All teams must now give 24 balls to the referee for pregame testing

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The #DeflateGate saga continues to percolate in the court system, and it continues to influence the rule book.

Rule 2, Section 2 quietly has been revised to alter the pregame procedures regarding the submission of footballs for PSI testing. Previously, each team was required to make 12 balls available for pregame testing two hours and 15 minutes before kickoff. The home team also was required to make 12 backup balls available for testing in all stadiums, and the visiting teams was permitted to bring 12 balls for pregame testing at game played in outdoor stadiums only.

As revised, Rule 2, Section 2 now requires all teams in all games to give 12 primary balls and 12 backup balls to the referee no later than 2 hours and 30 minutes before kickoff.

It’s unclear why the change was made. It’s possibly a byproduct of random in-game PSI checks, which take the primary balls out of service and require teams to use their backup balls. For indoor games or outdoor games at which the visiting team didn’t choose to bring 12 backup balls, the 12 backup balls brought by the home team become the only balls used, by both teams, for the rest of the game.

None of this changes the fact that the NFL has opted to conceal all information generated last year regarding the process of randomly checking PSI, other than to declare that no violations were found. The league surely has opted to tiptoe around these details because full transparency would result in an admission that, yes, football were used (and routinely are used) with PSI levels below 12.5, given the operation of the Ideal Gas Law.

There’s also a chance that the numbers measured at games played in particularly cold conditions showed PSI numbers even lower than those measured in the New England footballs from the playoff game that pushed this issue into the public consciousness.

66 responses to “All teams must now give 24 balls to the referee for pregame testing

  1. I’m no scientist. Can someone explain the Ideal Gas Law and specifically how it pertains to taking a bag of balls into a bathroom after the balls were measured, calling yourself “Deflator”, and routinely destroying your cell phone?

  2. It doesn’t matter what the NFL or their rules state – they will do whatever they want to control the story so it supports their desired conclusions. There is zero transparency, accountability, and INTEGRITY when it comes to Goodell and NFL management.

    They never released the PSI info from last year, and Dean Blandino confirmed that they did record the data which contradicts what Goodell says:

    “We did spot checks throughout the year, and we measured PSI levels and recorded that information,” Blandino said, per The Boston Globe. “So right now, we’re evaluating the information.

  3. We never heard the outcome of the testing the league did this year. Right or wrong, it implies they have something to hide.

  4. Why do the teams get to put there mits on the footballs. How is this for a radical idea. Balls get delivered to the officials pre game and that’s it. Bang problem solved.

  5. There’s also a chance that the numbers measured at games played in particularly cold conditions showed PSI numbers even lower than those measured in the New England footballs from the playoff game that pushed this issue into the public consciousness.
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    a chance?
    Like a really good chance cuz you know, laws of the universe.

  6. Or, could it be that the league wanted a larger sample size to evaluate? In scientific studies, the larger the sample size, the more accurate the results. Naw, that would be admitting that the NFL would be trying to get the best analysis and that would not fit the conspiracy theories.

    The best solution would be to eliminate one of the Brady rules and make both teams use the same balls. Inflate all balls to 13# pre-game and have the qbs deal with it, then, it would be a level playing field like it was pre-Brady.

  7. There’s no question among educated people that footballs were in play last season [and all seasons]
    that measured lower than the Patriots AND Colts footballs which fell below regulation 12.5 PSI during the AFC championship game.

  8. A did you have your toilet cam in the can? So you know he did not take a wiz. B Routinely? That means it is common practice for TB to destroy his phones. So then this was’t an evasive act.

  9. willycents says:
    Jul 10, 2016 2:41 PM
    Or, could it be that the league wanted a larger sample size to evaluate? In scientific studies, the larger the sample size, the more accurate the results. Naw, that would be admitting that the NFL would be trying to get the best analysis and that would not fit the conspiracy theories.

    The best solution would be to eliminate one of the Brady rules and make both teams use the same balls. Inflate all balls to 13# pre-game and have the qbs deal with it, then, it would be a level playing field like it was pre-Brady.
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    Now that comment is just foolish….. The LEAGUE could EASILY have had a much larger sample size to get more accurate results by testing ALL BALLS from ALL GAMES last year but THEY CHOSE to only do RANDOM TESTS…. Obviously they didn’t like what they found out so as THEY CHOSE NOT to PUBLISH the RESULTS…..it’s the LEAGUE that has FAILED to show TRANSPARITY & LACKS INTEGRITY on this matter from the START of this FARCE that should NOW be known as #FRAMEGATE!!!!

  10. Tires in cold weather lose psi and so do footballs. On the box Wilson sporting goods sends that holds the balls state ball psi may be affected by inclement weather. The only people that didn’t know this were the dummies in the NFL office and of course the haters who can’t give proper credit to the team with the most wins in the last 15 years.

