Packers report record profit, revenue over last fiscal year

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Very little about the NFL escapes public scrutiny these days with the notable exception of the financial records of the 31 privately held teams under no obligation to share that information.

The Packers are not privately held, however, and their annual report gives us an idea about how things are faring in bank accounts around the league. You won’t be surprised to hear that business is good.

The Packers reported a franchise-record $408.7 million in revenue for the fiscal year that ended on March 31 along with a record $48.9 million in net income and $75 million in profit from operations. Those last two numbers represented 68 percent and 91 percent jumps from the previous year.

Packers president Mark Murphy attributed an 11 percent increase in local revenue to $186.2 million to the success of business at the Lambeau Field atrium and strong sales/marketing programs. National revenues — money shared equally by the league’s teams — went up six percent to $222.6 million, which provides part of the picture of the financial outlook for the rest of the teams in the league.

Part of the reason for the rise in the team’s profits this year was a drop in expenses that the team attributed to “a league assessment related to debt refinancing” and the previous year’s spending on the Titletown project near Lambeau Field. Murphy said he did not expect to see the same profit margin next season as player expenses appear set to rise.

“We have a number of core players with contracts ending,” Murphy said. “We could have a number of signings next year, and the biggest thing there [on the balance sheet] is the signing bonuses.”

Even so, it’s a good bet that the professional football business will remain a financially rewarding one for the Packers.

95 responses to “Packers report record profit, revenue over last fiscal year

  1. The Packers are pretty unique. But this just shows the NFL is unstoppable and as much as people complain about Roger, the owners are making money, and are thrilled with him.

    Now let’s bring that 5th Lonbardi back to Titletown.

  2. So, tell me why the taxpayers are constantly asked to finance stadium playgrounds for billionaire owners and their millionaire puppet players?

  3. And yet none of the “owners” will get even a penny of any of that money.
    So how can they keep on thinking of themselves as owners?
    They aren’t. They just like to think they are.
    It’s like Joe Sixpack claiming he is the king of his own castle which is really a trailer.
    They are fooling no one but themselves.
    And this is coming from a Packers fan.
    Hey, at least I didn’t have to pay 200 plus bucks for pride because having pride in my team is free.

  4. The NFL is the only place where small market teams can do that well.
    Thanks to men like Wellington Mara for their foresight to realize what is good for small market teams is good for the NFL.
    If Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder had their way, it wouldn’t be this way. They want it all for themselves.

  5. I don’t pay for tickets to go see my Packers play and I don’t pay for merchandise.
    I’m glad I don’t because at the way they have been blowing all those playoff games lately, I wouldn’t feel like I’m getting my monies worth.

  6. I kinda thought the intention of NFL teams is to produce winners, but I guess if you are into fleecing your fan base with paper stock to increase your bottom line and that is your goal than you have met that goal.

    On the other hand the talking heads are once again crowning the Packers the team to beat in the North. They base that on a 31 year old WR returning from major knee rebuild and a fat RB who apparently has lost some weight and will somehow improve on his dominating 758 yd rushing total from last year. He’s just 31 yard above half of what AP got last year behind a make-shift OL.

    Good luck Packers, you are going to need it, the Vikings are going to wipe the field with your has been team. But at least your front office made record profits…they didn’t spend a dime on free agency, but someone made some money. Did you get any dividends from your share of stock hanging on your wall? I didn’t think so.

  7. bondlake says:
    Jun 24, 2016 5:34 PM

    So, tell me why the taxpayers are constantly asked to finance stadium playgrounds for billionaire owners and their millionaire puppet players?
    ****************************************
    One of us doesn’t have a billionaire owner.
    IF, we decide to tax a portion of our sales, we do.

  8. All u packers fans talk bout how u all are part owners..which is just a play on words..cause if u all are part owners then how much do you all get of that profit?..because every business i know of all the owners get a piece of the profit

  9. Most of the increase in local revenue came from Eddie Lacy’s patronage of their food venues. I see no reason they won’t make that same money again this year.

  10. “Good luck Packers, you are going to need it, the Vikings are going to wipe the field with your has been team.”

