. Just turn the game back to sandlot football I played growing up.

  15. Do the Patriots get their first stolen first round pick for the implementation of this policy? And when will they get their other first rounder for framegate? The serial liar Goodell must be fired and apologize to all of New England for what this fascist “Leader” has done. INTEGRITY my arse!

  16. It just has to be an even playing field. That’s really all you can ask for. At the end of the day, all the coaching and technology can’t beat the better talent. Otherwise, all the players would be paid the same amount of money.

  17. ……it’s a typucal reaction from a older person who is scared of the computer revolution……don’t worey Ron, in a few more years you wont have to worry about it because some much younger & more progressive coach will take youre place……

  18. when brady sues for defamation after goodell loses again with his fraud appeal and pay off of chin and parker, get goodell on the stand answering about the lies of spygate.

    defrauding the nfl customer is illegal under us law.

    arrest, try and convict roger goodell.

  19. Isn’t this just the modern version of having a coach in the booth so he can get a better view of what a team is trying to do?

  20. I’m sure Belicheat will gain 500% more advantage with this new tool than anyone because he’s such a cheater. Right?

    He’ll probably have Go Pro’s secretly installed inside the hotel bathroom of the visiting coaches mistress’s just to see if coach X got lucky the night before.

    #Tinfoilhatfirmlyinplace

  21. “That’s not a coaching point.” Except when you use it as a coaching point, in which case every single coach should.

    You take a coach like Belichick: a guy who has been anti-technology his whole life, who describes in detail how he would draw out hundreds of meticulously organized index cards of plays as an assistant coach. Look at the success he’s had by embracing the technology available to everyone. Why would any coach want to make their job harder on purpose?

  22. doctorrustbelt says:
    Jun 4, 2016 9:51 AM

    The new england patriots will be cheating in the future.

    That is an absolute certainty.
    ______________________________

    Not as certain as the Bungles losing playoff games with the Red water pistol….

    How will Cincy celebrate the Silver Anniversary of the last time they won a playoff game this year?
    Or was that last year?
    BAHAHAHAHA!!!

  23. breadmeatcheese says:

    Ron Rivera: defender of hate-speech, and anti-civil rights advocate. ironic of him coming from a culture that is currently, and seemingly always, fighting for their own equality. A true Bigot is crying, what should we do?
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    Yet your kind is destroying property and punching and throwing eggs on people with different political views than you.

  24. It is ironic that Rivera is whining about this. He has perhaps the only quarterback in the NFL who doesn’t spend any time on the sidelines during a game studying photos of the defense. He instead stands on the sidelines and plays to the crowd, throws a towle over his head, or does the dab. He refuses to study and be a professional.

    Maybe it is not ironic. Maybe it is Rivera getting it that his QB won’t avail himself of anything that might make him better, and he wishes other QBs would be limited in their efforts to be better. It is also Rivera realizing that he won’t get to play the NFL’s easiest schedule again and his record will be worse.

  25. River Boat Ron also fears that live fumbles on the football field will hurt his plaYers and çcoachesthem to run, save their faces for self promotional endorsement. Camera Newton, highly talented, is a chicken baby that quit on his team when they needed him the most. Pathetic.

  26. Bob says:
    Jun 4, 2016 8:49 AM
    Typical Panthers. Whining about something.

    Whining, Bob? You mean like this:

    “Cam dances too much.”

    “Cam stole my banner.”

    “Cam threw my flag on the field.”

    “The Panthers took a team photo on the field.”

    “The Panthers were dabbing.”

    Unlike the idiots who made all of those statements, Rivera’s got nothing to worry about, but you can all look forward to many more moments like in the Green Bay game where Aaron Rogers slammed down his tablet in defeat. Then the Panthers haters can think of some more things to whine about.

  27. Play the game on the field!! If you want to do a tablet enhanced version of football do Madden’s game. The technology stuff is causing me to be less and less of an NFL fan.

  28. The begininning of the end! And it all started when Paul Brown brought a stopwatch to practice! The low down bastard.