  11. Oh and by the way no hater nor the NFL has answered these questions
    A. Did you know the Colts checked the Pats game ball then handed it over to Walt Anderson?
    You do know that is illegal no team can check another teams equipment during the game?
    B 2 gauges were used to check the Colts balls one of those gauges had 3 of 4 Colts balls being under
    can you explain that anyone? anyone?

  12. Besides EXPONENT whom Wells used & the LEAGUE PAID to get the results it NEEDED to reach a con clusion of MORE PROBABLE THAN NOT outcome, why has not even 1 other SCIENTIFIC entity come out in SUPPORT of the findings of exponent or the wells report the way it has on behalf of BRADY & his LEGAL TEAM?
    It’s pretty simple… ANY RERUATABLE & QUALIFIED SCIENTIFIC research facility ALREADY KNOWS what EVERYONE which at least 1/2 a BRAIN STEM understands…..NO TAMPERING OCCURED!!!
    …….The LEAGUE went too far too fast & now it has no choice but to follow thru with this SHAM…..the LEAGUE has NOW tried to move away from the logic of the science & spin this as a CBA POWER ENTITLEMENT……thus allowing them to do whatever it wishes to whomever it wishes be it fair or unfair without any repercussion on its behalf!!!!

  13. I don’t understand why you keep going on about this. You could easily test it yourself. You could test it at any number of HS or college games. You could have all the data you want in a matter of weeks.

    But instead you insist on going the data-less conspiracy route with these stories.

  14. The NFL clearly stated why they implemented the rule as well as why they did not reveal the measurements. And in the case of Deflategate, the NFL clearly had other supporting evidence such as the texts, the lies, the communications and the gem, Brady’s cell phone destruction.

  15. 24 game balls per team??? People, please think of the pigs that give their skin for these footballs. (And before the knowitalls chime in, yes, i know that it’s actually cow hide).

    Seriously though, the fact that the NFL still hasn’t (and never will) release their data from last season is one more example of what an abject farce this league is and why my interest continues to wane each year.

  16. The NFL can never lose, unfortunately like Hyman Roth said “We’re bigger than US Steel”. Keep dishing out the cash fans, it will always be the same.

  17. Looks like Professor Belichick schooled the rest of the league again.

    And by the way, Ernie Adams is going through your team’s playbook right now on a beach somewhere, just shaking his head and laughing.

  18. At this point, anyone who still thinks Brady or the ball boys tampered with the balls is a pathetic crybaby loser. It’s not even difficult science or math.

  19. Then how do you explain Farve being evasive and losing his phone during an investigation and he was only fined?
    How do you explain Wells saying I don’t need the phone just the texts. He got that it was Goodell who insisted on the phone.
    Yet during an FBI investigation he would not give up his phone citing expectation of privacy. He was only a witness not a suspect.

  20. Framegate, I like it. I think we all should start using that instead of deflategate. If Tom Brady likes the ball to be a little bit smaller around, I think I can help him out. I can reduce the circumference of a go cart tire by 1/2 -3/4″. That’s at 5 psi, with NFL footballs set at around 12.5 psi, I’d still think that a 1/2″ is very quite possible. If Tom reads this and is interested in giving it a try, have Toms guys get a hold of my guys and we’ll talk.

  21. Hey willycents,

    You want all footballs from last year tested and the results published.

    Were ANY of the footballs from 2000 (tom brady’s first year with NFL stats) tested and the results published? 2001, 2002, 2003, … ?

    Can’t be happy with a more level playing field going forward?

  22. This is one of those times that they should punish the team that knowingly cheated (the pats) and then just eliminate the rule and make both teams play with the same balls

  23. “If this happened in the real world. . . .”

    So alan226 is admitting that the NFL doesn’t exist, or doesn’t exist in the real world?

    On one point, we might agree. The NFL is at least partially big men playing a child’s GAME.

  24. Tom Brady doesn’t turn over his cell phone and the league insists that there is an implication of guilt. Goodell doesn’t turn over the PSI records and now we are supposed to accept that without the same implication of guilt? Irregardless of the results the records should be made public to maintain the integrity of the game since Goodell is so worried about that.

  25. Under Tagliabue, I knew some things were handled behind the scenes but I always felt comfortable that the game was played with integrity. Today under Goodell, things are handled in the open yet seem to leave me questioning whether or not the outcome is being influenced. Not by Brady, Belicheck or Kraft but by Goodell. I’m not a Pats fan but to think that a league would essentially fabricate a hit on the biggest player in the sport is mind blowing. The league may be making more money than ever but from the perspective of history this era will be remembered with a question mark at every turn where it very well could have been about the success of the passing game with Brady, Manning and Brees. I used to watch every Nascar race. I stopped watching after last year. I’m honestly starting to lose interest in watching the NFL as well..

