NFL-NFLPA dynamic delaying investigation of Al Jazeera report

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It’s been nearly six months since Al Jazeera and the NFL intersected in a way far less natural than peanut butter and chocolate. The league office still hasn’t taken officially buried its teeth into the ensuing concoction.

Via Emily Kaplan of TheMMQB.com, the NFL blames stalled efforts to interview players implicated by the PED report on the NFL Players Association.

We have pushed to do them sooner,” NFL P.R. chief Joe Lockhart told Kaplan. “[The union has] articulated some reasons why they can’t be done right away.”

Lockhart said that the league has been ready to conduct interviews for “some time,” and that they hope to do the interviews before training camps open.

“[I]f we have to, we’ll do them during training camp,” Lockhart said.

The report allegedly tied Peyton Manning, James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Mike Neal, and Julius Peppers to PEDs. Neal, an unsigned free agent, told Kaplan that he wants to move things along, because he believes the uncertainty has influenced his status “heavily, heavily, heavily, heavily, heavily.”

Manning, in theory, could tell the NFL to pound salt (or sand — I never remember which one it is) given that he is retired. However, if he aspires to run a team at some point, it makes sense to find a way to cooperate. Full cooperation would consist, however, of giving the league appropriate documentation that would allow the league office to obtain all information from the Guyer Institute regarding treatment and medications provided to Manning. Records regarding his wife would also be relevant, given the allegation that HGH meant for him was shipped to her.

Full cooperation would be very problematic if there’s any truth to the allegations. And Manning could potentially be suspended from his next NFL job as a team executive, if the NFL learns of a PED violation during his playing career. The league office previously has declined to comment on this possibility.

Regardless of how it plays out, the lack of activity since the report surfaced suggests that plenty of people want the whole thing to just go away.

114 responses to “NFL-NFLPA dynamic delaying investigation of Al Jazeera report

  1. The NFL should just completely disregard any reports coming from this source. I would lose respect for the league if they gave any credibility to this agency.

  2. Bet Ted Wells name never comes up on these interviews. Been proven time and time again he is a complete homer for those who write his checks.

  3. The term is “pound sand” AND Manning does not have to worry about anything — his “cleaners” have already had full access to the records at the Guyer Institute. If they did their jobs correctly, there is nothing to find.

  4. “NFL P.R. chief Joe Lockhart told Kaplan. “[The union has] articulated some reasons why they can’t be done right away.”
    ———————
    That’s odd. After the NFL’s lawyers insisted they had to interview anyone and everyone connected to Deflategate, and interviewed several individuals multiple times, the NFL decides to defer to the NFL Players’ Association when it comes to interviewing players who don’t wear Patriot uniforms.You know, couldn’t the NFL at least PRETEND that they treat everyone equally? I know they have their favorites (the golden boy, Manning), but you would think they’d at least try to make it look like they try to be fair. I guess Goodelll just doesn’t care.

  5. The League and the Players find themselves in a Game of Thrones-type dilemma, united against a common enemy: The Truth.

    A Denver Super Bowl just wouldn’t be the same without an asterisk!

  6. “Regardless of how it plays out, the lack of activity since the report surfaced suggests that plenty of people want the whole thing to just go away.”

    Suggests? Now there’s an understatement. The USADA investigation is probably the only hope of ever finding out anything at all and even that probably won’t be much

  7. If there was a New England player involved in this scenario the NFL would have had every layer, private investigator, and former prosecutor working this case day and night.

  8. If it doesn’t involve the Patriots, it’s unimportant…

    Yours truly,

    Roger G.

  9. Imagine the railroading that would have ensued if any Pats players were implicated.. Integrity baby!

  10. Clay Matthews wasn’t tied to PEDs but Toradol who’s generic name is Ketorolac a substance similar to Advil (ibuprofen)

    Scary stuff that our athletes take. I can’t imagine why a guy who runs into other men for a living might want an anti-inflammatory medication.

