Eagles G.M. says they made mistakes when signing “guys who aren’t our own”

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Eagles General Manager Howie Roseman believes you build an NFL team by drafting well and keeping your own players, not by signing players away from other teams.

Roseman said on 94 WIP that the Eagles’ problems last year stemmed from going too hard after free agents who didn’t produce.

“When you look at it, some of the mistakes we’ve made have been going out and spending a lot of money,” Roseman said, via USA Today. “A lot of those mistakes were on guys that aren’t our own. They were guys that we’ve brought from another organization, and we thought we knew.”

Roseman didn’t name names but was obviously referring to DeMarco Murray and Byron Maxwell, two players whom Chip Kelly signed to expensive contracts last year, only to see them turn in disappointing seasons. Roseman traded both Murray and Maxwell away quickly after Kelly was fired and Roseman re-gained control over the Eagles’ personnel.

Kelly as a G.M. was a disaster for the Eagles. Now it’s Roseman’s turn to prove he can build the Eagles his way.

44 responses to “Eagles G.M. says they made mistakes when signing “guys who aren’t our own”

  1. As an Eagles fan I couldn’t agree more. Look at teams with sustained success, Packers, Steelers, Patriots, and a couple of others, they may be bring in a Free Agent here and there to plug a hole with a lower priced vet, but never splurge.

    But, we can’t just reference Chip Kelly here, Howie was responsible for the “Dream Team” free agent frenzy. I hope he sticks to his new found strategy, definitely like where the money has gone this offseason.

  2. Didn’t this guy oversee the massive spending after the 2010 season when he was the actual (not the de facto) GM to assemble the “Dream Team? Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Vince Young, Jason Babin, DRC, Evan Mathis, etc.

  3. From the guy who built the dream team, and then this year spent a few bucks on Rodney McLeod and Brandon Brooks.

  4. Many are under the assumption that throwing a lot of money at a particular issue will solve that issue,… not so.

    We must understand that often times it’s not the quantity but the quality of a thing that makes the greatest difference.

    To acquire quality there’s no ‘quick fix’, it’s slow churned, requiring a greater degree of care in order to produce a more durable and lasting effect.

  5. Oh and the Broncoes and Patriots do very well bringing in players. The common denominator in football is not WHERE you get the players it is HOW you EVALUATE them. There is no template for success.

  6. Howie may have been the GM at the time the Eagles signed all of the high priced free agents that was supposed to be the dream team, but it was actually Andy Reid that called all of the shots.

    Reid had total control over all decisions, Howie only worked the money and contracts.

  7. “Look at teams with sustained success, Packers, Steelers, Patriots, and a couple of others, they may be bring in a Free Agent here and there to plug a hole with a lower priced vet, but never splurge.”
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    Of all teams, I think the Patriots sign MORE free agents than any other team, by far. Every year, they are always signing other teams aging vets and trash, trying to coach them up to be productive in their system. Why do they always get a pass and referred as a team that grows their own team through the draft?

  8. Packers, Steelers and Patriots have had a lot of success doing it that way but they also have Rodgers, Roethlisberger and Brady.

  9. Do those teams usually give up 2 years worth of draft picks for a QB whose never played an NFL snap and might not even be good enough to take one his rookie year. Nothing wrong with time to develop but wentz is basically 2 first round picks andb2 second round picks I believe so he has a lot of production to make up for

  10. Yes, you can say Howie was responsible for the “Dream Team” spending. Between then and last year’s spending, perhaps, just maybe, he has learned a thing or two?

    Crossing my fingers that he has.

  11. I agree with his assessment but you would have a hard time getting any of the Viking fans to agree. They just signed a boatload of FA’s to address their various weaknesses and they are convinced a Superbowl is in their future.

    Well actually it is if you consider that Minneapolis is hosting the 2017 Superbowl where the Viking players could actually attend assuming that year’s version on their head coach didn’t already scalp the tickets.

  12. The other implication here is that they also lost a few of “their own” in Jeremy Maclin, DeSean Jackson, and LeSean McCoy. Put those pieces back on the roster and maybe last season wouldn’t have been the trainwreck that it was.

    Hell, maybe even keeping Nick Foles would’ve made for a more consistent season.

  13. Big Blue On You says:
    Jun 30, 2016 8:24 AM
    “Look at teams with sustained success, Packers, Steelers, Patriots, and a couple of others, they may be bring in a Free Agent here and there to plug a hole with a lower priced vet, but never splurge.”
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    Of all teams, I think the Patriots sign MORE free agents than any other team, by far. Every year, they are always signing other teams aging vets and trash, trying to coach them up to be productive in their system. Why do they always get a pass and referred as a team that grows their own team through the draft?
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    The point of the original post was as a rule they do not splurge in FA. Other than the one year rental of Revis the last ‘name’ FA they signed for serious money was the disaster known as Adalius Thomas. Who gives them a pass as a homegrown team? As you said yourself they are always working the roster bringing in 3rd and 4th tier guys and castoffs, it’s a common topic of chatter

  14. oh yeah that’ll fix it.
    With the first pick of the 2017 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select ….