  26. jake6879 says:
    Jul 10, 2016 7:55 PM
    Under Tagliabue, I knew some things were handled behind the scenes but I always felt comfortable that the game was played with integrity. Today under Goodell, things are handled in the open yet seem to leave me questioning whether or not the outcome is being influenced. Not by Brady, Belicheck or Kraft but by Goodell. I’m not a Pats fan but to think that a league would essentially fabricate a hit on the biggest player in the sport is mind blowing. The league may be making more money than ever but from the perspective of history this era will be remembered with a question mark at every turn where it very well could have been about the success of the passing game with Brady, Manning and Brees. I used to watch every Nascar race. I stopped watching after last year. I’m honestly starting to lose interest in watching the NFL as well..

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    the problem is Goodell is not influencing the results. He is chosing which results to use and which to ignore.

    SHOW US THE RESULTS OF THE 2015 BALL PRESSURE TESTING RESULTS AND THIS ALL GOES AWAY!!!!

    Cue the crickets.

    CHIRP….CHIRP

  27. Each team should have representative present while the balls are being checked. Don’t trust the NFL’s integrity nor the referees competence.
    Why hasn’t Goodell released the random PSI testing?
    Because he spent millions finding a whiff of air that was only hiding not missing.
    As for that desperate troll who said that Brady will wet himself… Why? PSI does not affect his greatness. Pay attention to facts. Brady did even better after the referees supposedly fixed the balls and then won the SB. Think of new insults to say otherwise hide under the rocks. Troll.

  28. The possibility of cheating exists because control of the balls is ceded to the teams. If officials controlled the balls from beginning to end Brady and the patsies wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve done.

  29. OK I’ll state again Colts checked Pats balls then handed them over to the officials. Then 3 out of 4 Colts balls were also under inflated. But I bet you’ll avoid those statements since they are factual and as a hater that is to much for you to be

  30. dandeman19 says:
    Jul 10, 2016 3:38 PM

    Oh and by the way no hater nor the NFL has answered these questions………………………………………..
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    Nor has any Pats fans answered this question:

    Why did the ball boy take the balls to the bathroom? a No. 1 or No.2?

    Answer that!

  31. Why did the ball boy went in the bathroom? He went there to relieve himself and not leave the ball out of his sight which was just doing his job. Is that so out of this world notion? He has to be out there for awhile. The referee initially gave him permission to take the bags out of the testing room to the common room then he just proceeded to take them out to the field. According to a witness the referee let him do this sometime and it was not extraordinary like the NFL played it to be.
    The referees saw him took out the bags but nobody questioned him nor took the bags from him. Then let him take it out again after testing them.
    How did this huge man fumble around taking the balls out of the bags in that restroom, deflated them them then put them back in 90 seconds ,while the referees stopped checking the Colts’ balls because they ran out of time during half- time? Answer that question!
    We keep answering that question but you dolts just don’t listen.
    Answer this!
    Where in the Wells Report does it say that Tom Brady asked the ball boys to under inflate the ball DURING the AFC championship against the Colts?
    We are waiting.
    and oh… Why did Brady performed better after the referees supposedly adjusted the balls to the correct spec. Why did Brady win the SB with the correct PSI if his intention of deflating the football is to gain advantage?
    Don’t give the garbage that he does not really need to do it.

  32. We know the PSI numbers the NFL is concealing show what numerous scientists have proven – the “deflated” PSI was exactly where it should have been

    In fact, Science could NOT explain it if they were above 12.5 PSI!

    I’d just ask – no, DEMAND – that every owner answer one question in public

    “Does Roger Goodell have “unquestioned integrity?”

    Because if he does not, by the owners own legal bylaws, Article VIII, he must be replaced by the Owners as Commissioner

    The NFL is corrupt and unfair – there is no simpler way to put it

  33. Why did the ball boy take the balls to the bathroom? a No. 1 or No.2?

    Answer that!
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    In there for only 100 seconds so I’m guessing No. 1. Not enough time to do much of anything else.

  34. Why did the ball boy take the balls to the bathroom?
    The same reason I take my wallet to the bathroom.
    Sometimes I am carrying my wallet when the urge strikes me to urinate. Rather than leave my wallet in the hallway I take it with me while I relieve myself. If I were carrying a sack of balls I would take them too.

    Boy what a tough question to answer.

  35. The NFL still hasn’t figured out basic science or use logic. The psi of the footballs need to be measured in the same environment as the football field. The measurement should not be measured inside the officials’ locker room and taken out to the field where there’s a temperature difference (hotter or colder). If the field temperature changes during the game the psi level will change as well.