  11. When the Manning led Broncos won the Superbowl, I thought, “At last! Denver wins one without cheating”.

    But alas, it was not to be. Another asterisk for the Broncos.

    What are those two words the Patriots-Haters always like to use? Oh yes…

    Forever Tainted.

  12. Until the NFL can test for HGH, penalizing players that records show have used them is a little unfair. Half of the NFL today could be using HGH and what are they doing about them?

  13. My grandpa used to tell me…”Son, where there’s smoke there’s fire”.

    Of course big head used PED’s. This is all just PR junk and big money involved.

  14. Charlecharger: The NFL should just completely disregard any reports coming from this source. I would lose respect for the league if they gave any credibility to this agency.

    You mean the Guyer Institute? Disreputable indeed. Which raises the question why Peyton Manning was being treated there.

  15. thegreenandcold says:
    Jun 20, 2016 11:17 AM
    Clay Matthews wasn’t tied to PEDs but Toradol who’s generic name is Ketorolac a substance similar to Advil (ibuprofen)
    =========================

    Toradol is an NSAID but it is far from Advil.
    On the undercover video Sly also said Matthews rec’d painkillers as well as “newer drugs to boost his hormone levels.” Anything that boosts hormone levels has to be considered a PED

  16. Why would the NFL want to spend it’s resources investigating a retired player? That would also harm the league? They should just quietly conduct a “thorough investigation” and announce they found nothing and the report is sealed. The NFL is good at conducting “thorough investigations”, so I’m sure they can handle this.

  17. Wah wah wah!! Brady, Patriots, H8rs!!! Wah wah wah!

    What would be nice is an investigation into the important question of when Patriots fans will ever stop crying like little baby girls.

  18. Wow – half of these posts from “persecuted” Patriot fans. Any paranoia there in Boston?

  19. Nope, Forever Tainted still only applies to the Patriots. The NFL has been testing for HGH the past couple of years, it’s clear Peyton wasn’t using them this year.

    “When the Manning led Broncos won the Superbowl, I thought, “At last! Denver wins one without cheating”.

    But alas, it was not to be. Another asterisk for the Broncos.

    What are those two words the Patriots-Haters always like to use? Oh yes…

    Forever Tainted.”

  20. Manning could potentially be suspended from his next NFL job as a team executive, if the NFL learns of a PED violation during his playing career.
    ———————-
    Why? They did nothing about Elway becoming an exec after his proven involvement in multiple, multi-year, multi-million dollar salary cap violations that helped keep expensive players on the team sheet for two SBs they might not have otherwise won. NOTE HOWEVER, that Elway was clearly aware of the risk because he kept saying he wouldn’t become an exec – making it tough for anyone in the league to push for retrospective action after he was announced. Peyton, just clarify and stop threatening witnesses’ parents.

  21. Why would a pocket passing QB need PEDs? It’s not like he is out there running from or running over linebackers. His job is to read the defense and throw the football. This story makes no sense.

  22. The guy went from barely being able to throw a football, to setting all sorts of quarterback records, and there are still people out there that don’t believe he was using the HGH that was shipped to his wife, from some shady clinic?

    That right there is what they call being in denial.

  23. Geez, if he made up this story to cover up what actually happened, it’s scary to think how he could’ve actually injured himself. Of course McFadden is an injury pioneer so anything is possible.

  24. Wonder how many SBs Manning would have won if he had intel radio-ed into his helmet pre-snap?
    Cause if Roger is gonna destroy ” about 4-5 tapes” ( actually more like 40-50 Roger smh) for his buddy Kraft after investigating and ruling on Spygate in just 3 days- just imagine how far Manning could have pushed the envelope on a field-tilting scheme like that.

  25. Well gosh and golly gee. Is it possible for the NFL to want this to go away because the report was from the ratings-starved Al Jazeera and that the report was also retracted? I don’t know but that could be a possibility.