    – Signed,
    A fan of a NEVER WAS team (0 championships) who thinks their noodle-armed QB can Dilfer the team to a Super Bowl

  11. As usual, the majority of the initial comments are from viking trolls.

    This year seems to be different, though… there seems to be a greater sense of fear and dread for the upcoming season in their comments. I think after their one-and-done playoff disaster (adding to their own league record in that category) and their poor showing in the draft and free agency, they’re realizing that last year’s division title flag was a fluke and probably the last sniff of anything remotely near success that they’ll have for quite awhile – especially considering the lack of talent they have at the key positions and in the coaching staff.

    Enjoy your annual self-proclaimed off-season championship while it lasts, viking fans… things are going to get real, real soon.

    At least you’ll have that shiny new Metrodump 2.0 to look at until ice fishing season opens and you can forget about how miserable your football team is doing.

  12. cheeseisfattening says:
    Jun 24, 2016 5:59 PM
    Most of the increase in local revenue came from Eddie Lacy’s patronage of their food venues. I see no reason they won’t make that same money again this year.
    /////////////////////////

    “When debate is lost, slander is the tool of the loser.”

    Still true.

  13. And yet when the next CBA happens, the media will manipulate most of you dummies into siding with the billionaire owners over the “greedy players”. Just like every other time.

  14. So by my calculations. The Packers brought in
    222.6M from NFL shared revenue (TV Deals)
    49M in Net Income and
    75M in Operational Revenue

    With a salary cap of 155M

    That leaves them a poultry 191M to pay the salaries of the coaches, administration & stadium workers. Facility needs and upgrades. And whatever else they need to pay out to bring shows to the stadium……..

    The poor owners are only making about 100M year in pure profit for their own bank accounts 🙁

    Makes me very sad.

  15. OK Packers. Now spend that money getting a better head coach.
    I cannot ever expect us to win another SB as long as McMuffin is in charge. Oh wait, he isn’t. Or maybe he is? Man, I wish he’d stop pulling a BrINT Favre and make up his mind who is. No wonder why we keep on blowing play off games lately. Our head coach has no clue on what to do.

  16. Here we go. Packers fans vs Vikings fans.
    How can any of us Packers fans somehow think our team is any better when we have been blowing play off after play off game lately? Reality check, peeps! We are no better than the Vikes.
    Oh. 13 championships? BFD!
    That is ancient history my friends. Ancient history.
    What has the Pack done for us lately? Nuthin.

  17. In Teddy We Trust says:
    Jun 24, 2016 5:33 PM
    Most of the local revenue came from beer sales.
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    You say it like it’s a bad thing. You guys don’t drink beer? Why not? I suppose you prefer kale juice or carrot tea? Figures.

  18. Fun watching you Packer fans squirm. Rodgers better strap that melon cover on tight because Zimmer and Spielmans wrecking machine is coming for him soon enough.

  19. drlightning says:
    Jun 24, 2016 6:31 PM

    And yet when the stadium needs another upgrade they will raise the taxes again for it. Just like the other teams
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    No, what they will do is hold another worthless stock sale and the suckers, um, I mean, Packers fans will pay $250 or more proclaiming them to be an “owner” of the team even though it’s meaningless.
    I can do that for next to nothing. Get a marker and a piece of paper and write on there, “This is Packers stock that proclaims me to be an owner” and it’s the exact same thing. The only difference is that I didn’t waste hundreds of dollars on it.

  20. Vikings fan should be happy that the only publicly owned franchise releases its financials so you can see what success (13 world championships) tastes, smells and feels like.

    And this gives you a benchmark. Simply multiply Teddy’s jersey money by GB’s revenue, and to gauge your profit, multiply GB’s by Cordarelle’s jersey number and put a negative sign in front of it. Or you can color this last number in red.

    There you go!

  21. Love the losers to the west talking smack about a 200 dollar stock to provide revenue to the team, while they sit there in their Percy Harvin and Greg Jennings jerseys that cost about the same combined. (unless they got the cheap ones to match their trailer decor)

    Packers asked for and received a tax bump for the last major renovations. It had a fixed period of time to be in place. What that time was up – they stopped the tax increase. Probably the first time a government easily did so.