  36. Another mind numbing rule change by the nimrods running the NFL that makes ZERO sense.

    Its amazing these nimrods are still employed which shows how totally inept the NFL is. The only 2 things they get right is making alot of money, and taking tax dollars.

  37. How about…3 balls – ones that will actually be used. If more are needed, they will be tested as necessary? We’re talking measuring air pressure in a football – not too complicated.

  38. limakey says:
    Jul 10, 2016 4:31 PM

    The NFL clearly stated why they implemented the rule as well as why they did not reveal the measurements. And in the case of Deflategate, the NFL clearly had other supporting evidence such as the texts, the lies, the communications and the gem, Brady’s cell phone destruction.
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    This comment is a perfect illustration about what is completely wrong about this case when it comes to the fans.

    You are basically saying, it doesn’t even matter if the balls were deflated, because they have evidence that they feel suggests they were, even if they weren’t, and the punishment is because they could have been, even though they probably weren’t.

    To put it into more clear terms. Lets say a person, lets call him Tim Brody is on trial for murder. They have text messages that say he was going to be at the mall. The victim was at the same mall at the same time. And Tim Brody destroyed his phone, making it seem that he was hiding the fact that he was at the mall. So he is convicted of murder, because the victim was at the mall, Tim Brody was at the mall, and he destroyed the evidence that proved he was at the mall. Meanwhile, the murder victim isn’t even dead. That summarizes deflategate. Those that want the Patriots to be guilty don’t even care if happened, and they aren’t dumb enough to think it really did, but they have the circumstantial evidence to prove science wrong…

  39. The silly thing is that this rule change doesn’t change anything of any importance. Why did they not change the rules to state at what temperature the balls must be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi? Maybe because that would be an admission that the balls will not, CAN not remain in that pressure range when they are moved to a different temperature. In the south when you bring a properly inflated ball out into the 90 degree sun, the ball pressure will be greater than 13.5 psi. In the north when you bring a properly inflated ball out into the 50 degree or colder weather it will become less than 12.5 psi.

    The one piece that has never been proven throughout this whole silly debacle is what is the “competitive advantage” of a ball at one pressure over another? If both teams balls are being affected by the weather equally, there is no advantage or disadvantage to the naturally occurring changes in pressure. But they won’t be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi.

  40. Has anyone asked the NFL League office why they now need 24 balls from each team?
    Will 12 be used in 1st half then 12 be used in 2nd half?
    Is that to help reduce the natural deflation due to ideal gas law ?
    Where will the extra balls be kept & who’s in charge of them?
    Will they be kept in a warm heated area to reduce PSI loss?

    What exactly is the reason this new demand for 24 balls is being put into place?
    Did the league realize DURRING their random spot checks that balls do indeed loose PSI while outside in cold games so now they can just swap all balls at 1/2 time to avoid this?

    Make the League office answer why they are now doing this & what purpose it serves!!!

  41. You have facts that back that up? Or are you a typical hater devoid of facts? You just hope their are sheep out there that rink your Kool Aid. I am not one I looked at both sides. The NFL has many many more lies and inconsistencies than the Pats do. But go ahead drink your own Kool Aid

  42. bkostela says:

    I’m no scientist. Can someone explain the Ideal Gas Law and specifically how it pertains to taking a bag of balls into a bathroom after the balls were measured, calling yourself “Deflator”, and routinely destroying your cell phone?
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    He didn’t “routinely” destroy cell phones. Only the one the NFL asked for.

  43. FoozieGrooler says:
    Jul 10, 2016 10:47 PM
    Oh boy, another “Patriot” rule.

    I wonder why this keeps happening.
    ===================

    Might have something to do with other teams not being able to keep up. Easier to dumb it down, no team left behind and all that

  44. “I’m no scientist. Can someone explain the Ideal Gas Law…”

    Career in science not required. All you really need to do is pass 10th grade.

  45. To this guy,
    dandeman19 says:
    Jul 10, 2016 3:38 PM

    Oh and by the way no hater nor the NFL has answered these questions………………………………………..
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    Nor has any Pats fans answered this question:

    Why did the ball boy take the balls to the bathroom? a No. 1 or No.2?

    Answer that!
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    I’ll answer your question with:
    Explain how a ball handler can accurately let out ~ 1lb. of air in each football without doing one twice in 90 seconds and put them back in the bag, when it took an entire halftime to check the Patriots footballs twice and only enough time to check 4 Colts footballs which 3/4 were under 12.5 PSI and never investigated. He would be more guilty of not washing his hands after peeing. Think about this, if those footballs are his responsibility and he left them in the hall, if something happened to them it would be his fault. Perhaps he was doing his job by protecting them. But 90 seconds in a bathroom is not enough time to accurately tamper 12 footballs.

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