  29. “You ever see someone drop their tablet or smartphone? They’ll jump in a tank full of sharks while connected to a 12000 volt generator to retrieve it”

    You’ve obviously never seen Cam Newton drop his smartphone.

  30. Someone posted that the Pats would hack the tablets. How about the team owner from Seattle that owns the company that makes the tablets.
    He probably has a a whole room full of computer scientists gathering info on trends, plays, calls etc.

    Does anybody think that might be a conflict of interest?

  31. doctorrustbelt says:
    Jun 4, 2016 9:51 AM

    The new england patriots will be cheating in the future.

    That is an absolute certainty.

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    EXTENT OF WHAT PATRIOT DETRACTORS KNOW ABOUT DEFLATED FOOTBALLS:
    After reading many online posting from individuals calling Tom Brady and The Patriots “cheaters” it dawned on me that the following is the extent of understanding that science denying Patriot detractors learned on the topic of air pressure.
    1. “A clown once gave me a balloon, and when I blew into it, the balloon inflated, and when I held the end of the balloon open, the balloon deflated.”
    2. “Now my lifelong understanding of the subject is that if you add air, then things inflate, and if you let the air out, things deflate.”
    3. “Nothing can inflate without someone blowing into it or using a pump.
    4. “Nothing can deflate without someone intentionally letting air out.”
    5. “No other factors can affect the air pressure in anything – especially temperature.”

    SOME OF WHAT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT DEFLATED FOOTBALLS:
    These observations are related to the relationship that temperature has on the air pressure inside sealed vessels. Smart individuals can recognize that a football is nothing more than a sealed vessel containing air. Their education allows them to understand that air is a gas and contains some water vapor.

    Intelligent people understand what the word “humidity” means. Smart people can also understand that “absolute humidity” is the mass of water vapor divided by the mass of dry air in a volume of air at a given temperature. Essentially, the hotter the air is, the more water it can contain. Rational individuals can also appreciate that lockers room contain showers and indoor temperatures would be about 70 degrees or above. These smart people would be able to conclude that those factors would result in humidity in the air and therefore inflating footballs in such an environment would ensure that some water vapor was introduced into the footballs.

    Examples of common situations that intelligent people can understand:
    1. If you inflate a basketball indoors in the winter and take it outside, you will later have to add a small amount of air or it won’t bounce as high as when you first took it outside.
    2. If you leave a basketball in a garage that is not heated, you will have to add air to the basketball if you decide to use it once winter comes.
    3. If you live in a place that has 4 seasons, you will likely have to add air to your tires when your cars tire pressure sensor indicates low pressure once the weather changes from warm to cold.
    4. If you put a sealed bag of food in the microwave the bag will inflate as air inside of the bag warms up. The bag will deflate some once you turn off the microwave. Science deniers believe that microwaves are magic because they cook without fire.
    5. A pressure cooker is a pot with a special lid that seals shut to stop steam from escaping. Liquid boils inside and the steam has nowhere to go while more steam is being generated by the boil – this raises the internal pressure. The rise in pressure directly correlates to a raise in temperature. After using a pressure cooker, it’s recommended that cold water be run over the lid to reduce the pressure inside prior to opening. The drop in pressure directly correlates to a drop in temperature. Pressure cookers have been in use since about 1679.
    6. If a small amount of water is added to an empty soda can and the soda can is heated on a burner on a stove the heated can will then contain air and water vapor. The heated can will crush almost immediately if it is subsequently placed into a bowl of ice water. (That’s some serious deflation).

    The fact that the pressure increases or decrease based on the temperature can be represented with an equation has stood the test of scientific minds since 1834. (PV = nRT). The pressure-volume relationship (part of the IGL) is even older. It is termed Amonton’s law, from about 1702.

    Those that were paying attention would understand that the football game between The Patriots and The Colts was played during the winter on January 18, 2015 and was played outdoors in Foxboro MA when the field temperature was 49 degrees. They would also remember that it was raining during that football game. Smart individuals would understand that those weather conditions would be able to lower the air pressure in the footballs of both teams. This was verified by the NFL half time pressure readings of footballs belonging to both teams.