    They also bought up a ton of property to the west of the stadium – no hands out on that or the work being done there. Progressing nicely as I watch it out my office window…

  22. skol4life says:
    Jun 24, 2016 6:36 PM
    Fun watching you Packer fans squirm. Rodgers better strap that melon cover on tight because Zimmer and Spielmans wrecking machine is coming for him soon enough.
    //////////////////////////////////////

    Are you describing the Vikings defense? The defense that finished the season only marginally better than the Packers defense? That defense?

    I guess Bridgewater better keep his helmet on tight and prepare for the McCarthy and Capers wrecking machine. It’s coming for him soon enough.

  23. skolkr says:
    Jun 24, 2016 5:55 PM
    So when do their “owners” receive the dividends? What a scam.
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    They don’t. It’s a souvenir. How come only dense Viking fans have trouble figuring this out? It’s not as hard as baiting a hook…..Jethro.

  24. packmanfan says:
    Jun 24, 2016 6:36 PM
    No, what they will do is hold another worthless stock sale and the suckers, um, I mean, Packers fans will pay $250 or more proclaiming them to be an “owner” of the team even though it’s meaningless.
    I can do that for next to nothing. Get a marker and a piece of paper and write on there, “This is Packers stock that proclaims me to be an owner” and it’s the exact same thing. The only difference is that I didn’t waste hundreds of dollars on it.
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////

    No, it’s not the only difference. Another difference is you’d look like a moron with a handwritten facsimile instead of the real souvenir, and there is no reason for you to prove that fact.

    We already know.

  25. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 24, 2016 5:46 PM
    proudly NFL owned and operated!
    /////////////////////////

    They bought some shares?

  26. Not too long ago, the high-revenue teams had to contribute to low-revenue teams to make things even. To clarify, the Packers were paying the Vikings to suck.

    Nowadays, the Packers have been doing their best to make the Vikings better by constantly being several spots lower in the draft. Still not working…

  27. Packers need a new stadium. With all the money they are making, they can do it. Stop playing in an old dump. Build a new stadium!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. Remember when the owners were crying about the CBA they agreed to
    in 2006? How the franchises were struggling under the new agreement that Tagliabue ” forced them to take “. So they decided
    to opt out of an agreement they signed and gave their word to.
    The owners then locked the players out and forced a new deal. Setting a precedent that’s it permissible for the owners to opt out of a bad deal but God forgive a player who has the audacity to ask to
    renegotiate after productive years of service.
    Fans need to understand that NFL players are not like baseball players
    who have guaranteed contracts whose exposure to injuy is significantly higher. Add in the concussion factor amd the risk factor is infinitely increased .

    In retrospect it is obvious that the owners and Goodell significantly
    changed the players share in the latest CBA. They actually lied
    As to the revenue status of the teams.,
    It will be interesting to see if the NFLPA can actually plan and execute
    a true challenge to the next CBA. I’m betting the PA has little or no
    chance. The NFLPA is a case study in how not to operate a union.
    The PA is not totally to blame. It constituency has a short and brief
    membership that does not allow them to leverage the owners. Yet
    that can do better than in the past.,

  29. All joking aside, I’m sure some will try to pretend like this is good news but most of us know that if you’re over 40 years old, you probably only have 3-4 more seasons to watch us be semi-competitive then we’ll be rebuilding for at least a couple decades through the firing of Thompson and McCarthy and probably a few other GM and coaches. We knew we couldn’t be pretenders forever. It was fun while it lasted.

  30. wow, packmanfan claims to be a packer fan in his first post, then posts 5 more times slamming the packers. What’s with all these new accounts by mn trolls pretending to be packer fans. At least own it trolls. Or maybe the mods finally went through and deleted all of ariani’s alias’.

  31. tritz32 says:
    Jun 24, 2016 7:57 PM
    It sucks being a Packers fan on this site. Every single post is littered with jealous Vikings fans. It gets old.

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    It only sucks if you ascribe value to the trolling comments. Would you get upset if a four year old with nasty unkempt parents called you a jerk as you passed by his house? Of course not, you’d just feel a little sad at the child’s ignorance and lack of respect, and hopefully have a little compassion, as you recognize, that he’s never gonna change.