  26. I don’t care how powerful the NFL is, when it comes to Mannings wife, under HIPAA regulations, the NFL can not even sniff the folder her medical records are in. The only way to do that would be to blackmail Manning by saying if he doesn’t allow them to violate federal law then he will never be affiliated with the NFL in anyway. If they do that, then Manning has a lawsuit of his own for extortion. As far as anything relevant to this investigation, the main proponent has already come out and said he made the story up and he and AL Jazeera are presently being sued. If thats the case, then the records can’t be released until after the Al Jazeera case goes forward or it jeopardizes the fairness of the Al Jazeera trial.

  27. Roger concluded that no patriots players were involved or were generally aware of any ped use by the 5 players mentioned therefore he feels there is no need to investigate further, he has been to busy making sure patriots players wear thier numbered jerseys during voluntary off season work outs, something far more important then steroids and cheating. Roger would also like to know that he spent millions on lawyers, investigators in going after the scientifically unproven deflated balls which he equated to steroid use and it’s clear that scientifically unproven deflated balls are way bigger of a crime then steroid use, #integrityofthegame

  28. Peyton supporters are pathetic. Nice trying to deflect back to the Patriots – yet we are the whiners?

    Its very clear Peyton used PEDs to recover and there is actually little debate about it. Its really not that big of a deal. Its certainly a double standard the way he gets treated, but at the end of the day its not all that important. Just like 0.2PSI as a result of mother nature is not important.

    And please stop with the “the guy recanted his story”. What we know is the guy did not even know what he was recanting, which happened a few hours after Peyton sent two guys to his house under the false pretense of being cops.

  29. Truth is all this happened while Peyton wasn’t even playing. Can Beady say that?
    __________________________________________

    Who’s Beady? Why is the fact that he was not playing important? If he took PEDs and then went on to break a bunch of records because of the PEDs, it doesn’t matter if he took them during or after the season.

    You Peyton sympathizers are pathetic.

  30. fritz96 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:07 PM
    Nope, Forever Tainted still only applies to the Patriots. The NFL has been testing for HGH the past couple of years, it’s clear Peyton wasn’t using them this year.

    ========================================

    and here goes the ward to the most uninformed and ignorant nfl fan

    hgh was approved for testing but the nfl and nflpa have never agreed on the process, not one single nfl player has yet to be tested for HGH. so i guess it isnt clear that peyton wasnt using them. they were probably for his wife who was pregnant at the time as many doctors allow for pregnant women to take hgh so they can give birth to a thirteen year old child.

  31. Peyton and the camera-loving Archie gave scathing and angry press conferences with promises to sue Al-Jazeera in order to pacify the sponsors. Now that he’s retired, the Manning brand quietly dropped the threat to sue.

  32. By definition if he only took them to recover from an injury, when he wasn’t even an active NFL player it wasn’t “enhancing his performance” You were right on your other post when you said it wasn’t a big deal.

    “Why is the fact that he was not playing important? If he took PEDs and then went on to break a bunch of records because of the PEDs, it doesn’t matter if he took them during or after the season.”

  33. mmack66 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:11 PM
    The guy went from barely being able to throw a football, to setting all sorts of quarterback records, and there are still people out there that don’t believe he was using the HGH that was shipped to his wife, from some shady clinic?

    That right there is what they call being in denial.

    ——————

    He returned from injury in 2012 and didn’t break any passing records that season. The records came a year later after Elway loaded the offense.

  34. Remember when you could read the comments about a PFT story, talk some football, and gain some real insight into the story itself? Without having to put up with a bunch of loser fan boys call each other names and spread lies about the other guy’s teams.

    Yeah, me neither.
    But it would be nice…..

  35. mmack666 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:13 PM

    Please! No way the Manning we saw the past few seasons was juiced, unless it was apple juice. Let it go!
    ————————

    Not sure where you were, but 3 years ago Manning had of of the greatest seasons of any quarterback ever.

  36. Sorry haters, but if you can read you can see that it is the NFLPA (the same that protects brady) that has put the brakes on the questions. Well, that and the fact the original finger pointer said he made it all up. Not to mention that AJ America is defunct.