    So far only The Patriots have been accused of “cheating” and only The Patriots have been fined and have lost a 1st round draft pick and are scheduled to lose a 4th round draft pick in 2017. Even the Patriot detractors know that Tom Brady is fighting a 4 game suspension. Patriot detractors probably can’t figure out that 4 games is equivalent to 25% of the regular season. Only someone that is intentionally dense could understand all those examples of things inflating/deflating due to temperature and also recognize that The Colts have not been punished and still not realize that the NFL is cheating The Patriots.

    All while 31 team owners are allowing this farce to take place publically either because the individual team owners are ignorant or are corrupt. Since none of the 31 teams are publically asking for the 2015/2016 pressure reading data for cold/rainy weather games to be released to the media then all 31 teams must considered to be guilty of cheating. A 31 teams gladly made their 2016 1st round draft choices before the pressure information was made public. As one PFT poster said “the NFL pressure data is now locked away in a vault with the Ark of the Covenant.” Anyone with a single working neuron would understand that one side is hiding exculpatory evidence. (That means the NFL is hiding evidence which proves that Tom Brady and The Patriots never deflated any footballs). The NFL would release the information if it helped make their case. They can’t because they would have to lie about science again.

  32. kamthechancellor says:
    Jun 4, 2016 8:56 AM
    Rivera later went on to blast antibiotics and the invention of the wheel.
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    That made me LOL.

  33. omgspaz says:
    Jun 4, 2016 9:55 AM
    So pretty much Spygate is going to become legal again if coaching staffs are allowed to use sideline video…guess BB’s only mistake was trying to use it when the NFL didn’t profit off of the company recording the video. What a bunch of hypocrites…

    Clearly a Patriots fan that does not even know what they got caught doing.

    Shortly before the patriots got in trouble, it was legal to video the field from the sidelines. Then the NFL said you could no longer do that.

    What the Patriots got caught doing was filming the opposing coaches signals. It was NEVER allowed to video the opposing sideline, their coaches and signals.

    Why do Patriots fans have a hard time understanding that? Why to they keep going on about how you used to be able to video from the sidelines, but ignore what they were video taping, and that it was NEVER allowed.

  34. lapantherfan86 says:
    Jun 4, 2016 9:56 PM

    factpurveyor: do you feel better now?

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    Pardon the lengthy post. I don’t believe that anything in the post is not factual. Any posts supporting The Patriots pale in comparison to the mountain of incorrect information that continues to be posted on PFT by dimwits making statements about “cheaters” or “Belicheat” or similar nonsense regarding The Patriots.
    Please see #3 in the below list that explains why more words are needed to explain the truth.

    The NFL was utilizing 3 sleazy tactics at once:
    1. Flooding the media with repetitious lies so that a herd of biased individuals would be convinced of guilt. Which then makes it seem that the person has to prove innocence. The complete opposite of the American justice system and other legal systems, which historically honored the concept of “The presumption of innocence”.
    2. Flooding the media with repetitious lies because marketing people understand that it’s generally easier to convince someone to believe in a lie than it is to later convince that same person to recognize that they were lied to. Once the lies were swallowed all the gullible minds were permanently owned.
    3. Forcing the other side to have to explain more complicated facts to a public that is not short on dimwits. On the other hand, “Broken phone” and “Deflator” were the simplistic red herrings that were spoon fed to dimwits.

    The Patriots having to explain the truth in this case meant a futile attempt at explaining basic science to those that either slept through 7th grade science class or were not intelligent enough to understand the concepts.

    Science indicates that the cold and wet weather conditions allowed the air pressure in the footballs to drop. No air escaped or was removed from the footballs. The pressure of the air that was already in the footballs was lowered naturally. It’s that concept that the many across the country are still unable to comprehend.

  35. We all watched your QB quit on the team with the biggest game of his career on the line.

    That’s your biggest problem by far, Ron.