  32. Congrats to them. I mean they are kind of ripping off their fans by selling them stock in the team that they cannot sell themselves. The Packers are a good team, but not a great team. I see them winning the North but being upset by another NFC West team or Carolina in the playoffs. That team believe it or not is actually lacking a true #1 receiver. Sure, you could say Jordy Nelson is that guy but coming back from an ACL tear won’t be easy.

  33. Increase in profits can be directly attributed to a decrease in player compensation. They got paid less because none of them showed up to play their last game the past few years. Especially Matthews, only earned 11/12 of his pay. (hint for numerically challenged pack fans: 5min out of 60 = 1/12)

  34. I was going to comment with some stuff but nyneal summed it up better than I could so I’ll leave it at that.

  35. I like that Vikings’ fans rip Packer fans for purchasing “stock” certificates, while the Vikings’ were raising funds by selling legacy bricks to fans from between $160 and $360.

  36. arealisticpackerfan says:
    Jun 24, 2016 8:00 PM
    I’m glad I bought my stock when I did! Surely it’s worth more than $0 now, right?
    ===============================

    Lol, do you people ACTUALLY think that when we bought “stock” we were thinking of returns? I bought it because what would Green Bay be without them? Yeah you are right…..it is in many ways a donation. But one of my choosing. They are not pocketing this money…..take a ride around Lambeau once……new construction with brand new facilities and stores are popping up. Why? Because of the Green Bay Packers. Pretty small fee considering the benefits that this community gets from their presence.

    So this I must ask you, what would Green Bay be without them?

  37. why are people so mad at the Packer fans being owners? we honestly don’t care what you think. we are fans supporting our team as we see fit. no one is asking for you to buy a share. so, your opinion is worthless. my stock means something to me. that’s all that matters. oh, and championships. but, you wouldn’t know anything about that.

    you idiots buy a $200 purple jersey of child beater, but we’re the fools, huh? ok. whatever.

  38. hold up. hold up.. do my eyes deceive me? does pro-football-reference list The Green Bay Packers as having the most 1st place division finishes in the NFL!? say it isnt so. all this time we were told the Vikings had more division wins. not so. the Packers have 27 and the Vikings… wait for it… 19. also a .568 winning percentage compared to .542 for the Vikings.

    facts. you can all mumble to yourselves now. hahahaha!!

  39. Aside from the inane comments from the championship-less Viking trolls, the release of this financial information is pure gold to those that want to understand the profitability of the the NFL simply because it represents the only verifiable data on income streams like TV money and merchandising sales. The other 31 teams are not require to report it and therefore don’t do it.

    For economists, the presence of a pro football team to a town of 100,000 people is a study in how much a franchise is worth to a local economy. And it NE Wisconsin, the answer is in the hundreds of millions, which is coincidentally, a higher figure that the fraud case against the Viking’s owners, mere amateurs at both making money and running a football team.

  40. Northeastern Wisconsin resident, Packers fan and owner of a $200 “certificate” here.

    Greetings to the 3 Viking fans who are, at minimum, 15 of the many Viking trolls at this site.

    Keep one thing in mind boys, the former President and CEO of the Pack, Bob Harlan … went door-to-door, personally banging on doors to sell his dream of renovating Lambeau Field versus building an entirely new complex. Picture THAT happening ANYWHERE else. The one-half of 1-percent Brown County sales tax to pay for County’s portion of the 2003 Lambeau renovation was retired last year. That debt was paid off approximately 4 years ago – those tax receipts banked by the County for upkeep of the Stadium district and the remainder returned to taxpayers. THAT would happen in one of the major markets? Yeah…sure.

    Additional renovations and land purchases in 2014 and 2015 paid for entirely by the Green Bay Packers.

    Let’s see… $295M for 2003 – half paid by the Packers’, another $150M in 2014 fully funded by the Packers. Sounds as the taxpayers of Green Bay and Brown County got a pretty solid deal given the economic impact of the Packers on Brown County AND the surrounding counties.

    Unfortunately for Minnesota taxpayers, they get stiffed for another new stadium costing in the billion dollar range, by owners who dream big as long as other people’s money is in play.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad the Vikes got a new stadium and all … keeping the Vikes in Minnesota is best for the NFL and the NFL North Division. Though not a rivalry equal to the Packers and Bears, having a team in Minneapolis/St Paul IS part of the mystique that is the Central/Black and Blue/North division.