  37. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:09 PM

    Why would a pocket passing QB need PEDs? It’s not like he is out there running from or running over linebackers. His job is to read the defense and throw the football. This story makes no sense.
    ————————–

    Because he was recovering from several neck surgeries, and could barely throw a football.

    It makes perfect sense, once you know what HGH actually does.

  38. Consider the source, Al Jazeera, and you know that it’s a lie. They are not an organization that can be trusted to tell the truth on anything.

  39. fritz96 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 1:15 PM

    By definition if he only took them to recover from an injury, when he wasn’t even an active NFL player it wasn’t “enhancing his performance” You were right on your other post when you said it wasn’t a big deal.
    ===================

    I think the argument being made is, without the PEDs, Manning’s career would have been over. So he used them as a way to get back onto the field. That is basically the same argument as, “well even though I used the PEDs, I didn’t use them on game days, so why is it a big deal?”

  40. The “Guyer Institute” go ahead and google it. Looks like a rather run down dark brown house/business. There isn’t even a hospital near by, no sign outfront, over grown shrubs.

    and yet this is where a hundred million dollar football star sends his wife to for treatment?

    The appearance alone looks sketchy…..

  41. The late, great Mr. Davis pointed out the Broncos cheating during their first two Super Bowls and now there is evidence that their QB was taking PEDs during their third. Sad stuff.

  42. jchipwood says:
    Jun 20, 2016 1:58 PM

    Patriot fans so desperately want to catch another team cheating……..Wonder why?
    ———————–

    Maybe it’s because when another team does get caught actually cheating, nothing happens to those teams, and they long for the day that Goodell actually shows some integrity.

  43. it is a little crazy that some of you are buying this story hook line and sinker, considering Al Jazeera initiated the report. Probably want to let the investigation run its course. And you should do a little research about what Al Jazeera is and who funds them.

  44. izzysydbas says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:32 PM
    Well gosh and golly gee. Is it possible for the NFL to want this to go away because the report was from the ratings-starved Al Jazeera and that the report was also retracted? I don’t know but that could be a possibility.

    __________________________________

    The report was never retracted. The prime subject of the story recanted what he said on undercover video but that was after Manning’s people paid him a visit at his home. If anything his recantation was just an effort to keep from getting sued by Manning for HIPPA violations.

  45. Truth is all this happened while Peyton wasn’t even playing. Can Beady say that?

    ____________________________________

    Truth is the smoking gun “deflator” text happened in May, while Brady wasn’t even playing. Can’t have it both ways boogerhut.

  46. BroncosCheatedTheSalaryCap says:
    Jun 20, 2016 2:10 PM

    The late, great Mr. Davis pointed out the Broncos cheating during their first two Super Bowls and now there is evidence that their QB was taking PEDs during their third. Sad stuff.
    ———————

    Manning peaked 3 years ago. If he were using HGH or any other PEDs last year, he wouldn’t have had not only the worst performance by any quarterback ever in a regular season game, but the worst performance ever by any quarterback ever in a Super Bowl game.

  47. jaxon51 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:29 PM

    Wonder how many SBs Manning would have won if he had intel radio-ed into his helmet pre-snap?
    Cause if Roger is gonna destroy ” about 4-5 tapes” ( actually more like 40-50 Roger smh) for his buddy Kraft after investigating and ruling on Spygate in just 3 days- just imagine how far Manning could have pushed the envelope on a field-tilting scheme like that.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Get in touch with Jay Glazer of Fox Sports, he’s still got the loop he played on a pre-game show right after the alleged “Spygate” story came out.
    Do you remember what was on that video?

  48. The media keeps this story alive solely b/c they want to protect al-jizzera and they want to destroy Peyton Manning’s name b/c he is a registered Republican.

  49. I’m rather confused by the Al Jazeera-bashing. Not that I feel any particular way about that news organization, but if you think it is less credible and more corrupt than any other news source I’d like to discuss several business propositions with you…

    That being said, did he use PEDs? Maybe? I really don’t care one way or the other. Nor do I care how Patriots fans feel about this or how non-Patriots fans feel about the Patriots.