  36. rootpain says:Jun 5, 2016 9:53 AM

    I agree with joetoronto’s 7:45 am comment from this morning. Especially after reading C@m’s nonsensical attempt at a tribute to Mohammed Ali.
    I don’t know if this is C@m’s attempt at social intervention ie trying to show kids that you don’t need to conform to spelling standards or following even the remotest English grammar norms to be successful. But regardless, he is doing a great disservice to the youth of our nation living specifically in economically deprived circumstances. They look up to Cam. And many of them believe that if Cam doesn’t need to conform then neither do they. But Cam is in a financial situation whereby he doesn’t need to conform. These kids, for the most part, will never be in that situation. I know what I am talking about. I live in one of those areas and am involved in the local school system where children such as this are the majority. And this majority struggles to stay within two grade levels before they reach 3rd grade.
    Grow up Cam. It takes more than giving a kid a football after a touchdown for them to succeed. How about starting by showing them that there’s nothing wrong with a superstar writing correctly.

  37. I wonder when a genius like Riverboat Ron will notice those huge megatron video screens in stadiums that show replays of just about every play? I mean watching a play on that tiny Surface screen just screams undermining coaching while those football field size screens don’t? Obviously the Panthers win on talent.

  38. somepeopleneedtogetalife says:
    Jun 4, 2016 7:59 PM

    Someone posted that the Pats would hack the tablets. How about the team owner from Seattle that owns the company that makes the tablets.
    He probably has a a whole room full of computer scientists gathering info on trends, plays, calls etc.

    Does anybody think that might be a conflict of interest?
    ——————————–

    Are you referring to Paul Allen? He doesn’t own Microsoft. He hasn’t worked there in years.

  39. Uh oh, Panther haters. More coaches have come out against the tablets. Hope none of your inferior coaches are in that group. I’d hate to see you idiots turned into hypocrites again…

  40. So let me get this straight. The owners pressed Goodell to over punish for Deflategate as a make up call for the lack of punishment for Spygate (that is if you consider losing a 1st round pick, a max fine for the coach and a fine for the team lack of punishment) at the same time they are in negotiations to squeeze more money from Microsoft to not only legalize Spygate but to take it a step further and allow in game, video viewing? What was that about integrity?

  41. jiminauburn says:
    Jun 4, 2016 10:19 PM

    omgspaz says:
    Jun 4, 2016 9:55 AM
    So pretty much Spygate is going to become legal again if coaching staffs are allowed to use sideline video…guess BB’s only mistake was trying to use it when the NFL didn’t profit off of the company recording the video. What a bunch of hypocrites…

    Clearly a Patriots fan that does not even know what they got caught doing.

    Shortly before the patriots got in trouble, it was legal to video the field from the sidelines. Then the NFL said you could no longer do that.

    What the Patriots got caught doing was filming the opposing coaches signals. It was NEVER allowed to video the opposing sideline, their coaches and signals.

    Why do Patriots fans have a hard time understanding that? Why to they keep going on about how you used to be able to video from the sidelines, but ignore what they were video taping, and that it was NEVER allowed.

    ———————

    Wrong. Wrong. WRONG! You have it backwards.

    There was never any rules about WHAT you could video tape only where you could tape from. Period. Never. It is still legal to video the opposing sidelines and coaches.

    What you are not allowed to do is video from the sidelines or any other “open air” location, or from the coaches booths. Also, you are not allowed to use in game film for adjustments for THAT game.

    What the Patriots were caught doing was filming from the sideline. The content of their film was not, never was, and is still not illegal.

    Maybe the haters should know the rules, eh, jiminauburn?

  42. I find it hilarious that prior to September 2015, most of the commenters on this site were barely even aware there was an NFL team in North Carolina, but 1 year of meaningless end zone dances, a botched Super Bowl performance and a badly botched play and post-game presser by the QB have convinced them that anyone employed by that NC-based team is more evil than any despotic dictator that ever lived. Y’all crack me up.

    Rivera is paranoid. But so are the other 31 people that have the same job title. They will all get over it and adjust.

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