    In short, cyber-dork-psuedoViking fans here … yeah, Packers fans will proudly support the team financially — PROUDLY, I say. We will gladly go to Lambeau’s Atrium and spend … we will happily go to the Packers Pro Shop and end up owning Packer paraphernalia, the proceeds of which stay local and generate profits for the team.

    We do this because THEY’RE OUR GUYS. Get used to it…we’re not going anywhere so you’ll have to whine from afar for the rest of your natural lives.

  41. The stock is not worthless!! It is not a souvenir!

    It is like all other stock except:

    1) No dividends are distributed because all stockholders agree the money is to be reinvested in the Packers. They love the Packers that much.

    2) The stock cannot be resold. That prevents one person from buying up the stock and taking control of the team.

    3) During stock sales you may only purchase limited stock. Again to limit the voting power of any one individual.

    To the proud stockholders, that stock by its unique nature has great worth.

  42. Parkman fan I hope I never have to sit next to you at a game. A real fan is not one that dictates he is only if his team winning.

    I love Packer Stock! It means I don’t have a greedy, seedy, owner!

    Packmanfan I’ll pay you five bucks to stop being a Packer Fan, since your so money conscious! Your an embarrassment.

  43. Each home game generates more than $15M in economic revenue to Green Bay and the surrounding area.

    This is a huge influx of cash for all businesses.

    Whether it be a sales tax, or stock price. I see the big picture and I am happy to do my part as it strengthens our local economy.

  44. All those jealous Viking crybabies on this post. Do you think you’d get a share of the profits if you were partners with Ziggy?
    Ask his former real estate partners. You’d have a better chance of child support from AP.
    Don’t they have newspapers or internet in the Cities?

  45. Minny fans have a QB with “minny” hands. Packer fans have a trophy case filled with “Bling”
    Maybe Minny fans can demand “Participation” banners! It works for Colt fans!

  46. packmanfan says:

    “having pride in my home team is free.”

    Yeah, your later comments show that you are quite a fan – of any team that wins all the time or maybe wears purple. Why don’t you and “arealistic” (possibly same troll anyway) get off the bandwagon, get in your little clown car, and drive far far away?

  47. Wow, jealousy is rampant on here. It bites doesn’t it that Packer fans are ready and willing to help their team in any way they can. All other fans are at the mercy of their billionaire owners. I am a stock owner and I knew going in you get nothing back from that other than PRIDE. All fans that bought stock knew that. You are all just butt hurt that you can’t be as close to your team as Packer fans are. So sorry you have to bow to your billionaire owners.

  48. Marvin says – Unfortunately for Minnesota taxpayers, they get stiffed for another new stadium costing in the billion dollar range, by owners who dream big as long as other people’s money is in play.

    ——–
    I’d say many Minnesotans are happy to pay their part, the same way we pay for schools, theaters, and the many other things that make our community great. That’s the great part about our country you can be content sitting in metal bleachers with your packer stock, and I can be content paying a little more in taxes to sit in a brand new billion dollar stadium. I think the differences in the stadiums and the set resemble many of the difference between the two communities.

    Not a fan of trolls on either side, and to be honest I typically stay off the NFL board because there are so many idiots, I find the NHL boards (lot less traffic), more my speed as there seems to be people passionate about the game and willing to have semi-intelligent discussions.

    Glad to hear packers are making money, love the rivalry (although I could do with a few less of you moving to the twin cities) hope it is a competitive rivalry for many years to come.

  49. I do have one question though, with the team making this much revenue, are packer fans completely happy with the roster you have right now? I’m not a big free agency guy, but there are plenty of decent gets out there, as “owners” are you happy your team just sits out the free agency portion almost every year?

    Please know I understand the value of the draft, but feel both the draft and FA have their place, just curious to get some honest feedback from the non-trolls out there.

