NFLPA questions what evidence NFL has to justify PED investigation

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The NFL has decided to investigate whether five players named in an Al Jazeera documentary on performance-enhancing drugs violated league policy. The NFL Players’ Association questions why mere allegations in a documentary are enough to justify such an investigation.

In a statement released today, the NFLPA noted that the primary source for the Al Jazeera documentary recanted his claims before the documentary even aired. Given that, the union believes the NFL has no basis to question Packers linebackers Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers, Steelers linebacker James Harrison, free agent defensive end Mike Neal and retired quarterback Peyton Manning.

“The NFL has chosen to initiate an investigation of these players based upon now-recanted statements that appeared in an Al Jazeera report,” the union’s statement said. “The NFLPA requested from the NFL any additional evidence supporting an investigation of the players; the NFL did not provide any such evidence, nor did they inform the NFLPA or the players that any such evidence exists. Instead, the NFL has decided to publicly pressure the players into submission. We will continue to advise our players about their rights and hold the NFL accountable.”

The league says it intends to interview all five players. If the league’s investigation turns up evidence of PED use, the active players could be suspended, even if they’ve never failed a drug test.

56 responses to “NFLPA questions what evidence NFL has to justify PED investigation

  1. Das Furor Goodell has spoken. Those who don’t talk will get the leather glove treatment … lol …

  2. What evidence did he have to think the Patriots ball was deflated? An intercepted pass felt squishy, so the Indy guy sticks a gauge in the game ball? Isn’t it illegal to do that? Or was it the hearsay testimony of the whiny Raven and Colt front office that caused the failed sting? Either way, science has debunked the foolish Wells report and their crooked science from Xponent, or whatever the pay for result fiem was called.

  3. I can`t believe i`m actually starting to lose interest in the NFL as much as i loved it just a few seasons ago but their arrogance is hard to deal with.
    Starting investigations over media reports would open a flood gate of BS because the media is mostly BS these days. You used to have to have a 2nd source to report something.Now just thinking it and writing counts as journalism. If they fail a test for drugs suspend them.If they get arrested for drugs suspend them. If they have a media report speculate about drugs move on and spend your time and money more wisely and stop acting like your high and mighty against cheating as your cheating players out of money from a CBA that you agreed too.

  4. So each of these players should now hand Goodell their personal cell phones. And if they refuse, they should get suspended. For those who sided with Goodell over Brady, you should be happy as this is the way you wanted the NFL to be run.

  5. Man all you have to do is look at caveman “roid” mathews to know that guy is doping.
    Shawne Merriman 2.0. They start testing that guy and his productivity will drop like an inflated brady football.

  6. I’ll just repeat what will be said over and over again. Goodell has proven CONCLUSIVELY that the NFL doesn’t need evidence to convict anyone they want to convict.

    When are fans of teams other than the Pats going to realize this. It might seem great to see the Pats get persecuted for those haters, but eventually Roger’s egotism is going to focus on YOUR team, and you’ll FINALLY get what Pats fans have been saying for the last 50o+ days.

  7. BTW- the day Peyton Manning says publically states HGH wasn’t delivered to his wife, will be the day I believe he never took it.

  8. The way I see it, the more PED’s the better. I don’t spend 12 hours on Sunday to watch unenhanced football games. I want enhancement, and plenty of it!

  9. testing started in 2014 but gomer cheated in 2014 and this past year to keep that forehead upright.

    chinese roids imported by guyer.

    gomer ADMITTED the shipment to his house

  10. I’ve never been a NFLPA guy – still am not but I side with them on this one.

    These guys have all been tested multiple times and been ok.

    If the NFL didn’t catch them – it has no reason to believe they did it.

    Just because my neighbor claims I was doing 45 mph in a 30, doesn’t mean the police get to cite me. They have to catch me.

  11. They have massively more evidence than they had against Brady….the only difference is Goodell doesn’t want to find HGH use and is between a rock and a hard place. Brady they had to frame because the Patriots win too much and the whining owners (Irsay, Jones, Biscotti) and coaches(Harbaugh, Tomlin) have had enough.

  12. I’m sure there’s a joke in here somewhere about ideal gas law and the size of Clay Matthews’ head.

  13. Remember when everyone was pissed the deflategate debacle was dragging out so long… It was so the NFLPA could stop stuff like this from happening. But people didnt care. Sucks when its your team, doesnt it.

  14. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Just ask lance Armstrong. Time for the commish to drop the hammer on these cheaters. I would also urge the commissioner to take a long hard look at their respective teams.

  15. Since when does Goodell need evidence for anything? And even if he does, he will simply manufacture whatever is necessary to support his desired conclusion….

  16. How is it that DeMaurice Smith hasn’t been fired as the NFLPA President ?
    He negotiated this contract and it has bit the players in the butt time and time again.
    Goodell can do darn near anything he wants including punishment at his discretion. A federal court says so because it’s in the contract.