  50. That’s odd, during rice gate, deflate gate and APgate the NFL went forward with their investigations with complete disregard of the nflpa or maybe the nflpa has such distrust of the NFL they tell all players to not cooperate anymore, especially after the Brady phone issue where the NFL doesn’t want the phone but you will be punished for not giving it.

  51. I’m rather confused by the Al Jazeera-bashing. Not that I feel any particular way about that news organization, but if you think it is less credible and more corrupt than any other news source I don’t follow. Is it because they are out of Qatar and you don’t like that? Is it just foreign-sounding? Are you functionally literate or do you just ‘feel’ like it’s a bad news source?

    Of course it can easily be criticized, as is true of EVERY major news entity. Of course the interests of the money behind it are questionable, as is true of EVERY major news entity. Al Jazeera America didn’t fail because they were unable to report the news, they failed because there’s enough 24/7 news programming that isn’t really news already.

    That being said, did he use PEDs? Maybe? I really don’t care one way or the other. Nor do I care how Patriots fans feel about this or how non-Patriots fans feel about the Patriots.

  52. shadowman1433 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 1:33 PM

    Consider the source, Al Jazeera, and you know that it’s a lie. They are not an organization that can be trusted to tell the truth on anything.
    ————————–

    Are you saying they aren’t “fair and balanced” like that bastion of journalistic integrity, Fox News?

  53. I like how Peytons name in the article is not in bold print like the other players. I say if Manning doesn’t cooperate then strip his records from after the incident. This sets the precedent for other players to have the HGH shipped to their wife and then claim medical privacy. But then Roger insists he can prosecute based on appearances of guilt anyway.

  54. If this kid comes out 6 foot 3 and a head the size of a watermelon and the shape of a light bulb, we will know that it’s more probable than not that the hormones were for manning’s wife. Why he would , being a gajillionaire and all, send his wife to such a sketchy place as the Guyer Institute is another story. Let me know when his liable suit gets filed.

  55. No, you get “The Ward”. HGH testing has been in effect since 2014.

    “and here goes the ward to the most uninformed and ignorant nfl fan

    hgh was approved for testing but the nfl and nflpa have never agreed on the process, not one single nfl player has yet to be tested for HGH. so i guess it isnt clear that peyton wasnt using them. they were probably for his wife who was pregnant at the time as many doctors allow for pregnant women to take hgh so they can give birth to a thirteen year old child.”

  56. Let’s be clear, the Broncos won the last super bowl in spite of Manning, not because of him. He was less than a caretaker at the position, had the defense not been so great, it would have been another Super Bowl loss for Manning.

  57. I knew 10 years ago the NFL couldn’t find a commissioner as good as Tag, but if you asked me back then if the new commissioner would be involved with jihadists I’d have said you were crazy.

  58. “Clay Matthews wasn’t tied to PEDs but Toradol who’s generic name is Ketorolac a substance similar to Advil (ibuprofen)”

    Nice try. I’ve taken toradol when I had a broken back. It made me literally halleucinate and I made them give me something else that did not radically effect me so. It is an extremely strong painkiller.

  59. If you told the NFL all the evidence on Manning/Mathews et all was behind door number three.

    The NFL would pick door number two!

  60. VenerableAxiom says:
    Jun 20, 2016 1:20 PM
    Sorry haters, but if you can read you can see that it is the NFLPA (the same that protects brady) that has put the brakes on the questions. Well, that and the fact the original finger pointer said he made it all up. Not to mention that AJ America is defunct.

    —–

    Note that is coming from the PR chief of the NFL. It’s a bit naive to take his statement as gospel, especially when it his job to make the NFL look good. The NFL has proven to employ plenty of liars at 345 Park Ave.

  61. The NFL spent 15 million on a puff of air and the haters were all for it, backed the NFL and loved the fact it was the patriots. Now you read these posters downplaying going after ped users and why the NFL should just let this investigation go. I guess it’s ok to cheat the game on the field with drugs but not ok with a puff of air in a ball. Hypocritical don’t you think?