  50. to getadealdonealready,

    Let’s see and look at the history-

    Washington has/had played heavily in FA-
    Philly had the year with the “Dream Team”-
    Cowboys make a spash in FA-
    Miami signs Suh-

    Meanwhile, the Packers primarily draft, with a rare FA signing-

    We make the playoffs nearly every year.
    We have made it to the conference championship several time
    We won the SuperBowl in 2010 (as the 6th seed).

    For me….yes! I am happy with th YoY roster.

  51. siuleno says:
    Jun 25, 2016 1:20 AM

    hold up. hold up.. do my eyes deceive me? does pro-football-reference list The Green Bay Packers as having the most 1st place division finishes in the NFL!? say it isnt so…

    _______________

    Packers are a much older franchise. Compare the number of division titles by each team since 1961, when the Vikings came into the league. Vikings 19, GB 17. This is mainly due to the forgettable period of un-success between 1972 and 1995. Ouch.

    …”all this time we were told the Vikings had more division wins. not so. the Packers have 27 and the Vikings… wait for it… 19.”

    You can change that to 20 in about six-months.

  52. You packers fans think you have slways been a great team..packers were irrelevant from about 1972 until 1992 or so..thats about 20 straight years of sucking

  53. to yessams:

    You are using the extreme cases for free agency, I’m just suggesting that a smart team would not rely solely on FA or the draft, but would mainly build through the draft and supplement with free agents.

    I’m saying your team is good and I wish it to continue to be so, so no need to whip out the team history book. My thoughts were more about for a team that builds through the draft the loss of one WR sure had a great effect on your past season. You would think if the roster was as strongly built as most say losing one player wouldn’t have that effect. I get you still made the playoff’s and won a playoff game albeit against the weakest team to make the tourney, but the loss of Jordy took an expected Super Bowl contender to a group that really struggled for any type of consistency on offense and the defense was a little better than the previous year, but has some holes to fill.

    The other note is you have had the privilege of having back to back hall of fame QB’s. I would say that has had more to do with the consistent playoff appearances. It may have even masked some poor drafting at times. I think the play at QB you have had over the last couple decades has had more to do with on the field success than anything else. Maybe your team will find that 3rd strait HOF QB to replace A-rog, but history has shown us that isn’t likely.

  54. fansince68 says:
    Jun 25, 2016 1:48 PM

    _______________

    Packers are a much older franchise. Compare the number of division titles by each team since 1961, when the Vikings came into the league. Vikings 19, GB 17. This is mainly due to the forgettable period of un-success between 1972 and 1995. Ouch.

    ====================================
    Also, a good thing to compare is the playoff records since 1961. Vikings are 19-28 (NFL record playoff losses) and the 24th best playoff win percentage.

    The Packers are 29-18 in that time, with 4 Super Bowl victories and 3 pre-SB era NFL Championships.

    The Vikings, of course, have none of those, due to a forgettable period of playoff futility from 1961 to 2015. Ouch.

  55. stellarperformance says:
    Jun 24, 2016 6:25 PM

    cheeseisfattening says:
    Jun 24, 2016 5:59 PM
    Most of the increase in local revenue came from Eddie Lacy’s patronage of their food venues. I see no reason they won’t make that same money again this year.
    /////////////////////////

    “When debate is lost, slander is the tool of the loser.”

    Still true.
    ——————————
    Still hypocritical and in plain sight.

  56. to getadealdonealready,

    I wish the Packers had tried to get ILB Danny Trevathan, but that’s it. The Packers have all lot of key players contracts ending after this year. I would say that the Packers get more hometown discounts than most teams, because the players really respect an organization that rewards it’s own best players first. We did add a field stretching TE this year, who is going to be catching passes from a competent QB for the first time in his career. You have to make the playoffs to get a chance at the SB. The Packers consistently do that, so if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it.

  57. getadealdonealready says:

    …I’m just suggesting that a smart team would not rely solely on FA or the draft, but would mainly build through the draft and supplement with free agents….

    —and—

    The other note is you have had the privilege of having back to back hall of fame QB’s. I would say that has had more to do with the consistent playoff appearances. I think the play at QB you have had over the last couple decades has had more to do with on the field success than anything else.