  17. People who beat up on the NFL for wanting to investigate over a supposed lack of evidence need only look at rhe comments here assuming that Manning is guilty. What is the League supposed to do, ignore the apparent? And if they do ignore it, and later it turns out there was something there, does anyone think these same posters won’t immediately jump to criticize the League?

    And yes, I’m tired of Pats fans who spend their life arguing how everything the League does proves it is out to get their team. Everyone knows Brady has had more than his share of favoritism over the years and that he whines incessantly. Just stop already.

  18. We don’t need no stinking evidence, we never have.
    But if you really want some we got our boy Wellsie over here. He’ll get ya all the evidence we could ever need. By the time he’s done it’s more probable than not your boys’ll be on the hook for Hoffa and the Lindbergh baby. Or they could just sit down with us for an hour each to make it look good. Your call.

  19. It’s “more probable than not” that PED use occurred.

    That’s more than enough evidence for Goodell to hand out penalties and suspensions.

    And hey, if the Packers and Steelers and Broncos want to appeal, well then, Roger will be more than happy to make a ruling on his previous judgement.

    I’m sure all the teams involved and their fans will encourage the players named to cooperate. After all, it’s the “integrity of the game” at stake, right?

    Patriots fans tried to warn you, months ago when you were gleefully brandishing your torches and pitchforks, that YOUR team’s turn would come soon enough, but you didn’t listen.

    Enjoy your Roger Goodell sponsored railroading!

  20. I still want to see before and after pictures of the “deflator” , pre diet and post diet

  21. Once again, the players names in this article are in bold highlighted text except for Manning. Anyone scanning the story will miss his name.

  22. The Truth says:
    Jun 27, 2016 8:57 PM

    I still want to see before and after pictures of the “deflator” , pre diet and post diet

    ————————————————————-

    I guess someone fell for the “Deflator” red herring. The red herring which persuaded many otherwise intelligent people to ignore science while being distracted by a single out of context off season text where “deflator” was mentioned once. Science no longer matters to those that were duped because they found a find a way to imagine a conspiracy based on a single word.

    Too many individuals became obsessed with arguing about a red herring that was intended to dupe people while making them focus on nonsense. “Deflator” was a single word used once during the off season. I believe that someone that has a job for 10 years which includes inflating and deflating footballs to get them to comply with league mandated specifications should be allowed to use the word “deflator” for any reason that they want to. Science indicates that the balls were not tampered with. So the part time locker room attendant that worked for 10 years at home games is irrelevant.

    It’s a good thing that Jim McNally didn’t have part of his job being spraying the facility for pest extermination and 4 months prior once referred to himself as “terminator”. If this was the case the same dimwits would be calling for Tom Brady to be convicted of knowing about a murder.

  23. These guys just need to man up and admit they used PEDs. And if they don’t, they should be suspended for twice as long for lying. Everyone knows they did it.

  24. patfanken says:
    Jun 27, 2016 6:33 PM

    BTW- the day Peyton Manning says publically states HGH wasn’t delivered to his wife, will be the day I believe he never took it

    __________________________________

    And the day I can see the Patriot’s video tapes will be the day I believe they didn’t cheat And the day I can see Tom Brady’s cell phone is the day I will believe he never cheated.

  25. The Truth says:
    Jun 27, 2016 8:57 PM

    I still want to see before and after pictures of the “deflator” , pre diet and post diet

    ————————————————————-

    Appears that someone fell for the “deflator” red herring. The red herring which persuaded many otherwise intelligent people to ignore science while being distracted by a single out of context off season text where “deflator” was mentioned once. Science no longer matters to those that were duped because they found a find a way to imagine a conspiracy based on a single word.

    Its a shame that so many individuals became obsessed with the “deflator” red herring which was intended to dupe people while making them focus on nonsense. “Deflator” was a single word used once during the off season. I believe that someone that has a job for 10 years which includes inflating and deflating footballs to get them to comply with league mandated specifications should be allowed to use the word “deflator” for any reason that they want to. Science indicates that the balls were not tampered with. So the part time locker room attendant that worked for 10 years at home games is irrelevant.

    It’s a good thing that Jim McNally didn’t have part of his job being spraying the facility for pest extermination and 4 months prior once referred to himself as “terminator”. If this was the case the same dimwits would be calling for Tom Brady to be convicted of knowing about a murder.

    Science indicates that the footballs were not tampered with. Everything else is irrelevant.

  26. Mob Chief Goodell has shown that no evidence is necessary for him to accuse and convict any player of anything he chooses. The NFL has become the most corrupt organization in the history of sports.