  15. Roseman can manage the cap but his talent evaluation is terrible. This is the guy who drafted fireman Danny Watkins in the 1st round. Passed on Earl Thomas in the draft in favor of Brandon Graham – who still isn’t a starter – and finished up his first tenure as GM by drafting Marcus Smith as his last 1st rounder. He’s f’ing terrible at talent evaluation. Awful!

    Now it’s Wentz. What did Howie learn?

  16. If you build through the draft, why did this guy trade all of his draft picks for a QB that he didn’t really need and who may or may not turn out to be any good?

  17. It was Joe Banner who was calling the shots during the “Dream Team’ off season. Howie was the GM only in title.

  18. “If you build through the draft, why did this guy trade all of his draft picks for a QB that he didn’t really need and who may or may not turn out to be any good?”

    Didn’t need? You think Sam Bradford is the answer?? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’d rather someone take a chance on a potential stud like Wentz than go into another year knowing 8-8 is the best we can do with Bradford at the helm.

  19. The point of the original post was as a rule they do not splurge in FA. Other than the one year rental of Revis the last ‘name’ FA they signed for serious money was the disaster known as Adalius Thomas. Who gives them a pass as a homegrown team? As you said yourself they are always working the roster bringing in 3rd and 4th tier guys and castoffs, it’s a common topic of chatter
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    Randy Moss!!

  20. @harissonhits2 says:
    Jun 30, 2016 8:05 AM

    5: Dallas
    4: NYG
    3: Redskins

    0: Philly

    Guess what those numbers mean?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  21. @@harissonhits2 says:
    Jun 30, 2016 8:05 AM

    5: Dallas
    4: NYG
    3: Redskins

    0: Philly

    Guess what those numbers mean?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    How many consecutive seasons Philly has swept those teams!

  22. Of course if you can pick up new starters by trading a pick and still pick up the best lineman in the draft, you’re not spending money. Maxwell and Alonso look like they’re back to there old form in a new defense, along with Tunsil making for a greatly improved o-line.

  23. Didn’t need? You think Sam Bradford is the answer?? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’d rather someone take a chance on a potential stud like Wentz than go into another year knowing 8-8 is the best we can do with Bradford at the helm.
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    What about Wentz screams “potential stud” to you? History says there is an even money chance that he is an outright bust. How often do you think Brady’s, Roethlisberger’s, Manning’s, Luck’s and Brees are drafted? Maybe 5-6 times in the last 20 years. Just because you draft a guy high and trade all your picks for him that doesn’t make him good.

    No question Bradford is not an elite QB, but elite QB’s don’t grow on trees and your GM just gave him 17 mil. You can get to the superbowl with an average QB and continuity, but probably not by trading all your draft picks for a roll of the dice.

    I’ve become convinced that Eagles fans are pretty much the dumbest fans in all of football. They actually cheer these dumb, desperate, backward moves.

  24. “When you look at it, some of the mistakes we’ve made have been going out and spending a lot of money,” Roseman said, via USA Today.

    Chase Daniels… paging Chase Daniels on line one…

  25. Except the Broncos just won a Superbowl that way Howie….how many Superbowls have the Eagles won?…

  26. jchipwood says:
    Jun 30, 2016 7:25 AM
    He’ll be fired in two years. To give up as much as they did for a qb who played FCS football is ridiculous.
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    Yes. If you’re going to give up that much, it has to be for USC, Ohio State, Alabama, etc etc guys. Because their QBs are always guaranteed successes.

  27. Please tell me how they can grow their own when they don’t have any draft picks because they traded them all away. Great logic, there, bud!

  28. “Please tell me how they can grow their own when they don’t have any draft picks because they traded them all away. Great logic, there, bud!”

    Traded them all away? They essentially traded a 1st round in next years draft, and 2nd in the 2018 draft. That’s two picks.

  29. I love how people blame Murray and Maxwell for the so called off years they had. Both of these players were great players before they had the misfortune of going to Philly and playing for that idiot Chip Kelly. Watch as these players will again flourish under better coaches who actually know how to use and get the most out of these players. And watch how Chip Kelly completely ruins SF.

  30. Actually, Andy Reid was the power behind the throne on the Dream Team deals. Howie was a powerless standby who had to do the bidding of Reid who held the dual titles of Head Coach/Executive Vice-President of Player Personnel.

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