    ————————————————–
    Getthedeal:

    I agree with you. F.A. SHOULD be utilized more in Green Bay in my opinion – to what degree, I don’t know. If nothing else, to shore up the middle and bottom of the roster if you will. That was Ron Wolf’s philosophy when he was brought on to rebuild the franchise back in the 90’s. I sure do not miss the millions and millions that sat in “dead money” from the Mike Sherman era who didn’t subscribe to the Wolf/Thompson theories on building a roster. Dead money added to heavy contracts to a few “name” players set the Pack back a few years.

    Referencing your comment on HOF QB’s … sure, ultimately, the talent of Favre and Rodgers bubbled to the surface – but I firmly believe that Favre having Holmgren and Rodgers having McCarthy (both QB guys/coaches) had more to do with their development than talent alone. I’m convinced that these guys, in different systems with different coaches, wouldn’t be near the statistical machines that they are/were. I believe that Bridgewater will ultimately be a product of the coaching he receives.

    I said it last year and I’ll say it again this year – the Vikes are the team to beat in 2016 … not because they currently hold the North banner … because the Vikes have built a really fine coaching staff. A loaded roster is fine, but, without the right guy at the very top … anyway, it will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. That said, I say, “Go Pack”.

  58. frank booth says:
    Jun 24, 2016 11:38 PM
    I like that Vikings’ fans rip Packer fans for purchasing “stock” certificates, while the Vikings’ were raising funds by selling legacy bricks to fans from between $160 and $360.
    —-
    Vikings disnt lie to their fans by telling them they would own the team or facility if they bought legacy bricks.

    Packers take advantage of their fanbase all the time.

    “My time in Green Bay was like a 3rd world prison sentence” – Vince lombardi

  59. contra74 says:
    Jun 26, 2016 12:44 PM
    “My time in Green Bay was like a 3rd world prison sentence” – Vince
    Lombardi.
    /////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Wow, how desperate does one need to be to post a lie like this. The Viking trolls are getting schooled by Packer fans on all storylines on all threads over and over and over and this is how Viking trolls fight back? Pathetic.

    “When debate is lost, slander is the tool of the loser.”

    Still true.

  60. so, wait… up until this past year the Vikings had exactly 1 more division titles than the Packers? really? that’s the stat you’re championing.., hold up, wrong word. you guys don’t champion anything. lmao. the way you guys talk about that stat, you’d think you guys were up by 20. lol. don’t mention division titles ever again. comedy.

  61. tritz32 says:

    It sucks being a Packers fan on this site.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Actually, it sucks to be a Packer fan on any site at any time…

  62. frank booth says:

    Also, a good thing to compare is the playoff records since 1961. Vikings are 19-28 (NFL record playoff losses) and the 24th best playoff win percentage.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Another poster that doesn’t understand…

    As you posted, the Vikings have 19 playoff wins since 1961.

    Your Bears have 11.

    The Lions have 1.

    Not all teams make the playoffs. Getting into the playoffs is difficult. Of the teams that make it into the playoffs, all but one will end the playoffs with a loss.

    Playoff futility is not amassing losses in the playoffs, it’s not making the playoffs in the first place.

  63. siuleno says:

    hold up. hold up.. do my eyes deceive me? does pro-football-reference list The Green Bay Packers as having the most 1st place division finishes in the NFL!?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Well, I guess if you want to go back to the days of the NFL East and the NFL West divisions, that is true.

    Back in the day, the NFL East was comprised of the Boston Redskins, the Pittsburg Pirates, New York Giants, the Brooklyn Dodgers and the Philadelphia Eagles.

    The NFL West had the Packers, the Bears, the Lions and the Chicago Cardinals.

    Note that not one of those teams is west of the Mississippi River.

    Divsional play, as we know it today, started with the 1967 season.

    In that era, the Vikings have 19 Divisions Titles and 29 playoff appearances, compared to the Packers with 14 titles and 21 appearances.

    Sad that a team with a 40 year head start can’t match the totals of an expansion team…

  64. gtodriver says:
    Jun 27, 2016 7:32 AM

    frank booth says:

    Also, a good thing to compare is the playoff records since 1961. Vikings are 19-28 (NFL record playoff losses) and the 24th best playoff win percentage.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Not all teams make the playoffs. Getting into the playoffs is difficult. Of the teams that make it into the playoffs, all but one will end the playoffs with a loss.