  27. This is getting out of control, the players are EMPLOYEES of the NFL. The NFL has every right to do testing on ANYONE they choose. No employer needs some type of proof to do a random drug screen. And yes, as an employer the NFL has EVERY SINGLE RIGHT to suspend brady for not cooperating. Im positive my company would fire me for those actions. Im tired if the NFLPA and Players thinking they deserve everything and are entitled. It’s ridiculous that a player gets caught on PED’d, suspended, then has the NFL pay the NFLPA to defend them and pay zero money to appeal and hope for the best. The players have NOTHING to lose in appeals. Its a joke. If your cheating, you SHOULD be caught, stop acting like ur entitled and your employer should never question you.

  28. daytontriangles says:
    Jun 27, 2016 8:46 PM

    if you have it on record Clay saying “PED’s should be legal”, AND his assistant in a text referring to himself as “the injector”, then MAYBE u have a point. Until then, ur a sour boston fan who is blind. And guess who signed the agreement saying Goodell can hear his own ruling???? oh yea, THE PLAYERS! Its funny how they give him this power, then when it doesnt work in their favor they cry like babies. Kraft has supported EVERY decision goodell has made the last 2 decades (including the ray rice thing- kraft was the ONLY owner to speak out and say goodell handled it right). Then Kraft supported goodells $44 mil/yr salary. Its funny how kraft thought goodell was so amazing at his job, until he was caught……..then all the sudden goodell doesnt know anything and sucks at his job lol.

  29. The Truth says:
    Jun 27, 2016 8:57 PM
    I still want to see before and after pictures of the “deflator” , pre diet and post diet

    Simple minds still can’t fathom that this was one text from May 2014.

  30. raidernation210 says:
    Jun 28, 2016 7:15 AM

    And the day I can see the Patriot’s video tapes will be the day I believe they didn’t cheat And the day I can see Tom Brady’s cell phone is the day I will believe he never cheated.

    ————————————————————

    Anyone still believing the “patriots win because they cheat” nonsense needs to just press the reset button and clear their mind of false information. Until they hit the reset button they will continue to be stuck on the single incident from a single game played almost 10 years ago, where a memo indicated that a camera needed to be moved to a different location within the stadium. Not a actual rule in the rule book but a memo from the same year.

    The film from that game was destroyed by the NFL so that no teams, including The Patriots could ever benefit by watching it. If the film was as important as you believe, do you think the team that was filmed would want all the other 31 teams to get to watch it. Destroying the film also ensured if The Patriots kept an undisclosed copy they would have risked having Roger Goodell over punishing them again.

    How do you reconcile in your mind that a film that was never watched allowed a team win 4 Superbowls?

    Are you normally allowed to look at the personal telephones of people? Are you also allowed to look at the private telephones of famous people? The day that I get to look at your telephone will be the day that I believe that you are intelligent.

  31. Convenient to wait until Peyton completes his damage control before investigating. Also, Why are all the players names highlighted in the story except Peyton Manning?

  32. Didn’t the guy who filed the original “story” admit to making it up?
    ——————————
    Charlie Sly said he made everything up right after Manning’s private investigators paid an unannounced visit to his family’s home. I guess that’s not suspicious at all.

    He also did this before the report was made public, so he didn’t know exactly what he was denying.

  33. Al Jazeera??????????? When did they become a reliable source for anything other than defending rocket launching terrorists? They have recanted the story and they are closing down their American operations. This is beyond ridiculous that the NFL would trust an Al Jazeera report. What’s next, will Goodell start investigating reports from The Onion?

  34. Just because the NFL didn’t reveal they have more evidence doesn’t mean they don’t. Why would they reveal anything to the NFLPA? They don’t owe anything to the NFLPA and are constantly sued by the NFLPA. Would you go out of your way to help an entity that is a constant irritant to you?

    Also, if you’re one of the players in the “report” wouldn’t you WANT to take drug tests to prove your innocence? As it stands now there is a dark cloud and doubts about those players in many people’s minds. Even though they could have stopped using PED’s months ago, they can take the test and pass and then start up PEDs again with a cleared name. And if they were never taking PEDs they can discredit the entire report.

    If someone accused me of something I didn’t do I’d jump at the chance to shove the truth down their throats along with a handful of crow. If someone accused me of something I DID do, I’d accuse them of unjustified accusations and be unwilling to dignify it with a response much like these players…. just saying.

  35. I’m a Packer fan, but I’m in favor of the investigation. I obviously hope CM an JP are innocent of the allegations, but if not, then appropriate actions need to take place in order for the NFL to promote the message that PED use is a form of cheating in the NFL.

  36. A lot of the comments are calling for the accused to just take a drug test. Thats the thing…they have already been taking drug tests and have passed them. The NFL is asking for a fishing expedition to gather more evidence, even though its CLEARLY stated in the CBA that the NFL needs credible evidence to require interviews for the investigation. In this case, the NFL has declined to provide the NFLPA with the credible evidence, and therefore the NFLPA is not allowing the NFL to conduct these interviews until such credible evidence is provided.

    I think this is a ploy to suspend players for not cooperating, because the NFL knows full-well that there is no credible evidence. Hopefully with the NFLPA acting for them, the NFL will not be able to play the usual fascist.

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