  62. Manning was a shell of his former self but he did contribute to the SB. As evidenced by the SD game the team played much better with him behind center. His speech to the team the night before the big game obviously contributed as well. Combine that with his mastery of the line of scrimmage and the 2 nice TDs he threw against NE and deserves his ring as much as anyone. Then there’s also the fact that some of the Broncos best players joined the team because of Manning’s presence…

    “Let’s be clear, the Broncos won the last super bowl in spite of Manning, not because of him. He was less than a caretaker at the position, had the defense not been so great, it would have been another Super Bowl loss for Manning”

  63. revelation123 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 5:41 PM

    Al Jazeera America went out of business for good reason.
    ———————–

    What reason was that?

  64. I guess I have to spell it out for some of you. If you put trust in something reported by Al Jazeera. Then you put trust in terrorists. Congrats on that. Very American of you.

  65. So the players association is protecting members who might have cheated other members out of jobs and paychecks. That makes perfect sense….

    Perhaps the NFLPA should think about handing drugs testing and arbitration to the experts. The NFL has a conflict of interest and so does the NFLPA. That’s why you get USADA to do it.

    Right now it’s impossible to know if there is a cover up and/or who is doing the covering, since both sides have an interest in finding something and nothing at the same time.

  66. Ps. The documentary was made by Al Jazera English, not Al Jazera America. So anyone who dares could still sue all they want.

  67. I’m not sure that I understand this whole thing. It’s criminal if the allegations are true. I don’t think it’s up to the NFL to investigate. If there is enough basic evidence for a criminal investigation open it up. Otherwise, just let this whole thing go and forget about it.

  68. mmack66 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 1:20 PM
    mmack666 says:
    Jun 20, 2016 12:13 PM

    Please! No way the Manning we saw the past few seasons was juiced, unless it was apple juice. Let it go!
    ————————

    Not sure where you were, but 3 years ago Manning had of of the greatest seasons of any quarterback ever.
    _ _ _ _ _ _

    Probably because he’s one of the greatest QB’s of all time. Thanks for pointing that out.

  69. bullcharger says:
    Jun 21, 2016 9:37 AM
    I’m not sure that I understand this whole thing. It’s criminal if the allegations are true. I don’t think it’s up to the NFL to investigate. If there is enough basic evidence for a criminal investigation open it up. Otherwise, just let this whole thing go and forget about it.
    =================
    The burden of proof defined by the NFL can be found at the bottom of a cracker jack box. There is absolutely no reason to believe basic evidence for a criminal investigation should be the starting point based on the nonsense coming from the Commissioner. None.

  70. Manning cheated and lied about it and blamed his wife; so what he still stunk it out in big games. It’s not like it really gave him an advantage. I can understand why the league just let’s it go.

  71. “the analysis of the data is ultimately dependent on ASSUMPTIONS and information that is uncertain” (Wells Report at p. 12)

    Without the 11-12 NFL LIE, there is no investigation for Goodell to assert his & the Trolls’ ASSUMPTIONS and SPECULATION.

    Assumptions, speculation and opinion are what the poor Trolls have on their side. (Crybaby Soup from the Loser’s Circle.)

    While Patriot fans have 100+ years of PROVEN Science on their side.

    Assumptions = Pretzel Logic
    Science = Real Logic

    20+ Years of NFL Dominance!

  72. “What reason was that?”
    ——————

    They went out of business because Al Jazeera is the most trusty news source on the planet.

    I know that when I wanted a trusty news source, I turned directly to Al Jazeera. Didn’t you?

  73. And yet the majority of posters here run with TMZ reports. Where there’s smoke there’s fire, right? Even with the most untrustworthy sources?

    The irony is people still consider ESPN a reliable source despite that being anything but true.

  74. Its just great to know that so little is going on in Al Jazeera’s world that they have time to worry about American football.

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