    Playoff futility is not amassing losses in the playoffs, it’s not making the playoffs in the first place.
    ==================================
    Regular season futility would be defined by doing poorly in the regular season. Playoff futility would be doing poorly in the playoffs.

  65. Frank

    You can’t lose a playoff game if you don’t make the playoffs.

    If that’s what makes you sleep better at night because your team didn’t lose as many playoff games, it just shows what kind of sports fan you are.

    Most football fans like to see their team make the playoffs.

    You, evidently, prefer to watch other teams strive for greatness.

    Which means you don’t care about your team winning.

    I, personally, find that weird.

  66. Marvin –

    I agree completely, I feel your roster has top end talent, but from afar it seems like there is some arrogance (maybe stubbornness) is a better word when it relates to free agency. That your leadership feels that we will show you and only build through the draft. I just think that leaves the depth in question at times. It has been proven overspending on FA fails more than it is successful, but I think that is what makes me so happy about our future is we collect draft picks and sign 2nd or 3rd tier guys that fill a need on the roster. You hit it right on with the coaching aspect, and we finally have a staff that seems to get the most out of the guys.

    It does seem that things are pointed in the right direction for the Vikes, but that is the great thing about the NFL that can change in a heartbeat. I think the top of our organization is better run than it has been in a long time. Per this article glad to hear things are going well for the Pack as I have always enjoyed the Pack/Vikes games can’t wait to open a new stadium with those two squads that should be a great environment!

  67. gtodriver says:
    Jun 27, 2016 5:18 PM

    Frank

    You can’t lose a playoff game if you don’t make the playoffs.

    If that’s what makes you sleep better at night because your team didn’t lose as many playoff games, it just shows what kind of sports fan you are.

    Most football fans like to see their team make the playoffs.

    You, evidently, prefer to watch other teams strive for greatness.

    Which means you don’t care about your team winning.

    I, personally, find that weird.
    ==================================
    What’s weird is your conclusion based upon faulty assumptions. Logic is your friend, not your enemy.

  68. frank booth says:
    Jun 24, 2016 11:38 PM
    I like that Vikings’ fans rip Packer fans for purchasing “stock” certificates, while the Vikings’ were raising funds by selling legacy bricks to fans from between $160 and $360.

    _____________________________

    Frank,
    Vikes fans need something rigid and hard to throw at the field in frustration.

  69. packmanfan says:

    Oh. 13 championships? BFD!
    That is ancient history my friends. Ancient history.
    What has the Pack done for us lately? Nuthin

    ______

    It could be worse, you could be Vikings fan, whom’s FAVORITE team never accomplished ANYTHING other than a SB apperance, and Elvis was still alive the last time that happened.

  70. frank booth says:

    What’s weird is your conclusion based upon faulty assumptions.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Are you saying that most fans like to see their teams make the playoffs?

    Because if you don’t agree with that assumption, then there is no reason to continue this dialogue.

    The Vikings are #10 in all time playoff wins in the NFL, yet you and some other confused posters on this site claim they lead the NFL in playoff futility.

    Making that claim is the epitome of a faulty assumption.

    The fact that your Bears don’t have as many playoff wins as the Vikings should be an embarrassment to you as they had all those extra years to amass playoff wins.

    And didn’t.

  71. Vikings are 24th all-time in playoff win percentage with the most playoff losses of any NFL team.

    I suppose one could be embarrassed by a local sports team if they tied their emotions to it and validated themselves by it.

    If someone was like that, the Twin Cities wouldn’t be the place to be. With Cleveland winning the NBA Championship, in cities that have 3 of the 4 major sports (baseball, basketball, football, hockey), the Twin Cities have gone the longest without a championship.

  72. “In that era, the Vikings have 19 Divisions Titles and 29 playoff appearances, compared to the Packers with 14 titles and 21 appearances.

    Sad that a team with a 40 year head start can’t match the totals of an expansion team…”

    no, dude. it’s 19 to 17 division wins since the Vikings joined the league. and you did ziltch with your play-off appearances. and since when is wining super bowls less of an achievement than not winning any? you’re argument is silly.

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